View Full Version : "Obesity is a-OK", says America's restaurants


Bombardier
04-26-2005, 09:46 AM
The hilarious part here is that, despite what you think of the study, the upshot of the advertising is that it's somehow okay to stuff yourself full of fatty restaurant food until you get huge.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7633701/

Ad blitz dismisses obesity threat as 'hype'

Center for Consumer Freedom spent $600,000 on ads

LOS ANGELES - A group backed by the U.S. food and restaurant industries Monday launched an advertising campaign aimed at dismissing as hype concerns about the large number of obese Americans.

The full-page ads in major U.S. newspapers were inspired by new government data questioning government assertions that obesity causes nearly as many deaths as smoking, according to the Center for Consumer Freedom, which paid for the ads.

The group, based in Washington, does not disclose names of its donors, though spokesman Mike Burita said casual dining restaurant chains “are predominant sources of funding for us.”

A spokesman for Darden Restaurants Inc., the nation’s largest casual dining company and owner of the Red Lobster and Olive Garden chains, could not say whether Darden was among contributors to the group.

Applebee’s International Inc., another major casual dining chain, also could not say whether it contributes to the group, a spokeswoman said.

The group spent about $600,000 on the ads, which appeared Monday in the New York Times, Washington Post, Atlanta Journal-Constitution, USA Today and the Chicago Tribune. Ads are also to run in Newsweek magazine and on billboards in the Washington-area metro system.

The campaign, Burita said, was sparked by new statistics from the National Center for Health Statistics, a unit of the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, that contradict previous findings from the CDC that obesity was catching up to heart disease as a major cause of death in the United States.

The CDC has said that smoking kills 435,000 Americans a year and that obesity kills close to 400,000 annually. But the NCHS report issued last week cuts that number by 75 percent.

Since it was published last year, the CDC’s 400,000 figure has been cited in media reports regarding the impact of obesity on everything from healthcare costs to diets.

At the same time, U.S. food and restaurant companies have faced increased criticism from health and nutrition advocates who blame foods high in fat and sugar for contributing to what critics have called a nationwide obesity epidemic.

The Center for Consumer Freedom hopes the ads will capture the attention of lawmakers and the CDC.

“We’re putting pressure on the leadership of the CDC, who has still not endorsed this new figure,” Burita said.

CDC spokesman Tom Skinner, who said he has seen the ad, said the CDC was not wrong a year ago.

“All the science around computing mortality associated with obesity is still evolving. If you look at the papers and try to compare them, you really can’t do that,” Skinner said.

He said it was more important to look at obesity-associated illness and disability. “It is a well-known fact that obesity is also contributing to other well-known leading causes of death including cancer and diabetes,” Skinner said.

Burita said his group wants some perspective. “Obesity is certainly a genuine problem. But when genuine problems become political issues they tend to become exaggerated, as this has,” he said.

neils7147933
04-26-2005, 09:50 AM
Fat people who eat fast food don't care that it's not healthy. Skinny people who eat fast food aren't worried about getting fat.

This whole new "hey - fast food is bad for you" think is a tad silly; it's like in the 1950s where they claimed they didn't know smoking was bad - how could it not be?

Smoking will never die and neither will eating **** you probably shouldn't. I don't eat much traditional fast food anymore - I'll order pizza, a sandwich or pasta from local businesses, and I'll have Long John Silver's once a month or so - but I think I've lost my taste for McDonald's, Hardee's, Wendy's, etc.

But the new health craze the media is trying to portray is far from accurate - at least with people I know and see every day...

czars_salad
04-26-2005, 10:00 AM
everything taken in large amount is bad. there's nothing wrong in patronizing fastfood products but the amount food intake has to be the best responsibility of the customer

Bombardier
04-26-2005, 10:31 AM
everything taken in large amount is bad. there's nothing wrong in patronizing fastfood products but the amount food intake has to be the best responsibility of the customer

But the point of the advertising campaign is that it's okay to be obese. I think that's pretty funny/scary.

tino
04-26-2005, 02:27 PM
obesity may be ok in the US , but in most european countries , especially france and italia , being obese youre out of society ,nobody would talk to ya and you wont find a job . obeses are ruled crippled people in france and receive money from the state .

fist-of-fury
04-26-2005, 03:11 PM
But the point of the advertising campaign is that it's okay to be obese. I think that's pretty funny/scary.


