View Full Version : is training everyday really good?


pyrovampx
01-11-2010, 06:26 AM
I tried training everyday and just noticed I'm exhausted at training everyday and Less energy and sore everyday and muscles don't develop well.

I trained 3 days a week and noticed my energy went through the roof and my muscles starting to develop more and my abs were coming out alot clearer. I got more explosive during training too. I felt energized each session. My muscles never felt sore and I can go harder and harder each time.


So far all I;ve had is positive results with training 2-3 why do people train 5 days a week.

chris30
01-11-2010, 06:58 AM
It just depends on how well conditioned and used to training your body is. I was training 5 days a week until December and did nothing over christmas so I'm taking it steady 3 days a week until I'm back into the swing of things, then I'll step it up a gear.

Mares
01-11-2010, 07:45 AM
depends if u are hardcore then 7days a week if u are puss then 3days a week. :o

pyrovampx
01-11-2010, 07:58 AM
depends if u are hardcore then 7days a week if u are puss then 3days a week. :o


wow you're pretty dumb if you trained 7 days a week. you're muscles wouldn't have time to rest and you wouldn't get any better.

Reckoning
01-11-2010, 08:08 AM
I tried training everyday and just noticed I'm exhausted at training everyday and Less energy and sore everyday and muscles don't develop well.

I trained 3 days a week and noticed my energy went through the roof and my muscles starting to develop more and my abs were coming out alot clearer. I got more explosive during training too. I felt energized each session. My muscles never felt sore and I can go harder and harder each time.


So far all I;ve had is positive results with training 2-3 why do people train 5 days a week.

Exactly what i was doing bro, training everyday, feeling like i was more tired everyday and sore aswell. But thanks to GroundSt.Pound explained to me the importance of resting and taking some days off. Now i do my miles without any problem no soreness and with energy to spare, i take the weekends off.

Spartacus Sully
01-11-2010, 08:12 AM
I tried training everyday and just noticed I'm exhausted at training everyday and Less energy and sore everyday and muscles don't develop well.

I trained 3 days a week and noticed my energy went through the roof and my muscles starting to develop more and my abs were coming out alot clearer. I got more explosive during training too. I felt energized each session. My muscles never felt sore and I can go harder and harder each time.


So far all I;ve had is positive results with training 2-3 why do people train 5 days a week.

with properly placed rest days and structure you have time to recover and time to improve.

so fri= rest sat=improve sun=active rest mon=rest tues wed thur= regular routine. eventually you could even replace your monday rest with an active rest day and just have an easy day on sunday then you would be working out 6 times a week with more then enough recovery time and room for improvement.

John Hue
01-11-2010, 08:19 AM
The 3 pillars of training are training, nutrition and rest. Any training should be representative of the event you have in mind. If it is amateur boxing and 4 2 minute rounds. You will be doing 8 minutes of fighting with 3 breaks. Your training should be organised to support that so that you can fight comfortably at the require intensity and pace. Doing loads and loads of long long runs or long duration low intensity work outs is not going to prepare you. If you were running you would be better off doing a series of 4 high intensity 2 minute bursts rather than running large distances at a moderate pace ONCE you have a good level of core fitness. Dorian Yates did 3 1hour 10 minute super super high high high intensity workouts a week and that was it. He could not work out at that intensity for longer without diluting the intensity. He said you can either work out hard or long but not both. Many top athletes are becoming more aware of the dangers of over-training, You become bored and your body will eventually rebel and overall performance drop. You also need rest to recover a key pillar of training and good nutrition and to get the benefits f good nutrition you need rest.So rest and nutrition are critical. When you train go into the gym and mean business and go at it hard,no let off and go for quality 3 great-workouts a week is going to be a lot better for you than 7 mediocre sessions and believe me you won't be able to do 7 all out hard core sessions. Your subconscious kicks in to protect you like a circuit breaker and insures you won't overload EVEN if you think you can do it. Go for quality over quantity every time. I was a former gym rat and it took a good friend of mine a personal trainer to get me to see the light.

screwhead1
01-11-2010, 09:28 AM
what were you doing during the week? i trained 5 days a week...but i was doing my gym work monday, wednesday, and friday...sparred on tuesday and thursday...i would run with my gym partners on weekends sometimes...but the majority of the time i would wait till inside the week...a few things do factor in tho...how much do you eat? are you training in the morning or the evening? and how hard are you working daily? time? weights? cardio?

