who do you guys think is the "Greatest Rapper of All Time" in your opinions...


mine would be 2Pac

yawn....

murda mase
spent time in h-a-w-a-i-i
mase will you please stop smokin lala
puff why try ima thug ima die high
....
do you hate cuz you got a p-h-d
playa hatin degree

show me something lyrically nastier than this:

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good luck

I still think that there are only a few different grading methods where 2Pac isn't #1. GOAT to me involves more than lyrical wordplay. Based on lyrical ability, crossover appeal, emotion, voice, and impact on the genre, I think Tupac Amaru Shakur will likely never be topped.

show me something lyrically nastier than this:

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good luck

what does that have to do with anything?

what does that have to do with anything?

um, the topic?

um, the topic?

HA! Come on now GODZ, hes 17, share with him dont throw at him....

la opinion de uno.....

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um, the topic?

being lyrical doesn't make you the goat :nono:

alotta respectable choices here except this one...

yawn....

murda mase
spent time in h-a-w-a-i-i
mase will you please stop smokin lala
puff why try ima thug ima die high
....
do you hate cuz you got a p-h-d
playa hatin degree

I love Mase, but hes not the goat (no homo)...if he was more consistent after harlem world, who knows...i mean, he had the flow, lyrics, and ability to make mainstream hits...effortlessly

show me something lyrically nastier than this:

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good luck

Gotta agree with u this time sir, we might not see eye to eye with dipset but thats all good. Rakim>>>

Jay-Z. Im not even that big of a fan of his anymore. only a moderate fan now. the last few weeks i've barley listened to him, but i still like him. but hes the best to me because he went from 1996-2003 with an album every year. And he went from 1998-2003 with a hit song or more every year. And to me he has 3-5 classic albums. And then you have to take into consideration that hes maintained a strong relevancy from 1998-2010. Thats a long time to be still be considered cool in hip hop which has a young demographic. Also 11 #1 albums, add that to the flow and witty word play.......those are my main reasons

LL Cool J ...just to be different.

I agree with Neils.. 2Pac is the greatest as far as the whole package.
he could do just about any style + a decent singer and had major crossover appeal.
The bad: Used too many 'go to' rhymes.

Biggie was better than 2Pac in lyrics,flow, singing ability, and fast raps.
He died to soon to tell if he would have had crossover appeal.

Krayzie & Bizzy- Bone: Obviously great flow speed singing ability crossover appeal.
The bad:have repetitive lyrics and subject matter.

Eminem: Best ever at word play 'imo'
The bad: repetitive subject matter.

Lil Wayne: GTFO...

Nas: Perhaps the best lyrically of all time,story telling
The bad: somewhat monotone. No matter what the song is his voice always sounds the same.

Jay-z: Great lyrics,good story telling
The bad: Jacks far too many lyrics and has become gimmicky over the years.

DMX: again great lyrics, good word play, powerful voice,Good story telling.
The bad: repetitive content



Others
Krs-one:
Rakim
Big-L
Big Pun
Wu-tang
Snoop
Kurupt
Slick Rick
redman
Common
Scarface
erick sermon
Keith Murray

Not ranking anyone who hasn't been out for at least ten years.

Nas or Rakim...

GZA the Genius. Great in Wu-Tang, GOAT solo. His beats are laid back but compliment his incredible lyricism perfectly, he's technically perfect, he has a good voice, great storyteller. Every single aspect of his game is perfect. No question in my mind that he is the single greatest rapper of all time.

I would say the Gza was the best rapper from 93 to 97, and its definitely possible that no rapper was ever as nice as he was during that 4 year period.

maybe we should make another GOAT thread.
just one more.
or maybe two.

I would say the Gza was the best rapper from 93 to 97, and its definitely possible that no rapper was ever as nice as he was during that 4 year period.

99-03 Eminem is the best ever.. especially 03 Eminem was untouchable

Eminem is NOT better than GZA. Eminem is pretty nice, but Lights Out is right. From 93-97, the Genius is unmatchable. You have Enter the Wu-Tang AND Liquid Swords in that stretch, two of the top five greatest albums ever.

Lots of greats, only one 'Greatest', Rakim the God.