And I suppose it's likewise ok and cool to have obesity-related afflictions like cardiovascular diseases and diabetes? I think it's more scary than funny!

Whenever a person is way above his ideal weight, in proportion to his height/build and age, then he's in trouble one way or another. :eek:

Mr. Beelzebub
04-26-2005, 03:15 PM
They should put armrests in every single chair in restaurants... It would be funny as **** to watch fat ****ers trying to squeeze their big asses into those chairs.

Fat people suck hairy yambag.

Bombardier
04-26-2005, 03:16 PM
And I suppose it's likewise ok and cool to have obesity-related afflictions like cardiovascular diseases and diabetes? I think it's more scary than funny!

Whenever a person is way above his ideal weight, in proportion to his height/build and age, then he's in trouble one way or another. :eek:

Yeah, it's crazy. They seem to be using this one report to justify people going to their restaurants and spending so much money on food that they get gigantic. It's so ridiculous it's like a bad satire of capitalism gone wild.

BadMagick
04-26-2005, 03:18 PM
Fat people who eat fast food don't care that it's not healthy. Skinny people who eat fast food aren't worried about getting fat.

This whole new "hey - fast food is bad for you" think is a tad silly; it's like in the 1950s where they claimed they didn't know smoking was bad - how could it not be?

Smoking will never die and neither will eating **** you probably shouldn't. I don't eat much traditional fast food anymore - I'll order pizza, a sandwich or pasta from local businesses, and I'll have Long John Silver's once a month or so - but I think I've lost my taste for McDonald's, Hardee's, Wendy's, etc.

But the new health craze the media is trying to portray is far from accurate - at least with people I know and see every day...


That first paragraph couldn't be more true. It's the middle of the road people that care, or the dumbasses. Like those idiots on low-carb diets...

BadMagick
04-26-2005, 03:19 PM
obesity may be ok in the US , but in most european countries , especially france and italia , being obese youre out of society ,nobody would talk to ya and you wont find a job . obeses are ruled crippled people in france and receive money from the state .

Are you serious, or just messing around? That's insane if it's true. They shouldn't be given ANYTHING. On the contrary, everything should be taken from them, so the fat ****s lose some weight.

Bombardier
04-26-2005, 03:21 PM
That first paragraph couldn't be more true. It's the middle of the road people that care, or the dumbasses. Like those idiots on low-carb diets...

Man the low-carb people kill me. It's like, people don't just want to face up to the fact that they should stop stuffing their faces if they want to lose weight. And now we have hordes of people shoving red meat down their throats because some dead doctor told them to. And then all of us will be paying for their heart surgeries through our health insurance. *******s.

fist-of-fury
04-26-2005, 03:23 PM
They should put armrests in every single chair in restaurants... It would be funny as **** to watch fat ****ers trying to squeeze their big asses into those chairs.

Fat people suck hairy yambag.

Ha-ha! It would be like one of the hilarious scenes in SHALLOW HAL!! :p

Er, what's a hairy yambag :confused:

Mr. Beelzebub
04-26-2005, 03:28 PM
Er, what's a hairy yambag :confused:

It's a NYC thing, I guess... I think even Dice Clay use to say that **** all the time.(You might not even know who Andrew Dice is)

God I feel like a Grandpa everytime I post here.

Yambag = nutsack

RwK
04-26-2005, 03:37 PM
Man the low-carb people kill me. It's like, people don't just want to face up to the fact that they should stop stuffing their faces if they want to lose weight. And now we have hordes of people shoving red meat down their throats because some dead doctor told them to. And then all of us will be paying for their heart surgeries through our health insurance. *******s.


