what a joke all he can do is punch, some good body shots and soem boxing skillz and he loses, this guy aint going anywhere unless he waits a while for everyone to retire or get old.

...Yeah, he may be more of a circus act than Valuev. Can't you see Vitali jabbing him to death and just killing him in round 6-7.

...Yeah, he may be more of a circus act than Valuev. Can't you see Vitali jabbing him to death and just killing him in round 6-7.

With his weight of 250 lbs., he's seems to be preparing himself for a future fight with Vitali by meeting the fatass requirement for Vitali's opponents.

I laugh at Wlad's non existence in the "Ring Magazine" top 10 list. I am drinking beer, and eating planters mix.....just choked on my intake.

....You notice that Mesi says that Peter is nowhere near a position to fight either Klit? Says he would basically be overmatched.

where do i go for downloads. I am trying to see cintron vs margarito

Wlad is supposed to be the "weaker" of the Klits, can anyone seriously see this guy even being a threat to Wlad? I'm not even sure he could beat Guinn lol

Yeah Peter's definitely is not read for Vitali. He'd have a puncher's chance against Vlad though Vitali is so damn smart. I actually think Kostya and Vitali are 2 of the hardest and smartest punchers and just because they break you down after they figure you out. Peter's reminds me of Danny Williams. If Peter fought Vitali, he'd just go for the money punch and pray he connects and it can be all over for Vitali. Vitali has never been down(pushed down by Sanders), so we know he has a great chin. If he takes Peter's power and Peter runs out of gas from throwing too many bombs early, it will be easy work for Vitali until it gets stopped in the later half of the fight.

Why is there so much negativity about a guy who's only 24.

Who ever said he was ready to fight Vitali?

Some of you are so eager to cut guys down for no reason.

Let the guy mature a few years before the fangs come out.

I laugh at Wlad's non existence in the "Ring Magazine" top 10 list. I am drinking beer, and eating planters mix.....just choked on my intake.

I also like it how 3 out of 8 idiots at ********** including Leon picked Castillo to KO Wlad, yet when Wlad won he failed to move up in their rankings where he is 13th. I'd really like to see where ring magazine and espn.com have him ranked. The IBF and WBO have him ranked 3rd and 2nd.

.....Greg Leon is the biggest ****in idiot in the world. His mailbag is the most inane crap I have ever laid my eyes on.

He did look very impressive vs Williams and Diaz

but not tonight at all

maybe he's just bad against huggers

I think Ruiz would be his worse weakness but he wont be fighting Ruiz cuz Ruiz will get whooped tommorrow

Why is there so much negativity about a guy who's only 24.

Who ever said he was ready to fight Vitali?

Some of you are so eager to cut guys down for no reason.

Let the guy mature a few years before the fangs come out.

um i believe it was peters who said he was ready for vitali. peters has power and thats about all. if the kid learns some reall skills and loses some wieght he has a future. he needs to be more mobile. i agree that vitall and any of the top tier heavies would keep him at bay with the jab and break him down.

I also like it how 3 out of 8 idiots at ********** including Leon picked Castillo to KO Wlad, yet when Wlad won he failed to move up in their rankings where he is 13th. I'd really like to see where ring magazine and espn.com have him ranked. The IBF and WBO have him ranked 3rd and 2nd.

Yeah. In a related story. "Ring Magazine" sucks. I laughed at the super-middleweight rankings as well. based on simple boxing knowledge IMO, Lacy should be ranked top 3 easily. Like we have discussed in the past, I think nobody can beat him at that weight. Mikkel Kessler has the only shot. And I laughed at his ranking as well. PPPFfff.

He did look very impressive vs Williams

Besides for the KO I didn't see anything to celebrate about.

Sam is only 24 years old as it has been said. So he looked less than impressive. So what? Many greats looked less than impressive against poor opposition early on in their career. Rocky Marciano was one of them. Sam is raw now, but he is learning new things with every fight and time is on his side. Also let's not forget that he WON tonight by a stoppage in the third round. You act as if he had been taken the distance or received a gift decision.

Yeah. In a related story. "Ring Magazine" sucks. I laughed at the super-middleweight rankings as well. based on simple boxing knowledge IMO, Lacy should be ranked top 3 easily. Like we have discussed in the past, I think nobody can beat him at that weight. Mikkel Kessler has the only shot.

