View Full Version : Cintron Big Puncher With No Heart?


KYTFO
04-24-2005, 03:31 AM
I AM A BIG SUPPORTER OF CINTRON. BUT I HAVE TO SAY I LOST ALOT OF RESPECT AFTER THE MARGARITO FIGHT.MAYBE TOO MUCH TOO SOON?BUT THIS IS BOXING. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO BE CHAMP .YOU HAVE TO GO OUT AND GET IT! WHERE DOES HE GO FROM HERE? AND DO THINK HE'LL BE THE SAME FIGHTER AFTER THIS CONFIDENCE SHATTERING LOSS? LET ME KNOW GUYS MUCH APPRECIATED :boxing:

El Jesus
04-24-2005, 04:19 AM
i didint lose all respect for him because hes still young and unlike fernando vargas i didint see him talking all big and then getting humiliated, he got humiliated in a humble manner, its not over for him. I wouldnt say he has no heart just yet, just wasnt ready.

Shaolin Bushido
04-24-2005, 06:58 AM
Didn't see it but he didnt't quit or anything did he? I heard he was kd several times. ****, getting up from a hard shot to continue fighting shows heart if nothin else!

the giant one
04-24-2005, 08:02 AM
I AM A BIG SUPPORTER OF CINTRON. BUT I HAVE TO SAY I LOST ALOT OF RESPECT AFTER THE MARGARITO FIGHT.MAYBE TOO MUCH TOO SOON?BUT THIS IS BOXING. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO BE CHAMP .YOU HAVE TO GO OUT AND GET IT! WHERE DOES HE GO FROM HERE? AND DO THINK HE'LL BE THE SAME FIGHTER AFTER THIS CONFIDENCE SHATTERING LOSS? LET ME KNOW GUYS MUCH APPRECIATED :boxing:

Its a learning experince for a young guy firstly.I thought Kermits best chance was going to be early as Margarito is a notoriously slow starter. Kermit didnt take advantage there and you see the result. Secondly how did he show no heart? Like my friend Shao said he got cut pretty good and did take some nasty shots from a top 5 welterweight. He could have taken the easy rout and kept on fighting 2nd tier guys but he stepped up to the best and got schooled. He will learn from this and be a better fighter in the long run. Big ups to Kermit for a game effort

Duncan
04-24-2005, 10:15 AM
Its a learning experince for a young guy firstly.I thought Kermits best chance was going to be early as Margarito is a notoriously slow starter. Kermit didnt take advantage there and you see the result. Secondly how did he show no heart? Like my friend Shao said he got cut pretty good and did take some nasty shots from a top 5 welterweight. He could have taken the easy rout and kept on fighting 2nd tier guys but he stepped up to the best and got schooled. He will learn from this and be a better fighter in the long run. Big ups to Kermit for a game effort
You're right, he got schooled. He also looked back to his corner like a scared pup to get them to stop the fight. Things weren't going the way poor little wittle Kermit wanted. He got a cut...wahhhh!....he got knocked down...wahhhh!....he quit and he has little heart.

Here he was on the biggest stage of his career fighting a guy who can get hurt and Cintron decided he had enough after getting slapped around pretty good for a couple of rounds. There, in front of thousands of people, he wussed out. Would he have won if he had continued? Very unlikely. Would he have retained his dignity if he went out with some balls? Yes.

I don't want to hear "why risk injury?" or "its not worth it" arguments from his camp either. If you don't want to risk injury, get into another business, not one where the object is to punch another man in the face. Don't freaking quit and then bawl like a little baby after its done. Poor wittle Kermit.....b**tch.

He's gutless, he's a disgrace, and he wasted my money.

TyrantT316
04-24-2005, 10:22 AM
I think he is just young and emotional...I think back to him crying hard during emotional victories...so to be beaten like that, he broke down...

some guys just handle things differently guys...doesn't mean he has NO heart...everytime he got up from a knockdown, he tried to land power punches and combinations...but Margarito was just too good for him...

this is a learning experience and good for him now to realize that he has to do more if his power isn't working

JOM'S
04-24-2005, 10:54 AM
i did not see the fight but i think he should re-build from this experience and try to be a better fighter in the future ...

anybody know when the fight will be up for dl?

