View Full Version : Hitting the bag after a little lay off


g0tcha
12-26-2009, 10:43 PM
was super bored so i decided to go hit the bag for a few minutes and after a min or 2 i started to speed up and i felt a little wierd. i threw my favorite combo out there and it felt a little off not in a bad way. i felt like i was flowing through it faster and stronger. let me know what you think.

combination @ 40 seconds in this video
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compared to the new one here
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PAC-BOY
12-26-2009, 10:44 PM
Take some roids youll feel better!!!

g0tcha
12-26-2009, 10:49 PM
Take some roids youll feel better!!!

ok....??? :gay:

putaloco
12-26-2009, 10:51 PM
i liked your first style better.

PAC-BOY
12-26-2009, 10:53 PM
ok....??? :gay:

Just kiddin... With everything dealing with a work out...the more you do the better you feel!

Mares
12-26-2009, 11:25 PM
the way to push is not do 3 combo and stop and pause and look instead try get 9 or 12 it will make a big difference sooner try hit 9 or 12 shots then jab a bit to catch u breath u do it again.

NYU Alum.
12-26-2009, 11:42 PM
the way to push is not do 3 combo and stop and pause and look instead try get 9 or 12 it will make a big difference sooner try hit 9 or 12 shots then jab a bit to catch u breath u do it again.Don't listen to this fool, he doesn't know sh*t. I wouldn't take advice from someone who pretends to box, lmao.

Mares
12-27-2009, 12:06 AM
Don't listen to this fool, he doesn't know sh*t. I wouldn't take advice from someone who pretends to box, lmao.

i can box better than u, in fact u ain't even half my level fatass. :tragedy:
stop dreaming u are the next pacman because your just a hopeless fatpig. :bottle: :popcorn: :wave:

check this pigs video shadow boxing likes he's blowing crap out his ass and say he is the next pacquiao and he can beat hatton lol ****en pig. And he's out here posin like a somekind of a ****en expert when he's isn't good or halfway compared to an average beginer.

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Pacmanjay
12-27-2009, 12:20 AM
was super bored so i decided to go hit the bag for a few minutes and after a min or 2 i started to speed up and i felt a little wierd. i threw my favorite combo out there and it felt a little off not in a bad way. i felt like i was flowing through it faster and stronger. let me know what you think.

combination @ 40 seconds in this video
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compared to the new one here
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Although you have decent punches, its obvious that you never went to a real boxing gym by the way you cannot flow through one round. Doesn't matter if this is after a "layoff" (whatever that means from a guy who hasn't boxed seriously) you cannot put a round of work together as in throwing combination after combination combined with movement and flow.

g0tcha
12-27-2009, 12:27 AM
Although you have decent punches, its obvious that you never went to a real boxing gym by the way you cannot flow through one round. Doesn't matter if this is after a "layoff" (whatever that means from a guy who hasn't boxed seriously) you cannot put a round of work together as in throwing combination after combination combined with movement and flow.

thanks for the input but I wasn't really trying to go a round or do multiple rounds like the vid said. I don't doubt you cant box but please do show me a vid of you personally showing me what perfection is because you sure do claim it in your criticism. Again thanks for your tips and comments

Pacmanjay
12-27-2009, 01:32 AM
thanks for the input but I wasn't really trying to go a round or do multiple rounds like the vid said. I don't doubt you cant box but please do show me a vid of you personally showing me what perfection is because you sure do claim it in your criticism. Again thanks for your tips and comments



I'm not perfect by any means. I'm a beginner myself. But that doesn't mean I can't see faults on other beginners. Like I said, you have good punches. Well at least the speed. You're using a kiddy stand up bag so its hard to judge your power. I do see that you pause after each combo. Like really pause, stop. You should always be moving or be ready to move or something. You should be hitting the bag like its an opponent so after your throw a combo you shouldn't wait and be in a fluid fighting stance like the bag will hit back or something. Your hand also comes down after you jab. It should come straight back not down and back.

Domey
12-27-2009, 02:23 AM
When you take time off then get back into it, you are so use to not throwing these punches that you almost trick yourself into thinking they are faster and stronger.

In reality, in your second video I saw a lot of arm punching, which would explain you feeling faster.

As for feeling stronger, that happens as well. I highly doubt you are actually stronger after not training then when you were. It is just a trick that our mind plays on us.

You are pausing after combos, and not moving around. However to give you the benefit of the doubt, the way the camera is positioned you really do not have to much room to move and stay on camera at the same time.

After you throw your combos, you should follow with a jab or two while you pull away and reset, or use angles and pivot out. Like I mentioned, you do not have much room but there are options.

