Where are you now Morales fans? Morales can't win a MAB fight. You know why? MAB is smarter, patient, and powerful than Morales. I think if it is not for their 1st fight it would have been 3 to 0 and I think MAB still won that controversial fight. How much more if it is Pacman.

Where are you now Morales fans? Morales can't win a MAB fight. You know why? MAB is smarter, patient, and powerful than Morales. I think if it is not for their 1st fight it would have been 3 to 0 and I think MAB still won that controversial fight. How much more if it is Pacman.

Oh yeah, Morales did lose the first one, but he definately won the second fight. I've yet to come across anyone that scored it for Barrera other than the judges (but I'm sure this is a good chance for them to do so) . And regardless of this latest loss, I still think he will be too much for Manny. Just my opinion Barrera will always cause problems for Eriks style, and vice versa. Just cause Manny beat Barrera and Barrera beat Erik doesnt mean that Manny will beat Morales. Its all about styles, and I think Morales is just too skilled for Manny at this stage.

Oh yeah, Morales did lose the first one, but he definately won the second fight. I've yet to come across anyone that scored it for Barrera other than the judges (but I'm sure this is a good chance for them to do so) . And regardless of this latest loss, I still think he will be too much for Manny. Just my opinion Barrera will always cause problems for Eriks style, and vice versa. Just cause Manny beat Barrera and Barrera beat Erik doesnt mean that Manny will beat Morales. Its all about styles, and I think Morales is just too skilled for Manny at this stage.

If you were a boxing analyst, I would say you are the lousiest one. It was clear that MAB won that fight and NO DOUBT about it. Morales has no power. If you will pick Morales over Pacman, I would conclude that you are a moron. Think hard my friend. I know you will win a bet with Pacquiao. Before that fight, I chose MAB over Eirk, you know why?????? MAB is the better boxer, has the will to win, patient and the smart one.

If Pacquiao and Eirk will meet, I think Erik should run if he don't like to kiss the canvass.

If you were a boxing analyst, I would say you are the lousiest one. It was clear that MAB won that fight and NO DOUBT about it. Morales has no power. If you will pick Morales over Pacman, I would conclude that you are a moron. Think hard my friend. I know you will win a bet with Pacquiao. Before that fight, I chose MAB over Eirk, you know why?????? MAB is the better boxer, has the will to win, patient and the smart one.

If Pacquiao and Eirk will meet, I think Erik should run if he don't like to kiss the canvass.

So classy...terms like "lousy, moron and my friend" all rolled into one paragraph. There are so many people that believe Morales won the second fight; I didnt make the controversy up, so it stands to reason that many didnt agree with the decision, right? So were all lousy. And giving Morales a hell of a good chance (he is the better technician) over Manny is not only reasonable, but it makes me far from a moron :rolleyes:

So classy...terms like "lousy, moron and my friend" all rolled into one paragraph. There are so many people that believe Morales won the second fight; I didnt make the controversy up, so it stands to reason that many didnt agree with the decision, right? So were all lousy. And giving Morales a hell of a good chance (he is the better technician) over Manny is not only reasonable, but it makes me far from a moron :rolleyes:


That's not classy at all because it's true. Prove to me WHY Morales will win over Pacman? Coz if i am going to compare him with Pacman, I don't think he will win. He can't win over Manny simply because he has a small amount of power. He can't even KD MAB. Pacman is too powerful for him. Pacquiao has the speed and devastating power. Even if there is MAB vs. Pacman II, I would still choose Pacman. See that and think about it come fight night.

If you were a boxing analyst, I would say you are the lousiest one. It was clear that MAB won that fight and NO DOUBT about it. Morales has no power. If you will pick Morales over Pacman, I would conclude that you are a moron. Think hard my friend. I know you will win a bet with Pacquiao. Before that fight, I chose MAB over Eirk, you know why?????? MAB is the better boxer, has the will to win, patient and the smart one.

If Pacquiao and Eirk will meet, I think Erik should run if he don't like to kiss the canvass.

I'm a Pacquaio fan but where are you getting off in calling other people morons if they pick Morales. Why don't you start respecting other people's opinions before starting a thread. This ain't mannypacquiao.ph

I'm a Pacquaio fan but where are you getting off in calling other people morons if they pick Morales. Why don't you start respecting other people's opinions before starting a thread. This ain't mannypacquiao.ph


That's my opinion and observation and it doesn't mean I don't respect them. I know this isn't MannyPacquiao.ph, maybe you have had bad experiences with that site. Pardon me if I say that but the truth hurts.

That's my opinion and observation and it doesn't mean I don't respect them. I know this isn't MannyPacquiao.ph, maybe you have had bad experiences with that site. Pardon me if I say that but the truth hurts.

1) I have no problem with your opinions. What I do have a problem with is when you start disrespecting other posters. Yes in case you didn't know, calling people morons IS disrespectfull and tasteless. Your so keen on people having their own opinions, when your calling people lousy boxing analyst when they have OPINIONS of their own.

2) I never had a problem with that site. I still go there and post whnever I can. I only have problems with some mexican posters who bash my fellow filipinos for no reason.

Listen man, I understand you're a fan just as myself. But your irrational and disrespectful. It only gives a bad name to Pacquaio and to other filipino posters who enjoy this site.

