Whats Australia like? [Archive]

damned1974

01-20-2010, 03:24 AM

Australia >>>>>>>>>>>> the States.

Not even close.

America>>>>>Australia
It is a lot like the 1980's version of America and everything is overpriced.Unless you want to see the boring Opera House and Harbour Bridge,there is nothing to do or see that America doesn't have.Other Australians hate hearing this,because there has been an overabundant patriotic movement here lately,but trust me-America has greater regions,landmarks,and sites to be seen. Unfortunately Australians only get the worst of American culture here,whether it comes from outdated tv,or horrid fast-food-so most Aussies think it is better over here and critisize Americans (or most nationalities for that matter)
Nowhere in Australia has a place that even touches Las Vegas,New York,etc etc in terms of action or entertainment.Even most of the bands that play here are usually the ones who have lost grounds of success overseas.It's nice and mellow here,but if you are looking for action-stay in the States...

Biolink

01-20-2010, 11:17 AM

Its kinda funny how we feel about each others countries.

If you feel that way, lets swap lives

The Weebler II

01-20-2010, 11:53 AM

Given a choice of the US and Oz I'd choose the US every time and so would most ozzies, don't let them lie to you.

Mushroom

01-20-2010, 01:42 PM

???

01-20-2010, 04:19 PM

Can you give a photo of a good looking one?

The girl in my avatar.

damned1974

01-21-2010, 12:20 AM

Having traveled around Australia I personally thought it was pretty bland with the exception of Melbourne and as a city person there are still far better cities. Depends what you like I guess.

Australia is aesthetically pleasing and does have nice weather and beaches but can feel soulless and doesn't have the kind of buzz that would make me want to spend much time there.

Absolutely true.Australian contemporary culture seems in a state of confusion and disarray. It doesn't have a strong identity that people would be familiar with (eg.Paris/Louvre, Eiffel tower, Italy/Roman Colosseum ,Leaning tower,USA/disneyland, vegas,mt.rushmore,statue of liberty,etc).To top it off,a lot of people have found locals to be rude or disinterested if you are American. The customer service here sucks as well.If you are a tourist,you want facets of the hospitality and tourism industry to show concern and interest in the tourists that bring them money,but there is simply no value there-and to travel all the way here, accomodations ,food, entertainment,etc-it is just straight up too expensive for the quality you are paying for.
I have been around Europe,Japan,Australia,America,etc and the cities here really leave a lot to be desired.... sad but true.

Biolink

01-21-2010, 12:53 AM

Is it THAT expensive?

An Australian Dollar is about 90 cents to a United States dollar, so exchange works if at a small level

Philfy

01-21-2010, 12:57 AM

Absolutely true.Australian contemporary culture seems in a state of confusion and disarray. It doesn't have a strong identity that people would be familiar with (eg.Paris/Louvre, Eiffel tower, Italy/Roman Colosseum ,Leaning tower,USA/disneyland, vegas,mt.rushmore,statue of liberty,etc).

I have been around Europe,Japan,Australia,America,etc and the cities here really leave a lot to be desired.... sad but true.

I think it's unfair that you're singling out Australian culture as being in a state of confusion and disarray. I think the term 'evolution' would have been much better suited.

I think you might be confusing between cultural identity and what would be better known as 'cultural icons'. Yes, when people think of Paris or Rome they think of the Eiffel tower and Colosseum respectively. Could not Sydney and it's iconic Harbour Bridge/Opera house also fit into this category?

Identity is something completely different, and I believe it's alive and well in this country.

damned1974

01-21-2010, 01:52 AM

I think it's unfair that you're singling out Australian culture as being in a state of confusion and disarray. I think the term 'evolution' would have been much better suited.

I think you might be confusing between cultural identity and what would be better known as 'cultural icons'. Yes, when people think of Paris or Rome they think of the Eiffel tower and Colosseum respectively. Could not Sydney and it's iconic Harbour Bridge/Opera house also fit into this category?

Identity is something completely different, and I believe it's alive and well in this country.

First off-I am not really "singling out" Australia as much as you think.I live here in Sydney myself,and the subject is ABOUT Australia.
Can you tell me the projected image or landmark that people from around the globe may think of Australia????
Most people don't even know of the Harbour Bridge or Opera house-it is not as known as other cultural icons are.
As far as Australia having a strong,well known identity and culture uniquely it's own-can you even tell me one that most people can identify with???

Philfy

01-21-2010, 05:26 AM

First off-I am not really "singling out" Australia as much as you think.I live here in Sydney myself,and the subject is ABOUT Australia.
Can you tell me the projected image or landmark that people from around the globe may think of Australia????
Most people don't even know of the Harbour Bridge or Opera house-it is not as known as other cultural icons are.
As far as Australia having a strong,well known identity and culture uniquely it's own-can you even tell me one that most people can identify with???

You probably aren't singling out Australia, but your post seemed to emphasize the idea that Australian culture was in a state of confusion and disarray compared to other countries (I'm not sure if you meant it that way or not).

What I would argue, is that other countries too are experiencing the same 'problem'. Cultural identities DO shift over time and Australia is not alone.

I disagree with your assertion that the Harbour Bridge/Opera House are not well known icons. Just type "Sydney" or even "Australia" into Google images and see what you get.

Identity is more how we (as Aussies) see ourselves. Are you asking how we see ourselves? Or how foreigners see us? There might be a different answer to each question.

Philfy

01-21-2010, 05:31 AM

I've been thinking about moving here after I finish College. Its a 1st world Country, so I know not all is good, but the pacing of it seems a lot more chill than where I am right now.

I'm big into Sports and outdoors.

Also where I'm living now weather -10 C to 15C doesn't even phase me(And it gets much colder), so winter in Australia wouldn't be a factor.

To be honest, if you like sports and outdoors then you'll probably like it here, although the major sports will be entirely different.

Cold weather may not phase you, but how do you feel about hot weather (30 C plus)?

Biolink

01-21-2010, 06:24 AM

To be honest, if you like sports and outdoors then you'll probably like it here, although the major sports will be entirely different.

Cold weather may not phase you, but how do you feel about hot weather (30 C plus)?

That's about right for me.

