Who is the best welterweight in the world in your opinion

If your choice is other than state in the post.

Until Margorito, DLH, or Mosley beat him, its Zab.

What about Spinx or Mayorga???

Until Margorito, DLH, or Mosley beat him, its Zab.
agreed but I think Margarito might have a good chance against him

Zab & Margarito are equals for me as of now....

agreed but I think Margarito might have a good chance against him

To me, Margarito is the best at 147. Zab is undisputed champ but he has only faced Spinks, who was the perfect opponent for Zab. I think that Judah still has to prove that he belongs there. Margarito has been kicking some ass for years plus his demolition of Cintrón made him look even more dominant.

Margarito imo. Zab is the only other acceptable choice from the list too in my opinion.

Spinx or Mayorga would wupp the **** out of Shane mosely.

To me, Margarito is the best at 147. Zab is undisputed champ but he has only faced Spinks, who was the perfect opponent for Zab. I think that Judah still has to prove that he belongs there. Margarito has been kicking some ass for years plus his demolition of Cintrón made him look even more dominant.

That is why I made this post, because I agree with your statement that yeah, Zab is undisputed champ but he inherited the title from Cory Spinx. I dont think Cory Spinx is in anybodies book a world beater. There was another topic who is the worst champion ever, and the poll was between Ruiz and Frank Bruno, Spinx maybe might not be as bad a Ruiz but as far as undisputed champs in history go...........I dont know its amazing that guy was able unify the belts.

I voted for De La Hoya, I think when he comes back to welterweight he will kick ass, I think it is between him and Margarito to see who is the true best welterweight in the world.

Spinx or Mayorga would wupp the **** out of Shane mosely.

Thats fine man, sorry I did put them on the poll, but thanx for responding, I said if your choice is other than list it in the forum and you did. Thats cool Mayorga is a big puncher has a punchers chance against anybody. As for Spinks maybe he and mitchell are at the same level but IMO Spinx is not on the level of De La Hoya or Margarito.

McKay's welterweight Rankings

#1 Oscar De La Hoya (ridiculous as it is since has not fought at welter in years.

#2 Antonio Margarito

#3 Zab Judah ( I dont care if he is undisputed champ, I accept your criticism ahead of time)

#4 Shane Mosely

spinks mayorga are now 154

where's kostya?

where's kostya?

Kostya is a Lt welterweight 140 pounds. When Judah and Kostya fought it was at 140 pds Lt Welterweight. After Judah lost to Kostantine he went up to welterweight. Konstatine was undisputed champion at Light Welterweight but he vacated all the belts except the IBF to fight Sharamba again. Konstaine has fought at 140 Lt welterweight his entire career.

spinks mayorga are now 154

I did not know that Spinx and Mayorga went up to 154, thanks for the info.

soon as oscar makes his offical return and looks dominant as ever
hell be second
but antonio would still have to be the number welter

Kostya is a Lt welterweight 140 pounds. When Judah and Kostya fought it was at 140 pds Lt Welterweight. After Judah lost to Kostantine he went up to welterweight. Konstatine was undisputed champion at Light Welterweight but he vacated all the belts except the IBF to fight Sharamba again. Konstaine has fought at 140 Lt welterweight his entire career.

Jr welterweight and welterweight are the best divisions in boxing right now. You got Arturro gatti at 140 Kostatine Tzyu at 140 Miguell Cotto at 140 chop chop Corley at 140 Hatton at 140 Floyd Mayweather Jr at 140 Judah at 147 De La Hoya at 147 Mosely at 147 Sharamba Mitchell at 147 Margarito at 147 and alot of other good fighters.
it has always been the best division for so many years now. but on the P4P listing, we have 4 fighters from the featherweight division

IMO, this is a silly question.

Judah has all 3 major titles, and is undeniably the undisputed Welterweight Champion.

If it was a case like 130 or 126 where the titles are scattered, this may be a viable question.

Judah is the man who beat the man who beat the man and so on.

He's undisputed at 147, and is on top of the division until he's beaten or stripped.