You know what is funny......people who go on low carb diets have this weird Idea they will reshape thier body LOL. That is so untrue. All you will do, is starve youself and become a thinner version of your fat self......If you have man taters, you will be skinny and have man taters.

People need to lift weights. You can eat whatever the **** you want, and it will all go towards building muscle mass. If people were not so ****ing lazy....there would not be any fat people whatsoever.

Hence all this *****ing about "Fad Diets" and "Obesity". Dickheads cant even do 10 pushups.....and they ***** about it. If you are fat, you are fat. so ****ing what. if you dont like it......blow all your money on lipho or some other ridiculous weight loss technique.

neils7147933
04-26-2005, 04:13 PM
It's a NYC thing, I guess... I think even Dice Clay use to say that **** all the time.(You might not even know who Andrew Dice is)

God I feel like a Grandpa everytime I post here.

Yambag = nutsack

So the other day I'm licking this girl's ******* out. And she's all like "Why you always gotta lick my *******?" And I say "Because your ***** taste like ****!"

http://www.stressfactory.com/comics/clay.jpg

leff
04-26-2005, 06:15 PM
obesity may be ok in the US , but in most european countries , especially france and italia , being obese youre out of society ,nobody would talk to ya and you wont find a job . obeses are ruled crippled people in france and receive money from the state .

i know it aint that bad, but the thing i never will understand about France is that they are few fat people and that health is good even if they do eat much fat, smoke much and drink very big amounts of alcohol.


it was about in the papers some time back.

tino
04-26-2005, 06:47 PM
i know it aint that bad, but the thing i never will understand about France is that they are few fat people and that health is good even if they do eat much fat, smoke much and drink very big amounts of alcohol.


it was about in the papers some time back.

that because food is so important to pepole that they will never eat anything unhealthy. few people go to mcdonald , and sometimes the mcdonalds get burned down by an angry mob because they see it as "bad food " (no kidding it happends often)

plus wine have proven virtues on heart diseases , at low levels .

hell , im drinking wine as i am typing

phallus
04-26-2005, 10:00 PM
Yeah, it's crazy. They seem to be using this one report to justify people going to their restaurants and spending so much money on food that they get gigantic. It's so ridiculous it's like a bad satire of capitalism gone wild.



the economy depends on that ****, overeating is BIG BUSINESS, dude

Bombardier
04-26-2005, 10:31 PM
the economy depends on that ****, overeating is BIG BUSINESS, dude

Yeah, you're absolutely right. But usually at least they're a little more subtle about it in their advertising. neils had a good point about the "healthy eating" trend that you hear about so much right now. I think that it's all phoney as well. The thing is that I think that the fast food places want to convey a more positive image without actually changing people's eating habits. So like, by showing healthy food and fit people on TV people will think that McDonald's is a swell place, which will make them want to go there more often. But when they're there, they still see the giant photos of juicy hamburgers and **** and they order that instead. It's more like a propaganda campaign than it is a genuine attempt to get people to eat better.

phallus
04-26-2005, 10:43 PM
Yeah, you're absolutely right. But usually at least they're a little more subtle about it in their advertising. neils had a good point about the "healthy eating" trend that you hear about so much right now. I think that it's all phoney as well. The thing is that I think that the fast food places want to convey a more positive image without actually changing people's eating habits. So like, by showing healthy food and fit people on TV people will think that McDonald's is a swell place, which will make them want to go there more often. But when they're there, they still see the giant photos of juicy hamburgers and **** and they order that instead. It's more like a propaganda campaign than it is a genuine attempt to get people to eat better.



yeah, everytime i see a commercial for McD's i think about that doctor in super size me, sayin " you're gonna die " ...the whole healthy eating craze is all a big scam, just like everything else, the corporations just want to get all our money before they kill us

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
04-26-2005, 11:19 PM
The fast food itself might not be so bad but the combinations and lack of restraing of certain people is what gives it such a bad name.