Granted I bet on average during Australia's summers it get hotter, since relative to where I live its warm all year round in some places, but Chicago gets pretty damn hot in the summer as well. Its known for its ****ty unpredictable weather.

The Sports look pretty cool. I guess I could say I got interested when I was flicking through the channels, and I happened upon an AFL game. It looked craaaaaaaaaaaazy.

Tha_Greatest

01-21-2010, 06:39 AM

Toney Loc

01-21-2010, 10:50 AM

austrailia is like iceland, only without the ice, instead of ice youd have big hairy spiders and a bunch of people talking like steve irwin while hunting for crocodiles, lol, nyahahahahahaha

LMFAOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Classic post.

Tha_Greatest

01-21-2010, 11:44 AM

LMFAOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Classic post.
green k to you homie thanks

Earl-Lesnar

01-21-2010, 02:49 PM

It's like this

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Macho Madness

01-21-2010, 11:24 PM

Biolink

01-24-2010, 03:06 PM

Toney Loc

01-24-2010, 03:16 PM

Biolink

01-24-2010, 03:30 PM

Drogba's perm is legit.

woftam

01-24-2010, 05:23 PM

A couple more questions.

Maybe a tad more offensive in nature, but how is racism over there for African Americans? I myself am a Light Skinned African American. Is there any chance I could get some hate, or be mistaken for something I'm not.

No more likely than me. As there is everywhere, there are places you stay away from at night. But on a whole it's a pretty safe country

woftam

01-24-2010, 05:37 PM

That's about right for me.

Granted I bet on average during Australia's summers it get hotter, since relative to where I live its warm all year round in some places, but Chicago gets pretty damn hot in the summer as well. Its known for its ****ty unpredictable weather.

The Sports look pretty cool. I guess I could say I got interested when I was flicking through the channels, and I happened upon an AFL game. It looked craaaaaaaaaaaazy.

I love my AFL football.
For your information my team (Collingwood Magpies) have signed up a 204cm dude from Milwaukee called Shae McNamara. The first American to be included on an AFL list. Get this. He sent a you tube video of himself kicking a grid iron ball to the club and the club invited him over for a try out. The kid is improving his skills every week and is having a ball.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/88588/default.aspx

You can download an interview with him about his adventure here. It's a US network that interviewed him when he went back home for the Christmas break.
http://www.mediafire.com/?45kutmlmgkd

Great story.

Biolink

01-24-2010, 05:44 PM

I love my AFL football.
For your information my team (Collingwood Magpies) have signed up a 204cm dude from Milwaukee called Shae McNamara. The first American to be included on an AFL list. Get this. He sent a you tube video of himself kicking a grid iron ball to the club and the club invited him over for a try out. The kid is improving his skills every week and is having a ball.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/88588/default.aspx

You can download an interview with him about his adventure here. It's a US network that interviewed him when he went back home for the Christmas break.
http://www.mediafire.com/?45kutmlmgkd

Great story.

That's fvcking awesome. Its great to get other cultures involved in the game.

My team is I guess St. Kilda. When I was watching them, this dude named Nick Riewoldt was beasting everybody out there so I got behind that. Looks like a fun game, that I can get behind.

woftam

01-24-2010, 05:48 PM

That's fvcking awesome. Its great to get other cultures involved in the game.

My team is I guess St. Kilda. When I was watching them, this dude named Nick Riewoldt was beasting everybody out there so I got behind that. Looks like a fun game, that I can get behind.

yeah Riewoldt is a champion player no doubt.
But for me there is only 1 club. ;)
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/

???

01-24-2010, 05:54 PM

That's fvcking awesome. Its great to get other cultures involved in the game.

My team is I guess St. Kilda. When I was watching them, this dude named Nick Riewoldt was beasting everybody out there so I got behind that. Looks like a fun game, that I can get behind.

Support the Brisbane Lions!

http://www.toywebb.net/images/brisbanelions-logo.jpg

Also watch the NRL as well.

Biolink

01-24-2010, 06:06 PM

yeah Riewoldt is a champion player no doubt.
But for me there is only 1 club. ;)
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/

Who are the powerhouse teams in the AFL?

Who is the Micheal Jordan, LeBron James, Kobe Bryants of the AFL?(In other words the best players).

Support the Brisbane Lions!

http://www.toywebb.net/images/brisbanelions-logo.jpg

Also watch the NRL as well.

Lol I can't get behind another team. I can't afford to hop bandwagons. When you pledge allegiance to 1 team, that's it, its over.

I'm also trying to get into NRL.

I'm behind this team that's currently in limbo called the Central Coast Bears. That's because a fan of that team, came to my team the Chicago Bears(NFL) to get fans to sign a petition for the team to gain fan support. To stay consistent I guess it only makes sense that I'm a Bears fan here and on the other side of the World. Can't get confused.

???

01-24-2010, 06:12 PM

Who are the powerhouse teams in the AFL?

Who is the Micheal Jordan, LeBron James, Kobe Bryants of the AFL?(In other words the best players).

Lol I can't get behind another team. I can't afford to hop bandwagons. When you pledge allegiance to 1 team, that's it, its over.

I'm also trying to get into NRL.

I'm behind this team that's currently in limbo called the Central Coast Bears. That's because a fan of that team, came to my team the Chicago Bears(NFL) to get fans to sign a petition for the team to gain fan support. To stay consistent I guess it only makes sense that I'm a Bears fan here and on the other side of the World. Can't get confused.

The Brisbane Lions will do well this year with Brown and Fevola in the forwards.

Macho Madness

01-24-2010, 06:16 PM

Who are the powerhouse teams in the AFL?

Who is the Micheal Jordan, LeBron James, Kobe Bryants of the AFL?(In other words the best players).

Lol I can't get behind another team. I can't afford to hop bandwagons. When you pledge allegiance to 1 team, that's it, its over.

I'm also trying to get into NRL.

I'm behind this team that's currently in limbo called the Central Coast Bears. That's because a fan of that team, came to my team the Chicago Bears(NFL) to get fans to sign a petition for the team to gain fan support. To stay consistent I guess it only makes sense that I'm a Bears fan here and on the other side of the World. Can't get confused.
central coast dont have a team yet, but if u wanna cheer for that area newcastle knights would b ur bet

Biolink

01-24-2010, 06:23 PM

The Brisbane Lions will do well this year with Brown and Fevola in the forwards.

