View Full Version : Jay-Z Says Hes Not In The Illuminati Or A Secret Society...
Truth 01-14-2010, 12:04 AM http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1629613/20100113/jay_z.jhtml
http://gossiponthis.com/2010/01/13/jay-z-denies-devil-worshiping-and-illuminati-ties-in-angie-martinez-interview/
"I got a lot of money," Hov told Power 105.1 radio host Ed Lover on Wednesday (January 13). "When people get a lot of money, they start getting those rumors like Tom Cruise, Willie Smith. That's ridiculous."-Jay-Z
“I don’t know where it started. I don’t know where it came from. I really think it’s really silly. For the record, I of course believe in God, but I believe in one God. If people must know my religious beliefs, I believe in one God. I don’t believe in religion. I don’t believe in Christians or Muslims. I think all that separates people. I think it’s one God. I think it’s all the same God, and I don’t believe in Hell. But as far as God, of course I believe in God. Am I a part of some sec or cult? That sounds stupid to me. It’s like ignorant to even say, and umm… I guess that’ll be the last time I address that. It’s ignorant to me”-Jay-Z
"I can’t even get in a golf club in Palm Springs. I’m from Marcy Projects. Just think about that? People that control the world?"-Jay-Z
"Do you believe that those sort of organizations exist?
I think there are cliques of friends that control things. I don’t if there is a devil worshiping sect. That’s a little Tom hanks. I believe there are cliques of people that control the world…but that’s just natural process. I’m sure Obama has his people and everything is good but as far as how far people are taking it…"-Jay-Z
"So you don’t intentionally do this to put people in a frenzy?
I’m an entertainer at the end of the day. Maybe I’ll push your buttons but you know…"-Jay-Z
Jay could be just lying, hence the word "secret." But I do think there is some possibility(even if its small) that this whole time hes not really any of these things, but hes playing into for publicity. Good to see someone finally had the balls to ask him about it....lol
Truth 01-14-2010, 12:08 AM Theres more in the article. The director of "On to the next one" talks and so does Swizz Beatz. so check out the link for more if you want....
PECKERWOOD 01-14-2010, 12:09 AM I don't think he's in that **** either.
Truth 01-14-2010, 12:25 AM The director also said this......once again, he could be lying...i dunno
"So what was the overall direction Jay was looking for?
He gave me a very loose brief, and made it clear that we should be progressive with the video. All the imagery was thought up by me and was a response to the track itself. For those interested, the idea is actually about a funeral for old imagery and ideas, hence all the gothic and oppressive stuff. I was also trying to contradict the excess of hip-hop videos by making something brutally simple and claustrophobic."
TRAVI$ 01-14-2010, 05:01 PM I dunno about you, but if I was in a secret society I would definitely deny it in an interview.
Beasty 01-14-2010, 05:16 PM OF course he is a free mason..
You cant tell anybody that you are in the masons.. My uncle was in it he told me alot bout what goes on behind doors. I think there is 32 degrees or somthing
Obama is also a mason, actually all presidents are masons..
Also all judges in court are masons, you can tell because they where a ring on there finger with a G on it..
Also there is Mason signs on some peoples license plates who are masons..
Also all police officers are in the masons too.. At the very first level though, they are not high in rank and dont know anything bout what the masons REALLY do.
Masons also stand with their right leg straight and the left one touching the right foot at the heel, making 90 degree angle. And hold their left arm with their right arm on their forearm..
Also they is 5 questions u ask to masons and a real mason answers in code.
TRAVI$ 01-14-2010, 05:23 PM OF course he is a free mason..
You cant tell anybody that you are in the masons.. My uncle was in it he told me alot bout what goes on behind doors. I think there is 32 degrees or somthing
Obama is also a mason, actually all presidents are masons..
Also all judges in court are masons, you can tell because they where a ring on there finger with a G on it..
Also there is Mason signs on some peoples license plates who are masons..
Also all police officers are in the masons too.. At the very first level though, they are not high in rank and dont know anything bout what the masons REALLY do.
