One of my buddies in the other site was listening to ring talk live world wide last sunday as they were discussing the aftermath of the Morales vs Barrera fight when Larry Merhcant was asked by the host Pedro Fernandez to rank the featherweight division. Larry Merchant said, "in my mind, pacquiao is still no.1 among the featherweights, barrera is second with marquez right with him and then morales." That's something coming from the godfather of the hbo boxing especially mb & em being hbo fighters.

Why would Larry (a veteran in the boxing world) consider Manny as his No. 1 featherweight? For me: maybe Manny for him is the most talented and explosive of them all.

Well, he's up there in the pound 4 pound, took out the featherweight king pin(bad night or not), gave Marquez hell with a draw that I think Merchant even believed Manny should have won so he considers it as Manny won it, thus he sees in Manny that he only had to go through Morales. Morales had yet to fight Marquez, same with Barrera, and Morales couldn't KO Barrera. I dunno, I guess you put all this together, and you can see where Manny stands among them all.

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couldnt of said it better :rolleyes: if ur a boxing fan u would of heard that merchants favorite boxers are manny and barrera and who cares what one person says thats his opinions and only his :rolleyes:

pac is nice

Diversity Bros . . . diversity . . . where ever you go there will always be different opinions . . . just a matter of chosing the most logical one. :D

"Got to beat the man to be the man", right? Well Pac beat MAB who was regarded the King of Featherweight so he now has the title. No MATTER what arguements the ANTI PacS use . . . he will remain to be the number one Featherweight until somebody beat him and get that title from him.

He's the closest to being the lineal champ in the 126lb. division..

Pac has the ring belt AND he beat MAB who was the man at 126.

we all know what most people on this sditec think about merchant.

Pac has the ring belt AND he beat MAB who was the man at 126.

True, but drawing with JMM after such a huge comfortable lead is far from impressive....I guess it just all depends on what kind of socks you have on..

He drew on the judges cards. I thought Pacquaio won the fight.

If not Pacquaio, who SHOULD be #1 featherweight?
The only other person you can consider at this point is Barrera and as I have pointed out, Pacquaio already beat him.

He drew on the judges cards. I thought Pacquaio won the fight.

If not Pacquaio, who SHOULD be #1 featherweight?
The only other person you can consider at this point is Barrera and as I have pointed out, Pacquaio already beat him.

There is no doubt, he the #1 Featherweight right now. However, I still think Erik Morales can beat him.

well i thought marquez won. and dished out a boxing lesson.
if marco was the man at 126 why werent they fighting for the undisputed titles?
So marquez is rthe number one featherwieght in my book, been the champ longest most defences beaten the most "names" there.

also MAB nor morales have beaten the current incumbant Marquez, so a huge argument can be made for marquez being the linear champ as he has been at the top the longest. Aint his fault that mab vacated.

one win and a loss, oops sorry, draw, do not make you the number one featherweight of all time, nor in the world, nor even in asia.

Im not fully convinced pacman would beat the monster at feather that is Injin chi.

he still has a lot to prove.

well i thought marquez won. and dished out a boxing lesson.
if marco was the man at 126 why werent they fighting for the undisputed titles?
So marquez is rthe number one featherwieght in my book, been the champ longest most defences beaten the most "names" there.

also MAB nor morales have beaten the current incumbant Marquez, so a huge argument can be made for marquez being the linear champ as he has been at the top the longest. Aint his fault that mab vacated.

one win and a loss, oops sorry, draw, do not make you the number one featherweight of all time, nor in the world, nor even in asia.

Im not fully convinced pacman would beat the monster at feather that is Injin chi.

he still has a lot to prove.

All in due time....its cool to be a skeptic beacsue you get pleasently surprised.

Hope by the end of summer next year we will see who's best.

manny is the #1 featherweight. barrera was considered the king of the division. manny beat the king, you dont lose your title in a draw. manny is #1

manny is the #1 featherweight. barrera was considered the king of the division. manny beat the king, you dont lose your title in a draw. manny is #1

manny had no titles to begin with. it was jmm with the titles. all manny has is a a magazines title of peoples champ. jmm and mab actually have belts. manny had his chance at a few belts as a recall but a bad choice in socks cost him the belts.

I don't see how the 'magazine's belt' is any less significant than the alphabet title belts JMM has. At least The Ring makes an effort to be unbiased.

I don't see how the 'magazine's belt' is any less significant than the alphabet title belts JMM has. At least The Ring makes an effort to be unbiased.

ahahahahaha! thats rich! you get an a for effort. good karma for a good laugh.