League wise who are the best Forwards in the game?

Also at the beginning of the game how do you decide who gets the ball first? Do you do face offs or something

central coast dont have a team yet, but if u wanna cheer for that area newcastle knights would b ur bet

Ah :dunno:

Go Newcastle

Mushroom

01-24-2010, 06:51 PM

A couple more questions.

Maybe a tad more offensive in nature, but how is racism over there for African Americans? I myself am a Light Skinned African American. Is there any chance I could get some hate, or be mistaken for something I'm not.

I'm not gonna lie I found the level of racism not great tbh. It's unlikely your get any violence or anything though it's more underlying. It's like if you scratch the surface you'll find some worrying attitudes held by a large number of people. My advice is go to New Zealand, now that place is the ****ing ****.

???

01-24-2010, 07:19 PM

League wise who are the best Forwards in the game?

Also at the beginning of the game how do you decide who gets the ball first? Do you do face offs or something

Ah :dunno:

Go Newcastle

I think the away team kicks off at the start.

One more round

01-24-2010, 08:14 PM

A couple more questions.

Maybe a tad more offensive in nature, but how is racism over there for African Americans? I myself am a Light Skinned African American. Is there any chance I could get some hate, or be mistaken for something I'm not.

There isn't a lot of extreme racism, like you probably wouldn't get jumped for being black or anything crazy, but a lot of people here hold racist/ignorant attitudes towards dark skinned people. Jokes about other races are popular and there are plenty of Australians who have no idea about other races and are very prejudiced and ignorant towards them, especially in the country areas.

It's just different areas really, the CBD of Sydney, Brisbane, whatever you won't get any racism because there are so many Asians and other races going around. And if you go into an area with lots of immigrants again not much racism, but then you go to a mostly White rural type area or smaller town and you really get some "wtf" sort of attitudes, rednecks pretty much.

Macho Madness

01-24-2010, 08:19 PM

League wise who are the best Forwards in the game?

Also at the beginning of the game how do you decide who gets the ball first? Do you do face offs or something

Ah :dunno:

Go Newcastle
probably steve price,petro cevonecieva(can not spell his name to save my life),nathan hindmarsh,anthony watmough, etc too many to name lol

Toney Loc

01-24-2010, 08:23 PM

monaroCountry

01-25-2010, 06:47 AM

There isn't a lot of extreme racism, like you probably wouldn't get jumped for being black or anything crazy, but a lot of people here hold racist/ignorant attitudes towards dark skinned people. Jokes about other races are popular and there are plenty of Australians who have no idea about other races and are very prejudiced and ignorant towards them, especially in the country areas.

It's just different areas really, the CBD of Sydney, Brisbane, whatever you won't get any racism because there are so many Asians and other races going around. And if you go into an area with lots of immigrants again not much racism, but then you go to a mostly White rural type area or smaller town and you really get some "wtf" sort of attitudes, rednecks pretty much.

Youll find Aussies to be more accomodating to African Americans than they are to the English and the Kiwis. The Aussies, Kiwis and English love to crack jokes at each others expense and generally rile each other up.

Example
Barmy Army (English)v Aussies @ a cricket match - re Australia's convict past
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DbXLd08FSI

Barmy Army v Kiwis (New Zealanders) - re their sheep shagging antics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4cT0rlNk1E

R.M {7}

01-25-2010, 08:04 AM

cleaner, safer and more whiter than America.

One more round

01-25-2010, 06:23 PM

Youll find Aussies to be more accomodating to African Americans than they are to the English and the Kiwis. The Aussies, Kiwis and English love to crack jokes at each others expense and generally rile each other up.

Example
Barmy Army (English)v Aussies @ a cricket match - re Australia's convict past
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DbXLd08FSI

Barmy Army v Kiwis (New Zealanders) - re their sheep shagging antics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4cT0rlNk1E

No, Im not talking about the irritating light hearted ribbing that goes on between kiwis australians and english (essentially the same people) I'm talking about actual racism. And seeing your username is "Monarocountry" you are probably the kind of redneck I am talking about.

One more round

01-25-2010, 06:27 PM

Any Mexicans in Australia?

Hmm yeah theres a few around. Not a significant population though.

Biggest immigrant groups would be UK, Vietnamese, Chinese, Lebanese, Italians, Greeks, Filipinos, Pacific Islanders and Indians and Pakistani's and some other Arab groups, and Africans like Sudanese, Sierra Leonese, Somalians. They are the immigrant groups that are significant.

monaroCountry

01-26-2010, 12:37 AM

No, Im not talking about the irritating light hearted ribbing that goes on between kiwis australians and english (essentially the same people) I'm talking about actual racism. And seeing your username is "Monarocountry" you are probably the kind of redneck I am talking about.

Your a f@cken idi0t, I suggest you get yourself a brain before trying to insult me based on my usename. FYI Monaro is actually a place in Australia, it is also derived from an Aboriginal word "Manaroo" meaning "treeless"!!!!!!!!!

I was merely trying to help out a fellow forumer on a very important question. Relocating to another country is not an easy thing to do, I should know ive been there and done it. The best way to decide is to have all the best information available.

Racism excists everywhere but Australians are a mixed and varied group and as a whole are not very racist. The thing they do hold dear though is a sense of mateship and "fair go".

One more round

01-26-2010, 08:02 AM

Your a f@cken idi0t, I suggest you get yourself a brain before trying to insult me based on my usename. FYI Monaro is actually a place in Australia, it is also derived from an Aboriginal word "Manaroo" meaning "treeless"!!!!!!!!!

I was merely trying to help out a fellow forumer on a very important question. Relocating to another country is not an easy thing to do, I should know ive been there and done it. The best way to decide is to have all the best information available.

Racism excists everywhere but Australians are a mixed and varied group and as a whole are not very racist. The thing they do hold dear though is a sense of mateship and "fair go".

Yeah I know it's a place, but I associate it more with the car.

I'll probably throw up next time I hear that, it's lost all meaning it's repeated so much.

