Bruce Lee was an excellent boxer in China before hitting the states to instruct Gung Fu and launch his film career. So who's it gonna be? I give Bruce a second round KO. Even Ali at his best could not match Lee's hand speed, agility, and brilliance. Ali might be able to go a full round "floating" around but he most likely would not be "stinging" anything.

In a boxing match Ali would destroy Bruce Lee. A street fight of course would go to Lee, but in the ring Ali is one of the best ever. Ali would knock him out in the mid rounds i'd say.Lee had great speed, but if Foreman couldn't knock out Ali, there is no way Lee could do it.

Midrounds? Man, Lee would not make it out of the first round against Duran in a boxing match, let alone Ali. Ali KO's Lee with a brutal barrage of punches in the first two minutes of round one.

Let's be realistic people. Look how small Bruce Lee was. It's just a physical mismatch. The only thing Bruce Lee probably had on him were kicks and speed (probably..[U]). Lee was just to small to fight him.

Hmm
I hate to be the minority. But I have to agree with boxordie........ Seems like Bruce Lee would win that one.

This thread is about a boxing match between the two though. Lee's kicks mean nothing in the ring.

in street fight, lee would win with his speed and kicks(ali still need only 1-2 good shoot to knock lee down) but in the ring lee have no chance at all i would say lee vs jcc or someone in his size would be better fight.

Well, I wasn't talking about in a street fight. Full regulations it might be closer than I thought. I was going off of the basis of the Ali in the 64' Liston fight. To me he was not that impressive in that fight. Take a look at boxers like Archie Moore in his prime to see a good fighter.

Bruce Lee never accomplished anything in the boxing ring and I never saw anything from him that would warrant such a ridiculous matchup. I would be surprised if he could decision a top fifty (current, not all time) lightweight boxer, let alone one of the best heavyweights of all time.

In boxing Bruce would get wrecked, in a street fight, he would do some bicycle kick shit and kill Mike Tyson lol.

i would rather watch Lee against Pac man or Morales.

Both of them would knock him out early. So would their sparring partners. Bruce Lee was not well trained in boxing, and never had any kind of career in it.

WTF? Bruce Lee vs Ali?! oh my god.. u dont know shit about boxing son..

Bruce Lee over Ali ? Maybe in a KATA matchup.

When ANY mofo can claim to see a REAL Bruce Lee fight of any kind.....not one from a movie, not one from some storyteller, & not a scene of him standing for a minute before punching some undersized dope in the chest.....then come & talk about Bruce Lee beating up any boxer, in either a boxing match or a street fight.

In a boxing match Ali would destroy Bruce Lee. A street fight of course would go to Lee, but in the ring Ali is one of the best ever. Ali would knock him out in the mid rounds i'd say.Lee had great speed, but if Foreman couldn't knock out Ali, there is no way Lee could do it.

there is somthing called Ki/Chi energy, and its ancient, and us indians have something called yoga. BRuce would have KO'd ali in the first if he wanted to. Its all down to how spiritual you actually are.

Nope, its all down to Ali is one of the best ever in the boxing world, no way Bruce would even get into the 3rd or 4th in the ring. Streetfight, yeah its probably Bruce, ring its all Ali, maybee a few shots per round by Bruce if it goes past the first! Yes Ali hit harder than Bruce...get over it!

Wait ive got one, a very pissed off George Foreman Vs. Lee in a Boxing match? Oh yeah Lee all the way :smashfrea

there is somthing called Ki/Chi energy, and its ancient, and us indians have something called yoga. BRuce would have KO'd ali in the first if he wanted to. Its all down to how spiritual you actually are.

you believe in the easterbunny too, dont you?

Bruce Lee was one pretty bad ass dude. But I dont really think he had the size and strenght to hang with Ali despite his skill. however this is always a chance he gets ali in some kind of neck hold or something forces him to submit. But in a pure boxing match Ali muhammad no question.

Bruce Lee was probably the only guy quicker than Ali. ;)
The thing is this is a 'boxing' forum, so many of you understandibly don't really know many details about Bruce Lee other than that he made movies. Those interested should read up on him, pretty interesting. Tragedy that he died so early.

Bruce Lee was probably the only guy quicker than Ali. ;)
The thing is this is a 'boxing' forum, so many of you understandibly don't really know many details about Bruce Lee other than that he made movies. Those interested should read up on him, pretty interesting. Tragedy that he died so early.