IMO, this is a silly question.
If it was a case like 130 or 126 where the titles are scattered, this may be a viable question.
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this is the reason why the featherweight division is the best today. everyone is ganging up on everyone.

IMO, this is a silly question.

Judah has all 3 major titles, and is undeniably the undisputed Welterweight Champion.

If it was a case like 130 or 126 where the titles are scattered, this may be a viable question.

Judah is the man who beat the man who beat the man and so on.

He's undisputed at 147, and is on top of the division until he's beaten or stripped.

Spinks was not neccessarily linear champion, he got the WBA title in an eliminator and the other 2 from winning a split descision over Ricardo Mayorga.
Mayorga got the titles from Vernon Forest the IBF and WBC and Forest got the IBF title in an eliminator and got the WBC from beating Shane Mosely. So the WBC belt is the only linear belt really at welterweight. (for what its worth)

I voted Zab. Just for now, anyway. Gotta give him credit, though I am NOT a fan.
I don't think his reign will be long, though. Anyone of the guys on the list (bar Mitchell) would trouble him.

I think Zab is the best welter right now. Antonio a close 2nd. But i'd pick Mosley over any one of them when/if they fight.

I'm hoping Mosley will return to his old ways in his return to Welterweight, if he does he'll be the man again.

Margarito is the best welterweight right now, not to take anything from Zab, but Zab was overmatched for Spinks. Anyway, Zab won't have those belts much longer.

Super Judah

Thats fine man, sorry I did put them on the poll, but thanx for responding, I said if your choice is other than list it in the forum and you did. Thats cool Mayorga is a big puncher has a punchers chance against anybody. As for Spinks maybe he and mitchell are at the same level but IMO Spinx is not on the level of De La Hoya or Margarito.

McKay's welterweight Rankings

#1 Oscar De La Hoya (ridiculous as it is since has not fought at welter in years.

#2 Antonio Margarito

#3 Zab Judah ( I dont care if he is undisputed champ, I accept your criticism ahead of time)

#4 Shane Mosely

Thats funny, Mayorga having a punchers chance.. Mayo would whip the **** out of Judah or Margarito. Oscar hasn't fought welter in ages... Shane Mosley is gonna meet the same fate as Vernonn against Mayorga. Plainly put, at 147 Mayorga was the man.

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Both De La Hoya & Margorito would Knock Judah out!

Zab's the man until proven otherwise...

Margarito is a close 2nd, let's see him beat a proven commodity though

Oscar could regain the glory by fighting Zab in September

Mosley was great at 135 but average at 147, I was a big fan but he got too much pub too quickly, and is no match for guys taller and stronger than he is

give mosley a few fights under his belt and ill go with him

right now zab is # 1 just because he is the undisputed champ he beat spinks which is not at the top of my list maragarito is # 2 he just destroyed cintron . if this fight were to happen i think margarito wins zab is allready talking about how maragarito is nothing .zab's biggest problem is his cokiness that is why tsyzu laid him on his ass . if he thinks he can overpower maragarito like he did spinks he will get koed margarito is always in great shape and ready to go 12 hard rounds i don't think zab is ready for that

from this list, either margarito or judah, i wouldn't put spinks up there tho, he's overrated IMO. mayorga going to 154 so he wont be up there

Regardless of belts, it must be Margarito...

Regardless of belts, it must be Margarito...
I agree....

Judah is the undisputed champ and deserves respect for finally coming in the ring and showing his true potential.

as far as matchups go, I think Margarito would be a tough fight for anyone. I think Judah will go for big money fights after his next one. I wouldn't be surprised if DLH or Mosley fight him next. I think Marg will have to wait awhile for his "big" fight.

1.Judah
2.Margarito
3.Mosley
4.DLH

antonio margarito

i dont know what judah has to do to prove to people he is the best welter, he beat a legit top ten p4p guy in spinks.

margarito beat an umproved guy in cintron and people think he is the divisions best :confused:

dlh aint been at 147 in a while and lost his last fight, i dont know he could possibly be considered best

Regardless of belts, it must be Margarito...
how can he fare against ODLH?

how can he fare against ODLH?

I think that he killz DLH at 147 right now...I even doubt that DLH can make 147..