Toney Loc

01-26-2010, 09:04 PM

Hmm yeah theres a few around. Not a significant population though.

Biggest immigrant groups would be UK, Vietnamese, Chinese, Lebanese, Italians, Greeks, Filipinos, Pacific Islanders and Indians and Pakistani's and some other Arab groups, and Africans like Sudanese, Sierra Leonese, Somalians. They are the immigrant groups that are significant.

Good. I can't stand Mexicans, I swear.

Dan...

01-26-2010, 09:23 PM

Your a f@cken idi0t, I suggest you get yourself a brain before trying to insult me based on my usename. FYI Monaro is actually a place in Australia, it is also derived from an Aboriginal word "Manaroo" meaning "treeless"!!!!!!!!!

I was merely trying to help out a fellow forumer on a very important question. Relocating to another country is not an easy thing to do, I should know ive been there and done it. The best way to decide is to have all the best information available.

Racism excists everywhere but Australians are a mixed and varied group and as a whole are not very racist. The thing they do hold dear though is a sense of mateship and "fair go".

Can't really agree with that I'm afraid. We are pretty damn racist out here IMO.

boxing_great

01-26-2010, 10:24 PM

Can't really agree with that I'm afraid. We are pretty damn racist out here IMO.

towards which ethnic groups?

Dan...

01-26-2010, 10:47 PM

towards which ethnic groups?

I hear a lot of racism against anyone who isn't white to be honest. Whether it be Asians, aboriginals, lebanese. Probably not Africans but most others.

Greatwhitehope

01-26-2010, 11:18 PM

Dan...

01-26-2010, 11:35 PM

There's your racism right there.

Anyways I'm pure bred anglo Aussie and I'm racist towards all races, even Aussies! There's no malice in it whatsoever, it's just the way we are, everything is a piss take.

Mate there is a difference between taking the piss and racism.

That **** that happened in Cronulla around Australia Day a few years back - that was no harmless "piss taking".

There is a difference. Making jokes to have a laugh vs hating an individual based on race.

The Weebler II

01-28-2010, 06:56 PM

Mate there is a difference between taking the piss and racism.

That **** that happened in Cronulla around Australia Day a few years back - that was no harmless "piss taking".

There is a difference. Making jokes to have a laugh vs hating an individual based on race.

is that when the lebanese people got chased or something?

Dan...

01-28-2010, 06:58 PM

is that when the lebanese people got chased or something?

Yeah man there were bashings and then retaliations and ****. It was disgraceful.

One more round

01-28-2010, 07:50 PM

Yeah man there were bashings and then retaliations and ****. It was disgraceful.

It was disgraceful from both sides, but more so from the Aussies as they outnumbered the Lebanese

Dan...

01-28-2010, 08:06 PM

It was disgraceful from both sides, but more so from the Aussies as they outnumbered the Lebanese

Yeah, the bogan cunts down there started it on Australia Day. They were mostly to blame.

monaroCountry

01-28-2010, 11:42 PM

That **** that happened in Cronulla around Australia Day a few years back - that was no harmless "piss taking".

There is a difference. Making jokes to have a laugh vs hating an individual based on race.

You have no idea how and who started that do you? Youve probably only heard the subsequent riot after the event. Word of advice, people who devote their time for free (volunteers) in Australia are valued very highly, these include volunteer lifeguards, volunteer firefighters etc. This volunteer and mateship mentality (helping others) made the Sydney Olympics a success and have shaped Australian history.

If anyone (no matter the race) bashed up a banker or a politician then no one would care, people see these guys as scums. If you bashed up helpless volunteers then watch out. Also anyone no matter the race can become a volunteer, volunteering is encouraged.

Yeah, the bogan cunts down there started it on Australia Day. They were mostly to blame.

-Just after 3pm on Sunday, 4 December 2005, police were called to North Cronulla Beach following a report of an assault on two volunteer surf lifesavers by a group of “up to 20 men”.
-One of the Lebanese men responded to the accusations, "I’m allowed to, now **** off and leave our beach" to which a lifesaver responded, "I come down here out of my own spare time to save you dumb cunts from drowning, now piss off you scum".
-The verbal exchange continued with one Lebanese youth attempting to defuse the situation. Another then threw a punch which missed which prompted a pushing match that escalated into a fight. One of the lifesavers was badly hurt after falling on a star dropper (a tri lobed steel stake) while another was also injured. The third lifesaver informed police that the four were part of a group of eight Lebanese that had been on the beach most of the day and that there had been no problems with their prior behaviour.
-On 7 December at 16:15 a local teacher reported that a “group of [25-30] Lebanese [men]” had surround a man in his forties at the Cronulla beach car park and “punched him in the head from behind” and when he defended himself they swarmed him and kicked him, with a stranger who tried to assist him being attacked. The local teacher attempted to report the incident to police but police “told everyone to go home”.
-Another witness, Warwick Kent, corroborated the events and added “they were screaming ‘We own this country’”.
-Additionally, even before the recent events, people, particularly women, claimed to have been harassed, almost daily, by “groups of young Lebanese men” describing the women as being “Aussie sluts”.

Now before you say anything, I am friends with people from different backgrouns including Lebanese. Most people including my Lebanese friends were actually against what initially happened. Everyone initially took it as some unruley youths with no respect for anyone. People blamed the media for creating a race v race situation.

monaroCountry

01-29-2010, 12:07 AM

I hear a lot of racism against anyone who isn't white to be honest. Whether it be Asians, aboriginals, lebanese. Probably not Africans but most others.

Have you seen how many asians there are in Sydney? Like ive said before Australians arent really racist and most of what you might think of as "whites" are actually mixed or are from overseas themselves.

Australians != racist
but they do tend to dislike anyone who thinks that they are better than the average person. These includes the rich and will usually try to cut their egos down.......this is termed the "tall poppy syndrome".

Dan...

01-29-2010, 12:35 AM

Liar

01-29-2010, 12:39 AM

I don't know why Sydney has ethnic tensions. In Melbourne, there is barely any, except when people from the Balkans meet in the Tennis and Soccer. Then it becomes a bit dangerous especially Croatians and Serbs.

Dan...

01-29-2010, 01:03 AM

Liar

01-29-2010, 01:05 AM

Yeah it can.