1) I have no problem with your opinions. What I do have a problem with is when you start disrespecting other posters. Yes in case you didn't know, calling people morons IS disrespectfull and tasteless. Your so keen on people having their own opinions, when your calling people lousy boxing analyst when they have OPINIONS of their own.

2) I never had a problem with that site. I still go there and post whnever I can. I only have problems with some mexican posters who bash my fellow filipinos for no reason.

Listen man, I understand you're a fan just as myself. But your irrational and disrespectful. It only gives a bad name to Pacquaio and to other filipino posters who enjoy this site.


100% agree. No problem being a Pac fan. but we all need to be rational and learned posters.

I'm a Pacquaio fan but where are you getting off in calling other people morons if they pick Morales. Why don't you start respecting other people's opinions before starting a thread. This ain't mannypacquiao.ph


very well said, have some karma

1) I have no problem with your opinions. What I do have a problem with is when you start disrespecting other posters. Yes in case you didn't know, calling people morons IS disrespectfull and tasteless. Your so keen on people having their own opinions, when your calling people lousy boxing analyst when they have OPINIONS of their own.

2) I never had a problem with that site. I still go there and post whnever I can. I only have problems with some mexican posters who bash my fellow filipinos for no reason.

Listen man, I understand you're a fan just as myself. But your irrational and disrespectful. It only gives a bad name to Pacquaio and to other filipino posters who enjoy this site.


Ah you beat me to it. I always love it when the objectional Pac fans come in and humble the retards.

That's my opinion and observation and it doesn't mean I don't respect them. I know this isn't MannyPacquiao.ph, maybe you have had bad experiences with that site. Pardon me if I say that but the truth hurts.
I don't like you, guy. I have a serious problem with your thread, too. For one thing you're offensive, for another you don't seem to speak English too well, and thirdly you're ignorant. Calling Erik Morales a poor puncher is about as brainless as it gets. If you disagree with me then ask Wayne McCullough or Paulie Ayala, who have both fought Morales and both said that's he's a harder puncher than his featherweight contemporaries.

Also, before you go around saying that Morales will lose to Pacqiuao keep in mind that we're talking about a guy whose only losses in 49 fights came against Barrera. To me that says that it's a style thing, not a matter of class.

I think that years from now Morales will be more highly regarded than Barrera, given the facts that he has won widely recognized belts in three divisions as opposed to Barrera's two, has more time to achieve greater success, and has not had as much trouble with as many different types of fighters. Also keep in mind that Morales' time spent at featherweight was more impressive overall. After all, he beat one reigning and one future titlist, beat up Ayala, held Barrera to a controversial decision and then moved up and won a title in a third division. The only really noteworthy thing that Barrera did at feather was beat Hamed. I'm not knocking that by any means, but I am arguing that Morales' body of work was more impressive.

Ah you beat me to it. I always love it when the objectional Pac fans come in and humble the retards.

so long as people see the difference between the two types, its all good to everybody

Oh and to make my opinion known, I offer this. Morales cannot beat Pacquiao if he comes into the fight weighing 4000 pounds like he did against Barrera. He will need to be light and quick. He still has good pop but can't let his pride get the best of him. I still say Morales would beat Manny by close UD or late stoppage. What was his official weight like 143?

Oh and to make my opinion known, I offer this. Morales cannot beat Pacquiao if he comes into the fight weighing 4000 pounds like he did against Barrera. He will need to be light and quick. He still has good pop but can't let his pride get the best of him. I still say Morales would beat Manny by close UD or late stoppage. What was his official weight like 143?

Exactly. Morales would not be able to keep up with Pac at that weight. He'd just be giving Pac more of a speed advantage! No he needs to be as light as comfortably possible. Then he can probably cope with Pac's speed from the outside.

Oh and to make my opinion known, I offer this. Morales cannot beat Pacquiao if he comes into the fight weighing 4000 pounds like he did against Barrera. He will need to be light and quick. He still has good pop but can't let his pride get the best of him. I still say Morales would beat Manny by close UD or late stoppage. What was his official weight like 143?
Yeh, he was fully three divisions too heavy.

1) I have no problem with your opinions. What I do have a problem with is when you start disrespecting other posters. Yes in case you didn't know, calling people morons IS disrespectfull and tasteless. Your so keen on people having their own opinions, when your calling people lousy boxing analyst when they have OPINIONS of their own.

2) I never had a problem with that site. I still go there and post whnever I can. I only have problems with some mexican posters who bash my fellow filipinos for no reason.

Listen man, I understand you're a fan just as myself. But your irrational and disrespectful. It only gives a bad name to Pacquaio and to other filipino posters who enjoy this site.


If you call someone a moron it does not mean you disrespect them. It becomes disrepectful if you have no valid reasons to support it. Being a Manny P. fan has nothing to do with what I've said. If someone calls me a moron it does not mean they don't respect me. That's their judgement and I respect that but I took it positively. Maybe, you take it negatively if someone calls u a moron. Even God calls someone like that if they are DUMB. Try to watch Bro. Eli Soriano so you'll understand. It means "AWAKENING". Pardon me if I offend someone but I couldn't find other words to describe someone who couldn't get something. Your good, maybe you can help me with this.

