View Full Version : Lyoto Machida's Father Says He Must Fight Anderson Silva


Rabbit ♠
01-15-2010, 11:20 AM
I wrote an article a few days back entitled 10 Things MMA Could Live Without in 2010 and one of my gripes was friends or teammates not fighting each other. Shizio Machida, Lyoto's Father, did an interview with PVT Mag in which he agrees that Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida need to go at it at some point.


There is only one champion, so I believe this fight must happen. It's a professional issue, and I believe they can fight. Deep down, everyone wants to know who is strongest. Friendship is friendship, but they're not amateurs. The eventual winner isn't my concern. What matters to me is how they win, and their strategy. This would be a mental battle...I really like Anderson. He didn't train Karate, but knew it instinctively. Standing switches, stances, how to use his waist, moving with purpose as he advances and backs away, dancing without getting hit. The future of MMA isn't who can take more punishment, but the one who leaves with a clean face. Many fights are pure slugfests, but people don't see things ten years into the future.


I think Shizio sums it pretty well when he says its a professional issue and they're not amateurs. Of course it's ultimately not up to him, but the 2 fighters themselves and even if Shizio convinces Lyoto, Anderson still must agree. So it's still far fetched in my opinion, but we can dream.
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Napalm Death
01-15-2010, 11:30 AM
judging by machidas last fight, it wouldnt be too hard to see anderson koing or submitting him.

Ether
01-15-2010, 12:13 PM
I Disagree.

I believe lyoto is one of the only few who would take his time upon whooping andersons ass. He has the perfect evasion style of defense for Silva. Would be great to see the fight, they refuse though.

AssasinKing
01-15-2010, 12:33 PM
I Disagree.

I believe lyoto is one of the only few who would take his time upon whooping andersons ass. He has the perfect evasion style of defense for Silva. Would be great to see the fight, they refuse though.

Lol there is no such thing...

Silva is a beast....he toyed with people even when he went up in weight...

I will pick him over machida even as good as machida is.....i think silva and GSP are the number ones in the sport...

kaps
01-15-2010, 12:34 PM
I say Anderson takes it, he knows Machida's game as good as anybody and has more precise Muay Thai than Shogun who clearly beat Machida despite what the judges said...

StillUnknown
01-15-2010, 03:04 PM
i think Anderson would win a decision

i think it has the potential to be an incredibly boring fight though. both Anderson & Machida are at their best when counter-striking. i could see alot of dancing and stalling on the feet while one waits for the other to make a move

snakey112
01-15-2010, 04:31 PM
lyoto should be worrying about shogun before he starts thinking about taking on the spider

tocayito1
01-15-2010, 05:46 PM
i got machida...anderson has awesome striking but his defense is non existent and is very predictable defensively....i think machida is smart enough and patient enough to counter the **** out of anderson and win a ud...he wont ko him unless he lands a big bomb

DiLLiNGER
01-15-2010, 06:11 PM
rematch with shogun first .

GroundSt.Pound
01-15-2010, 06:40 PM
I Disagree.

I believe lyoto is one of the only few who would take his time upon whooping andersons ass. He has the perfect evasion style of defense for Silva. Would be great to see the fight, they refuse though.

He didn't even have the style to beat Shogun, what makes you think he could hold his own with Silva?

It doesn't matter though, Shogun is going to smash Machida soon

i got machida...anderson has awesome striking but his defense is non existent and is very predictable defensively....i think machida is smart enough and patient enough to counter the **** out of anderson and win a ud...he wont ko him unless he lands a big bomb


Is this some kind of joke? Anderson has great defense and whatever he lacks by your standards, he makes up with a very, very underrated chin.

tocayito1
01-15-2010, 06:53 PM
He didn't even have the style to beat Shogun, what makes you think he could hold his own with Silva?

It doesn't matter though, Shogun is going to smash Machida soon




Is this some kind of joke? Anderson has great defense and whatever he lacks by your standards, he makes up with a very, very underrated chin.

if you look at the way he "bobs and weaves" have you not noticed that he does the same thing no matter what his opponent throws? its not like hes ducking strikes coming in..he just pulls his head down then up then down again in a very predictable way...anybody who knows anything about striking or countering like myself can see that...and i think machida would be able to catch that too....having a good chin has nothing to do with defense...having a good chin means that you can take a good shot not defend it...and i said machida wont ko anderson unless he lands a huge bomb because anybody can be ko'd besides myself

GroundSt.Pound
01-15-2010, 07:26 PM
if you look at the way he "bobs and weaves" have you not noticed that he does the same thing no matter what his opponent throws? its not like hes ducking strikes coming in..he just pulls his head down then up then down again in a very predictable way...anybody who knows anything about striking or countering like myself can see that...and i think machida would be able to catch that too....having a good chin has nothing to do with defense...having a good chin means that you can take a good shot not defend it...and i said machida wont ko anderson unless he lands a huge bomb because anybody can be ko'd besides myself

Yes but yet it's surprisingly effective isn't it?

