View Full Version : Ruiz Vs Toney Time!!!


+= El Jefe=+
04-30-2005, 10:01 PM
its 10 pm eastern
time for John Ruiz Vs James Toney.
what do you think of the fight??

RwK
04-30-2005, 10:03 PM
Toney will beat him mercilessly.

Sn1
04-30-2005, 10:03 PM
its 3am here & my parents are still awake so im online
for boxingscenes rd by rd

Kimmy
04-30-2005, 10:08 PM
I have a feeling Ruiz will win, Toney i think blew his chance at the dinner table!

Sn1
04-30-2005, 10:09 PM
I have a feeling Ruiz will win, Toney i think blew his chance at the dinner table!
is he really looking fat ?

-GBGQ-
04-30-2005, 10:09 PM
Toney will beat him mercilessly.



ONLY IN OUR WILDEST DREAMS!

vote for pedro

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 10:11 PM
yeah he got a belly

+= El Jefe=+
04-30-2005, 10:12 PM
this fihgt is gonna be like a AA meeting
two man who dont really kno eachother
hugging, with no meaning.

akins12732
04-30-2005, 10:14 PM
i hope toney can pull it out

PBDS
04-30-2005, 10:15 PM
...Could Lewis's face get any fatter?????

PBDS
04-30-2005, 10:15 PM
....Lewis is such a bitter closet queen.

Sn1
04-30-2005, 10:16 PM
yeah me too...even though it will cost me over 230million

HayeFan
04-30-2005, 10:16 PM
...Could Lewis's face get any fatter?????

He's been fatter.

Sn1
04-30-2005, 10:21 PM
how long till they actually begin..i might have to go if its ages

+= El Jefe=+
04-30-2005, 10:23 PM
....Lewis is such a bitter closet queen.
hahahahaha

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 10:23 PM
toney will talk shiet to roy jones during the fight i bet

PBDS
04-30-2005, 10:24 PM
....He has his hands full as it is. He shouldn't get smart with Roy and risk another ass whipin.

Living Legend
04-30-2005, 10:25 PM
Uh Oh!!!!, It's about time to get it on...

-GBGQ-
04-30-2005, 10:26 PM
Keep up on the updates fellas!!

Sn1
04-30-2005, 10:28 PM
Uh Oh!!!!, It's about time to get it on...
are they in the ring yet ?

RwK
04-30-2005, 10:28 PM
Ruiz looking like a large bearded man.

+= El Jefe=+
04-30-2005, 10:28 PM
Toney: "im gonna eat the heavyweight division"
HBO: commentator: "well i think eating all day is the problem with James i think"

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 10:29 PM
i guess this is the official thread LIGHTS OUT BABY

PBDS
04-30-2005, 10:30 PM
...In the ring now Snig and ready for announcements. Lets get ready to Rumble!!!!

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 10:30 PM
RUIZ REFUSED TO SHAVE HIS BEARD after being advised to by the state athletic commision.....guess he doesnt want to shave it again and get ko'd like when he faught tua.....well not faught but got beat down

PBDS
04-30-2005, 10:30 PM
...911 tribute beforehand!!!! good work

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 10:31 PM
toney fears noone

PBDS
04-30-2005, 10:31 PM
...I can never tell with Toney, he has such a poker face.

Sn1
04-30-2005, 10:32 PM
is he looking as overweight as danny williams did aginst vklit

obviously to scale lol

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 10:32 PM
RUIZ looks old to me

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 10:32 PM
toney just got a big belly..its the biggest i;ve seen him

PBDS
04-30-2005, 10:32 PM
....He actually doesn't look that fat to me!!!!

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 10:33 PM
ruiz geting booed by his own people

PBDS
04-30-2005, 10:33 PM
...Ruiz looks like he is gonna run out at him

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 10:34 PM
ruiz loookin brave unlike before. Looks like hes actually going to want to fight him and rush him at the beginning

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 10:34 PM
Ruiz shall win.

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 10:37 PM
Look for toney to catch johnny coming in with a counter right uppercut

Konstantin
04-30-2005, 10:37 PM
Ruiz seemed to be fighting a lil bit more than he ussually does...

RwK
04-30-2005, 10:37 PM
only a matter of time before Toney catches him.