Masons also stand with their right leg straight and the left one touching the right foot at the heel, making 90 degree angle. And hold their left arm with their right arm on their forearm..
Also they is 5 questions u ask to masons and a real mason answers in code.
Interesting...
But what good is it standing like that?
Surely its just a giveaway.
Truth 01-14-2010, 05:33 PM I think theres a good chance hes mason. but i mean c'mon unless you've seen him at a lodge....no ones knows for 100%...you know what i mean?
Truth 01-14-2010, 05:37 PM Honestly i'd say its about 60-40 if hes a mason. thats how i see it. i lean toward him probably being a mason. but i do have my doubts.......i know theres all the clothing etc. but still just because you put logos and symbols on **** doesnt mean your actually part of it. he could be doing it on purpose for publicity and style.
Floyd Sinclair 01-14-2010, 05:38 PM In my opinion, i dont believe him....theres one piece of evidence that stands out to me from the Run this Town video
And its the sweater he had on...
http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/thouwilt.jpg
Aleister Crowley, why would jay-z look up to this piece of **** or wanna swagger jack this ***git in anyway? (i heard this guy actually was really a ***git)...Crowley enjoyed being called the wickedest man in the world
Even if the director of the video chose for him to wear that sweater...i would think he would look into it and go against it. I wouldnt wear any article of clothing that has someone who is or was gay on it. Theres too many inconsistencies for me to believe Jay-Z, im not hating...whether or not hes a freemason, or just playin into it for attention..that doesnt change what hes done for rap.
And the whole Illuminati thing, thats a misconception from people that think the illuminati and freemasons are the same thing. Although they are connected, they are not the same and Jay-Z will never be part of the Illuminati, no rapper will ever be..I thought it was funny the way he answered it though, "I can’t even get in a golf club in Palm Springs. I’m from Marcy Projects. Just think about that? People that control the world?"
lol...i dont hold any of this against him as a rapper, it has nothing to do with the great work hes put into the game
Truth 01-14-2010, 05:38 PM i think talking about this stuff is interesting(thats why i'm posting about it). but to be honest, i could care less what jayz does in his private life. i use to care but ive grown since then...
Truth 01-14-2010, 05:42 PM one thing i do believe jay-z on is him saying he doesnt worship the devil. i've always been skeptical of that. i dunno....he might put on this devil worshipping persona...but do i truly believe hes part of the church of satan? i doubt it.
like i said i'm 60-40...maybe 65 or 70- 30 on him being mason though.
Blue Heffner 01-14-2010, 07:53 PM I don't believe anything Jay-Z said, of course he's going to deny this. You have to!!!!
The illuminati is real. It's in everything.
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Libra_Por_Libra 01-14-2010, 07:58 PM You have to sell your soul if you want to stay relevant in the entertainment industry.
No one has ever been to explain why Pac called his album the The Don Killuminati.
Beasty 01-14-2010, 08:00 PM Interesting...
But what good is it standing like that?
Surely its just a giveaway.
It is not a give away because the average joe does not know these things about the masons.. And even if it is a giveaway, nobody could prove anything and noone would believe anyone who said "Look he is standing like a mason" Half the ppl are living in denial.. But i know for a fact the masons are real, look at the dollar bill and the streets of washington DC.. Jay z is an obvious member.
I think theres a good chance hes mason. but i mean c'mon unless you've seen him at a lodge....no ones knows for 100%...you know what i mean?
Jay is close to being a billionaire.. I can gurantee that he is a mason, they see the numbers he puts up and recruit him automatically..
Honestly i'd say its about 60-40 if hes a mason. thats how i see it. i lean toward him probably being a mason. but i do have my doubts.......i know theres all the clothing etc. but still just because you put logos and symbols on **** doesnt mean your actually part of it. he could be doing it on purpose for publicity and style.
Why would he play with it for publicity?
That would be dumb on his part. Like he said he is from marcy, how would he even know about the signs and symbols of the masons unless he was a member??