I never said chin had to do anything with defense, I said whatever he lacks in defense, which isn't much IMO, he more than makes up for with the ability to take a shot if he can't get out of the way in time.

I really just don't see how anybody can be discussing Machida/Silva when Machida really didn't even beat Shogun.

Junito-Rulez
01-15-2010, 07:30 PM
Lyoto's father should stfu. Shogun deserves a rematch first; then his piss drinking son might fight Anderson Silva. Like other stated before, i think Machida VS Silva would be boring as **** too. They're pretty even and both VERY defensive fighters.

The_Demon
01-15-2010, 07:33 PM
Anderson would win

tocayito1
01-16-2010, 12:29 PM
Yes but yet it's surprisingly effective isn't it?

I never said chin had to do anything with defense, I said whatever he lacks in defense, which isn't much IMO, he more than makes up for with the ability to take a shot if he can't get out of the way in time.

I really just don't see how anybody can be discussing Machida/Silva when Machida really didn't even beat Shogun.

my bad then I misunderstood what you meant...i think its been affective because he hasn't fought counter punchers or people who have noticed that....hes fought grapplers and forrest and Franklin...I might be mssing some one but idk...and yea he does need to beat shogun first but his was just to answer question from ts

Nodogoshi
01-16-2010, 12:41 PM
One thing of note here is that Anderson's and Shogon's stand-up styles are both on Muay Thai in large part. Shogun gave Lyoto fits in terms of striking, which begs the question of whether his Muay Thai style had anything to do with it. Of course every fighter (and fight) is unique, training background notwithstanding, but I think this is something worthy of note.

F l i c k e r
01-17-2010, 09:21 PM
Machida will win... He has Ryu and Ken's style. But for real, Machida would win because he is a point fighter FIRST and if you get hurt, he will try to finish you. If not, he will just point fight you.


I wouldn't judge Machida by his last fight because he only proves that he will point fight to death. Anyone who thinks Rua won was simply listening to Rogan's big mouth. Just because you land 4 big/loud shots, doesn't mean you win if I land damn near 100% of mine.

Just common sense. :dunno:

Nodogoshi
01-17-2010, 09:56 PM
Machida will win... He has Ryu and Ken's style. But for real, Machida would win because he is a point fighter FIRST and if you get hurt, he will try to finish you. If not, he will just point fight you.


I wouldn't judge Machida by his last fight because he only proves that he will point fight to death. Anyone who thinks Rua won was simply listening to Rogan's big mouth. Just because you land 4 big/loud shots, doesn't mean you win if I land damn near 100% of mine.

Just common sense. :dunno:

You're clearly in a very small minority.

And suggesting that Rogan's commentary is the reason for this is bull****.

evilp0ptart
01-17-2010, 10:49 PM
You're clearly in a very small minority.

And suggesting that Rogan's commentary is the reason for this is bull****.

QFT mutha****ahs

I can see Anderson winning either a boring close UD, or maybe a KO depending on how aggressive the fight gets (which most likely wont be aggressive at all)

F l i c k e r
01-17-2010, 10:59 PM
You're clearly in a very small minority.

And suggesting that Rogan's commentary is the reason for this is bull****.

Apparently I am the only one who watched the fight with my eyes and not my ears.

Shogun was landing big shots. Machida was landing more shots. 10 vs 100? I think the guy who landed 100 should win if it goes to decision.

QFT mutha****ahs

I can see Anderson winning either a boring close UD, or maybe a KO depending on how aggressive the fight gets (which most likely wont be aggressive at all)

Exactly how that fight would go. Boring.... I go with Machida though because he is more comfortable doing it. I think Silva just likes to play around.

evilp0ptart
01-17-2010, 11:15 PM
Apparently I am the only one who watched the fight with my eyes and not my ears.

Shogun was landing big shots. Machida was landing more shots. 10 vs 100? I think the guy who landed 100 should win if it goes to decision.



Exactly how that fight would go. Boring.... I go with Machida though because he is more comfortable doing it. I think Silva just likes to play around.

http://fightmetric.com/fights/Machida-Shogun.html

Sorry, I'm terrible with computers so I can't post the pic up myself, you will actually have to click on the link all by yourselves.

It wasn't quite 10-100 in favor of Machida in strikes, it was more like 82-42 in favor of Shogun. Shogun scored more leg kicks than Machida did strikes in the entire fight.

I agree about Silva though, he definitely plays and toys around waaay too much with his opponent. I would hope he'd take Machida a lil less lightly.

Nodogoshi
01-18-2010, 03:38 AM
Apparently I am the only one who watched the fight with my eyes and not my ears.

Shogun was landing big shots. Machida was landing more shots. 10 vs 100? I think the guy who landed 100 should win if it goes to decision.


Well, whatever then. If I remember correctly you are also the guy who said that if Pacquiao is able to knockout Clotty it is proof that he is on steroids, so you don`t exactly rank highly in my book in terms of credibility. If you want to believe that Machida clearly deserved a decision then more power to you.