Konstantin
04-30-2005, 10:38 PM
Toneys done good not getting hit much

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 10:39 PM
round 1 goes to mr toney..ruiz clniching right off the bat

Konstantin
04-30-2005, 10:39 PM
First warning against ruiz

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 10:40 PM
I smell point deductions in this fight

Konstantin
04-30-2005, 10:41 PM
yea ref aint to lenient

Konstantin
04-30-2005, 10:42 PM
lederman has it 1-1 after second round

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 10:42 PM
is it me or does ruiz seem to rabbit punch in all his fights

wmute
04-30-2005, 10:43 PM
from what I read in the "official" commentary it looks like toney is suffering the body shots. is it the case? (I m not watching the fight)

Konstantin
04-30-2005, 10:43 PM
lol ruiz took it to toney

Kimmy
04-30-2005, 10:44 PM
who is the ref??

Konstantin
04-30-2005, 10:45 PM
ruiz won the third cause toney didnt do ****

m00ks
04-30-2005, 10:45 PM
2-1 ruiz.................

Konstantin
04-30-2005, 10:45 PM
I wish I could answer both qus but i dont know. Body punches dont seem to bother him that much. The ref is a redhead with a mustache

HayeFan
04-30-2005, 10:46 PM
Kimmy, aren't you watching it?

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 10:46 PM
Look at Ruiz's superior boxing skills. Toney is finished.

jack_the_rippuh
04-30-2005, 10:46 PM
Steve Smoger......The one who did Hopkins vs. Tito.

wmute
04-30-2005, 10:47 PM
I keep on reading about body shots by ruiz and if toney is outta shape, this is not good for him

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 10:49 PM
Toney couldn't hurt Ruiz if he had a louisville slugger.

RwK
04-30-2005, 10:49 PM
Toney making Ruiz look silly out there.

Kimmy
04-30-2005, 10:49 PM
No, can`t get that stream site to work...

m00ks
04-30-2005, 10:50 PM
Is it me or is Lampley watching another fight. He keeps on calling Ruiz punches landing when they're not.

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 10:50 PM
Toney's wondering if a career change is in order. Maybe ballet?

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 10:52 PM
Toney couldn't hurt Ruiz if he had a louisville slugger.


he did hurt ruiz tahts why he clinched

RwK
04-30-2005, 10:53 PM
Ruiz yet to win a round IMO.

m00ks
04-30-2005, 10:53 PM
Ruiz is trying to win on activity...did i just say that?

Konstantin
04-30-2005, 10:53 PM
I was really surprised that Toney had a longer reach than Ruiz...

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 10:54 PM
Toney's fat ass is going to get tired clowning like that. Look at all of Ruiz's natural born talent.

jack_the_rippuh
04-30-2005, 10:54 PM
But Ruiz clinches all the time.

HayeFan
04-30-2005, 10:54 PM
No, can`t get that stream site to work...


Sorry man, maybe ask Anorak about it, it's been a while since I went through the sign up process and I think he's watching it.

PBDS
04-30-2005, 10:54 PM
...body language, corner talk, etc. etc. leaves me thinking that Ruiz is in trouble in this fight.

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 10:56 PM
he did hurt ruiz tahts why he clinched

Then he must always be hurt because he clinches like a fat kid and a fudge pop.

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 10:57 PM
...body language, corner talk, etc. etc. leaves me thinking that Ruiz is in trouble in this fight.

No way not the greatest boxer of our generation. Ruiz is a future hall of famer.

RwK
04-30-2005, 10:57 PM
Only a matter of time before Ruiz gets caught.

m00ks
04-30-2005, 10:57 PM
Fight's all tied

m00ks
04-30-2005, 10:58 PM
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Konstantin
04-30-2005, 10:58 PM
Knock Down 1

RwK
04-30-2005, 10:58 PM
Only a matter of time before he gets caught.

wmute
04-30-2005, 10:58 PM
Only a matter of time before Ruiz gets caught.

ehm... toney is no tua

(said that, I hope one way or the other he takes the belt away from ruiz)

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 10:59 PM
well he was wobbled then he clinched..ruiz jus took round 6.. i got ruiz winning 2 rounds

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 11:00 PM
Look at Toney getting tired. Fat catching up with him now. Ruiz needs to start strategically hugging more.