Roy Jones, Ray Leonard, Meldrick Taylor, Hector Camacho.....faster than both Ali & Lee.

Bruce Lee was an excellent boxer in China before hitting the states to instruct Gung Fu and launch his film career. So who's it gonna be? I give Bruce a second round KO. Even Ali at his best could not match Lee's hand speed, agility, and brilliance. Ali might be able to go a full round "floating" around but he most likely would not be "stinging" anything.
In a K-1 fight Lee would kill him in boxing Ali would kill him......If he could catch him but he would end up stuck in the corner somewhere in the fight.

Roy Jones, Ray Leonard, Meldrick Taylor, Hector Camacho.....faster than both Ali & Lee.
I gotta disagree there

whenever I watch those guys box I can see there jabs hooks etc but when I watch Bruce Lee I barely see him move due to his extreme speed.

I suppose my pic gives the fact im a Bruce Lee fan away lol :)

if im not mistaken...
this is probably the stupidest thread ever

A discussion like this is too open. A martial artist usually does not stand a chance in the ring against a boxer. This is not to say the boxer is badder. A martial artist can not use the vast majority of his training in the ring; things like bone breaking, sudden death strikes, chokes. This is like comparing two cooks; one who can use all ingredients against one whom can only use half ingredients... Whose food will taste better? Duh. Bruce Lee would not win in the ring against Ali or any other acomplished boxer, he would just be too limited on what he's allowed to do. On the streets he would pulverize Ali and the others. Big difference between the ring with rules and no real desire to hurt and the streets with no rules and desire to hurt.

What a stupid thread.

Muhammad Ali outweighed Bruce by about 80 pounds, and trained his whole life to be a boxer.
Bruce wouldn't be able to hurt ali, he was simply too small to compete with the heavyweights. Ali ko 1st or 2nd.
Why do you think there are seperate weight division's in boxing? the fight would be a lightweight against a heavyweight.
A total mismatch in every sense of the word.

he wasnt labeled the greatest for nothing, in the ring, ali would beat tha $hit outta bruce. bruce is quick but his strikes would have no effect on ali. 1st round ko

Lets start a Jackie Chan vs Lennox Lewis thread next please

Lewis Death in 1 :D

Lets not forget that Bruce Lee was a action movie star and a practitioner of Kung Foo, not a boxer. In the ring agaist Ali he wouldn't get out of round one unless Ali carried him. Reminds me of the time I sparred with this guy who was a into MMA, he practiced Judo, Tae Kwon Do and maybe some other stuff. He told me he was going to take it easy on me (I ended up owning this kid, hitting him with everything but the kitchen sink). When we where done he said it was a good fight and told me I had a good left cross, I think he was refering to my left hook. :lol1:

what's up with bruce lee vs all these boxers. bruce would kill all of them.

u cant underestimate a kick...receivin a kick is different from receiving a punch...a kick could break your ribs with a good side kick. a punch cant do that unless ur jus...superman. so ultimately with bruce lee able 2 kickin 300 pound heavy bag with one kick...ali is screwed. and bruce lee reads his opponents hes reflexes r 2 fast alis screwed and if nobody learnt wing chun. hell if ur a master one punch...is hella strong its not about muscles its about inner chi. Also if its a no gloves match. bruce lee will for sure kick alis ass. cuz were tlkin about kung fu here. all bruce lee needs is a nice attack on all of alis pressure points and his outta here

u cant underestimate a kick...receivin a kick is different from receiving a punch...a kick could break your ribs with a good side kick. a punch cant do that unless ur jus...superman. so ultimately with bruce lee able 2 kickin 300 pound heavy bag with one kick...ali is screwed. and bruce lee reads his opponents hes reflexes r 2 fast alis screwed and if nobody learnt wing chun. hell if ur a master one punch...is hella strong its not about muscles its about inner chi. Also if its a no gloves match. bruce lee will for sure kick alis ass. cuz were tlkin about kung fu here. all bruce lee needs is a nice attack on all of alis pressure points and his outta here

A nice beak to a pressure point attack out of flying crane, ninja tiger stance? ROFL another guy that watched too much enter the dragon as a kid. INNER CHI... MUWHAHAHAH, its about punching mechanics, and it doesn't translate into effective punching whatsoever. Bruce Lee could kick and move a 300 pound bag? and, what blackbelt, average joe martial artist couldn't? Ive seenguys do that with round kicks, which is effective unlike a RUNNING SIDEKICK. He reads his opponents and his reflexes are too fast? sure in enter the dragon, but what real fight did you see this in? False perception by another blinded by hype/

what's up with bruce lee vs all these boxers. bruce would kill all of them.