Johnni G
01-11-2010, 01:20 PM
unless you're a superathlete you need restitution.

GroundSt.Pound
01-11-2010, 06:34 PM
I wish more people knew the importance of rest and I'm glad, OP that you've discovered it.



The only way you can train that much and not have to worry about regression, is if you are using AAS because using steroids virtually eliminate the possibility of overtraining, but even then most guys that use steroids still take 1 or 2 days off from training.

cotto16
01-11-2010, 06:36 PM
I wish more people knew the importance of rest and I'm glad, OP that you've discovered it.

People think doing more= gaining more, but that's anything but true.


The only way you can train that much is if you are using AAS because using steroids virtually eliminates to possibility of overtraining, but even then most guys that use steroids still take 1 or 2 days off from training.

How many days rest should you actually have then?

GroundSt.Pound
01-11-2010, 06:39 PM
How many days rest should you actually have then?

I personally take 3 days off per week. I workout Mon, Teusday, Thrusday and Friday and take Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday off.

I'd say at the very least take 2 days off, preferably the weekends.

cotto16
01-11-2010, 06:47 PM
I personally take 3 days off per week. I workout Mon, Teusday, Thrusday and Friday and take Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday off.

I'd say at the very least take 2 days off, preferably the weekends.

and do no training what so ever? not even a light one? even if you a pro fighter?

GroundSt.Pound
01-11-2010, 07:01 PM
and do no training what so ever? not even a light one? even if you a pro fighter?

Nope, no physical activity.

I'll reiterate this again, doing more doesn't equal gaining more.

When you train you are breaking down your body, both physically and mentally.

When you are in the gym you aren't getting bigger or stronger or faster, this is what people fail to realize. When you train you are breaking yourself down.

When you rest, sleep and eat properly that's when you are healing, recuperating, recovering and gaining.

Rest is crucial and I really can't stress it enough.

Pro athletes take rest as well. Not just a couple days, sometimes months all the way up to a year. Remember Floyd Mayweather took a year off and came back looking incredible? IMO, more so than before he "retired". Not only did he look better skill wise, but he was clearly looking a lot bigger.


A lot of fighters wind down there training a week or so leading up to the fight and literally do no physical activity.

cotto16
01-11-2010, 07:09 PM
Nope, no physical activity.

I'll reiterate this again, doing more doesn't equal gaining more.

When you train you are breaking down your body, both physically and mentally.

When you are in the gym you aren't getting bigger or stronger or faster, this is what people fail to realize. When you train you are breaking yourself down.

When you rest, sleep and eat properly that's when you are healing, recuperating, recovering and gaining.

Rest is crucial and I really can't stress it enough.

Pro athletes take rest as well. Not just a couple days, sometimes months all the way up to a year. Remember Floyd Mayweather took a year off and came back looking incredible? IMO, more so than before he "retired". Not only did he look better skill wise, but he was clearly looking a lot bigger.


A lot of fighters wind down there training a week or so leading up to the fight and literally do no physical activity.

Very interesting post and helpfull........

GroundSt.Pound
01-11-2010, 07:21 PM
Very interesting post and helpfull........

Glad I can help.

Another good example of rest and recuperation being effective, IMO is Bret Favre.

The guy retires and comes back all the time and every time comes back looking great. Especially this year, which may be due to the fact that he gives his aging body a break from football. There is always the possibility that it's due to the fact that he's just an amazingly skilled QB, but Football is a brutal sport, which is why there is an off season so guys can take a break.

#1Assassin
01-11-2010, 07:32 PM
it takes time for your body to get used to the extra work. 3 days a week isnt enough if u want to compete as a boxer. the mistake u made is u need to build up slowly. almost doubling the number of days u train (going from 3 to 5) will have an effect. i would advise you top start with 4, then 5, and then 6.

as long as you get your rest in and the proper nutrition your body can handle it. if its an issue at first just slow down on the strenght and conditioning and focus more on skills.