If you call someone a moron it does not mean you disrespect them. It becomes disrepectful if you have no valid reasons to support it. Being a Manny P. fan has nothing to do with what I've said. If someone calls me a moron it does not mean they don't respect me. That's their judgement and I respect that but I took it positively. Maybe, you take it negatively if someone calls u a moron. Even God calls someone like that if they are DUMB. Try to watch Bro. Eli Soriano so you'll understand. It means "AWAKENING". Pardon me if I offend someone but I couldn't find other words to describe someone who couldn't get something. Your good, maybe you can help me with this.

Moron is an offensive word. If you call someone a moron, you wont get a smile I can tell you right now. Bro there are a lot of filipino posters on this site that are pro-Pac but not PURE-Pac. Just gotta give credit where it's due.

Enough said already VPDJ. :mad:

I don't like you, guy. I have a serious problem with your thread, too. For one thing you're offensive, for another you don't seem to speak English too well, and thirdly you're ignorant. Calling Erik Morales a poor puncher is about as brainless as it gets. If you disagree with me then ask Wayne McCullough or Paulie Ayala, who have both fought Morales and both said that's he's a harder puncher than his featherweight contemporaries.

Also, before you go around saying that Morales will lose to Pacqiuao keep in mind that we're talking about a guy whose only losses in 49 fights came against Barrera. To me that says that it's a style thing, not a matter of class.

I think that years from now Morales will be more highly regarded than Barrera, given the facts that he has won widely recognized belts in three divisions as opposed to Barrera's two, has more time to achieve greater success, and has not had as much trouble with as many different types of fighters. Also keep in mind that Morales' time spent at featherweight was more impressive overall. After all, he beat one reigning and one future titlist, beat up Ayala, held Barrera to a controversial decision and then moved up and won a title in a third division. The only really noteworthy thing that Barrera did at feather was beat Hamed. I'm not knocking that by any means, but I am arguing that Morales' body of work was more impressive.


If you speak English fluently it does not mean you are good or somethin like a GENIUS. What I am trying to imply (get this one) is that MAB has powerful fist than Morales and MAB for me is the better fighter and boxer. GET THAT? WHY (I will support this) MAB after all their fights gain much knowledge on how to attack offensively and counter Erik. And compared with Pacman, Erik I think with all honesty cannot win a Pacquiao merely because of Pacquiao's speed and power. He has 40% chances with Pacquiao. And if you think Erik has all the guts and power to win over Pacman, it's merely your opinion as well. But after all i've seen with Erik Morales fights, i am NOT convince that he can win a Pacquiao fight.

I respect your opinion. Let's just what happens when they fight.

I'm a Pac fan but MAB's victory against MoRALES doesn't mean Morales can't win against Pac.

Let's all be sensible and real Bros. with the caliber of these fighters a single mistake inside that ring can change the results of their fight. MAB, MORALES, JMM and Pac . . . among these 4 all fights will always be 50/50 chance.

But being a FAN then it's normal for us to analyze matches in favor of our fighters. ;)

Peace OUT!

I'm a Pac fan but MAB's victory against MoRALES doesn't mean Morales can't win against Pac.

Let's all be sensible and real Bros. with the caliber of these fighters a single mistake inside that ring can change the results of their fight. MAB, MORALES, JMM and Pac . . . among these 4 all fights will always be 50/50 chance.

But being a FAN then it's normal for us to analyze matches in favor of our fighters. ;)

Peace OUT!


I believe it's 60% Pac and 40% Morales. This is with all honesty and my own analysis. Why??? The following are my opinions:

1. The one that counts most is Pacquiao's POWER. I think Morales will have second thoughts on going toe to toe with Pacquiao.

2. Pacquiao has speed and has a defense now just like the JMM fight.

3. Pacquiao is not afraid of anybody or any opponent. He does not respect Morales.

4. Pacquiao is aggressive and has great stamina.

5. If Morales likes to brawl, Manny will love it coz he will fight back and KD Morales with his great power.

6. Pacquiao has a great chin and can take a punch.

This is why I still chose Pacquiao over Morales.

The only chance for Morales to win is to counter tactically with POWER and great timing to send Pacquiao to the canvass.

Yeah, this is supposed to be a friendly forum. Let us respect other's opinions if we want others to respect our own opinion. We can say what you want anytime, but no foul or "below the belt" language.

If you were a boxing analyst, I would say you are the lousiest one. It was clear that MAB won that fight and NO DOUBT about it. Morales has no power. If you will pick Morales over Pacman, I would conclude that you are a moron. Think hard my friend. I know you will win a bet with Pacquiao. Before that fight, I chose MAB over Eirk, you know why?????? MAB is the better boxer, has the will to win, patient and the smart one.

If Pacquiao and Eirk will meet, I think Erik should run if he don't like to kiss the canvass.
Hey, watch it. Lots of Pac fans around this site. Don't need to be disrespectful if people have opinions other than your own. Styles makes fights. Perfect example: Ali-Foreman-Frazier
Ali always had trouble with Frazier, Foreman annihilated Frazier and Ali beat Foreman. What the hell does that prove? How do you know that Morales' style won't give pac trouble if they haven't fought yet? People like you that gives pac fans and fellow filipinos bad reps around this site. You can get your points across without name calling.