TRAVI$ 01-14-2010, 08:01 PM I think its all a load of ass, which has been stirred up thanks to dan brown and his ****ty book s.
Beasty 01-14-2010, 08:02 PM I don't believe anything Jay-Z said, of course he's going to deny this. You have to!!!!
The illuminati is real. It's in everything.
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Yes you have to deny it.
I believe that some famous people who have died in the past. The mason have something to do with some of the deaths. Not all.
You have to sell your soul if you want to stay relevant in the entertainment industry.
No one has ever been to explain why Pac called his album the The Don Killuminati.
Masons make you put subliminal lyrics in songs..
Blue Heffner 01-14-2010, 08:03 PM It is not a give away because the average joe does not know these things about the masons.. And even if it is a giveaway, nobody could prove anything and noone would believe anyone who said "Look he is standing like a mason" Half the ppl are living in denial.. But i know for a fact the masons are real, look at the dollar bill and the streets of washington DC.. Jay z is an obvious member.
Jay is close to being a billionaire.. I can gurantee that he is a mason, they see the numbers he puts up and recruit him automatically..
Why would he play with it for publicity?
That would be dumb on his part. Like he said he is from marcy, how would he even know about the signs and symbols of the masons unless he was a member??
I agree my man, Jay-Z is obvious and get alot more deeper than people think. My manager told me he was a mason, I said nothing else after that. Then this crazy ass female, start asking question you are not suppose to ask. I just walked off.
Libra_Por_Libra 01-14-2010, 08:03 PM Yes you have to deny it.
I believe that some famous people who have died in the past. The mason have something to do with some of the deaths. Not all.
Masons make you put subliminal lyrics in songs..Pac was going against the Illuminati and broke the oath a few times.
Beasty 01-14-2010, 08:04 PM Another thing my uncle told me waas..
If police are called to a murder, and the body is set up in a certain way they will close the case and tell the media they have no evidence and forget about it..
Kinda like Pac and biggies death..
But im not sure exactly how this is done but if a body is laying a certain way than it is a sign that someone of high power put the body like that and all the detectives and police know not to bother with it. Just act lke they are trying to solve the murder but really dont do **** bout it.
Blue Heffner 01-14-2010, 08:05 PM I think its all a load of ass, which has been stirred up thanks to dan brown and his ****ty book s.
Do you believe in God?
What would sell your soul for?
A. Money
B. Power
C. Fame
D. Other
Beasty 01-14-2010, 08:07 PM Pac was going against the Illuminati and broke the oath a few times.
And pac is no longer with us.. No one knows who killed pac either..
I just dont know for sure if pac was a mason, but i think he knew about it and did not like it and he died. For his actions
I agree my man, Jay-Z is obvious and get alot more deeper than people think. My manager told me he was a mason, I said nothing else after that. Then this crazy ass female, start asking question you are not suppose to ask. I just walked off.
Yes, my own uncle did not even want to tell me anything but i kept asking but he honestly did not want to tell me anything about it..
I experienced masonary first hand and i know its real..
They want to control americas mind, killing a few thousand ppl dont matter to them.. 9/11
Blue Heffner 01-14-2010, 08:10 PM And pac is no longer with us.. No one knows who killed pac either..
I just dont know for sure if pac was a mason, but i think he knew about it and did not like it and he died. For his actions
Yes, my own uncle did not even want to tell me anything but i kept asking but he honestly did not want to tell me anything about it..
I experienced masonary first hand and i know its real..
They want to control americas mind, killing a few thousand ppl dont matter to them.. 9/11
I know about them. There was man who claimed he smoked crack and was having sex with Obama. Months later, the same man was found dead, the **** never hit the media.
Beasty 01-14-2010, 08:14 PM I know about them. There was man who claimed he smoked crack and was having sex with Obama. Months later, the same man was found dead, the **** never hit the media.
Yes i believe that..
Also for the non mason believers, there are plenty mason buildings where i live.. They have the symbol outside on the side of the building, with a number to call if u want in..