GroundSt.Pound
01-11-2010, 07:39 PM
it takes time for your body to get used to the extra work. 3 days a week isnt enough if u want to compete as a boxer. the mistake u made is u need to build up slowly. almost doubling the number of days u train (going from 3 to 5) will have an effect. i would advise you top start with 4, then 5, and then 6.

as long as you get your rest in and the proper nutrition your body can handle it. if its an issue at first just slow down on the strenght and conditioning and focus more on skills.

Just because your body becomes used to training that much, doesn't mean that it couldn't be performing better if you took adequate time off. Why settle for mediocrity when there are methods that are better more proven methods?

Eventually over-training will catch-up to you it's only a matter of time before you hit a wall or your hormone levels will drop off due to getting older and keeping that intensive everyday training will become more and more difficult.


I know the addiction of working out and the need for daily physical activity, but rest is crucial.

#1Assassin
01-11-2010, 07:48 PM
Just because your body becomes used to training that much, doesn't mean that it couldn't be performing better if you took adequate time off. Why settle for mediocrity when there are methods that are better more proven methods?

Eventually over-training will catch-up to you it's only a matter of time before you hit a wall or your hormone levels will drop off due to getting older and keeping that intensive everyday training will become more and more difficult.


I know the addiction of working out and the need for daily physical activity, but rest is crucial.

working your body i fully agree. but when it comes to perfecting your technical skills you need to work at it alot. it doesnt break your body down or make you mediocre. quite the oposite, if your only working on your skills 3 days a week you will be mediocre skill wise.

strenght and conditioning works like u say though. but these are diffrent things that need to be aproached diffrently.

OaktownGhost
01-11-2010, 08:05 PM
I tried training everyday and just noticed I'm exhausted at training everyday and Less energy and sore everyday and muscles don't develop well.

I trained 3 days a week and noticed my energy went through the roof and my muscles starting to develop more and my abs were coming out alot clearer. I got more explosive during training too. I felt energized each session. My muscles never felt sore and I can go harder and harder each time.


So far all I;ve had is positive results with training 2-3 why do people train 5 days a week.

YOu are either

1. not eating right or enough
2.not sleeping well or enough
3.not running properly or enough
4.lazy
5. masturbate/have sex to much
or
6. not focused


pick one of the 6 or more

you need to run atleast 4-6 days a week (preferably 6)
and 5 days a week of a pure boxers workout
the 6th day should be light


if you are looking to compete that is

if not then what you are doing is alright

GroundSt.Pound
01-11-2010, 08:12 PM
YOu are either

1. not eating right or enough
2.not sleeping well or enough
3.not running properly or enough
4.lazy
5. masturbate/have sex to much
or
6. not focused


pick one of the 6 or more

you need to run atleast 4-6 days a week (preferably 6)
and 5 days a week of a pure boxers workout
the 6th day should be light


if you are looking to compete that is

if not then what you are doing is alright

Masturbating and having sex having an impact on training is an old wives tale that has proven to be bull****.

I don't agree with much else either. You don't need to run that much in one week. It's wholly unnecessary.

John Hue
01-11-2010, 08:31 PM
GroundSt.Pound is right . Not only must you rest sufficiently to recover but overtraining leads to stress mentally and physically. It just does not work and you will break down. I recommend hard workouts but fewer of them with a lot of rest in between and good nutrition. There has been a lot of research into this.

alza1988
01-11-2010, 08:57 PM
I do conditioning about 6 days at least.My indoor conditioning's probably intenser than my roadwork.All thanks to Rosstraining man.
http://www.rosstraining.com/articles/indooroptions.html

TheBlackSwifty
01-11-2010, 10:13 PM
You guys gotta keep in mind that the comments of GroundStPound mainly is about bodybuilding coz that is his thing. Rest is more importmant for bodybuilding than boxing for muscle growth, hell even olympic weightlifters will train 6 days and often training the same body part consecutively because they are going for strength, not just building mass. Boxers also have to stay at a certain weight like olympic weightlifters. Dont get me wrong you have ta rest but alot depends on the intensity of your workouts, not just how many days. you can train 6 days a week but not all should be balls to the wall high intensity 2-3hr workouts, but shorter and occasionally low intensity.