For example some people like to eat InNout Double double with cheese, frys, and milkshake instead of soda. (Yuk i bet u can actually feel urself getting fatter)

According to some online info that is over 1500 calories right there. Those people still go on to eat big meals later on and amass well over the 2000 calories.

Konstantin
04-26-2005, 11:25 PM
Yea there are a lot of obese people in America. The thing is because if your just a lil skinny your classified as skinny and if your a lil pudgy your normal/healthy/a growing boy.

Another scary thing is the people who are pencil thin and going on the lowcarb diets and **** like that. There are also a lot of beleimic girls...

phallus
04-26-2005, 11:42 PM
The fast food itself might not be so bad but the combinations and lack of restraing of certain people is what gives it such a bad name.

For example some people like to eat InNout Double double with cheese, frys, and milkshake instead of soda. (Yuk i bet u can actually feel urself getting fatter)

According to some online info that is over 1500 calories right there. Those people still go on to eat big meals later on and amass well over the 2000 calories.


over 1500 cal at the In and Out Burger? :D a lazy fatass who just sits around all day will only burn 2000 cal in an entire day, an extremely active ( athlete ) can burn up to 3200 cal in a single day. eating 2000 cal 3 or 4 times a day per meal is a lot of ****ing fat dudes, combine that with a six pack of beer every night and u grow into one fat mother****er

neils7147933
05-10-2005, 01:03 AM
http://img165.echo.cx/img165/6404/toomanye1qb.jpg

joeboxer
05-10-2005, 01:32 AM
Me and my friend went to In and Out and both got 20 by 20's.

I threw up half way through. But he ate the whole ****ing thing. His is a legitmate 300 pound guy, so he could handle it pretty easily.

I wonder how many calories that was.


He also said he didn't **** for 3 days after.

Ranger2408
05-10-2005, 08:01 AM
http://img165.echo.cx/img165/6404/toomanye1qb.jpg
"When i grow up i want to advertise Tires like that michelin guy, mommy!"

Crazy, a world gone mad, business men so intent on driving their stock levels they dont care about the people that eat their products.

The Troll
05-10-2005, 04:53 PM
There is noting better than going out for lunch at a decent diner and getting a nice 1/2 pound hamburger with a side of fries, a dill pickle and beer. Nothing better as far as lunches are concerned.

Anybody that thinks all Americans are fat are just retards. At least around here not that many people I see are obese. Its easy to lose weigh these days you just buy those pills and loose like 5 pounds a day at the expense of your heart.

PBDS
05-10-2005, 06:43 PM
There is noting better than going out for lunch at a decent diner and getting a nice 1/2 pound hamburger with a side of fries, a dill pickle and beer. Nothing better as far as lunches are concerned.

Anybody that thinks all Americans are fat are just retards. At least around here not that many people I see are obese. Its easy to lose weigh these days you just buy those pills and loose like 5 pounds a day at the expense of your heart.



.....Dude, you have been 21 like a month. What the hell would you know about nothing better than going to a diner and having a beer with your burger? You make it sound like you have been doing it for years. Don't even try the fake ID thing because you look like your 16-17 tops. So what gives man? Either your not the guy in your pick and your not that age and your full of **** or you are that guy in the pic and you wouldn't know jack **** about having a beer in a nice diner and your still full of ****. So which is it??

neils7147933
05-11-2005, 09:11 AM
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2005/fat_tax.html

Detroit Proposes Fat Tax

Consumer Affairs | May 9, 2005

It had to happen sooner or later: a fat tax. With concerns about obesity growing, and the independent film "Supersize Me" gaining near-cult status, Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick says now may be the time to put an extra tax on fast food.

The money would certainly come in handy. Detroit is grappling with a $300 million budget deficit and Kilpatrick believes a two percent fast food tax would help fill city coffers while making consumers think twice before downing so much unhealthy fast food.

Taxes on restaurant meals are nothing new. Many municipalities levy a "prepared meals tax" on top of state sales tax to supplement local tax revenue. But what Detroit is considering goes a step farther.