-GBGQ-
04-30-2005, 11:00 PM
Who Fell??

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:01 PM
Look at Toney getting tired. Fat catching up with him now. Ruiz needs to start strategically hugging more.


so whats your real forum name? you obviously are just trying to be a dumbass in here

RwK
04-30-2005, 11:01 PM
7 rounds to 1 with the 10-8 round in favor of Toney.

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:02 PM
toneyu knocked ruiz down...ruiz claimed that toney stepped on his foot

m00ks
04-30-2005, 11:02 PM
Ah man, now that ruiz felt it, were in it for more clinches

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 11:02 PM
Ruiz is the greatest thing to happen to boxing since Ali. Quit hating on the big burrito.

wmute
04-30-2005, 11:02 PM
ehm... toney is no tua

ok I partly eat what I said

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:02 PM
ruiz is developing welts around his body from the body shots when they clinch.......hes gonna think twice before he clinches with toney

Konstantin
04-30-2005, 11:03 PM
Another knockdown but the first really was a foot

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:03 PM
if toney wins about 2 more rounds he should be guarenteed a victory if he does not go down

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 11:04 PM
ruiz is developing welts around his body from the body shots when they clinch.......hes gonna think twice before he clinches with toney

He needs to just hug him tighter and squeeze the air out of Toney until he can't breathe.

-GBGQ-
04-30-2005, 11:04 PM
Toney's giving him the business huh?

Damn, first fight I miss in about a year or so and Ruiz is actually losing!

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:04 PM
http://www.hbo.com/boxing/fights/popup_mainevent/img/round1.jpg

Konstantin
04-30-2005, 11:05 PM
lol swinging after the bell

RwK
04-30-2005, 11:05 PM
Toney having a blast out there, deservedly so. He is destroying John Ruiz mercilessly.

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 11:05 PM
He needs to just hug him tighter and squeeze the air out of Toney until he can't breathe.

I think the ref is biased against the superior boxing skills of the quiet man. This fight may be rigged.

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:06 PM
http://www.hbo.com/boxing/fights/popup_mainevent/img/round2.jpg http://www.hbo.com/boxing/fights/popup_mainevent/img/round3.jpg

-GBGQ-
04-30-2005, 11:07 PM
Was the knockdown ruled a slip or knockdown?

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:08 PM
ruiz looks more tired than toney...the body shots i tell ya why didnt anyone hit ruiz in the body when he clinched

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:09 PM
toney stepped on his foot

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 11:09 PM
ruiz looks more tired than toney...the body shots i tell ya why didnt anyone hit ruiz in the body when he clinched

No one's been as short as Toney.

PBDS
04-30-2005, 11:10 PM
....Ruiz needs the last three rounds to make it close. With King in the mix who the hell knows. If I were Toney I would pressure and go for the knockout.

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:10 PM
ruiz may not be a great fighter but now we can say toney is a legit heavyweight

wmute
04-30-2005, 11:11 PM
....Ruiz needs the last three rounds to make it close. With King in the mix who the hell knows. If I were Toney I would pressure and go for the knockout.

not seeing the fight, but I agree with the logic

how does ruiz looks?

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:11 PM
yeah with don king anything is possible..but toney probably go after king if he is robbed

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 11:11 PM
ruiz may not be a great fighter but now we can say toney is a legit heavyweight

Definately heavy.

PBDS
04-30-2005, 11:11 PM
.....So, whats everyones take on why Roy is sucking Toney's dick so hard? Just making himself look better???

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:11 PM
not seeing the fight, but I agree with the logic

how does ruiz looks?

ruiz is tired he has a bruise on hisnose welts on his stomach

Konstantin
04-30-2005, 11:12 PM
omg I just saw Toneys ass crack. 80

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:12 PM
honestly this is the best I've seen Ruiz..hes actually somewhat willing to fight and make it a fight.....but tactically he is losing the fight

PBDS
04-30-2005, 11:13 PM
.....good tenth!!!!!

RwK
04-30-2005, 11:13 PM
Toney playing opossum. Stone being the usual jackoff and telling Ruiz the wrong info in the corner. Ruiz might be in trouble.