GroundSt.Pound
01-11-2010, 10:20 PM
You guys gotta keep in mind that the comments of GroundStPound mainly is about bodybuilding coz that is his thing. Rest is more importmant for bodybuilding than boxing for muscle growth, hell even olympic weightlifters will train 6 days and often training the same body part consecutively because they are going for strength, not just building mass. Boxers also have to stay at a certain weight like olympic weightlifters. Dont get me wrong you have ta rest but alot depends on the intensity of your workouts, not just how many days. you can train 6 days a week but not all should be balls to the wall high intensity 2-3hr workouts, but shorter and occasionally low intensity.

I don't train for bodybuilding. I implement isometrics and hypertrophy geared exercises into my routine, but I'm not a bodybuilder by definition.

Rest is important when it pertains to physical activity of any kind. I don't care what it is.

People act like training boxing isn't physically demanding, it is and rest is necessary.

Keeping your weight stable is necessary, yes I agree, however keeping your weight stable can also be done through diet.

DLT
01-11-2010, 10:25 PM
I use to train 2 days on, 1 off, 2 days on, 1 off, and then start all over. That was with me working different groups every time and on the 2nd week I would always rest an extra day at the end.


Now though I workout 2 days, 1 off, 2 days on again, and then 2 days off. Thats my 7 day cycle. I use to start it on Monday and have Wednesday and the Weekends off but its hard to find time to workout on week days so now I start on Wednesday. Im on Wed & Thur, off Fri, on Sat & Sun, off Mon & Tues. That is the best I think because if you have a job then you can still workout 4 times a week while only have 2 of the 4 on week days

F l i c k e r
01-11-2010, 10:32 PM
There is nothing wrong with training everyday. I only see two things wrong with training everyday...


1) Max-training everyday.
By that I mean, lifting your max everday, running your max everyday... to failure everyday. That kinda stuff. It can lead to injuries. Shin splints from running too much, torn muscles, bursitis, damaged ligaments etc etc.

2) Boredom.
You gotta be pretty creative with your workouts. Doing the same routine, even if it is every other day. You can get bored.

Other than that. Go ahead and train everyday. Nothing wrong with it. Some people will say dont but screw that. Let them do what they want. It wont hinder you, you just gotta remember to mix it up; upper body, lower body, cardio. If you want to see muscle/strength gains and fat % decrease.

DLT
01-12-2010, 01:02 AM
There is nothing wrong with training everyday. I only see two things wrong with training everyday...


1) Max-training everyday.
By that I mean, lifting your max everday, running your max everyday... to failure everyday. That kinda stuff. It can lead to injuries. Shin splints from running too much, torn muscles, bursitis, damaged ligaments etc etc.

2) Boredom.
You gotta be pretty creative with your workouts. Doing the same routine, even if it is every other day. You can get bored.

Other than that. Go ahead and train everyday. Nothing wrong with it. Some people will say dont but screw that. Let them do what they want. It wont hinder you, you just gotta remember to mix it up; upper body, lower body, cardio. If you want to see muscle/strength gains and fat % decrease.
I disagree. I think healing & recovery is a huge part of training. Its just as big as the training part. You need to take a break in between or you will just burn yourself out with no real growth in any aspect. Your muscles will break down. You have to let them recover and regroup

Spartacus Sully
01-12-2010, 01:45 AM
I disagree. I think healing & recovery is a huge part of training. Its just as big as the training part. You need to take a break in between or you will just burn yourself out with no real growth in any aspect. Your muscles will break down. You have to let them recover and regroup

sounds like some one thats trying to diet and work out at the same time.

mushahadeen
01-12-2010, 01:59 AM
I tried training everyday and just noticed I'm exhausted at training everyday and Less energy and sore everyday and muscles don't develop well.