There is no doubt, he the #1 Featherweight right now. However, I still think Erik Morales can beat him.

But Morales isn't at featherweight. He's at super feather. And it would be interesting to see what he does next after his loss to Barrera. Same for Barrera too, what does he do next? Stay at super feather and defend, move up (not likely), or go back to 126?

I have Pac and Marquez tied as #1 in the Featherweight rankings, since they didn't quite settle things in their last bout (but it was a F.O.Y. at least). Pac got the slight edge on quite a few of the observers cards as did Marquez, it was close;
At least Manny had the drive to keep on the offensive, most fighters going against Marquez are frustrated by his counter-punching up to the point that they resign themselves to a pact of non-aggression. Not so for the flamboyant power-puncher, he took the fight to Marquez until the end, and Marquez did what he had to do by countering his charges. I got my money's worth on that fight (since I bet on a draw)

I have respect for both, but I'd need to see the next few months before I change my rankings. Barrera doesn't count here, unless he moves back down, he's #1 at Super Feather (since Morales beat two of the top 130s to gain the WBC and IBF straps, and Morales was decisioned by MAB).

He woudlnt be the only one who thinks hes the best

manny had no titles to begin with. it was jmm with the titles. all manny has is a a magazines title of peoples champ. jmm and mab actually have belts. manny had his chance at a few belts as a recall but a bad choice in socks cost him the belts.

Manny has been champ in two different weight divisions already. But you know what Alphabet titles dont mean ****. Harrison has one but no one is convinced he is elite.

manny is great..but not number one..and sure as hell not pound 4 pound anything (yet atleast)..i mean he couldnt finish off JMM..if he beats JMM and then EM and mab..which he has stated he wants all 3..then i have no problem saying he's a p4p guy..but right now..hell no...he's just good

manny is great..but not number one..and sure as hell not pound 4 pound anything (yet atleast)..i mean he couldnt finish off JMM..if he beats JMM and then EM and mab..which he has stated he wants all 3..then i have no problem saying he's a p4p guy..but right now..hell no...he's just good

ok, so what would you make off the barrera win?

not being able to beat JMM..realy made everyone think.."what if mab really wasnt at his best that night"..so get me the rematch will answer a lot..and the JMM rematch will also

not being able to beat JMM..realy made everyone think.."what if mab really wasnt at his best that night"..so get me the rematch will answer a lot..and the JMM rematch will also

Bahhh I hate the fact that we'll have to wait 3 months for JMM and probably 6 for MAB.

I feel u on that

True, but drawing with JMM after such a huge comfortable lead is far from impressive....I guess it just all depends on what kind of socks you have on..


True Bro . . . it's far from impressive . . . for people who doesn't know the story behind that draw. We can't deny the fact because it has openly been discussed and publicized that without that stupid judge scoring error and the refs incompetence of not deducting a point after so many low blow warnings . . . it is far from being a draw. Despite the alleged injury of Pac he could have still won.

But you are right . . . it depends on what kind of socks you have on! :D

Cheers!

not being able to beat JMM..realy made everyone think.."what if mab really wasnt at his best that night"..so get me the rematch will answer a lot..and the JMM rematch will also


Ha . . . ha . . . ha what an arguement Bro. Not being able to beat JMM? :D Officially that's a draw . . . and it's officially recorded and documented that the judge made an error. Can anybody dispute that? The objective boxing public VERY WELL knows that those belts doesn't belong to JMM anymore. :D

Well people who doesn't want to give Pac CREDIT for what he has done will never run out of arguement to pull him down. JMM have an off night too :D or Eric is no longer the same fighter after MAB defeated him again or MAB lost again in the rematch because he already battle scarred after that third fight with Eric. And it goes on and on . . .

manny is great..but not number one..and sure as hell not pound 4 pound anything (yet atleast)..i mean he couldnt finish off JMM..if he beats JMM and then EM and mab..which he has stated he wants all 3..then i have no problem saying he's a p4p guy..but right now..hell no...he's just good

Exacty, Imtired of plp saying manny is the best blah blah nobody can take him blah blah blah, he needs to prove himself over and over and he hasent done that yet. Personally i htink Barrera had an off night and he will beat pac if they fight again.

Manny won the fight with Barrera in devastating fashion. Barrera had been the best featherweight. Manny immediately took on and, if not for wild incompetence on the part of a judge, would have beat the highest ranked contender in Juan Manuel Marquez. It's pretty simple, actually.