Yeah I agree. I don't see how they can have a champion ranked that far back unless his name is Brewster.

Sam is only 24 years old as it has been said. So he looked less than impressive. So what? Many greats looked less than impressive against poor opposition early on in their career. Rocky Marciano was one of them. Sam is raw now, but he is learning new things with every fight and time is on his side. Also let's not forget that he WON tonight by a stoppage in the third round. You act as if he had been taken the distance or received a gift decision.

I agree, but I also think he needs to loose 10 lbs. at the least.

I agree with you. I have always said that Sam needs to lose some weight. 250 is just too soft for the guy. He needs stamina for his style, and a lot of it. I'd like for him to slowly lower his weight down to 230 or so. He should never be higher than 240.

He is only 24, but.....How fat is he going to be in 2 or 3 years after he gets a decent payday against some overhyped tomato can? Todays fighters, especially the heavys don't realize that when their trainer says that they need to be hungry, it means in the ring, not the deli. This fat ass gets a fight on tv where he can showcase what he has and impress people, so what does he do? Come in at 250. Un****ingbelievable.

He is only 24, but.....How fat is he going to be in 2 or 3 years after he gets a decent payday against some overhyped tomato can? Todays fighters, especially the heavys don't realize that when their trainer says that they need to be hungry, it means in the ring, not the deli. This fat ass gets a fight on tv where he can showcase what he has and impress people, so what does he do? Come in at 250. Un****ingbelievable.
Good point!

Sam is only 24 years old as it has been said. So he looked less than impressive. So what? Many greats looked less than impressive against poor opposition early on in their career. Rocky Marciano was one of them. Sam is raw now, but he is learning new things with every fight and time is on his side. Also let's not forget that he WON tonight by a stoppage in the third round. You act as if he had been taken the distance or received a gift decision.
The biggest difference between young Marciano and young Peter is dedication to their sport, and conditioning. Marciano never showed up to a fight with a round, cherubic face and a 40" waistline. Sure, Peter's a stout kid, but he's also a fat kid. I think he needs to lose alot more than 10 pounds...more like 20 to 25. It's easy to see that the kid has some natural talent, and great power, but I'll never be a fan until he gets his fat, lazy ass into the gym and gets himself prepared to go a minimum of 10 rounds at a decent work rate. In his present condition, I don't see him lasting more than 5 or 6 rounds against anyone in the top 10. And I agree with Mesi. Either one of the Klitchko's would lay waste to Peter right now. On the other hand, a well conditioned Peter, with another half dozen fights under his belt, could prove serious and legitimate competition for either.

Also...he's only 24 years old, and already looks like he does....what's he going to look like in another 5 years, if he doesn't seriously reconsider his training routines? ROADWORK, Peter, you lazy *****...roadwork.

He is only 24, but.....How fat is he going to be in 2 or 3 years after he gets a decent payday against some overhyped tomato can? Todays fighters, especially the heavys don't realize that when their trainer says that they need to be hungry, it means in the ring, not the deli. This fat ass gets a fight on tv where he can showcase what he has and impress people, so what does he do? Come in at 250. Un****ingbelievable.


That's a great post, buddy...I wish I'd read it before I added my thoughts to this thread a few minutes ago :D

Peter looked a bit more impressive in his victory against Diaz than last night. This guy Martinez is a joke, how dare they parade this fat tub in the ring. Peter should be ashamed that he even accepted fighting this waste of space. I think at this stage if Peter fought either Calvin Brock or Leo Nolan, that Peter would have a very difficult time. Peter has way too many flaws in his repetoire. His power will bail him out and make him look indestructable but he will be exposed eventually. He gets in with a guy like Tua or Tyson I think either one of them knocks Peter out.

I've only seen three Peter fights.

Each fight I thought he looked exactly like a heavyy-footed version of Trevor Berbick.

Not that I have anything against Sam Peter but did anyone else notice that he seemed to be gasping for air in the interview after the fight, when he was holding his daughter? I agree that he needs to lose some weight.