How the fuk are you green flawless?

Made a good comment about Japanese ****. Who would have thought :lol1:

Dan...

01-29-2010, 01:25 AM

Made a good comment about Japanese ****. Who would have thought :lol1:

Haha, awesome ****.

Philfy

01-29-2010, 02:18 AM

There are no excuses for the mindless bashings that occured down there on Australia day. Retaliation in response to another event is not an excuse.

This is what happened, in short:

A bunch of low-life bums had a BBQ, got tanked and thought it would be a good idea, because it was Australia day, to beat up ethnics.

Most of the ethnics bashed hadn't done anything. They were simply at the wrong place at the wrong time.

I don't want to sound offensive mate but you sound like one of those low-lifes that just tries to justify this bull****.

I think you might be simplifying things a bit Dan.

As mentioned before, there was a whole heap of stuff that had happened leading up to the Cronulla Riots. Tensions had been simmering for a long time. It certainly doesn't excuse what happened but it was part of the reason it did.

VIPrice

01-29-2010, 05:37 AM

just moved to sydney from new zealand a few days ago, seems alright so far

BOLLOCKS

01-29-2010, 07:50 PM

Paradise....

Dan...

01-31-2010, 05:43 PM

I think you might be simplifying things a bit Dan.

As mentioned before, there was a whole heap of stuff that had happened leading up to the Cronulla Riots. Tensions had been simmering for a long time. It certainly doesn't excuse what happened but it was part of the reason it did.

I'm not disputing that, but it doesn't make it right.

Germany went through a fair bit of rubbish between 1919 and 1938 as well, does that mean Hitler was an ok dude?

Liar

01-31-2010, 09:49 PM

What do you guys think about the Indian bashing??

Biolink

01-31-2010, 10:43 PM

Flawless did you move there for any particular reason?

Dan...

01-31-2010, 10:50 PM

What do you guys think about the Indian bashing??

I don't know enough about it but they need to get a serious handle on it down there because we really don't want the Indians hating on us.

Liar

01-31-2010, 11:04 PM

Flawless did you move there for any particular reason?

My father;'s friend told him how good Australia is. Also helped him get a job, best decision ever

Australia is the best country ever. Great healthcare, great education system, greater lifestyle and the laid back style is the best.

But some cities are **** like Perth example, everything closes around 6pm

Toney Loc

01-31-2010, 11:16 PM

Where are you from, Flaw?

Please don't say Mexico, I'll hate you forever. :nonono:

G A M E

02-01-2010, 01:47 AM

My father;'s friend told him how good Australia is. Also helped him get a job, best decision ever

Australia is the best country ever. Great healthcare, great education system, greater lifestyle and the laid back style is the best.

But some cities are **** like Perth example, everything closes around 6pm

yo, perth is the tits, was there a few weeks ago, nice and laid back.

statosteve

02-16-2010, 12:13 AM

bro if you like sluutz,weed,partying sports beachs clubz and more sluutz.cum 2 surfers paradise goldcoast.i luv that place.

Earl-Lesnar

02-16-2010, 12:23 AM

full of people like this

http://www.solarnavigator.net/images/paul_hogan_as_michael_j_crocodile_dundee.jpg

Philfy

02-16-2010, 06:08 PM

I drove up to Brisbane the other weekend. It's actually quite a nice city (construction traffic aside) and a suburb i passed through on the northen side had a plethora of adult stores.

Can somebody explain the anomoly of the orange taxis being called 'yellow cabs'?

Dan...

02-16-2010, 08:02 PM

boxing_great

02-16-2010, 10:47 PM

Philfy

02-17-2010, 02:55 AM

Yeah, its stupid.

I live northside, you know which suburb you passed through?

I ended up near a huge shopping centre somewhere, maybe Chermside? off Gympie road. Is Gympie road the one with all the construction stuff happening?

I imagine the plethora of adult stores must've been near Windsor or some such suburb although I could be wrong.

Hopefully you can pinpoint the location of the adult stores for any prospective visitors to to your city.

You work in the Brissy CBD?

Dan...

02-17-2010, 05:04 PM

I ended up near a huge shopping centre somewhere, maybe Chermside? off Gympie road. Is Gympie road the one with all the construction stuff happening?

I imagine the plethora of adult stores must've been near Windsor or some such suburb although I could be wrong.

Hopefully you can pinpoint the location of the adult stores for any prospective visitors to to your city.

You work in the Brissy CBD?

Yeah mate I work in the CBD.

It would have been Chermside and yeah, there are ****loads of adult stores around Lutwyche/Windsor.

I live in a suburb right next to Chermside - Aspley.

Biolink

02-17-2010, 05:16 PM

Whats minimum wage like in Oz?

Is it livable? **** I just want to visit so bad

Dan...

02-17-2010, 05:42 PM

Whats minimum wage like in Oz?

Is it livable? **** I just want to visit so bad

Not sure really. Pretty decent I think.

Philfy

02-17-2010, 07:08 PM

Whats minimum wage like in Oz?

Is it livable? **** I just want to visit so bad

Australia consistently ranks in the top 10 for most livable countries in the world alongside the likes of Norway, Iceland, Sweden, Austria and Switzerland. We have the advantage of good weather and we speak English as well.

Australia has very livable cities too.

The Economist's World's Most Livable Cities 2010 (Top 10)

City Country Rating
1 Vancouver Canada 98.0
2 Vienna Austria 97.9
3 Melbourne Australia 97.5
4 Toronto Canada 97.2
5 Calgary Canada 96.6
6 Helsinki Finland 96.2
7 Sydney Australia 96.1
8 Perth Australia 95.9
9 Adelaide Australia 95.9
10 Auckland New Zealand 95.7

IMO, what drags down livability here is the cost of accomodation. Houses and rent are outrageously expensive in most large cities.

Biolink

02-17-2010, 08:28 PM

Australia consistently ranks in the top 10 for most livable countries in the world alongside the likes of Norway, Iceland, Sweden, Austria and Switzerland. We have the advantage of good weather and we speak English as well.

Australia has very livable cities too.