You should practice them, as bad habits form easily and are hard to break. Don't sit there and admire your work after throwing a combo. The last thing you would want to do in a fight is throw a combo, then stand there 'admiring' it, to get clocked(Not saying you are admiring it in specific, it is just terminology for standing there doing nothing after doing something).

g0tcha
12-27-2009, 02:41 AM
i dont arm punch. arm punching is very uncomfortable to do especially when i try to explain mechanics to someone who just doesnt understand about pivoting and such. i havent been doing much training for the last month because ive been lifting and my back and core and just overall muscle has gotten a lot stronger then before. also my membership just ended and its too damn expensive ($120 a month :lame:). so im thinking that especially with the added core strength it helps me go from say a left body hook to left head hook a lot faster then before because the reset on that punch engages a lot of core and the stronger your core is the faster and stronger you can throw your second hook. of course i understand about not standing there and letting my opponent get their shots in right after taking or defending mine. like the vid said i was just messin around and not trying to prepare myself for a smoker or anything like that. the little bit of actually visualizing i did was when i finish combos i bring both hands back to my head to defend. may not be the best way to do it and i could be more effective jabbing or and such but thats what i was just doing. also about halfway through i do throw a counter jab offa the bags jab lol but you cant see it because im in the way of my right hand slapping it down. even though freestanding bags are the worst at displaying ones power, unless you punch like mike tyson, even on a heavy bag you cant gauge someones power. only way you could is either holding mitts for them or getting hit by them.

g0tcha
12-27-2009, 02:42 AM
oh and on another note i did look kinda dumb after every combo when i stand there for a split second with my guard up instead of slip, bobbing or jabbing out. kudos that me for that habit

Domey
12-27-2009, 02:50 AM
Sorry man, but you were throwing a lot of arm punches. Take a look at the video again. Almost every hook you threw was majority an arm punch. You were not commiting with your punches, nor following through with them. Almost like you were throwing the second punch before the first one even landed.

Watch your hooks in your first video, then the ones in your second.

In the first video you commit. Your twisting your upper torso through the punch, your legs are pivoting(I assume judging how your body is), and you follow through.

In the second video, you are for the most part squared up and barely turn with your punches.

boxing_great
12-27-2009, 08:18 AM
have u been to a gym before, and trained and sparred or u've never been like somebody stated b4/

bernardotelo
12-27-2009, 09:57 AM
why do you hide your face after a combo? insted of looking down try puting the gloves in front of your face and look at your opponent (the bag in this case):doh:

Undefeated
12-27-2009, 10:51 AM
Domey provided very helpful info. Everything he stated was on the money.

Don't look down when you throw punches. I used to do that, but it deters you from countering while sparring. When you jab and throw a right hand.. Bring it back, but DON'T shell up. Someone who rushes you in a fight will elaborate on that.

Hope this helps.

Pacmanjay
12-28-2009, 01:14 AM
i dont arm punch. arm punching is very uncomfortable to do especially when i try to explain mechanics to someone who just doesnt understand about pivoting and such. i havent been doing much training for the last month because ive been lifting and my back and core and just overall muscle has gotten a lot stronger then before. also my membership just ended and its too damn expensive ($120 a month :lame:). so im thinking that especially with the added core strength it helps me go from say a left body hook to left head hook a lot faster then before because the reset on that punch engages a lot of core and the stronger your core is the faster and stronger you can throw your second hook. of course i understand about not standing there and letting my opponent get their shots in right after taking or defending mine. like the vid said i was just messin around and not trying to prepare myself for a smoker or anything like that. the little bit of actually visualizing i did was when i finish combos i bring both hands back to my head to defend. may not be the best way to do it and i could be more effective jabbing or and such but thats what i was just doing. also about halfway through i do throw a counter jab offa the bags jab lol but you cant see it because im in the way of my right hand slapping it down. even though freestanding bags are the worst at displaying ones power, unless you punch like mike tyson, even on a heavy bag you cant gauge someones power. only way you could is either holding mitts for them or getting hit by them.



dude, i don't think you made this video to accept criticism and try to learn from that advice. It just seems like you made this video to show off whatever little boxing skill you have. On a freaking kiddy stand up bag.

Oh yes you can gauge someones power by the way they hit their bag. You would know this if you've trained at a real boxing gym. The snap and sound of the impact of hard punchers is very noticable from weaker punchers. And in real gyms where don't use kiddy stand up bags you can also guage someone's power by how much they can move a real heavy bag by throwing snapping (not pushing) punches.


btw how much do u weigh?