NASir Jones

maybe we should make another GOAT thread.
just one more.
or maybe two.
yea, just to be sure

I love Mase, but hes not the goat (no homo)...if he was more consistent after harlem world, who knows...i mean, he had the flow, lyrics, and ability to make mainstream hits...effortlessly


i dunno, i find myself pulling out mase when walkin dark alleys :crucified

Eminem is NOT better than GZA. Eminem is pretty nice, but Lights Out is right. From 93-97, the Genius is unmatchable. You have Enter the Wu-Tang AND Liquid Swords in that stretch, two of the top five greatest albums ever.

get the **** outta here.. Eminem = top 5, GZA ain't even top 20.. i can name you better rappers than him

Fine. Name 20 rappers better than GZA. Because you definitely cannot name 20 albums better than Liquid Swords.

B.I.G.

As Nas said, he was the professor of how it should be done.

Nas. Give it 5 years after he officially calls it a day, and everyone will agree.

Fine. Name 20 rappers better than GZA. Because you definitely cannot name 20 albums better than Liquid Swords.

Nas
2Pac
Redman
Andre 3000
BIG
Jay-Z
KGP
BDK
KRS-One
Rakim
Eminem
Big L
Big Pun
Method Man
Ghostface Killah
Ice Cube
Scarface
LL Cool J
Mos Def
Common


and if you have one of the greatest albums of all time, doesn't make you top 5 or wherever you place him.. and yes Eminem is better than GZA

B.I.G.

As Nas said, he was the professor of how it should be done.

Nas also said Rakim was the Greatest Rapper Ever?

Gza - Liquid Swords. period.

think about like this....10 yrs from now you'll still be able to sit back and listen to Liquid Swords and still be impressed. it will still be relevant. Eminem on the other hand isnt even relevant right now. unless ofcourse you really love the guy for other reasons, like the media has, he really isnt anything special.

the topic goes beyond popularity. IMO record sales mean jack. It's the smaller labels and less radio friendly tracks that carry more weight as time goes on. MF Doom isnt all over the airwaves, or popping up on the video screen, but he's making some really good music from the heart, and it will be discovered by anyone who cares to listen.

dont even get me started on that corny movie, 8 mile.

should make a greatest album thread.

Nas
2Pac
Redman
Andre 3000
BIG
Jay-Z
KGP
BDK
KRS-One
Rakim
Eminem
Big L
Big Pun
Method Man
Ghostface Killah
Ice Cube
Scarface
LL Cool J
Mos Def
Common


and if you have one of the greatest albums of all time, doesn't make you top 5 or wherever you place him.. and yes Eminem is better than GZA

If you think that Eminem, Method Man, LL Cool J, Redman and Andre 3000 are better than GZA, I'm not sure our tastes are compatible enough to ever agree on this.

Clint650 knows what's up. Liquid Swords is timeless.

If you think that Eminem, Method Man, LL Cool J, Redman and Andre 3000 are better than GZA, I'm not sure our tastes are compatible enough to ever agree on this.

Clint650 knows what's up. Liquid Swords is timeless.

Andre 3000 is the goat MC.. not a rapper but an MC.. and that's your opinion on that.. lol @ you jumping on Clint's dick

dont even get me started on that corny movie, 8 mile.

what's up with the hate?

I wasn't jumping on anyone's dick. The man agrees with me. And Andre300 is great, but GOAT? Are you kidding?

LL Cool J!

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Christopher "BIG PUN" Rios. Listen to "You ain't a killer" and tell me I'm wrong

what's up with the hate?

raps at the roach coach...."his boots are starting to grow roots"

not hating, just wasn't one of the many fans blown away by Em. think it has to do with his tone. some guys with higher pitched voices come off either cool or annoying. B-real is sick, so is Sick Jacken. i'm sure it has a lot to do with the fact that Slim Shady was played a billion times every day for too long. many of Slim's choruses can wear on my ears. the guy is talented though, just not GOAT.

how did i forget LL?

you know in retrospect...LL Cool J's "BAD" album was soooo dope. that guy right there, on the cover of that album....YES....HE'S THE BADDEST!!!!!

Ice Cube bar none. Classics, impact, relevance, etc. He has it all.

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Spanning more than two decades.

I wasn't jumping on anyone's dick. The man agrees with me. And Andre300 is great, but GOAT? Are you kidding?

MC and a rapper is 2 different things..

Christopher "BIG PUN" Rios. Listen to "You ain't a killer" and tell me I'm wrong

one song makes you the goat?? and there are plenty of songs that are better than what you mentioned.

Big Poppa..............