The Economist's World's Most Livable Cities 2010 (Top 10)

City Country Rating
1 Vancouver Canada 98.0
2 Vienna Austria 97.9
3 Melbourne Australia 97.5
4 Toronto Canada 97.2
5 Calgary Canada 96.6
6 Helsinki Finland 96.2
7 Sydney Australia 96.1
8 Perth Australia 95.9
9 Adelaide Australia 95.9
10 Auckland New Zealand 95.7

IMO, what drags down livability here is the cost of accomodation. Houses and rent are outrageously expensive in most large cities.

Why is that, for a country with such a small population?

Is immigration driving up the cost of living?

Dan...

02-17-2010, 09:03 PM

Why is that, for a country with such a small population?

Is immigration driving up the cost of living?

Its a large country but the cities are by far the most desirable living areas and we have a pretty high wealth per capita.

???

02-17-2010, 09:14 PM

Sydney has the most highest rent and house prices in Australia.

Biolink

02-17-2010, 09:15 PM

Its a large country but the cities are by far the most desirable living areas and we have a pretty high wealth per capita.

Is it possible to commute from the suburbs or the more rural areas(Country areas), to the city using public transportation?

Dan...

02-17-2010, 09:19 PM

Is it possible to commute from the suburbs or the more rural areas(Country areas), to the city using public transportation?

Yeah.

I recently bought a place about 12km from the CBD. It takes me 40 minutes to get to the CBD on the bus in the morning.

I'm in Brisbane though. Cheaper than Melbourne and Sydney real estate wise.

Philfy

02-18-2010, 12:40 AM

Sydney has the most highest rent and house prices in Australia.

Yeah it's getting to a ridiculous point. I don't think I'll be sticking around in Sydney after I graduate. In my mind, it's just too much to pay for a roof over your head.

Then again, other capital cities aren't too much better. Perth and Melbourne are right up there as well.

Philfy

02-18-2010, 12:45 AM

Is it possible to commute from the suburbs or the more rural areas(Country areas), to the city using public transportation?

Most people (in Sydney) do commute from the suburbs to work. Unfortunately this causes quite a bit of traffic congestion on the roads.

Public transport can be a better option if you live near a train station, but that's not an option for everybody.

Me, I ride a motorbike:)

Dan...

02-18-2010, 12:51 AM

Yeah it's getting to a ridiculous point. I don't think I'll be sticking around in Sydney after I graduate. In my mind, it's just too much to pay for a roof over your head.

Then again, other capital cities aren't too much better. Perth and Melbourne are right up there as well.

What you studying mate?

Earl-Lesnar

02-18-2010, 01:39 AM

Im coming to Australia next year, Im going to go round Dans house for beer and a barbie, he doesn't know it yet though

Dan...

02-18-2010, 01:53 AM

Im coming to Australia next year, Im going to go round Dans house for beer and a barbie, he doesn't know it yet though

I bought a BBQ not long ago actually. Just waiting for the landscaper to come round and do up the back of my place and I'm pretty much set.

Disinformer

02-18-2010, 03:47 AM

Why is that, for a country with such a small population?

Is immigration driving up the cost of living?

Immigration + house shortage + baby boom

My family brought a house last year, worth 320k. Within 7 month worth 400k and still growing

???

02-18-2010, 03:13 PM

Immigration + house shortage + baby boom

My family brought a house last year, worth 320k. Within 7 month worth 400k and still growing
And then there are those people who buy 5-10 houses and leave the house empty for a year or two waiting for the house price to jump up before selling.

DiLLiNGER

02-18-2010, 06:58 PM

Australia consistently ranks in the top 10 for most livable countries in the world alongside the likes of Norway, Iceland, Sweden, Austria and Switzerland. We have the advantage of good weather and we speak English as well.

Australia has very livable cities too.

The Economist's World's Most Livable Cities 2010 (Top 10)

City Country Rating
1 Vancouver Canada 98.0
2 Vienna Austria 97.9
3 Melbourne Australia 97.5
4 Toronto Canada 97.2
5 Calgary Canada 96.6
6 Helsinki Finland 96.2
7 Sydney Australia 96.1
8 Perth Australia 95.9
9 Adelaide Australia 95.9
10 Auckland New Zealand 95.7

IMO, what drags down livability here is the cost of accomodation. Houses and rent are outrageously expensive in most large cities.

Interesting,no city in the US made it in the top ten!!

Biolink

02-18-2010, 08:10 PM

Interesting,no city in the US made it in the top ten!!

Lol.

The only US cities I could have seen making it was Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, and possibly Anaheim.

Basically clean cities, with very low crime rates.

But there must be better world class cities than those around the world that are still safer.

But on the real, how criminalized is Weed and other drugs in Australia?

Philfy

02-20-2010, 03:30 AM

What you studying mate?

Starting 3rd year of a science degree this year, majoring in biochemistry. Might stick around and do honours possibly. I don't mind the student lifestyle, but being poor sucks.

Philfy

02-20-2010, 03:57 AM

Lol.

The only US cities I could have seen making it was Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, and possibly Anaheim.

Basically clean cities, with very low crime rates.

But there must be better world class cities than those around the world that are still safer.

But on the real, how criminalized is Weed and other drugs in Australia?

I'm of the opinion that a person can do to their body as they wish. It's their body, their life. As long as it doesn't negatively affect others then they should be able to do as they please.

So, the whole 'anti-drug' agenda of our governments really pisses me off. There's been a little bit of progress of late but not much. You probably wouldn't want to get caught with a large quantity of anything here.

In NSW, a small amount of cannabis might get you a caution. Anything more than an ounce and you'll end up in court. You'd get a fine or good behaviour bond if it was your first offence for possession of less than a QP.

Similarly if you had a small amount of coke or ecstasy you probably wouldn't go to jail.

classicbuzzbox

03-21-2010, 08:33 AM

America>>>>>Australia
It is a lot like the 1980's version of America and everything is overpriced.Unless you want to see the boring Opera House and Harbour Bridge,there is nothing to do or see that America doesn't have.Other Australians hate hearing this,because there has been an overabundant patriotic movement here lately,but trust me-America has greater regions,landmarks,and sites to be seen. Unfortunately Australians only get the worst of American culture here,whether it comes from outdated tv,or horrid fast-food-so most Aussies think it is better over here and critisize Americans (or most nationalities for that matter)
Nowhere in Australia has a place that even touches Las Vegas,New York,etc etc in terms of action or entertainment.Even most of the bands that play here are usually the ones who have lost grounds of success overseas.It's nice and mellow here,but if you are looking for action-stay in the States...