I saw his fight yesterday and just like somebody else said, he has way too many flaws. No jab whatsoever, smoother his punches a lot, does not have much defense and his stamina is questionable. Did he have any amatuer career? Because some of the mistakes that he deed are usually a preregotive of people with little to none amateur experience.
But, he is young, he has a lot to learn and a lot of weight to drop. If he learns to use his jab, be more accurate and economical with his punches and learn to pace himself he might be the force.

what a joke all he can do is punch, some good body shots and soem boxing skillz and he loses, this guy aint going anywhere unless he waits a while for everyone to retire or get old.

I think that if he gets better technically and they bring him along slowly he can be champ in the future.

did u guys see hwo hard he was breathing i thought he would die from trying to sue air to talk. 250 ro 240 pounds he is gonan be a shot round fighter. some punches to the body and he is done

Although I do not feel like Peter is the best boxer in the world. I have to say that he is not doing too bad ...... and keep in mind he is STILL in his 20s. That is very young for a heavyweight. He still has 10 to 15 years to prove himself.

The reason that he did not look as good last night was because he was facing an awkward lefty. Even though he looked as bad as one can look winning the first two rounds and getting a 3rd round TKO, he did do some things right.

He can punch and has some athletic ability, but dare I say that he is a heavyweight version of Kermit Cintron?

Sam Peter is definitely raw, but calling him a joke is going a little too far.

Positives:
Power in both hands
Ring awareness

Negatives:
Poor levels of opposition
Weak jab
Carries a little too much weight
Poor overall skillset

I know he said after the fight that he was ready for anyone, but that's normal for any young up and comer to say.

Honestly, I think it's possible that he could take Wlad. His straightforward style and pure, raw power are the deadly combination that Wlad cannot take. We have seen that against both Sanders and Brewster. I would put Peter closer to being a Brewster than a Sanders. We would have to see him against someone who can actually pop him a good lick or two before we could really determine if he can take a punch or not.
The straight ahead style would force Wlad to throw more punches than he wanted to in order to keep Peter off him. Castillo didn't prove that Wlad has improved upon his stamina, so that could still be a problem.

I wouldn't bet money on either of them in a fight against each other until I see more from both of them.

I wouldn't give Peter anything more than a puncher's chance against Vitali, and if the fight went more than 4 rounds, Vitali would end the poor boy's career.

Peter does add some excitement to the division with his power. I hope that they don't push him too fast to get asses in seats. I would like to see whether or not he can develop into more than a raw puncher.

Why is there so much negativity about a guy who's only 24.

Who ever said he was ready to fight Vitali?

Some of you are so eager to cut guys down for no reason.

Let the guy mature a few years before the fangs come out.

I can understand why any Klitschko fan would be eager to cut him down...in the future he poses a decent threat to both of them and some of the fans must realize this. No, he's not ready for them yet..but like you pointed out, hes only 24.

I can understand why any Klitschko fan would be eager to cut him down...in the future he poses a decent threat to both of them and some of the fans must realize this. No, he's not ready for them yet..but like you pointed out, hes only 24.
Possible future threat. If the guy doesn't get serious about his conditioning, he'll never pose more than barely a minimal threat through the first couple of rounds.

Also...I'm a Klitchko fan myself, but I'm certainly not eager to belittle the kid. In fact, I think it sucks that he's in such poor overall shape when he has great potential. And if he doesn't get off his fat ass and change that, 10 years from now, he'll be far more disappointed in himself than any of us will be.

Possible future threat. If the guy doesn't get serious about his conditioning, he'll never pose more than barely a minimal threat through the first couple of rounds.

Also...I'm a Klitchko fan myself, but I'm certainly not eager to belittle the kid. In fact, I think it sucks that he's in such poor overall shape when he has great potential. And if he doesn't get off his fat ass and change that, 10 years from now, he'll be far more disappointed in himself than any of us will be.

Exactly! He needs to do his roadwork..slim down a bit, and improve his technique before facing Klitschko.

Remember the guy is young. He gots power, goes to the body, and has a chin. I could see him as champ in a few years.

But, he does look like he may have weight problems in the near future. I think once this kid gets a little lazy, his career will be ruined.

Can anyone give a comparison on how Tua and Ike where at this stage of their careers?