FM3O
12-28-2009, 01:28 AM
LOL, looks like you really didn't get many comments you were looking for. Regardless of your boxing history, the reason you felt quicker and overall better was most likely because you were much more relaxed the second time through. In the second video, you look a lot looser, and a lot more relaxed, and that is huge when it comes to speed and power. You seem very decent for someone who hasn't been to a gym before. You should really get in one though and try it out! I hope that answers your question though, I believe that's part of the difference you noticed.

g0tcha
12-28-2009, 02:06 AM
LOL, looks like you really didn't get many comments you were looking for. Regardless of your boxing history, the reason you felt quicker and overall better was most likely because you were much more relaxed the second time through. In the second video, you look a lot looser, and a lot more relaxed, and that is huge when it comes to speed and power. You seem very decent for someone who hasn't been to a gym before. You should really get in one though and try it out! I hope that answers your question though, I believe that's part of the difference you noticed.

thanks for the comments. hmmm maybe i was a little loser im not sure heh. maybe because in the first vid i was really aiming to punch with everything i had and in the second i just hit it how i usually do and im just thinking speed and power and no so much just hit as hard as i can. ive trained in muay thai for a little bit but i cant continue to pay for the crazy monthly dues so im out of options at the moment. i just wish there were more boxing dedicated gyms out here in the bay area. the only one is third street gym and that place is just so far out of the way to get to at least for me.

Equilibrium
12-28-2009, 03:56 AM
i can box better than u, in fact u ain't even half my level fatass. :tragedy:
stop dreaming u are the next pacman because your just a hopeless fatpig. :bottle: :popcorn: :wave:

check this pigs video shadow boxing likes he's blowing crap out his ass and say he is the next pacquiao and he can beat hatton lol ****en pig. And he's out here posin like a somekind of a ****en expert when he's isn't good or halfway compared to an average beginer.

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Where is your video then?

You don't have one? Shut the **** up.

Mares
12-28-2009, 05:24 AM
Where is your video then?

You don't have one? Shut the **** up.
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here that is me, im the next pacquiao i can decapitate hatton :haha: what about u where is your video ***ot? btw im also a heavy weight type of pacquiao like 210lbs

Takamura!!!
12-28-2009, 05:34 AM
i can box better than u, in fact u ain't even half my level fatass. :tragedy:
stop dreaming u are the next pacman because your just a hopeless fatpig. :bottle: :popcorn: :wave:

check this pigs video shadow boxing likes he's blowing crap out his ass and say he is the next pacquiao and he can beat hatton lol ****en pig. And he's out here posin like a somekind of a ****en expert when he's isn't good or halfway compared to an average beginer.

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Is that really him? If so I can't help but say that's horrible, there's so many things wrong =/ at least he's trying

Mares
12-28-2009, 05:42 AM
Is that really him? If so I can't help but say that's horrible, there's so many things wrong =/ at least he's trying

yea, he's an expert on everything see how good he was :tragedy: he like to talk shyt on me but he aint even half my level and im just a beginer not even 1year into boxing.

Takamura!!!
12-28-2009, 05:47 AM
yea, he's an expert on everything see how good he was :tragedy: he like to talk shyt on me but he aint even half my level and im just a beginer not even 1year into boxing.

I'm loving the Sarcasm

Why does he talk **** about you anyway?

Mares
12-28-2009, 06:05 AM
probably because i was doing better than him, he got sorta envious he also uses some of his alts before to comment on himself saying hey listen u shud all look at this guy he really knows a lot and is good.
And i busted his alt maybe he got mad about that. :rofl:

Takamura!!!
12-28-2009, 06:08 AM
Hahaha wow.. sounds really sad, and funny.

Could you post a vid of yourself? I'm not doubting you or anything just kinda curious:boxing:

Mares
12-28-2009, 06:17 AM
i have posted vidz here like eveymonth since i started boxin, imma try to upload some shadowbox vid i don't even feel like doing it now, so just a relaxed laid back shadowbox vid imma make.

Kiid Dynamite
12-28-2009, 06:35 AM
Do all filipinos try box like pac now.. ^^^^ the 2 vids posted by other uses tryna copy pac lol

thread starter - you got decent technique but there doesnt seem to be a good base from ur legs. everything is just from above. try get more leverage by bending ur legs


sitting down on ur punches ^^^

Takamura!!!
12-28-2009, 06:36 AM
i have posted vidz here like eveymonth since i started boxin, imma try to upload some shadowbox vid i don't even feel like doing it now, so just a relaxed laid back shadowbox vid imma make.

my bad didn't realize you posted your vids on here. I'm just a little new here and i don't get on much lol. Good luck on your Boxing Training btw

Mares
12-28-2009, 06:40 AM
Do all filipinos try box like pac now.. ^^^^ the 2 vids posted by other uses tryna copy pac lol

thread starter - you got decent technique but there doesnt seem to be a good base from ur legs. everything is just from above. try get more leverage by bending ur legs


sitting down on ur punches ^^^

im pinoy and i don't try to be like pac or anything like him, that video i posted was not me lol it was the ***ot who thinks he is the next pacquiao.

