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JAB5239
01-07-2010, 12:32 AM
First off let me apologize for putting this in the history section. I haven't seen Locche fight and am looking from some solid input from people who know what they're talking about.

How would a fight between one of the best defensive fighters, Locche, and one of the most relentless offensive fighters, Pryor, go?

DonTaseMeBrah
01-07-2010, 02:10 AM
great stylistic match up. shoulder roll should/ philly shell defense should really be called italian shell defense in honor of locche. People think mayweather & hopkins started that whole shoulder roll defense but that's been around for a long time.

pryor would probably outowork him for a points decisions imo.

Calilloyd
01-07-2010, 02:25 AM
great stylistic match up. shoulder roll should/ philly shell defense should really be called italian shell defense in honor of locche. People think mayweather & hopkins started that whole shoulder roll defense but that's been around for a long time.

pryor would probably outowork him for a points decisions imo.

I honestly haven't seen anybody who ever said Mayweather or Hopkins invented it. James Toney uses it but he himself said he got it from watching old boxing tapes.

Calilloyd
01-07-2010, 02:27 AM
First off let me apologize for putting this in the history section. I haven't seen Locche fight and am looking from some solid input from people who know what they're talking about.

How would a fight between one of the best defensive fighters, Locche, and one of the most relentless offensive fighters, Pryor, go?

Locche had a great defense but from what I've seen he wasn't offensive enough for Pryor. He would probably lose a decision.

JAB5239
01-07-2010, 02:31 AM
I honestly haven't seen anybody who ever said Mayweather or Hopkins invented it. James Toney uses it but he himself said he got it from watching old boxing tapes.

Most of us know its been around for a long time, but to many Floyd fans its a Mayweather original. That not an insult to Floyd but to make a point about some of his younger and biased fans.

JAB5239
01-07-2010, 02:34 AM
great stylistic match up. shoulder roll should/ philly shell defense should really be called italian shell defense in honor of locche. People think mayweather & hopkins started that whole shoulder roll defense but that's been around for a long time.

pryor would probably outowork him for a points decisions imo.

Locche had a great defense but from what I've seen he wasn't offensive enough for Pryor. He would probably lose a decision.

Like I said, I haven't actually watched a Locche fight yet. But its my opinion that if you couldn't keep Pryor off you with some pop, you were probably in trouble. Than again I think Sweet Pea beats Pryor, but thats just my opinion.

Calilloyd
01-07-2010, 02:36 AM
Like I said, I haven't actually watched a Locche fight yet. But its my opinion that if you couldn't keep Pryor off you with some pop, you were probably in trouble. Than again I think Sweet Pea beats Pryor, but thats just my opinion.

If you want to see incredible defense, watching Locche is a must.

JAB5239
01-07-2010, 02:40 AM
If you want to see incredible defense, watching Locche is a must.

How would you compare his D to that of Pep, Whitaker and Benitez? I know he was great, but who does he most closely resemble if any of them?

Calilloyd
01-07-2010, 02:54 AM
How would you compare his D to that of Pep, Whitaker and Benitez? I know he was great, but who does he most closely resemble if any of them?

I know this is crazy but I saw a combination of all of them. He used the shoulder rolls like Floyd but also fought off the ropes and could really make fighters miss in close range like Benitez and Whitaker.. He would drop his hands a lot and make fighters miss like Pep. Just a phenomenal defensive fighter. He could do it all on defense. Only difference was that he wasn't as offensive minded as those four.

JAB5239
01-07-2010, 02:57 AM
I know this is crazy but I saw a combination of all of them. He used the shoulder rolls like Floyd but also fought off the ropes and could really make fighters miss in close range like Benitez and Whitaker.. He would drop his hands a lot and make fighters miss like Pep. Just a phenomenal defensive fighter. He could do it all on defense. Only difference was that he wasn't as offensive minded as those four.

Im gonna see what I can dig up on youtube. Thanks for the info my man!

sonnyboyx2
01-07-2010, 11:00 AM
i have around 7 or 8 Locche fights and around 15 or so Aaron Pryor fights..... IMO Locche would win a 15UD he is all wrong style-wise for Pryor as Pryor was best when fighting on his toes throwing lots of punches, against Locche Pryor would not have to be on his toes as Locche would be standing right in front of him making him miss and scoring on the counter

sonnyboyx2
01-07-2010, 11:07 AM
I know this is crazy but I saw a combination of all of them. He used the shoulder rolls like Floyd but also fought off the ropes and could really make fighters miss in close range like Benitez and Whitaker.. He would drop his hands a lot and make fighters miss like Pep. Just a phenomenal defensive fighter. He could do it all on defense. Only difference was that he wasn't as offensive minded as those four.

Nicolino Locche "THE UNTOUCHABLE" WAS ONE OF THE GREATEST DEFENSIVE MASTERS OF ALL TIMES..far better than Floyd, Whitaker or Benitez.. i agree he was not offensive as those fighters but he never needed to be, ringcraft, ring-savvy, ring-smarts along with his defence made it a master-class

TheGreatA
01-07-2010, 11:13 AM
The only question to me is whether Pryor could outwork Locche because skill-wise I believe Locche is levels above. The young pre-title Locche seemed to be far more mobile on his feet and in better condition, although he never truly had stamina problems even in his later days despite his bad training habits.

I'd take Locche at his peak to score a decision win over Pryor, making him miss and countering with clean punches, but Pryor could very well outwork Locche also.

Calilloyd
01-07-2010, 04:38 PM
Nicolino Locche "THE UNTOUCHABLE" WAS ONE OF THE GREATEST DEFENSIVE MASTERS OF ALL TIMES..far better than Floyd, Whitaker or Benitez.. i agree he was not offensive as those fighters but he never needed to be, ringcraft, ring-savvy, ring-smarts along with his defence made it a master-class

I don't agree with that. Nobody can be "far better" than those three. If you think he was better that's fine but your exaggerating is disrespectful to those fighters talents.

DeepSleep
01-08-2010, 12:44 AM
I think Locche could make Pryor miss and counter effectively quite well but he would simply get out-worked as the fight when on. Still I don't think Pryor would be able to hurt Locche. I'd picture this fight to be a similar to the recent P.Will vs. Sergio Martinez fight.

One more round
01-08-2010, 12:53 AM
I think Locche takes a close win based on good defence and accurate counters.

sonnyboyx2
01-08-2010, 11:08 AM
I don't agree with that. Nobody can be "far better" than those three. If you think he was better that's fine but your exaggerating is disrespectful to those fighters talents.

what fights have you seen in full of Locche?