I trained 3 days a week and noticed my energy went through the roof and my muscles starting to develop more and my abs were coming out alot clearer. I got more explosive during training too. I felt energized each session. My muscles never felt sore and I can go harder and harder each time.


So far all I;ve had is positive results with training 2-3 why do people train 5 days a week.

If you just wanna look good naked you can get away with 3-4 days per week.

If you're training for a fight you should be doing 5-6 days a week.

If you're Paulie Malignaggi you should get tested for STDs.

Mares
01-12-2010, 02:23 AM
I don't get it why people keep asking mundane trivial questions and can't think for themselves, man this **** is so simple even a 3 year can figurethis out....
If u feel ok and good about it then train, if u feel weak and tired then it means u need to take break.

One more round
01-12-2010, 02:37 AM
I train 6 days per week, with 3 or 4 of those days twice a day training. I feel fine doing this.

John Gault
01-12-2010, 08:00 AM
It depends on what we are talking about. If we are talking about training in a baseline state (not training for a fight) then training 3 or 4 times a week is normal, and your body will not have too much stress and plenty of time to recover. If we are talking about training for a fight, then you should be training 5 to 6 times a week. I train a couple pro fighters (MMA), and several amateurs, and I train with a formal professional boxer as well who was a member of the USA boxing team, and he and I have talked about this pretty extensively.

The key is to have a couple "light days" in the 5 or 6 days. Now by "light days" I mean light for the top level athlete, not for the average joe. Those light days will allow ample time for the top level athlete to recover. This training camp mode will only be maintained for 6 to 8 weeks. Then the fighter will tapper off for about a week and be ready to go. During this training camp mode, perfect nutrition and plenty of sleep is essential.

Cassius Liston
01-12-2010, 10:15 AM
Train 5-6 days ,Run on three of those days its what Mayweather senior made Hatton do.

TheBlackSwifty
01-12-2010, 01:06 PM
I don't train for bodybuilding. I implement isometrics and hypertrophy geared exercises into my routine, but I'm not a bodybuilder by definition.

Rest is important when it pertains to physical activity of any kind. I don't care what it is.

People act like training boxing isn't physically demanding, it is and rest is necessary.

Keeping your weight stable is necessary, yes I agree, however keeping your weight stable can also be done through diet.

I agree rest is important but have noticed that most of your posts relate mainly to building muscle and while it is great advice for that I think boxers need less recovery time if they are not trying to build muscle.

It depends on what we are talking about. If we are talking about training in a baseline state (not training for a fight) then training 3 or 4 times a week is normal, and your body will not have too much stress and plenty of time to recover. If we are talking about training for a fight, then you should be training 5 to 6 times a week. I train a couple pro fighters (MMA), and several amateurs, and I train with a formal professional boxer as well who was a member of the USA boxing team, and he and I have talked about this pretty extensively.

The key is to have a couple "light days" in the 5 or 6 days. Now by "light days" I mean light for the top level athlete, not for the average joe. Those light days will allow ample time for the top level athlete to recover. This training camp mode will only be maintained for 6 to 8 weeks. Then the fighter will tapper off for about a week and be ready to go. During this training camp mode, perfect nutrition and plenty of sleep is essential.

Agreed, thats what I was saying before

OaktownGhost
01-12-2010, 06:45 PM
Masturbating and having sex having an impact on training is an old wives tale that has proven to be bull****.

I don't agree with much else either. You don't need to run that much in one week. It's wholly unnecessary.

Dude I got this advice from top level trainers who train professional boxers. I also received this from reading what pro boxers do, and what they recommend for one to do. Who the **** are you? Yes running to much a week can be unnecesarry I agree, or it can be beneficial different people have different opinions on training methods. I read your other post and I agree on what you have to say about rest.

Rest, and nutrition are as important to boxing as the training itself. And anyone who says different does not know what they are talking about.


You are not running a lot with the running advice I gave. The running varies but it is better to run 5-6 days a week to be in top shape.

one day of hill runing
one day running long distance at a slow pace
one day light jog
one day semi light jog
one day 12minutes as fast as you can (basically a long sprint)
one day long distance at an okay pace


TS you can mix the days however you want but the above routine for running is perfect for getting into shape