Dynamite Kid
12-28-2009, 06:56 AM
was super bored so i decided to go hit the bag for a few minutes and after a min or 2 i started to speed up and i felt a little wierd. i threw my favorite combo out there and it felt a little off not in a bad way. i felt like i was flowing through it faster and stronger. let me know what you think.

combination @ 40 seconds in this video
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compared to the new one here
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You are fighting too square on imo, that is going to take the pop off your right hand. Also if you watch the second video, watch how you back up in a straight line after finishing up your combo.

If your on a rail way line and a train is coming toward you whats the best thing to do go straight back or step off the line?

Mares
12-28-2009, 06:58 AM
Hahaha wow.. sounds really sad, and funny.

Could you post a vid of yourself? I'm not doubting you or anything just kinda curious:boxing:

here just newly uploaded just a relaxed loosed shadowboxin. :beerchug:

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Domey
12-28-2009, 08:25 AM
Seems like almost every thread has the same people arguing about the same damn thing non stop. It is lame, old, tiring, and just shows how immature people are. Quit hijacking threads where people are posting asking for feedback about them, and making into a pissing contest about how this guy sucks and who can beat who up.

Hell, half of you haven't even had a real fight, be real.

Main Source
12-28-2009, 09:13 AM
I'm really missing a lot of movement. Move around the bag, move around after you've throwed. Your bag is your opponent and you can't stand in front of it - especially not with your head down after throwing a combination.

And when you finally do move you don't, ever, move away from your opponent in a straight line. Step to the side.

I can't really see your legs in the video put it really looks like you don't put your legs into it when you throw your hooks. You have to punch through the bag.

Kiid Dynamite
12-28-2009, 09:27 AM
Seems like almost every thread has the same people arguing about the same damn thing non stop. It is lame, old, tiring, and just shows how immature people are. Quit hijacking threads where people are posting asking for feedback about them, and making into a pissing contest about how this guy sucks and who can beat who up.

Hell, half of you haven't even had a real fight, be real.

whose taking the piss?

its positive criticism that should help to become a better fighter..

if the poster cant handle that, he shouldnt have posted the vid up on here.

Domey
12-28-2009, 06:03 PM
whose taking the piss?

its positive criticism that should help to become a better fighter..

if the poster cant handle that, he shouldnt have posted the vid up on here.

Maybe you should read my post again =)

I am referring to the children that come into these post, replying to other people who have posted with suggestions/comments, to bash them saying they don't have a clue and can't fight and blah blah blah. In-which the pissing contest continues with who is better then who and all this other retarded immature bull****.

Stay on topic, and quit hijacking threads.

boxing_great
12-28-2009, 11:44 PM
everybody suddenly becomes an expert when giving comments.

thatjamaicanguy
12-29-2009, 01:02 AM
everybody suddenly becomes an expert when giving comments.


well said my friend, well said

Takamura!!!
12-29-2009, 03:31 AM
everybody suddenly becomes an expert when giving comments.

i'm no expert but this guy is arm punching a lot and not following through, also looks like he aint using legs. The other guys were right, this guy doesn't really look like he's ever trained in a gym before.

Domey
12-29-2009, 12:44 PM
i'm no expert but this guy is arm punching a lot and not following through, also looks like he aint using legs. The other guys were right, this guy doesn't really look like he's ever trained in a gym before.

I believe the poster said he has never been to an actual gym before. With that in mind and him being his only trainer, he has done fairly well.


everybody suddenly becomes an expert when giving comments.

Never claimed to be an expert, I just relay information and advice based on experience. I have been down the gym pretty much my entire life, started actually training at 7, and had my first fight at 8(I am 25).

If you do not think those were arm punches, elaborate please. Because I saw zero twist in the hips or shoulders, nor very much movement in the legs.

IBox85
12-29-2009, 07:36 PM
the double hook (body to head) was pretty much arm punches... the second hook especially... you wanna keep that chin tucked and that right hand tucked... and u got the tendancy to bounce straight back after combinations... if it were a sparring match u might get hit by a straight right with ease... u look like ur putting everything in ur punches which i feel is a positive thing... ur also pretty stationary... no pivioting or anything...a lil flat footed in my oponion... get used to staying on ur toes and bouncing around... with a good coach u can change all that... im am not an expert by the way... just somebody that thinks that they r lol

Hook00513z
01-01-2010, 01:37 PM
quit callin ppl fatass, are you ****ing gay?what the **** is wrong with being fat

do you see mike tyson now?he was like that as a kid, so being fat means you can hold weight. if youre 200lbs of fat, and you work out, im pretty sure you can replace it with 200lbs of muscle


i think youre jealous because youre ****ing 120pound skinny fool