I have lost all respect for your opinion. Bruce lee would kill him, yet you and others after all this time have not provided any evidence suggesting he beat top notch ANYONE.

lol are we trying to makes this to 100 pages too? :)

c'mon, let's beat the other thread :D

u cant underestimate a kick...receivin a kick is different from receiving a punch...a kick could break your ribs with a good side kick. a punch cant do that unless ur jus...superman. so ultimately with bruce lee able 2 kickin 300 pound heavy bag with one kick...ali is screwed. and bruce lee reads his opponents hes reflexes r 2 fast alis screwed and if nobody learnt wing chun. hell if ur a master one punch...is hella strong its not about muscles its about inner chi. Also if its a no gloves match. bruce lee will for sure kick alis ass. cuz were tlkin about kung fu here. all bruce lee needs is a nice attack on all of alis pressure points and his outta here

what planet are u from of course a punch can break your ribs
and stop with the bruce lee is invincible crap

I forgot about the first threads twin....

Putting Bruce lee in a boxing match against any proffessional boxer would be absurd, he is not a boxer. That is common sense. However in a no rules barred affair, this little man would do far better against Ali than many boxing fans here might imagine. it is difficult for me to invision a scenario in which Ali would have been triumphant. Oh and for the person that said that ray Leonard was as fast as Bruce Lee, here is a clip of a speed demonstration by bruce Lee. Note it is a kick, which takes far more time than a punch to be thrown. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-685295397376784951&q=bruce+Lee++kicking&hl=en

Bruce Lee, here is a clip of a speed demonstration by bruce Lee. Note it is a kick, which takes far more time than a punch to be thrown. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...+kicking&hl=en

See waht I mean, that wasn't even a real fight. He gets little men to stand still in front of him whilst he "performs" camera pretty moves. Thats not fighting. Ray Robinsons combinations were just as fast but twice as deadly.

I Said that it was a speed demonstration not a fight. Ray Robinson could certainly Jab that quickly but that was A KICK which is far slower than even boxing's slowest punch, a hook. The fights of which Lee was a part (roof top no holds barred brawls in Hong Kong between young Kung Fu students) are not the type that got placed into an arena and taped in the 1950's, Now you will respond "then there is no proof in the form of real fighting footage from him". That is true. But then boxing is a sport. The most lethal (and most real) fights in the world are never caught on film, but sports are, only by virtue of the very fact that they are sports. We have covered speed. As for power, well we have living witnesses. Bolo Yeung who weighed well over 200 pounds had his eyes roll in the back of his head from the power of a flying side kick from lee while holding a focus pad. Living Witnesses also tell of lee being able to destroy a 150 pound heavy bag with a single side kick. Should we not believe the accounts given of fighters like Jack Johnson and jim Jeffries because the knowledge is mostly hearsay. The footage we have of them is actually not sufficient to prove anything. Oh and, you weren't seriously contending that ray Robinson could beat bruce Lee in a no rules match were you?

I Said that it was a speed demonstration not a fight. Ray Robinson could certainly Jab that quickly but that was A KICK which is far slower than even boxing's slowest punch, a hook. The fights of which Lee was a part (roof top no holds barred brawls in Hong Kong between young Kung Fu students) are not the type that got placed into an arena and taped in the 1950's, Now you will respond "then there is no proof in the form of real fighting footage from him". That is true. But then boxing is a sport. The most lethal (and most real) fights in the world are never caught on film, but sports are, only by virtue of the very fact that they are sports. We have covered speed. As for power, well we have living witnesses. Bolo Yeung who weighed well over 200 pounds had his eyes roll in the back of his head from the power of a flying side kick from lee while holding a focus pad. Living Witnesses also tell of lee being able to destroy a 150 pound heavy bag with a single side kick. Should we not believe the accounts given of fighters like Jack Johnson and jim Jeffries because the knowledge is mostly hearsay. The footage we have of them is actually not sufficient to prove anything. Oh and, you weren't seriously contending that ray Robinson could beat bruce Lee in a no rules match were you?