The National Restaurant Association, a Washington lobbying group for the restaurant industry, says this would be the first time a specific type of restaurant has been singled out for taxation. The tax would apply to any fast food restaurant product, even a cup of coffee.

Critics charge the proposed tax is unfair, since young people and the elderly -- two groups at the lower end of the economic scale -- tend to be the most frequent fast food customers. They point out it's highly unlikely it could ever be enacted, since it would require the state legislature to amend the tax law and would need the approval of Detroit voters, who may not be ready to give up their Big Macs and Whoppers.

The Troll
05-11-2005, 11:12 AM
.....Dude, you have been 21 like a month. What the hell would you know about nothing better than going to a diner and having a beer with your burger? You make it sound like you have been doing it for years. Don't even try the fake ID thing because you look like your 16-17 tops. So what gives man? Either your not the guy in your pick and your not that age and your full of **** or you are that guy in the pic and you wouldn't know jack **** about having a beer in a nice diner and your still full of ****. So which is it??

PBDS do you have any other purpose on this forum other than to follow me around and try slag me off on everything I say no matter what the content matter is.

I never see you post except when it is in negative reference to me. Seriously, you have a prolbem, you have an obsession with me. it scares me because it is quite homo-erotic I think this obsession you have with me.

phallus
05-11-2005, 06:51 PM
Me and my friend went to In and Out and both got 20 by 20's.

I threw up half way through. But he ate the whole ****ing thing. His is a legitmate 300 pound guy, so he could handle it pretty easily.

I wonder how many calories that was.


He also said he didn't **** for 3 days after.



ha ha, u should have went to McD's, that stuff ( whatever it is ) goes right through u. less than 2 hours after consuming a meal at Rotten Ron's i promise u'll be sittin on the pot, squeezin out a big log

neils7147933
05-11-2005, 06:54 PM
there's a restaurant a few miles from my town that features a 72 oz. burger...

phallus
05-11-2005, 06:57 PM
there's a restaurant a few miles from my town that features a 72 oz. burger...



probably with extra - extra large fries, a 3 gallon milkshake and a chocolate covered pretzel :D

neils7147933
05-11-2005, 07:08 PM
it's one of those deals where I think they put your picture on the wall if you actually can finish it. I don't know how long they've done it; maybe they were inspired by John Candy in The Great Outdoors?

phallus
05-11-2005, 07:10 PM
it's one of those deals where I think they put your picture on the wall if you actually can finish it. I don't know how long they've done it; maybe they were inspired by John Candy in The Great Outdoors?



how many pics are on the wall besides James toney's and big george foreman's? i guess marlon brando's might be there too

neils7147933
05-11-2005, 07:29 PM
how many pics are on the wall besides James toney's and big george foreman's? i guess marlon brando's might be there too

me and Sweet Dick Willy's are the only other ones you'd recognize...

But not me anymore - I'm officially dieting. I didn't want to be an attention whore and start a thread about it - but "atypical chest pains leading to an ER visit" have me eating carrots and cottage cheese and **** and walking a few miles a day.

I've lost 6.5 lbs in 5 days; I'll be a bantamweight at this rate by August...

phallus
05-11-2005, 07:35 PM
me and Sweet Dick Willy's are the only other ones you'd recognize...

But not me anymore - I'm officially dieting. I didn't want to be an attention whore and start a thread about it - but "atypical chest pains leading to an ER visit" have me eating carrots and cottage cheese and **** and walking a few miles a day.

I've lost 6.5 lbs in 5 days; I'll be a bantamweight at this rate by August...



don't lose it too fast, u'll have lots of sagging skin left over. i knew a guy who when we were in high school he was easily 350 lbs ( even stretched over his 6 ft tall frame that's ****ing fat ). when he was 26 he was eating breakfast in a greasy diner and started feeling chest pains. it scared him so much he went from a guy who'd eat anything to a guy who takes the skin off chicken. he lost over a hundred pounds, in fact for a while he got down to about 170 ( no one recognized him ) but he looked so skinny it was unhealthy so i think now he keeps himself around 220