View Full Version : Where do you rank the Klitschko's all-time?


dagrtst
01-09-2010, 02:49 PM
They're the two best heavyweights in the world, right now, and they're likely going to stay at the top, for a while.

So where do you rank both the Klitschko's, at the moment, on an all-time level?

krazyn8tive
01-09-2010, 02:50 PM
numero uno y numero dos...now, but not all time. I would say as for all time status, 11-20 somewhere

GJC
01-09-2010, 02:52 PM
Tricky one, I'm suprised this one hasn't been asked before.

Slimey Limey
01-09-2010, 02:54 PM
Wlad is already in the top 10. Vitali will soon join him.

paSSion
01-09-2010, 04:27 PM
i would say at the beginning of 11-20, because there were so many great fighters, there is just one thing they need and this is a great fight where they show their will to fight, yeah such a legenndary fight would be great for there placement in the atg, not a fight between them both, probably against haye it will be such an epic fight, say me if i stray

Sugarj
01-09-2010, 04:41 PM
Both are two excellent heavyweights. That said I ticked the bottom box because I can think of 20 more all time heavyweights who I fear are better.

Thats not to say that either or both could give the best in history a tough night on their best showing.

Earl Hickey
01-09-2010, 05:19 PM
Vitali is top 25, Wlad is top 50

JAB5239
01-10-2010, 04:32 AM
Wlad is already in the top 10. Vitali will soon join him.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

sonnyboyx2
01-10-2010, 05:13 AM
IMO Wlad is far superior to Vitali and always has been superior to him, but with the Heavyweight division in the pathetic state it has been in for the last 12yrs these 2 brothers have been able to become dominant.. in Wladimir`s case it is not beyond reason that he could well become one of the longest reigning champions in history... Both brothers have never faced a fighter in their career who could be called Class C or above with the exception of Vitali fighting an old Lennox Lewis... i think all fighters place in history depends on the opponents they beat, both Wlad & Vitali will be rated near the bottom of the Top 20

Marcov
01-10-2010, 05:22 AM
I have never seen the heavyweight division as bad as it is now. I think that and the fact that the two brothers share the top hurts.

donkim
01-10-2010, 05:39 AM
Wladimir has lost to some fighters that he perhaps should never have lost to.Although to hold this against Wlad in both unfair and hypocritical.So many of these so called "ATG's" have many losses against opposition worse than the likes of Corrie Sanders and Lamon brewster.


These old historians(apologists) always claim that we shouldn't judge a fighter by his losses,rather his victories.Wladimir has fought virtually every single top heavyweight of his era,he is currently riding a an 11 ight winning streak and holds a record of 53 wins and only 3 losses.

T3dBundy
01-10-2010, 06:09 AM
i think wlad is allready a top 10 heavyweight.

Obama
01-10-2010, 06:56 AM
Neither Klitschko is worthy of the top 20 at the moment. With a piss poor resume, losses matter more than they would otherwise. And losing by KO always hurts worse than losing by decision.

GJC
01-10-2010, 09:56 AM
Unforunately they have had very few fights that really tested them due to the weak era of HW's.
When they have been asked questions they haven't answered them too well.
I guess the only fight that might lift their respective resumes is against each other unfortunately that seems unlikely.

BillyBoxing
01-10-2010, 10:22 AM
Both are two excellent heavyweights. That said I ticked the bottom box because I can think of 20 more all time heavyweights who I fear are better.

Thats not to say that either or both could give the best in history a tough night on their best showing.

"I can think of 20 more all time heavyweights who I fear are better."


So what???
You think Patterson,Dempsey,Liston and Jeffries would have beat the Klits??
Def not.
A lot of old ATG are overrated,especially in the heavyweight division.
Modern heavies like Lewis and the klits are underated.
Jack Johnson get dropped by Ketchel,a middleweight and koed by Willard,a bum.I trouble to call Willard an athlete.

I have Lewis top 5-10 easy,and Klits top 10-20 even maybe top 15-20.
Vitali's war with Lewis is the classic.
Vit's come back at 38 years old after a 4 years lay off against a 260 lbs powerhouse like Peter ain't no Mayweather cherrypicking Marquez 130 lbs ass.

Except the 3 KOs,Wlad's career is outstanding,the HW division might be weak,but Wlad has ruined almost 70% of the top 30,the elite of the division.
.

But once again greatest isn't the best;because you cant compare eras,cuz there are different means....

BillyBoxing
01-10-2010, 10:25 AM
Wladimir has lost to some fighters that he perhaps should never have lost to.Although to hold this against Wlad in both unfair and hypocritical.So many of these so called "ATG's" have many losses against opposition worse than the likes of Corrie Sanders and Lamon brewster.


These old historians(apologists) always claim that we shouldn't judge a fighter by his losses,rather his victories.Wladimir has fought virtually every single top heavyweight of his era,he is currently riding a an 11 ight winning streak and holds a record of 53 wins and only 3 losses.

Real talk!!!

HaglerSteelChin
01-10-2010, 10:27 AM
Vitali will go down as one of the best HW of all time. I don't think you can blame a fighter if they fight in an era where the HW division is not as packed with talent ala the 1970's. In addition, his only 2 losses were TKO's due to a bad eye and a shoulder injury, both of those fights he is was winning per the opinion of many.

Wladimir has restored his career and showed he has a better chin than people give him credit for. But i don't regard him as a top 20 HW; unlike his brother.

AlboWarrior
01-10-2010, 01:05 PM
They're the two best heavyweights in the world, right now, and they're likely going to stay at the top, for a while.

So where do you rank both the Klitschko's, at the moment, on an all-time level?

Surely top ten, especially Vitali. The list of boxers which could have beaten him while they were at their best form is really short, maybe Ali with a great strategy and maybe Tyson at his prime...

BritishBoxing92
01-10-2010, 01:06 PM
They're the two best heavyweights in the world, right now, and they're likely going to stay at the top, for a while.

So where do you rank both the Klitschko's, at the moment, on an all-time level?

i rank them top in top 20...tbh i prefer Vitali to his brother wlad....

BritishBoxing92
01-10-2010, 01:08 PM
Wladimir has lost to some fighters that he perhaps should never have lost to.Although to hold this against Wlad in both unfair and hypocritical.So many of these so called "ATG's" have many losses against opposition worse than the likes of Corrie Sanders and Lamon brewster.


These old historians(apologists) always claim that we shouldn't judge a fighter by his losses,rather his victories.Wladimir has fought virtually every single top heavyweight of his era,he is currently riding a an 11 ight winning streak and holds a record of 53 wins and only 3 losses.

do you like despise joe frazier or summit?? because u have a pic of oscar bonavena flooring him then u have a signature pic of george foreman flooring him and then it says "joe frazier honouring the running man"...joe frazier most probably along with liston had one of the best left hooks in history.