Same old same old. Nothing you have mentioned there comes as new to me. Heard it all before and responded to it before. I've heard nothing impressive about what Lee has "apperently" done. I've seen more proving evidence of far more impressive stuff in my time and the endless alts of Lee accounts posting the same shit over and over again aren't going to convince me of anything other than how enthralled they are with the Lee myth, and that what it is a myth.
Rumour's of what 1 person has seen Lee do is spread around and is exagerated by others until it becomes out of all proportion. Things that weren't based on any actual evidence suddenly become fact because of heavy rumour spreading.

As long as these alts with 1 or 2 posts keep showing up these Lee debates aren't going to be settled. It's hard to argue with simple minded people who can't decide between myth and fact or decide there signifcance in an argument.

Friend you have simply responded with rhetoric and with personal atacks against the advocates of this position, you have offered no substance. Do you disregard the accounts of the acts of jack Johnson and Jim Jeffries related by non living wittnesses? I am sure if this was another discussion you would not. I speak to you of LIVING WITNESSES, you can go to Wikipedia (and elsewhere) and read the list of the names of the people that describe their experiences with him, they are for the most part all still alive. You falsely speak of third hand stories when we have a host of living wittnesses that knew him personally, and that list even includes established Holywood actors like John Saxon and james Coburn, and athletes like Kareem abdul jabar. Friend Boxing is only a sport, a controlled sport with a little man standing in the middle dictating everything. I am talking about no holds barred combat, Ali wasn't ready for anything like that. It would be just as unfair to put him in that situation as it would be to put Bruce Lee in the boxing ring. I believe that it is you that are turning your man into a myth by supposing that he could thrive in a fighting enviornment that he was hardly suited for. Bruce Lee himself would probably be defeated by a modern grappler because he did not have the training to survive that kind of fight. Human beings have limitations,even your favorite ones, just deal with it.

About Bruce Lee

* Chuck Norris
o "Lee, pound for pound, might well have been one of the strongest men in the world, and certainly one of the quickest."
* Doug Palmer
o "Bruce was like the Michael Jordan or Muhammad Ali in his prime, somebody who stood above everyone else. It's not that the other martial artists weren't good. It's just that this guy was great."
* Herb Jackson
o "The biggest problem in designing equipment for Bruce was that he'd go through it so damn fast. I had to reinforce his wooden dummy with automobile parts so he could train on it without breaking it. I had started to build him a mobile dummy that could actually attack and retreat to better simulate "live" combat, sadly Bruce died before the machine was built. It would have been strung up by big high-tension cables that I was going to connect between two posts, one on either side of his backyard. The reason for the machine was simply because no one could stand up to his full force punches and kicks, Bruce's strength and skill had evolved to a point where he had to fight machines."
o "He never trained in a gym, he thought he could concentrate better at home, so he worked out on his patio. He had a small weight set, something like a standard 100lb cast-iron set. In addition, he had a 310lb Olympic barbell set, a bench press and some dumbbells, both solid and adjustable."
o "Bruce used to beat all other comers at this type of wrist wrestling and even joked that he wanted to be world champion at it."
* James Coburn
o "Bruce and I were training out on my patio one day, we were using this giant bag for side kicks, I guess it weighed about 150lbs. Bruce looked at it and just went Bang, it shot up out into the lawn about 15ft in the air, it then busted in the middle. It was filled with little bits and pieces of rag, we were picking up bits of rag for months."
* Jesse Glover
o "When he could do push ups on his thumbs and push ups with 250lbs on his back, he moved on to other exercises."
o "The power that Lee was capable of instantly generating was absolutely frightening to his fellow martial artists, especially his sparring partners, and his speed was equally intimidating. We timed him with an electric timer once, and Bruce's quickest movements were around five hundredths of a second, his slowest were around eight hundredths. This was punching from a relaxed position with his hands down at his sides from a distance between 18-24 inches. Not only was he amazingly quick, but he could read you too. He could pick up on small subtle things that you were getting ready to do and then he'd just shut you down."
o "Bruce was gravitating more and more toward weight training as he would use the weighted wall pulleys and do series upon series with them. He'd also grab one of the old rusty barbells that littered the floor at the YMCA and would roll it up and down his forearms, which is no small feat when you consider that the barbell weighed 70lbs."
* Jim Kelly
o "Bruce, well I can basically say this. I have been around a lot of great martial arts fighters. Worked out with them. Fought them in tournaments. In my opinion Bruce Lee was the greatest martial artist who ever lived. To me thats my opinion. I think Bruce Lee is the greatest martial artist ever. I don't think anybody is in his class."
* Joe Lewis
o "Bruce was incredibly strong for his size. He could take a 75lb barbell and from a standing position with the barbell held flush against his chest, he could slowly stick his arms out, lock them and hold the barbell there for 20 seconds, that's pretty damn tough for a guy who at the time only weighed 138lbs. I know 200lb weight lifters who can't do that."
o " I never stood in front of another human who was as quick as him. He not only had the quickness but he had the inner confidence to muster the conviction to do so. I've seen others who had the speed but lack conviction or vice versa. He was like Ali, he had both. I stood before both of these men, so I know."
o "If Bruce Lee wasn´t the greatest martial artist of all time, then certainly he is the number one candidate." (Source)
* Leo Fong
o "Yes, I was on the receiving end of his side kick. It was like getting hit with a truck."
* Mito Uhera
o "Bruce always felt that if your stomach wasn't developed, then you had no business doing any hard sparring."
* James Rage
o "I think its important for people to realize that he was not only one of history's greatest martial artists, but also one of the finest athletes period. His devotion to physical exercise and healthy lifestyle was mind-boggling."