There is no way Margarito deserves the ranking above Judah right now.

That's non sense.

Judah has all the titles, and there's no ignoring that or looking past it.

He's got the 3 major titles, he's the #1 Welterweight until he loses them or is stripped.

Chek the title of the thread..."Regardless of belts"..

Zab is hands down

I think Mosley is the best welterweight, because he can beat everyone at 147 IMO. Judah is a pimp..and the next best fighter in that division, but would get crushed by Shane if they fought. Shane on a bad day....can beat everyone at that weight.

I guess I am in the severe minority, because I voted for Shane.

Edited.

I personally think Margarito is the best at 147(cause Oscars weight is up in the air right now, but if he was 147 for sure i got him slightly ahead of Margarito), and since both Margarito and Zab are saying they want Oscar.........now I know this might not make alot of sense to some people cause Oscar isnt a champ, but they should fight each other and the winner gets Oscar, cause I dont think Oscar will fight the both of them. And Mosley, he might be able to compete against Zab but I dont think he could beat Oscar(the last fight dont count, Oscar won)or Margarito.
1.De la Hoya(if hes 147 for sure)
2.Margarito
3.Zab
4.Mosley

last time I checked....

DLH was number 1...
Mosley beat DLH
Forrest beat Mosley
Mayorga beat Forrest
Spinks beat Mayorga
Judah beat Spinks

Judah is the linear and true champ...why is it even a question?

DLH based on his past history in this weight class.

dlh cant even be considered number 1 becuase he hasnt even came down to 147 yet....its between judah and margarito

Chek the title of the thread..."Regardless of belts"..
hehe, great answer... i would rather pick margarito over judah ;)

I think Judah needs to fight Margarito if he wants the recognition of many as the best at 147.

Delahoya isn't going back down to welterweight in my opinion. He doesn't want to work that hard anymore to me.

Judah beats everyone who is at 147 right now.

To me, Margarito is the best at 147. Zab is undisputed champ but he has only faced Spinks, who was the perfect opponent for Zab. I think that Judah still has to prove that he belongs there. Margarito has been kicking some ass for years plus his demolition of Cintrón made him look even more dominant.


so let me get this straight. you think margarito who has 3 good wins in his whole career (lewis, cintron, and diaz) deserves to be recognized over zab who just beat spinks who i smuch better than any of them. btw im being generous calling cintron good since he never really beat anyone to prove it besides teddy reid who he struggled with.

Spinks was always overrated so Judah's loss to him says more about Judah than his victory does.
Margarito brotha...

Spinks was always overrated so Judah's loss to him says more about Judah than his victory does.
Margarito brotha...

oh spinks was overrated and let me guess you decided that the night judah beat him. and btw judah clearly beat him in the first fight and then he knocked the ***** out in the rematch. also are you saying that cintron is better than spinks? cause if you are you will get laughed at badly.

mosley the best right now easy.. he too srong for zab ..zab a natural 140 ...margarito vs mosley would be good ...if oscar some way in hell could make 147 he would be the best oscar beat mosely in that 2nd fight

Thats fine man, sorry I did put them on the poll, but thanx for responding, I said if your choice is other than list it in the forum and you did. Thats cool Mayorga is a big puncher has a punchers chance against anybody. As for Spinks maybe he and mitchell are at the same level but IMO Spinx is not on the level of De La Hoya or Margarito.

McKay's welterweight Rankings

#1 Oscar De La Hoya (ridiculous as it is since has not fought at welter in years.

#2 Antonio Margarito

#3 Zab Judah ( I dont care if he is undisputed champ, I accept your criticism ahead of time)

#4 Shane Mosely

Mckay is a Zab Hater , this is a known fact .

judah hands down
IMO spinks was overrated but it had nothing to do with judah. n i thought he won the first fight. but that was the sloppy judah, did u c the rematch? the look on his face, no jokes, no ****, ALL BUSINESS. he took only 100 000, for the rematch, thts nothing man..... hes fo real right now, hes not acting stupid, he's fighting properly training properly, showing up to fight, and most of all discipline

1. zab
2. margarito
3. mosely/DLH, both seem like hasbands now