If you call someone a moron it does not mean you disrespect them.
wtf??? what is this evosbm reloaded???? btw, have some bad karma, on me.

Kudos, mOOks! For all the stuff you posted on this thread...GREAT ONES, pal!!! Wanted to give you truckloads of good k, but was told I hadn't spread around enough to give some to you again! :( Btw, thanks for the ones you gave me yesterday, buddy! How did you do that? :confused: T'was the second bunch...! :D

wtf??? what is this evosbm reloaded???? btw, have some bad karma, on me.

C'mon folks, the guy already apologized...so you can stop ganging on him. VPDJ has a valid point. Haven't you got friends or other people who called you "moron" (for a joke) and really didn't mean anything by it?

Where is love in this forum? :)

C'mon folks, the guy already apologized...so you can stop ganging on him. VPDJ has a valid point. Haven't you got friends or other people who called you "moron" (for a joke) and really didn't mean anything by it?

Where is love in this forum? :)
Hey Janno, haven't seen u for a while. Yes I do have friends who would call me moron as a joke (well, at least I think they are kidding :D ) but I doubt it if he's that familiar with tracylee or if he was her friend. Try and call someone you just met a moron and see how it sits. That was the whole point... totally unnecessary. Plus tracylee is my buddy, so it did not sit well with me. Oh well... bygones. Nice seeing you again tsong.

but I doubt it if he's that familiar with tracylee or if he was her friend.

Just one more thing. It's really not class to call names to a one who is a lady. A direct apology to tracylee is called for.

Hey Janno, haven't seen u for a while. Yes I do have friends who would call me moron as a joke (well, at least I think they are kidding :D ) but I doubt it if he's that familiar with tracylee or if he was her friend. Try and call someone you just met a moron and see how it sits. That was the whole point... totally unnecessary. Plus tracylee is my buddy, so it did not sit well with me. Oh well... bygones. Nice seeing you again tsong.

yeah, i was on sabbatical for over a month doing some projects at home. it's good to be back chatting with you again guys...well, i think you got a point, you don't call a stranger "moron" and then expect him to to think it was a joke. besides tracylee is a lady. i'm probably used to casual, warm-blooded and ever-smiling flips! ;)

I believe it's 60% Pac and 40% Morales. This is with all honesty and my own analysis. Why??? The following are my opinions:

1. The one that counts most is Pacquiao's POWER. I think Morales will have second thoughts on going toe to toe with Pacquiao.

2. Pacquiao has speed and has a defense now just like the JMM fight.

3. Pacquiao is not afraid of anybody or any opponent. He does not respect Morales.

4. Pacquiao is aggressive and has great stamina.

5. If Morales likes to brawl, Manny will love it coz he will fight back and KD Morales with his great power.

6. Pacquiao has a great chin and can take a punch.

This is why I still chose Pacquiao over Morales.

The only chance for Morales to win is to counter tactically with POWER and great timing to send Pacquiao to the canvass.


No problem Bro you got a very valid point . . . but even if it's 70/30 against Pac I'll stick and root for him. :D

Pacquiao has speed and has a defense now just like the JMM fight

Shouldnt you see his next fight before you go around saying how much better his defence is? JMM dint seem to have very much trouble finding Pacmans face after the 1st round. ;)

Manny Pacquiao, based on his ability, exciting style, & his ambition, should be the most universally beloved fighter on this planet.

But....he's not. There's a large # of fans who want to see him stretched.
The reason ? Because of people like the insulting fool who started this thread.

I believe it's 60% Pac and 40% Morales. This is with all honesty and my own analysis. Why??? The following are my opinions:

1. The one that counts most is Pacquiao's POWER. I think Morales will have second thoughts on going toe to toe with Pacquiao.

2. Pacquiao has speed and has a defense now just like the JMM fight.

3. Pacquiao is not afraid of anybody or any opponent. He does not respect Morales.

4. Pacquiao is aggressive and has great stamina.

5. If Morales likes to brawl, Manny will love it coz he will fight back and KD Morales with his great power.

6. Pacquiao has a great chin and can take a punch.

This is why I still chose Pacquiao over Morales.

The only chance for Morales to win is to counter tactically with POWER and great timing to send Pacquiao to the canvass.

1. The one that counts most is Pacquiao's POWER. I think Morales will have second thoughts on going toe to toe with Pacquiao. this may be true. but morales has never respected anyones power.

2. Pacquiao has speed and has a defense now just like the JMM fight. pac-man has speed i agree, but defense is truely lacking as was seen in the jmm fight.

3. Pacquiao is not afraid of anybody or any opponent. He does not respect Morales. this is ususally the downfall of all fighters. this is exactly what will serve him his first loss.

4. Pacquiao is aggressive and has great stamina. this is very very true too. the man can go 12 without stopping. unless his confidence gets him stopped earlier. morales has pleanty of stamina as seen in the barrera fight.

5. If Morales likes to brawl, Manny will love it coz he will fight back and KD Morales with his great power. manny is an awesome brawler don't get me wrong, but has he truely been tested? precision will make the difference. manny is nothing more than a brawler. i have yet to see true technical skills.