source: Wikipidea

This thread is very funny. I think Lee would probably faint in fear at the sight of a prime Ali standing next to him, let alone attempting to hit him. Lee was a bloody actor with fancy camera moves and nothing else. He never won a legitimate title in any sport. The top amateurs would dispose of him in seconds let alone he greatest heavyweight of all time

This thread is very funny. I think Lee would probably faint in fear at the sight of a prime Ali standing next to him, let alone attempting to hit him. Lee was a bloody actor with fancy camera moves and nothing else. He never won a legitimate title in any sport. The top amateurs would dispose of him in seconds let alone he greatest heavyweight of all time

Behave big boy! Prove it!

Proving it might be a wee bit difficult considering Lee is dead more than 30 years. To be honest as a child I loved Lee and watched all his films and I too believed he would beat up any person on earth. I suppose it's a bit like Santa Claus, you just grow out of it!!!!!

Behave big boy! Prove it!

I don't think you should have a go at somebody for not proving their theory since you are the biggest offender when it comes to this mr grant.

I suppose it's a bit like Santa Claus, you just grow out of it!!!!!

LMFAO! nice one!

I was going to leave this funny thread alone. I couldn't resist. In fantasy world its an entertaining thought. But the reality is Bruce is human can be hurt just like any other human. Ali isn't going to just stand there arms down chin out like Bruce's Movie apponents and take his shots. Nor would he stay close enough long enough for the "One inch punch" that Lee fans love to boast about. Lee would get hit and a lot. The older the Martial art it seems the less adapt to defending various punching angles. I've seen kung fu artists destroyed with uppercuts and hooks. He's going to get hit with heavy weight power. This I dont think would be a pretty sight. Bruce does have speed. So does Ali. He's one of the most fleetfooted boxers ever. For those who hold that boxing is not a martial art and is less destinguished. Consider this. A boxer is from the begining of his practice taught to defend against and hit a real target at real time. Is encouraged to devise and improvise his style instead of the rigid machine looking form that students practise for years in most martial arts. A young boxer is taught to protect his vital areas. To be mobile and elusive. Throws a punch while on the move. slips counters effortlessly. Bruce Lee. a real fighter or actor It doesnt matter He doesnt have a chance.

I was going to leave this funny thread alone. I couldn't resist. In fantasy world its an entertaining thought. But the reality is Bruce is human can be hurt just like any other human. Ali isn't going to just stand there arms down chin out like Bruce's Movie apponents and take his shots. Nor would he stay close enough long enough for the "One inch punch" that Lee fans love to boast about. Lee would get hit and a lot. The older the Martial art it seems the less adapt to defending various punching angles. I've seen kung fu artists destroyed with uppercuts and hooks. He's going to get hit with heavy weight power. This I dont think would be a pretty sight. Bruce does have speed. So does Ali. He's one of the most fleetfooted boxers ever. For those who hold that boxing is not a martial art and is less destinguished. Consider this. A boxer is from the begining of his practice taught to defend against and hit a real target at real time. Is encouraged to devise and improvise his style instead of the rigid machine looking form that students practise for years in most martial arts. A young boxer is taught to protect his vital areas. To be mobile and elusive. Throws a punch while on the move. slips counters effortlessly. Bruce Lee. a real fighter or actor It doesnt matter He doesnt have a chance.