Also apparent by sifting through this garbage is how poorly Aussie schools are doing these days. I mean, if you want to see a dirty slab of a ****house single paragraph, no grammar rant by an Aussie traveller that is very impressed by the rampant over-hyping of all things that is the US entertainment scene, then look no further than this steaming nugget of anti-wisdom.

jameshepenstall

03-22-2010, 06:29 PM

I've been thinking about moving here after I finish College. Its a 1st world Country, so I know not all is good, but the pacing of it seems a lot more chill than where I am right now.

I'm big into Sports and outdoors.

Also where I'm living now weather -10 C to 15C doesn't even phase me(And it gets much colder), so winter in Australia wouldn't be a factor.

Sounds like Aussie is a perfect place for you. Im not Australian but a Kiwi so im familiar with the Aussie way. Stereotypically they like to drink piss and watch sport and fight. Thats pretty basic but sort of true (dont hurt me!). It doesnt get that cold either. It's hard to keep an esky cold here, i cant imagine how hard it is in the Gold Coast or something.

Biolink

03-22-2010, 06:48 PM

That sounds badass.

What are some hot jobs in Oceania? I'd like to visit either.

Dan...

03-22-2010, 06:57 PM

That sounds badass.

What are some hot jobs in Oceania? I'd like to visit either.

From personal experiences if you are prepared to put in the effort you get work here. Our economy is strong.

Philfy

03-22-2010, 07:50 PM

Sounds like Aussie is a perfect place for you. Im not Australian but a Kiwi so im familiar with the Aussie way. Stereotypically they like to drink piss and watch sport and fight. Thats pretty basic but sort of true (dont hurt me!). It doesnt get that cold either. It's hard to keep an esky cold here, i cant imagine how hard it is in the Gold Coast or something.

Don't you mean a "chuller ben"?

Mushroom

03-22-2010, 07:53 PM

That sounds badass.

What are some hot jobs in Oceania? I'd like to visit either.

You should definitely go check the place out before you decide to move their to make sure it's the place for you.

jameshepenstall

03-23-2010, 07:31 PM

That sounds badass.

What are some hot jobs in Oceania? I'd like to visit either.

Not here dude, unemployment is rife. There is a current exodus from NZ over to Australia to work, not sure how happy the Aussies are about it, i know that Sydney technically has the most Maori's living in it of any city!. I would go myself if it wasn't for all the Australians that live there lol (im joking BTW, in case the sarcasm doest seep through!)

jameshepenstall

03-23-2010, 07:32 PM

Don't you mean a "chuller ben"?

yeah, i was trying on me ocka lingo cobber!

Mushroom

03-23-2010, 07:40 PM

Not here dude, unemployment is rife. There is a current exodus from NZ over to Australia to work, not sure how happy the Aussies are about it, i know that Sydney technically has the most Maori's living in it of any city!. I would go myself if it wasn't for all the Australians that live there lol (im joking BTW, in case the sarcasm doest seep through!)

NZ is a great place. Wellington is one of my favourite cities I've been to.

jameshepenstall

03-23-2010, 08:41 PM

NZ is a great place. Wellington is one of my favourite cities I've been to.

Oh dont get me wrong, i love my country (especially Wellies) but unless you have money already it's not the best place to move to. Our minimum rates are low, employers hire young people they can pay less over older people who actually need the jobs.......... i could go on and on. It just seems Australia has a better setup than here and on a lighter note they embrace sports stars better. We have a little bit of tall poppy syndrome here. We dont like people doing too well and putting the rest of us down!

Biolink

03-23-2010, 09:23 PM

What happened during that entire Cronulla Riot, thing a few years back?

I'm African American.

I guess I realize there are idiots everywhere. I don't think Colored people were involved though

jameshepenstall

03-23-2010, 09:57 PM

What happened during that entire Cronulla Riot, thing a few years back?

I'm African American.

I guess I realize there are idiots everywhere. I don't think Colored people were involved though

As far as i know, it was a race thing. Basically (please message if im wrong, im am a kiwi!) some lifeguards were attacked on the beach and a few other attacks were reported so a large group of locals congregated on the beach to protest, but some of the group was young, dumb and drunk. These few saw a dude who was of middle eastern decent and beat the **** out of him. This caused retaliations and the whole thing got out of control.

Thats what i remember about it. It was fairly savage.

Dan...

03-23-2010, 10:09 PM

What happened during that entire Cronulla Riot, thing a few years back?

I'm African American.

I guess I realize there are idiots everywhere. I don't think Colored people were involved though

There is some racial tension here but in general it is relatively minor and it is mostly involving Asian and middle-eastern nationalities. And of course the aboriginals.

jameshepenstall

03-24-2010, 12:10 AM

There is some racial tension here but in general it is relatively minor and it is mostly involving Asian and middle-eastern nationalities. And of course the aboriginals.

Granted i wasn't in Aussie long but i was warned not to go near the aboriginals and i was like "yeah, Ive been out late in the US and Britain alone, whatever" i gave a dude 50c and then next thing i know he's asking me again around the corner with a couple of others and my mate and me bolted, they weren't too menacing but i got that feeling they were a bit drugged and at any minute the 3 could become 20 asking, dodgy critters.

Dan...

03-24-2010, 12:47 AM

Granted i wasn't in Aussie long but i was warned not to go near the aboriginals and i was like "yeah, Ive been out late in the US and Britain alone, whatever" i gave a dude 50c and then next thing i know he's asking me again around the corner with a couple of others and my mate and me bolted, they weren't too menacing but i got that feeling they were a bit drugged and at any minute the 3 could become 20 asking, dodgy critters.

I have been good friends with several aboriginals over the years and I have got on well with all of them, some of the nicest blokes I know. However, and I don't care if anyone thinks I'm racist, I do believe they are an inherently lazy race.

Some of them that fall into trouble with substance abuse can get pretty tragic, but on the whole I find them to be nice people.

boxing_great

03-24-2010, 10:44 AM

I think aboriginals are really friendly people.