PBDS
04-30-2005, 11:13 PM
...I would like to hit Stoney right over the head with my sons aluminum baseball bat. TING

TyrantT316
04-30-2005, 11:14 PM
so is Toney going to get robbed?

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:15 PM
roy jones tells it like it is...he ain't suckin up to ruiz.....if anything he would say how great ruiz is

jpboxer3
04-30-2005, 11:15 PM
Any notice the plummer crack Toney's sporting tonightt?LMAO!

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:15 PM
i dont know I hope toney gets another knockdwon just so theres no BS going on

Konstantin
04-30-2005, 11:17 PM
Toneys won, Ruiz is dead tired

RwK
04-30-2005, 11:17 PM
Ruiz has only won 1 round the entire fight.

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:17 PM
ruiz cant win on ledermans card unless he gets a knockdown

PBDS
04-30-2005, 11:18 PM
...Toney has won this fight clearly but something tells me after this 12th round it's gonna be an ugly decision.

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:18 PM
some rounds have been very close but RUIZ didnt clearly win any of the rounds other than a 2 rounds

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 11:18 PM
Will ruiz be robbed tonight?

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:18 PM
Will ruiz be robbed tonight?

Anorak? that you?

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:19 PM
final round......ruiz needs a ko

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 11:19 PM
I got Ruiz winning on all 11 rounds so far. Think he's going to be robbed!

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:20 PM
dont move anywhere after the fight..we could see a merchant vs toney fight

Konstantin
04-30-2005, 11:21 PM
OMFG Roy just said Toney would beat Kiltchko!?? WTF is he smoking?

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:21 PM
ruiz is very tired..toney looks amazingly fresh for his standards

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:22 PM
OMFG Roy just said Toney would beat Kiltchko!?? WTF is he smoking?


I would like to see that fight....it would be a ferak show lol......only way toney beats vitali is if he can get inside..vitali cannot punch in the inside but not sure if toney can get inside

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 11:22 PM
OMFG Roy just said Toney would beat Kiltchko!?? WTF is he smoking?

No way in hell. Damn near gives up a foot to the ukrainian.

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:22 PM
and the NEW...............

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:23 PM
maybe RUIZ needs to go challenge hopkins since he likes middleweights j/p

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 11:23 PM
Think Toney was on the juice tonight.

PBDS
04-30-2005, 11:23 PM
...This decision is gonna be scary!!!!

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 11:24 PM
Ruiz going to be robbed!!11!

RwK
04-30-2005, 11:24 PM
haha..............

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:24 PM
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050501/capt.nyjj10705010300.toney_ruiz_nyjj107.jpg
and the NEW!!!!!!

PBDS
04-30-2005, 11:24 PM
....Good decision!!!!

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:24 PM
toney wins 116-111 twice 115-112

wmute
04-30-2005, 11:25 PM
good stuff!!!!!!!!!!

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:25 PM
now its toney vs merchant

-GBGQ-
04-30-2005, 11:25 PM
what were the scores?

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 11:25 PM
Oh what a sad sad day for boxing! The great champion Ruiz has fallen to a vast conspiracy! Somebody check Toney's gloves for brass inserts!!

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:26 PM
Oh what a sad sad day for boxing! The great champion Ruiz has fallen to a vast conspiracy! Somebody check Toney's gloves for brass inserts!!


anorak?!??!?! is that you!!!!!!!!!

loangunZ
04-30-2005, 11:27 PM
116-111 and 2 for 115-112

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:27 PM
can don king bring ruiz back frmo this and make him into a champagain?

BrooklynBomber
04-30-2005, 11:28 PM
YES, YES, YES
Toney won.

RwK
04-30-2005, 11:28 PM
Toney making me laugh for the first time in history with his comments about Fox and H.B.O.

jack_the_rippuh
04-30-2005, 11:29 PM
I just **** on myself, I'm so happy.

brb...I got to get cleaned up.

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 11:29 PM
I shed a tear at the courage displayed by Ruiz's performance in spite of the world aligning against him. His footwork was something only imagined since the height of Ali! The way he danced across the ring and bobbed and weaved between Toney's punches as a thing of glory!

loangunZ
04-30-2005, 11:29 PM
I think that might be the end of ruiz

BrooklynBomber
04-30-2005, 11:29 PM
can don king bring ruiz back frmo this and make him into a champagain?
HOPE HE CANT.