nice intelligent post by a normal intelligent human being. K

I was going to leave this funny thread alone. I couldn't resist. In fantasy world its an entertaining thought. But the reality is Bruce is human can be hurt just like any other human. Ali isn't going to just stand there arms down chin out like Bruce's Movie apponents and take his shots. Nor would he stay close enough long enough for the "One inch punch" that Lee fans love to boast about. Lee would get hit and a lot. The older the Martial art it seems the less adapt to defending various punching angles. I've seen kung fu artists destroyed with uppercuts and hooks. He's going to get hit with heavy weight power. This I dont think would be a pretty sight. Bruce does have speed. So does Ali. He's one of the most fleetfooted boxers ever. For those who hold that boxing is not a martial art and is less destinguished. Consider this. A boxer is from the begining of his practice taught to defend against and hit a real target at real time. Is encouraged to devise and improvise his style instead of the rigid machine looking form that students practise for years in most martial arts. A young boxer is taught to protect his vital areas. To be mobile and elusive. Throws a punch while on the move. slips counters effortlessly. Bruce Lee. a real fighter or actor It doesnt matter He doesnt have a chance.

He doesnt have a chance against Ali in a boxing match in the ring. Bruce has admitted that in his lifetime. The problem with Bruces honesty is that jealous deluded people then try and take advantage of Bruces honesty and try to take Lees comments out of context. There were probably actually people around who thought Bruce could beat Ali in boxing, so Bruce told it as it was. He commented regarding a proposed boxing exhibition between the 2.
Ali was once asked how he would do in a streetfight with Bruce and he said Bruce Lee would win, but in the ring he'd kill Bruce.

Ali was once asked how he would do in a streetfight with Bruce and he said Bruce Lee would win, but in the ring he'd kill Bruce.

See, now your making stuff up. Prove Ali said that. And there is no one hear jealous of Lee, except maybe you?

I know you dont want to believe what i just said. It sounds terrible for you i am sure. All this time you are trying to defend Ali and i come up with this. It must be like a dagger in the chest.
It is actually something i read from someone on a Mike Tyson forum. The person who said it wasnt a Bruce fan and was defending Tyson against Bruce and they just come up with the comment. The person didnt say where she heard that, and i didnt ask. I am not making stuff up. I dont do that.....it is not my style.

He doesnt have a chance against Ali in a boxing match in the ring. Bruce has admitted that in his lifetime. The problem with Bruces honesty is that jealous deluded people then try and take advantage of Bruces honesty and try to take Lees comments out of context. There were probably actually people around who thought Bruce could beat Ali in boxing, so Bruce told it as it was. He commented regarding a proposed boxing exhibition between the 2.
Ali was once asked how he would do in a streetfight with Bruce and he said Bruce Lee would win, but in the ring he'd kill Bruce.

Ah don't be so sure of that Martial artist seem to fail the test of a streetfight scenario often While the overall arsenal of a boxer seems small in comparison to some other martial arts, it is easy to see that one cannot mistake quantity for quality. The longer it takes to decide which technique to use, the slower your response time becomes. It would seem then, from a practical point of view, that a few well-practiced moves would allow a fighter to be fast and effective. Boxers spend most of their time drilling the fundamentals and practicing them in real fighting situations. They develop keen reflexes and an instinct for timing. This ability to react without thinking comes from countless hours of training, and not from memorizing any sort of pre planned moves. The natural, free-style manner of boxing leads to the development of fighting skills that are unparalleled in the martial arts community.

Boxers are well equipped to handle themselves in most self-defense situations. It is very difficult to contend with an opponent that is constantly moving and throwing multiple blows in rapid succession. He hits with precision and power and avoids punches while positioning himself to counter. A boxer has the stamina to continue fighting at a rapid pace long after most well conditioned athletes would have become too exhausted to defend themselves. Not to say exhausting Bruce Lee would be an easy task, yet standing after getting hit by Muhamed Ali with just a couple of well placed shots seems even more difficult to forsee a 130 lb man of any stature accomplishing. I know its difficult for you to imagine. Bruce Lee on screen is invincible right? Kung Fu artists are portrayed as super fighters. And Hollywood has hyped Bruce up tremendously. You should not believe all you see and hear coming from a TV set. Ifact you should question every fake image not backed by real life occurances. I'm sorry street or ring Bruce looses

I know you dont want to believe what i just said. It sounds terrible for you i am sure. All this time you are trying to defend Ali and i come up with this. It must be like a dagger in the chest.
It is actually something i read from someone on a Mike Tyson forum. The person who said it wasnt a Bruce fan and was defending Tyson against Bruce and they just come up with the comment. The person didnt say where she heard that, and i didnt ask. I am not making stuff up. I dont do that.....it is not my style.