Remember the guy is young. He gots power, goes to the body, and has a chin. I could see him as champ in a few years.

But, he does look like he may have weight problems in the near future. I think once this kid gets a little lazy, his career will be ruined.

Can anyone give a comparison on how Tua and Ike where at this stage of their careers?

I agree with this, but I don't understand why you as well as many other people claim that he has a chin, when it has never been tested yet. In Tua's 23rd fight he KO'd Ruiz, then 3 fights later he went on to fight Izon, Maskaev, and Ibeabuchi in that order. Ike fought Byrd in his 20th fight and Tua in his 17th.

how does he have a chin? who has really tested it? willams? diaz? shufford? lets wait till someoen who can punch before he say he has a chin

I hope Sam is not fighting demons that are coming out of his conditioner.

Ike also fought Tim Ray (10-9-2) and Everton Davis (13-10-1) in between Tua and Byrd so it's not as if the guy suddenly jumped up in competition and stayed there.

the state of the heavyweight div. is pretty weak the best skilled heavy is toney and he is not a true heavy byrd is second if we base it on boxing skills and defense . so everybody says all peter has is power well i agree but he has alot of it and looking at the heavyweight landscape power just might get it done for him .also he has a lot of room for improvement he is only 24..

I didn't see the fight but read he KO'd this guy in round three, How does that make him a joke, does he have to KO everyone in round 1?

by the way does anyone know when or if they will repay this fight

I think he is good I would like to see him in there with someone who can bang a little, like Golata, Bowe, any one of the Kitchkovs but I think they might be to much for him right now..but a Golata, Bowe, Rahman, Brewster, Oquendo, Tua that would be an interesting fight.

He does have impressive power, but a goodtechnical boxer would beat him. He does have the best punchers chance since Tua!

All you need to be able to do is punch in this sad division. He's young and can develope the skills to dominate... until somebody truely talented comes along. Not Toney.

Peter's is not the next great heavy... but he almost killed Jeremy Williams (not saying alot either).

Sure its been said, but Peter is just too damn fat. Guess he'll be raping and other crazy **** within a year, locked up undefeated and with an early KO win over Chris Byrd.

by the way does anyone know when or if they will repay this fight

Dont worry about it..you know I'll take care of you on that ;)

Peter's is not the next great heavy... but he almost killed Jeremy Williams (not saying alot either).
that is not hard to do because williams has a glass chin, half chin/half idiot as someone pointed out a while back :D

Sam Peter's is the next champ, just a matter of time.

that is not hard to do because williams has a glass chin, half chin/half idiot as someone pointed out a while back :D


Hey, is that the Meat-head from All In The Family in that picture???

Sam Peter is a ****in joke and a bum!!!

i'd like to see peter step up in competition a little bit... his promoter has been calling out toney and others, but they haven't put him in with anyone yet... not to mention i remember them turning down a fight with Gomez on HBO(before gomez lost)... it'll be interesting to see how peter does a against a durable guy who can box(donald? mo harris? byrd? barrett?)

...Yeah, he may be more of a circus act than Valuev. Can't you see Vitali jabbing him to death and just killing him in round 6-7.

Circus Freaks

George the animal Steele
http://www.georgesteele.com/animal/george-large.jpg
Nicolay Valuev
http://www.*********.com/1photos/valuev1.jpg


If boxing does not work out for Valuev I think he has a bright career in pro wrestling. Maybe he can be an all time great like George the animal Steele, (who played Tor Johanson in "Ed Wood") Hillarious movie

Sam Peter vs Valuev would actually be an awesome fight IMO. But anybody that thinks either Valuev or Sam Peter are going to go up and clean out the heavyweight division need their head checked out.

Valuev is in the wrong sport he could be the biggest thing in wrestling since Andre the Giant and he is Russian so that makes him all the more menacing.

Sam Peter is the truth, he's the next big thing

Sam Peter is the truth, he's the next big thing

Toney would pick Sam Peter apart so bad, Peter would probably have nightmares about Toney for the rest of his life. Sam Peter is so slow, so is Valuev, they would get eaten alive by Toney or Klistchko V.

and Carl Williams is the truth, Carl "the truth" Williams not Sam Peter.