6. Pacquiao has a great chin and can take a punch. he has taken some very good punches. but the current trend seems to be ko by body blow. morales too has a an excellent chin and body. pac-man on the other hand has been served and by body blows.

i'm not saying that pac-man can't beat morales. he is an awesome brawler. he comes with speed, power, stamina, and aggressiveness. any moron can see that there are many details to take into consideration. it is only the blind and biased that refuse to see them all. morales has just as much of a chance against pac-man as pac has against morales.

i love all this pacman has a great chin bull****.

if his ****ing chin is so great then how come he was ko'd in the third agianst a fighter with a record of 11-4-4 at the time, at ****ing flyweight :eek:

he was also dropped against nedal hussain in the fourth a fight he won on a cut stoppage at super bantam.

didnt see Larios get dropped at the wekendd and this board seems to think he is ****. :eek:

He then went on to be dropped again by that explosive puncher at super bantam Serkzhan Yeshmangbeto a devsatating puncher who has ammassed 3 wins 9 losses and 1 draw. This wasnt long ago 2003.
Barerra then dropped him in the 1st of their contest.


****inell lennox lewis went down twice in his career and was labelled chinny, Pacman has kissed the canvass more times than the pope has kissed terra firma and is an iron chinned defensive master.

****inell do you lot know anything about boxing. Or to be a pacman fan do they remove part of your brain or something.

Pacman is ALL about offence, all about his power being better than the other mans, he is NOT a great boxer, he is not a defensive master and he is definitely not granite chinned.

learn repeat and recite.

If half of you were fans like you make out then you would know about these occurrences on you hero's record rather than not bother to find out or ignore them.

im bored of hearing it. no offence to big pappy who just happened to post above sorry dued, nor jomapac who generally will take on board opinions but some of the pac fans here jesus you need to take a look at your perpective and knowledge of the game.

im bored of hearing it. no offence to big pappy who just happened to post above sorry dued, nor jomapac who generally will take on board opinions but some of the pac fans here jesus you need to take a look at your perpective and knowledge of the game.
no offense taken. ik agree with you to a degree.

Where are you now Morales fans? Morales can't win a MAB fight. You know why? MAB is smarter, patient, and powerful than Morales. I think if it is not for their 1st fight it would have been 3 to 0 and I think MAB still won that controversial fight. How much more if it is Pacman.
agreed, barrera should be 3-0 in this series.

3. Pacquiao is not afraid of anybody or any opponent. He does not respect Morales.

Uh hu, and THAT alone just could be his biggest mistake.

If you speak English fluently it does not mean you are good or somethin like a GENIUS. What I am trying to imply (get this one) is that MAB has powerful fist than Morales and MAB for me is the better fighter and boxer. GET THAT? WHY (I will support this) MAB after all their fights gain much knowledge on how to attack offensively and counter Erik. And compared with Pacman, Erik I think with all honesty cannot win a Pacquiao merely because of Pacquiao's speed and power. He has 40% chances with Pacquiao. And if you think Erik has all the guts and power to win over Pacman, it's merely your opinion as well. But after all i've seen with Erik Morales fights, i am NOT convince that he can win a Pacquiao fight.

I respect your opinion. Let's just what happens when they fight.
I don't think I understood a word that you wrote. It's important to speak English fluently as long as you are posting on a primarily English-speaking site. You clearly don't speak Egnlish fluently.

You did not say that Morales would lose because of Pacquiao's speed and power. You said he would lose because he lost to Barrera. That is clearly not the truth.

There is more quantitative evidence to support my view than yours. Which is why, although you may not be wrong, I think you are.

i love all this pacman has a great chin bull****.

if his ****ing chin is so great then how come he was ko'd in the third agianst a fighter with a record of 11-4-4 at the time, at ****ing flyweight :eek:

he was also dropped against nedal hussain in the fourth a fight he won on a cut stoppage at super bantam.

didnt see Larios get dropped at the wekendd and this board seems to think he is ****. :eek:

He then went on to be dropped again by that explosive puncher at super bantam Serkzhan Yeshmangbeto a devsatating puncher who has ammassed 3 wins 9 losses and 1 draw. This wasnt long ago 2003.
Barerra then dropped him in the 1st of their contest.


****inell lennox lewis went down twice in his career and was labelled chinny, Pacman has kissed the canvass more times than the pope has kissed terra firma and is an iron chinned defensive master.

****inell do you lot know anything about boxing. Or to be a pacman fan do they remove part of your brain or something.

Pacman is ALL about offence, all about his power being better than the other mans, he is NOT a great boxer, he is not a defensive master and he is definitely not granite chinned.

learn repeat and recite.

If half of you were fans like you make out then you would know about these occurrences on you hero's record rather than not bother to find out or ignore them.

im bored of hearing it. no offence to big pappy who just happened to post above sorry dued, nor jomapac who generally will take on board opinions but some of the pac fans here jesus you need to take a look at your perpective and knowledge of the game.