And if u have ever been to a parade the old men driving the floats are high degree masons with the red hat on.. They give back to the community
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_c692b36nRBs/Sga06L28OII/AAAAAAAAARs/FzDdnCDKDfc/s400/Parade.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Warren_G._Harding_wearing_mason%27s_hat.jpg
These are mason hats
Blue Heffner 01-14-2010, 08:31 PM Yes i believe that..
Also for the non mason believers, there are plenty mason buildings where i live.. They have the symbol outside on the side of the building, with a number to call if u want in..
And if u have ever been to a parade the old men driving the floats are high degree masons with the red hat on.. They give back to the community
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_c692b36nRBs/Sga06L28OII/AAAAAAAAARs/FzDdnCDKDfc/s400/Parade.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Warren_G._Harding_wearing_mason%27s_hat.jpg
These are mason hats
My overall belief is that there is a certain range of money you get and they approach and don't take NO for an answer. They can make you bigger than what you are or potentially destroy your image. They have enough power to allow you to make all that money.
Beasty 01-14-2010, 08:36 PM My overall belief is that there is a certain range of money you get and they approach and don't take NO for an answer. They can make you bigger than what you are or potentially destroy your image. They have enough power to allow you to make all that money.
Yup that is basically it.
They run the media and all that, you can make good money..
Libra_Por_Libra 01-14-2010, 08:55 PM And pac is no longer with us.. No one knows who killed pac either..
I just dont know for sure if pac was a mason, but i think he knew about it and did not like it and he died. For his actions
Orlando Anderson murdered 2Pac.
Third Degree MM 01-14-2010, 09:05 PM i'll post some Illuminati Documentaries... later
here's some **** to entertain yourself
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"Illuminati want my mind soul and my body, secret society they trying to keep an eye on me" -Prodigy classic quote from "Who shot ya Rmx"
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Libido Sanchez 01-14-2010, 09:43 PM The first rule of the Illuminati is you don't talk about the Illuminati.
That's a joke, but really Jay-Z or anybody else wouldn't just come out and say they were a member.
I once read that the "code" the Illuminati speaks in is saying the opposite of what you really mean. If that's true, then Jay-Z IS admitting he's in the Illuminati...
Beasty 01-14-2010, 09:57 PM The first rule of the Illuminati is you don't talk about the Illuminati.
That's a joke, but really Jay-Z or anybody else wouldn't just come out and say they were a member.
I once read that the "code" the Illuminati speaks in is saying the opposite of what you really mean. If that's true, then Jay-Z IS admitting he's in the Illuminati...
I never heard of that say the opposite stuff
Orlando Anderson murdered 2Pac.
Thats what you are lead to believe.. MAybe he did do it, maybe the masons put him up to it..
I dont think Orlando did it.. I think that is BS
Blue Heffner 01-15-2010, 01:07 AM I never heard of that say the opposite stuff
Thats what you are lead to believe.. MAybe he did do it, maybe the masons put him up to it..
I dont think Orlando did it.. I think that is BS
Illuminati killed Pac, he was beginning to expose them.
Third Degree MM 01-15-2010, 01:22 AM Illuminati killed Pac, he was beginning to expose them.
Pac was a very small fish, i don't think it was necessary to kill him, it could have been some "street" thing, but you never know the people at the top are capable of all type of ****, all we need to know is that we can be deceived, The media lies to us all the time, a perfect example of that is what happened in Venezuela when Hugo Chavez was kicked out off office, the media here brainwashed the people of the U.S., WATCH THE DOCUMENTARY "The War on Democracy" to get the truth.
Blue Heffner 01-15-2010, 03:27 AM Pac was a very small fish, i don't think it was necessary to kill him, it could have been some "street" thing, but you never know the people at the top are capable of all type of ****, all we need to know is that we can be deceived, The media lies to us all the time, a perfect example of that is what happened in Venezuela when Hugo Chavez was kicked out off office, the media here brainwashed the people of the U.S., WATCH THE DOCUMENTARY "The War on Democracy" to get the truth.
