Mario Viet, talking about whether Joe Calzaghe will KO him again in a single round (it happened the first time they met, and Joe's been boasting about going to repeat the trick)

"He can't even know if my chin is strong or weak, because last time we fought he hit me on the cheek."

Eh?!!!? He can't know if he can knock me out on the chin cos last time he knocked me out on the cheek? What? That's like Roy Jones saying Glen Johnson doesn't know if his chin is strong or not because he knocked him out on the temple.

If the guy's knocking you out, then... what the **** does it matter?!!!?

Mario Veit is a prime example of why the WBO is the most worthless belt on the planet...the guy gets KO'd in the 1st round, then a few years later gets re-instated as the #1 contender for the 2nd time...ridiculous!

The IBF is seconds-worst, Mauricio Pastrana got 2 shots at Raf Marquez, and Robert Allen and Echols each got multiple undeserved shots at B-Hop

The IBF is seconds-worst, Mauricio Pastrana got 2 shots at Raf Marquez, and Robert Allen and Echols each got multiple undeserved shots at B-Hop
Both them guys personaly picked to fight them.

Both them guys personaly picked to fight them.
No they were mandatory contenders, they had no choice other than giving up the title

No they were mandatory contenders, they had no choice other than giving up the title
no buddy
only hopkins was mandatory
rafa chose to fight pastrana
cuz the first time he didnt ko him
so he wnated to ko him
which he did

Didn`t Echols floor Hopkins in their first fight. i think the ref ruled it a slip but general opinion was that it was a legit KD! It went the distance too so i believe that the IBF gave Echols a mandatory rematch because of his strong showing in the first encounter!

I have no knowledge of if it was a legit KD, but it would not surprise me. Nard has been down before. He is tough but his very technically-sound boxing style helps him from getting knocked down, not just his chin. Bernard's whole set is designed to deflect someone else's offense. The way he holds his chin, the placement of his hands. If he fought like Roy did he'd probably get KO'd too. Nard is a very smart and respected fighter and getting knocked down by Echols is nothing to be ashamed of.

i dont thin he was down vs echols. he got floored twice vs mercado cause he's bully tactics got him in trouble. when he lowered his shoulders to push him back, twice mercado caught him with right uppercuts i beilve

:hijacked: Sorry, did this thread's title say "let's talk about Hopkins"?

Oscar Bonavena was one tough son of a *****. I've read stories of the guy just blowing apart wooden doors with one punch, all over money that he was owed. He was not someone you would want to **** with.

Mario Veit is a prime example of why the WBO is the most worthless belt on the planet...the guy gets KO'd in the 1st round, then a few years later gets re-instated as the #1 contender for the 2nd time...ridiculous!

The IBF is seconds-worst, Mauricio Pastrana got 2 shots at Raf Marquez, and Robert Allen and Echols each got multiple undeserved shots at B-Hop

I don't even consider WBOgus 'title holders' as champs. Never have.
There are 3 belts to go for, period. IBF, WBC & WBA in no partic order.
Even three is too many.