Whoooa buddy chilll out a bit you gonna pop a nerve. You should really start differenciating the Pac fans from Pac fanatics. Pac's chin is not granit but it ain't made of glass. I DONT ****ING CARE HOW GREAT YOUR CHIN IS IF YOU GET HIT RIGHT AT THE RIGHT SPOT WITH OUT SEEING THE PUNCH YOU ARE BOUND TO GO DOWN.
He got dorpped at fly weight because he got ****y and did not see the punch. For ****ing sakes the kid was 17 years old. How many teenagers have a granite chin?
Hussein HAS power.He could have knock Larios the **** out if he wanted to but he was just outworked and blew his chance. 98% of boxers out there gets dropped but that don't mean they have glass chins. **** Manny went up to featherweight against Barrera and MArquez, two guys with more than decent KO percentage and stayed up. Took their best shots and nada, stayed on his feet. Didn't even come close to going down. Anyweyz, my advice to you JPW is to ignore Pac fans like these if they really piss your off. Cuz the way you speak and the way you generelize pisses ME off.

i love all this pacman has a great chin bull****.

if his ****ing chin is so great then how come he was ko'd in the third agianst a fighter with a record of 11-4-4 at the time, at ****ing flyweight :eek:

he was also dropped against nedal hussain in the fourth a fight he won on a cut stoppage at super bantam.

didnt see Larios get dropped at the wekendd and this board seems to think he is ****. :eek:

He then went on to be dropped again by that explosive puncher at super bantam Serkzhan Yeshmangbeto a devsatating puncher who has ammassed 3 wins 9 losses and 1 draw. This wasnt long ago 2003.
Barerra then dropped him in the 1st of their contest.


****inell lennox lewis went down twice in his career and was labelled chinny, Pacman has kissed the canvass more times than the pope has kissed terra firma and is an iron chinned defensive master.

****inell do you lot know anything about boxing. Or to be a pacman fan do they remove part of your brain or something.

Pacman is ALL about offence, all about his power being better than the other mans, he is NOT a great boxer, he is not a defensive master and he is definitely not granite chinned.

learn repeat and recite.

If half of you were fans like you make out then you would know about these occurrences on you hero's record rather than not bother to find out or ignore them.

im bored of hearing it. no offence to big pappy who just happened to post above sorry dued, nor jomapac who generally will take on board opinions but some of the pac fans here jesus you need to take a look at your perpective and knowledge of the game.


Hey JPW relax man . . . don't get lost in these HYPES . . . you sound so pissed . . . don't generalized.

My prespective? . . . definitely Pac is not a great boxer nor a defensive master being an all out offensive fighter . . . you cannot be both but he does box and he has a decent deffense. If you ONLY have seen some of his old fights I'm sure you'll be suprised to see Pac box . . . defense? Watch that MAB and JMM fight again . . . and refer to the compubox analysis . . . out of the hundred of punches thrown against Pac only very few solidly landed . . . isn't that defense for you? As in the case of his fight against JMM Manny was out punch was the solid hits were not more than 8. Just like his MAB fight most of the punches thrown hit his forearm, elbows and globes. That's fully documented so you can watch those fights over and over again for analysis.

Bro boxing is all about throwing and landing the right punches. Ali, Foreman, Lewis, Leonard, Jesus Chavez, De LA Hoya, Tyson Roy Jones and the rest of the best all got dropped in the ring so what's the big FUZZ of MANNY GETTING DROPPED before. He took solid power punches from MAB and JMM that snapped his head but he never buckled down isn't that good enough for you? His chin improved a lot since his flyweight days. :cool:

Now chill out man . . . if you are getting irritated by the DIE HARD FANATICS . . . then just ignore them.

Peace!

i dont know if hes more powerful, but MAB is definitely a smarter fighter and also more patient.

Hey JPW relax man . . . don't get lost in these HYPES . . . you sound so pissed . . . don't generalized.

My prespective? . . . definitely Pac is not a great boxer nor a defensive master being an all out offensive fighter . . . you cannot be both but he does box and he has a decent deffense. If you ONLY have seen some of his old fights I'm sure you'll be suprised to see Pac box . . . defense? Watch that MAB and JMM fight again . . . and refer to the compubox analysis . . . out of the hundred of punches thrown against Pac only very few solidly landed . . . isn't that defense for you? As in the case of his fight against JMM Manny was out punch was the solid hits were not more than 8. Just like his MAB fight most of the punches thrown hit his forearm, elbows and globes. That's fully documented so you can watch those fights over and over again for analysis.



Now chill out man . . . if you are getting irritated by the DIE HARD FANATICS . . . then just ignore them.

Peace!


fair post and i take your comments on board. :D

I don't think I understood a word that you wrote. It's important to speak English fluently as long as you are posting on a primarily English-speaking site. You clearly don't speak Egnlish fluently.

You did not say that Morales would lose because of Pacquiao's speed and power. You said he would lose because he lost to Barrera. That is clearly not the truth.

There is more quantitative evidence to support my view than yours. Which is why, although you may not be wrong, I think you are.

Then I can say you are a ..... . You can't understand a WORD that I wrote (IMPOSSIBLE!!!!). You too is not fluent in English. Everybody is not fluent in English you know why? We commit mistakes. So you don't have to say that you are and I am not. "You said he would LOSE OR LOSS? (LOSE means misplaced or mislay) See you are not that good in English.. even a simple spelling or word. I didn't say I'm good also. LOL) because he lost to Barrera" - Yes, this is true. Why? Morales can't even handle Barrera's aggressiveness and power how much more with Pacman (I didn't say Morales can't win a Pacquiao fight but as for my own analysis he only has a 40% chance.) And let me clearly state this once and for all, among all the the best featherweights out there now, JMM, MAB, Morales, - "PACQUIAO" for me is the better fighter based from my own analysis.