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:29 PM
toney is going into the history books!!!!!!!!!!! byrd is next

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:30 PM
what does don king even see in ruiz to make him champ?

PBDS
04-30-2005, 11:30 PM
.....A good analysis earlier about Toney being relaxed and not tiring because of it. He never panics and always looks in control even when he looks hurt.

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:30 PM
he needs to replace ruiz with golota

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 11:30 PM
can don king bring ruiz back frmo this and make him into a champagain?

Ruiz was a champion upon conception! He shall return and unify the division!

PBDS
04-30-2005, 11:31 PM
...Roy is such a Klit hater. Little man syndrome!!!

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:32 PM
wow.......I have a feeling toney is gonna be like 250 for his next fight......well I guess 230 is a good weight for toney

BrooklynBomber
04-30-2005, 11:33 PM
toney is going into the history books!!!!!!!!!!! byrd is next
Nope Byrd goes to Wlad.
Vitaly vs James is what we need.

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 11:34 PM
Ruiz deserves a rematch! How about best out of three?? Pre-pay your PPV tickets now!

Zab Super Judah
04-30-2005, 11:35 PM
i would rather have toney fight someone BIG first so he can prepare for vitali

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 11:35 PM
Nope Byrd goes to Wlad.
Vitaly vs James is what we need.

Vitali would murder Toney. It'd be Lewis-Tyson all over again.

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 11:35 PM
i would rather have toney fight someone BIG first so he can prepare for vitali

Ruiz is big.

The Pretender
04-30-2005, 11:37 PM
You all will miss the exciting fights Ruiz always brought with him to the ring. Just wait.

HayeFan
04-30-2005, 11:38 PM
I'm still in shock, Ruiz fought like a man ... and lost, bonus!

Toney looked good, hopefully it's either Byrd or Klitschko next.

PBDS
04-30-2005, 11:39 PM
....Here is your money Zab. I am happy to give it to you. 1000000.00 points donated to Zab Super Judah successfully!

!! Anorak
04-30-2005, 11:48 PM
anorak?!??!?! is that you!!!!!!!!!No, it wasn't! :)

Listen - I haven't got time to go through all 17 pages - it's nearly 5am over here in Limeyland, so I'll just say this: will everyone's heart always be in their throat when they see James Toney fight?

My worst nightmare was the image of seeing him get knocked out in the remaining seconds. Seeing a little guy get beaten on by a bigger guy is a frightening thing... Toney's got a fantastic chin, but any man is capable of getting KOed, particularly in this division.

So was Toney just playing around for the first half of the fight or was Ruiz really outboxing him at times? By round six I think I had Ruiz actually ahead. What really worried me was that Toney appeared slightly anxious at first (though maybe I just couldn't read his expression on streaming) and Ruiz seemed confident.

Toney seems to have such overconfidence in his own chin he almost willingly takes shots just for kicks. But that strange wobbly dance on (ISTR) the end of the tenth round - was that a put on or was he really exhausted?

Full credit to Ruiz for trying to entertain and actually match Toney - his punching power is underrated, though in the second half he was exhausted and went back to his usual style. Did they interview him? Streaming altered to WWE before a Ruiz interview.

Okay, here's the top five bits for me, in reverse order:


5. James's "wobbly dance" - not the (involuntary?) one referenced above, but the one he did to Ruiz after Ruiz hit him after the bell.

4. James getting hit full in the face and then wiping his nose as if he had an itch on it.

3. The knockdowns.... okay, neither were real knock downs, but for a second they were exciting, weren't they?

2. (paraphrased) "Don King's gonna put him back in the trash can, the same place that he found him."



And the best part of the fight was...














1. The press conference. Let's face it, this was pretty good, but Toney wasn't as aggressive as expected, and any Ruiz fight is dull by default, even one like this. While it was highly watchable, I doubt I'd want to sit through it again, and nothing could live up to that conference.

"I am the best. I'm the best heavyweight out there."

!! Anorak
05-01-2005, 10:48 AM
Wow, 17 pages, I post and the thread dies! :)

Anyway, how long will it take this fight to be up as a quality upload, torrent or otherwise? I didn't even see the bit with Toney's ass.

So was there a Ruiz interview then?