Well there you go, got it from a Mike Tyson forum which is full of shit anyway. Ali didn't say it, false infromation that you got from a bad source.

Bruce Lee said he could beat anyone in the world. He said this, with the intention of people hearing. He didnt care if Ali heard. He didnt say that behind peoples backs.
He was honest about not being able to beat Ali in boxing, even though there were probably deluded people people out there who would not agree with that.
Ali hasnt claimed and wouldnt make those claims because he doesnt care if he can beat anyone in the world. It wasnt his goal, He achieved his goals in life. The credit he has as a fighter and the respect he has got he is totally happy about. I wont hesitate to give him the credit for his achievements and so i have heard Bruce Lee didnt hide his admiration of Ali, from what i have heard from people. Although i have never heard Bruce say he admired any fighter.
When Ali found out Bruce studied his footwork, Ali was so happy that someone like Bruce would admire something about him, and it made him so happy, because he considered Bruce Lee a great fighter and respected Bruce very much. He has said that he so wishes he could have met Lee because he loved Bruce Lees style and considered him unique. Again i am not making things up. I read this in a book in a bookshop. I didnt purchase the book, because i dont buy everything regarding Bruce. I admire a lot of people and i am just as likely to purchase an Ali book.

Bruce Lee said he could beat anyone in the world. He said this, with the intention of people hearing. He didnt care if Ali heard. He didnt say that behind peoples backs.
He was honest about not being able to beat Ali in boxing, even though there were probably deluded people people out there who would not agree with that.
Ali hasnt claimed and wouldnt make those claims because he doesnt care if he can beat anyone in the world. It wasnt his goal, He achieved his goals in life. The credit he has as a fighter and the respect he has got he is totally happy about. I wont hesitate to give him the credit for his achievements and so i have heard did Bruce Lee didnt hesitate giving Ali credit.

Once again this doesn't prove anything lol. Anyone can say that they can beat anyone in the world. And many nutters actually believe it when they it.

Bruce Lee said he could beat anyone in the world. He said this, with the intention of people hearing. He didnt care if Ali heard. He didnt say that behind peoples backs.
He was honest about not being able to beat Ali in boxing, even though there were probably deluded people people out there who would not agree with that.
Ali hasnt claimed and wouldnt make those claims because he doesnt care if he can beat anyone in the world. It wasnt his goal, He achieved his goals in life. The credit he has as a fighter and the respect he has got he is totally happy about. I wont hesitate to give him the credit for his achievements and so i have heard did Bruce Lee didnt hesitate giving Ali credit.

So your argument is based on the fact Bruce Lee was self confident? He said he could beat anybody, but did not prove that face except on film. Which is a pretty good venue for anybody to look incredible. I take no credit away from Bruce Lee, He made a good life for himself and family by practicing the marial art he loved I wish I could be so fortunate. He was, however not the charachter he portrayed. To compare that to a man who trained with and faught real human beings trying to take his head off, rather than make him look good is nonsense. This is a matchup of a man who's only existance was to be the warrior he was.( One so good he made claim of being the greatest and nobody dared question that claim which still stands against) against a man who's existance was to make movies. Common look at the big picture.

theres already a thread stickied to the top...???? and dont go on and on with hugh, he will defend brucey lucy to da deafh!! waaatahhh

theres already a thread stickied to the top...???? and dont go on and on with hugh, he will defend brucey lucy to da deafh!! waaatahhh

no it's over with any further point is mute and repetitave. No need to further the discussion.

I tell you what!!!!, surely we all can agree that if it were a boxing match, Lee has next to zero a chance of winning. He gets beat bad and fast.

If it's a street fight then any man has a chance of victory as usually the one who lands the telling shot wins. So it's a definite for the boxing and it's a maybe for any other scenario. Ali therefore wins the debate and I woud still bet on him. Ali was so damn talented I'm sure he could eve throw beautiful kicks as well

Lee is not invincible and in a street fight man V man is never a given
There are plenty of men in the world with no training in any sport who are just
plain handy and tough. Could Lee take a shot like Ali, I say definitely NO!!!