Then I can say you are a ..... . You can't understand a WORD that I wrote (IMPOSSIBLE!!!!). You too is not fluent in English. Everybody is not fluent in English you know why? We commit mistakes. So you don't have to say that you are and I am not. "You said he would LOSE OR LOSS? (LOSE means misplaced or mislay) See you are not that good in English.. even a simple spelling or word. I didn't say I'm good also. LOL) because he lost to Barrera" - Yes, this is true. Why? Morales can't even handle Barrera's aggressiveness and power how much more with Pacman (I didn't say Morales can't win a Pacquiao fight but as for my own analysis he only has a 40% chance.) And let me clearly state this once and for all, among all the the best featherweights out there now, JMM, MAB, Morales, - "PACQUIAO" for me is the better fighter based from my own analysis.
You're wrong. Everything that this post says is wrong. I'm not even gonna bother sorting it out. In my mind it has a big, fat, black-ass X straight through it. Trust me young man, if anyone is fluent in English, it's me.

You're wrong. Everything that this post says is wrong. I'm not even gonna bother sorting it out. In my mind it has a big, fat, black-ass X straight through it. Trust me young man, if anyone is fluent in English, it's me.


Yeah right.. he.. he.. :D You are very fluent indeed..

Where are you now Morales fans? Morales can't win a MAB fight. You know why? MAB is smarter, patient, and powerful than Morales. I think if it is not for their 1st fight it would have been 3 to 0 and I think MAB still won that controversial fight. How much more if it is Pacman.

im right here

im right here


Conclusion, MAB is the better boxer than Morales. 2 - 1 by MAB. Sorry. :)

Conclusion, MAB is the better boxer than Morales. 2 - 1 by MAB. Sorry. :)

no need to be sry
its just the way **** is
i am a loyal fan
but im not a krazee fanatic thats gonna say he didnt lose to mab

pacman vs em when????make it happen!!!!! :D

pacman vs em when????make it happen!!!!! :D


It will happen soon. It's up to Arum Promotions and Morales if their plan will push through. Pacquiao is just waiting. :)

no need to be sry
its just the way **** is
i am a loyal fan
but im not a krazee fanatic thats gonna say he didnt lose to mab

Yeah, Morales didn't say he loss to MAB, He just fling a water container to MAB out of frustration.. :D

Yeah, Morales didn't say he loss to MAB, He just fling a water container to MAB out of frustration.. :D

BS
WHATA FUKIN LIAR
NO NEED TO MAKE **** UP LIKE THAT
YOU FUKIN **** EYED MOTHA FUKER

he flung it at MAB's dad :D

BS
WHATA FUKIN LIAR
NO NEED TO MAKE **** UP LIKE THAT
YOU FUKIN **** EYED MOTHA FUKER

he flung it at MAB's dad :D


Sorry, he flung it at MAB's dad. But they are one. he.. he.. He shouldn't do that. It's a bad image for a sportsman and a champion.

I reckon Pacman would beat morales by a UD.

Sorry, he flung it at MAB's dad. But they are one. he.. he.. He shouldn't do that. It's a bad image for a sportsman and a champion.


tell em next time throw a chair!@#$%^&*..what a croc sour loser!!!! hey em you can't win it all!!!!! :cool:

Morales is arrogant..and a sour loser!

5 pounds is a lot for skinny little guys like Pacman. For a heavyweight 5 pounds is nothing, but for little guys 5 pounds is a bigger percentage of their body. By the way, those 5 pounds gained will probably be fat since its imposible gain 5 pounds of muscle in 2 months. Don't forget Pacman is just a forward coming fighter like Trinidad. After Marquez swithched strategy by the 2nd round, Pacman was rendered harmless and was almost finished by Marquez. All that Marquez did was raise his right hand and move left to avoid Pacman's left straight. If you see that fight again, Marquez was just brilliantly going in circles to the left. I give Marquez a lot of credit for being so smart in spite of his pain. I see a repeat of Barrera vs Prince Hammed in this fight, where Morales outboxes technic defficient Pacwoman. I can see the Philipines in tears already.
El Terrible!!! by KO or a lopsided decision.

it's final.....em vs pacman 19 march 2005!!!!!!!!!!!!!!bring it on!!!!!!!!!!yeah beybah yah!!!!!!(to the tune of austin powers) :D

Oh and to make my opinion known, I offer this. Morales cannot beat Pacquiao if he comes into the fight weighing 4000 pounds like he did against Barrera. He will need to be light and quick. He still has good pop but can't let his pride get the best of him. I still say Morales would beat Manny by close UD or late stoppage. What was his official weight like 143?

So do you think 137-140 is good for morales? IF SO, moving up to 130 doesnt make any difference for PAC. He came in @ 136 againts MAB and in devastating form. if he come at 138 i believe he'll be more powerfull. :)

Have you noticed Pacman fans tend to have a girlish look, with golden high-lights on their hair and wearing a black shirt?