Pac to this day is arguable the greatest hip hop artist of all time. He had big impact in music when he was alive. I wouldn't call him big fish, but he was not small.
No Ceiling 01-15-2010, 04:19 AM him and pac are member...
Beasty 01-15-2010, 08:01 AM Pac was a very small fish, i don't think it was necessary to kill him, it could have been some "street" thing, but you never know the people at the top are capable of all type of ****, all we need to know is that we can be deceived, The media lies to us all the time, a perfect example of that is what happened in Venezuela when Hugo Chavez was kicked out off office, the media here brainwashed the people of the U.S., WATCH THE DOCUMENTARY "The War on Democracy" to get the truth.
Pac was a big fish, everyone knew who tupac was back in the 90's. One of the most popular rappers ever, he had a huge influence on people..
Third Degree MM 01-15-2010, 12:50 PM Pac was a big fish, everyone knew who tupac was back in the 90's. One of the most popular rappers ever, he had a huge influence on people..
His death was the BEST publicity he got, back in 95 people would talk of pac as T.I. some, just another mainstream rapper who happened to **** around allot.
after his death his fame skyrocketed.
Third Degree MM 01-15-2010, 12:51 PM Pac to this day is arguable the greatest hip hop artist of all time. He had big impact in music when he was alive. I wouldn't call him big fish, but he was not small.
according to some, to me and most Heads dude is just another rapper, who happens to be the most famous of them all.
Floyd Sinclair 01-16-2010, 10:46 AM Freemasons trick people into becoming members. That might be what happened to Pac, when Pac was locked up he learned alot about freemasons and the illuminati. He openly spoke against them in some of his interviews and named his last album "killuminati" which combines the words Kill and Illuminati. In other words, he was starting to expose them...and that very could possibly be why hes dead.
3rd Degree MM im gonna watch them videos you posted on the previous page when i get a chance, this type of stuff gives me a boner (no homo).
Truth 01-16-2010, 11:02 AM i sold this girl some mase for protection
but it free, now thas perfections
now thats what i call some free mason
Third Degree MM 01-16-2010, 08:13 PM 3rd Degree MM im gonna watch them videos you posted on the previous page when i get a chance, this type of stuff gives me a boner (no homo).
not homo at all
Check this one out, THIS IS A MUST SEE,......(ONLY the subtitles are in spanish, but its in english)
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Great Documentary - 5/5
Beasty 01-16-2010, 11:48 PM Tupac did speak out against masons, he knew about it. I dont think he was down with it but they were maybe trying. But pac is dead, Biggie is dead to make it look like an East Vs West thing.. Very possible, even though i know people dont wanna believe that.. Jay z is the masons little *****, tupac was a real *****.. If you dont stand for nothing you will fall for anything..
Mozza 01-17-2010, 06:50 AM I know about them. There was man who claimed he smoked crack and was having sex with Obama. Months later, the same man was found dead, the **** never hit the media.
The guy was mentally ill. He took a lie detector test and failed it.
As for Jay Z, who gives a **** if he's a Mason? Frankly, it's not anyone's business.
The only conclusion I can draw from reading this thread is that many of you smoke too much hash, watch too many Oliver Stone movies, are simply gullible or too young to understand that myths about secret groups controlling Earth are just that - myths.
Truth 01-17-2010, 08:22 AM As for Jay Z, who gives a **** if he's a Mason? Frankly, it's not anyone's business.
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LMAO. it really isnt anyones buisness. but with celebrities i guess their lives are everybodys buisness because they are famous.
Truth 01-17-2010, 12:23 PM i cant be a fan jay-z. hes a great rap artist. but i cant stand hearing about him and the illuminati. its not worth being a fan of someone that has so much controversey surrounding him. so im not a fan anymore.
zaheer 04-17-2010, 06:51 PM i heard manny pacquiao is a free mason, any truth to this?
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