Dakuwaqa

03-24-2010, 10:50 AM

I have been good friends with several aboriginals over the years and I have got on well with all of them, some of the nicest blokes I know. However, and I don't care if anyone thinks I'm racist, I do believe they are an inherently lazy race.

Some of them that fall into trouble with substance abuse can get pretty tragic, but on the whole I find them to be nice people.

That sums the racism that I noticed in Australia. Even so called 'tolerant' people seem to have these kind of views. Inherently lazy? That's complete bull****.

Derranged

03-24-2010, 02:22 PM

Ever walk in to a really, really humid bathroom that stinks horribly from someone deficating in there?

Yea its something like that.

Dan...

03-24-2010, 06:43 PM

That sums the racism that I noticed in Australia. Even so called 'tolerant' people seem to have these kind of views. Inherently lazy? That's complete bull****.

All I can do is speak from my life experiences. I have come into contact with a lot of aboriginals over the years and while the vast majority of them were good guys and very easy to get along with they had absolutely no motivation to do anything productive at all.

Dan...

03-24-2010, 06:44 PM

Ever walk in to a really, really humid bathroom that stinks horribly from someone deficating in there?

Yea its something like that.

How you doing coward?

Talisayen

03-24-2010, 06:58 PM

Ever walk in to a really, really humid bathroom that stinks horribly from someone deficating in there?

Yea its something like that.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I must have to admit that was a funny post. :lol1:

Dan...

03-24-2010, 07:07 PM

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I must have to admit that was a funny post. :lol1:

You honestly found that funny Tali?

There you go ranged. First for you.

Flawless Loc

03-24-2010, 07:14 PM

All I can do is speak from my life experiences. I have come into contact with a lot of aboriginals over the years and while the vast majority of them were good guys and very easy to get along with they had absolutely no motivation to do anything productive at all.

Too much welfare. They get everything they want.

Every time you apply for a job they ask whether you are aboriginal or Torres strait islander. They are near guaranteed graduate positions within government departments and some banks. It kills the peoples self reliant and motivation.

Government intervention is a good thing,

Derranged

03-24-2010, 08:39 PM

How you doing coward?

Im doing better than I have in the past couple of months, thank you.

And yourself?

jameshepenstall

03-24-2010, 09:11 PM

that much i assumed, like i said i dont know anything about the racial harmony in Aussie. It's a bit ****ed over here. The Maori's dont get as much help as the aboriginals but they still get a lot more than the rest of us which breeds a little of that same lazy attitude.

Dan...

03-24-2010, 09:16 PM

Im doing better than I have in the past couple of months, thank you.

And yourself?

Good, good.

I split up with my long, long time girlfriend about 5 weeks ago, so big changes, but things are going well for me.

Dan...

03-24-2010, 09:17 PM

One more round

03-25-2010, 01:10 AM

That sums the racism that I noticed in Australia. Even so called 'tolerant' people seem to have these kind of views. Inherently lazy? That's complete bull****.

Yes and no.

I think he means that over the years with the substance abuse problems, and over the last few years with all the help they get in all sorts of areas, a fair few of them have become pretty lazy people, de-motivated sort of.

One more round

03-25-2010, 01:13 AM

Like, the reason there is always room in the papers for a young aboriginal doing something worthwhile is because it doesn't happen very often. Harsh fact, I know, but true.

The community has a problem with drugs, alcohol, sex abuse etc, and it really inhibits the way for young people to be successful, and most of them don't want to be anyway, much happier getting high, pissed, getting their government check etc

Dan...

03-25-2010, 03:33 AM

To be honest what I mean is that their cultural values are just different to ours. The vast majority of them just don't have it in them to get out there and make something of themselves in the modern world. It just isn't their way.

Phil Ivey

03-25-2010, 08:41 AM

If your a person who loves culture similar to European cities with the cafe culture go visit Melbourne, if you love the scenery, beaches, otherwise decent restaurants (Melb has too) go see Sydney. Melbourne is a great place but it depends on what you prefer really, I prefer Sydney but that's because where I live. I live near the Sydney CBD and the scenery is absolutely stunning, but other suburbs (notably western suburbs) are just terrible which some seemingly represents a 2nd world country. Sydney is also a very expensive city but if you have a lot of money you'll have a good time there. Melbourne on the other hand is cheaper, overall better suburbs and people I reckon, the culture in Melbourne is more embraced than Sydney. Sydney has more of a corporate feeling to it, whilst Melbourne does not. In terms of nightlife they're both pretty even and decent but I do prefer Sydney slightly better for some reason. So basically, if you're an artsy person who loves culture and people etc go to Melbourne, otherwise go to Sydney. My advice is go to both but during summer definitely visit Sydney or Queensland's Goldcoast, there's pretty much no competition in Melbourne when it comes to beaches/surfing but they make it up by having much better shopping.
To put it in a nutshell Sydney - Newyork and Melbourne - San Francisco. Overall I reckon Melbourne is the way to go in terms of living there, in terms of tourist attractions - Sydney. If you're a regular visit to Australia then you'd probably favor Melbourne more.

Dan...

03-25-2010, 07:52 PM

Dude, paragraphs are good.

jameshepenstall

03-25-2010, 08:53 PM

If your a person who loves culture similar...........

Sydney and Canberra is the only state capitals i havent visited. Did a tour from Brisbane up the coast and inland a bit. Overall Melbourne is the place i'd live in Aussie if i went there.

skyler

03-27-2010, 12:47 PM

I've been thinking about moving here after I finish College. Its a 1st world Country, so I know not all is good, but the pacing of it seems a lot more chill than where I am right now.

I'm big into Sports and outdoors.

Also where I'm living now weather -10 C to 15C doesn't even phase me(And it gets much colder), so winter in Australia wouldn't be a factor.
I'v only ever been to Bali so I can't compare it to anywhere else.. but what's there not to love? The weather is great, The people will usually always give someone a fair go and always helping each other out, the women are beautiful and we have some pretty damn good beaches aswell.. a real laid back country.

We also have our fair share of dickheads and ignorant people but just like any other country no place is perfect but Australia comes pretty damn close.