Have you noticed Pacman fans tend to have a girlish look, with golden high-lights on their hair and wearing a black shirt?

nah...i haven't noticed...might just be a product of too much boredom...get a life, dude! :D

Morales is a harder puncher than Barrera, common opponents, Ayala, and Kelley have both stated so.

Boxing is a sport of styles, while yes, Barrera did beat Morales and Morales did in fact win at least one of their matches. Hurt Barrera repeatedly. And even scored a legitimate KD that wasnt counted.

Saying that because Morales lost to Barrera he will loose to Pacquiao is the most stupid thing you can say. I bet Junior Jones wishes that was true.

Morales is a harder puncher than Barrera, common opponents, Ayala, and Kelley have both stated so.

Boxing is a sport of styles, while yes, Barrera did beat Morales and Morales did in fact win at least one of their matches. Hurt Barrera repeatedly. And even scored a legitimate KD that wasnt counted.

Saying that because Morales lost to Barrera he will loose to Pacquiao is the most stupid thing you can say. I bet Junior Jones wishes that was true.

I always think that Morales is a very skilled fighter, one that can slug, box & counterpunch from different angles. Among the three, I would say that JMM is the best schooled, Barrera the smartest and Erik the most skillful. Having said that, Morales is probably the least smart among the three, coz he is the one that has the tendency to let his emotion dictate his decision especially in the ring. Just look at what happened between him and Barrera. I know he has a big hatred for MAB but his actions toward MAB only suggest that he has difficulty of contolling his emotion.

He is the best example of Mexican pride and machismo. This is the same reason why he always engages himself into a brawl in most of his fights. For him, not backing down to his opponent is the true mark of a man. So far this style has done good things for him. having only lost to his arch-nemesis Barrera. But the Morales of those years is fading away. I think that he is no longer the fast, powerful and hungry fighter that he was once before. And as Manny boxing expart said, he is now on the downside of his career.

Erik can't truly fully respect pac's power since he hasn't tasted it yet. I have this feeling that he will try to go toe to toe with Pac in the first two rounds. If this happens, Pac will surely land some of those straight lefts making Erik respect Pac's power. At this point, Erik will have second thought about his moves and will find himself moving backwards allowing Manny to dictate the tempo of the fight. If this situation continues, I think that a 100% Pac would KO him in the 5th or 6th round.

Have you noticed Pacman fans tend to have a girlish look, with golden high-lights on their hair and wearing a black shirt?

i haven't noticed that but i do notice how they always use that girlish "hehehehe" everytime i see that i think its a girl. but i look at the name and know better.

Have you noticed Pacman fans tend to have a girlish look, with golden high-lights on their hair and wearing a black shirt?
well here's another example of a disrespectful post... stick to the upcoming fight dude, and not say something like that to PAC fans...

i haven't noticed that but i do notice how they always use that girlish "hehehehe" everytime i see that i think its a girl. but i look at the name and know better.

i's not girlish dude... that's just how we want to express how we laugh at the idea/posts... common text lingo in the phils...

all the fights morrales and MAB fights were close as hell, you cant bad mouth any one of them for winning of losing. Pacqiao doesn't know what he is in for..

Morales took the 2nd fight
but got his ass whooped in the 1st and last fight.
Pacman will destroy him early in the fight.
but Morales will pick it up in the later rounds...

Where are you now Morales fans? Morales can't win a MAB fight. You know why? MAB is smarter, patient, and powerful than Morales. I think if it is not for their 1st fight it would have been 3 to 0 and I think MAB still won that controversial fight. How much more if it is Pacman.


Wins/losses in boxing matches do not necessarily induce transitive ranking.

Have you noticed Pacman fans tend to have a girlish look, with golden high-lights on their hair and wearing a black shirt?


Girlish look? :D Are you getting desperate dude? Can you not argue sensibly to contest what pac fans are saying?. . . then why resort to CRAPS and BULL****. Have you seen any of their faces . . . . your hallucinating dude.

That's just a product of your desperation to get even with PAC fans. :p

If my comment was so immature why, so many replies. Thanks for not posting that picture anymore. I'll be more sensitive and ask nicely next time. I don't wanna hurt anyone's feelings. I just thought it was very gay. Anyways Morales wins by KO and the Philipines is in tears.

If my comment was so immature why, so many replies. Thanks for not posting that picture anymore. I'll be more sensitive and ask nicely next time. I don't wanna hurt anyone's feelings. I just thought it was very gay. Anyways Morales wins by KO and the Philipines is in tears.


Why so many replies? Because there are so many who are getting pissed and offended.

We'll see about that :D . . . . that remains to be seen. I'm seeing it the otherway around. Pac will hand Eric his first K.O. lost. But no needs to shed tears dude . . . win or lose . . . life goes on.

This fight is going to have a lot of ramifications on the smaller weights because after this fight some of the other champs are going to have to get a fight. I really would like to see Pac fight In jin Chi or Morales fight Joel Cassemeyor.

This fight is going to have a lot of ramifications on the smaller weights because after this fight some of the other champs are going to have to get a fight. I really would like to see Pac fight In jin Chi or Morales fight Joel Cassemeyor.

So Casa wants to pick on the smaller guys now...huh?

wow this thread is still alive lol.

So Casa wants to pick on the smaller guys now...huh?

Cassameyor is small himself. Morales is actually bigger than him. He's a little guy.