BBFM
04-24-2005, 03:23 PM
hes a joke! :D ahahaha

m00ks
04-24-2005, 03:51 PM
He didn't quit, he just panicked and didn't no what to do anymore. Afetr you go down 5 times, who wouldn't be discouraged, specially if your use dto knocking out your opponents left and right. This loss can only be good for him.

abdiel2k3
04-24-2005, 03:57 PM
nah
he may have heart
its just that he was gettin his ass handed to him by margarito
i could see alot of guys wantin out

m00ks
04-24-2005, 04:01 PM
nah
he may have heart
its just that he was gettin his ass handed to him by margarito
i could see alot of guys wantin out

yep,he was mentally unprepared. He knew he was going to get knocked out and there was nothing he can do about it.

SuckaPunch
04-24-2005, 04:05 PM
I feel really bad for Cintron after watching the fight, I was rooting for him and all. Margarito was just a monster, like Aaron Pryor, "Imma take your best punches and spit it out ur face!". Now, I'm not sure which one is true: (a) Is Cintron a really big puncher OR (b) Margarito just possesses a very good chin.

Some people say that Cintron's stock will go up after this fight showing heart and all. As much as I like Cintron, I totally disagree. Besides heart, you gotta show some skills. He was just totally outmatched.

Now back to Margarito, he may get respect now after all but if you look at him, there's something lacking. I don't know what is it really. I don't think he's gonna have a big fan base despite this dominant performance. Tony may have the skills but he just doesn't look like a fighter that fight fans would go crazy about.

abdiel2k3
04-24-2005, 04:08 PM
I was rooting for him and all.

with that guy in ur avtar and sig
why am i not surpirsed u were rooten for cintron

Tha Greatest
04-24-2005, 04:11 PM
I feel really bad for Cintron after watching the fight, I was rooting for him and all. Margarito was just a monster, like Aaron Pryor, "Imma take your best punches and spit it out ur face!". Now, I'm not sure which one is true: (a) Is Cintron a really big puncher OR (b) Margarito just possesses a very good chin.

Some people say that Cintron's stock will go up after this fight showing heart and all. As much as I like Cintron, I totally disagree. Besides heart, you gotta show some skills. He was just totally outmatched.

Now back to Margarito, he may get respect now after all but if you look at him, there's something lacking. I don't know what is it really. I don't think he's gonna have a big fan base despite this dominant performance. Tony may have the skills but he just doesn't look like a fighter that fight fans would go crazy about.
Cintron didnt catch him with to many flush punches

Don't forget the body punches Margarito landed on Cintron
Cintron does got a chin..

mic573
04-24-2005, 04:15 PM
Cintron didnt catch him with to many flush punches

Don't forget the body punches Margarito landed on Cintron
Cintron does got a chin..

I thought Cintron caught Margarito with enough flush punches to know that he couldn't hurt him. Cintron's power is good no doubt but it's not the massive power that everyone thought it was. It's kind of like Jeff Lacy's power. Everyone thought Lacy was some monster puncher until he stepped up his competition. Both of thier punching power looked destructive against B and C level no chin fighters but since stepping up the power is still good but not as destructive.

abdiel2k3
04-24-2005, 04:19 PM
I thought Cintron caught Margarito with enough flush punches to know that he couldn't hurt him. Cintron's power is good no doubt but it's not the massive power that everyone thought it was. It's kind of like Jeff Lacy's power. Everyone thought Lacy was some monster puncher until he stepped up his competition. Both of thier punching power looked destructive against B and C level no chin fighters but since stepping up the power is still good but not as destructive.
true
thier power was a good magic trick
but nothin more

jack_the_rippuh
04-24-2005, 04:30 PM
Borikua, your boy got whupped..

IwatchBoxing
04-24-2005, 04:34 PM
Cintrons more on David Estrada's level now.

borikua
04-24-2005, 04:34 PM
Borikua, your boy got whupped..

yeah man, he got whupped, but maybe at the end it will be good for him, he's still young...IMO he needs to get a good trainer and a few more fights b4 going again against someone like Margarito, props to Margarito and ESPN..

abdiel2k3
04-24-2005, 04:34 PM
Cintrons more on David Estrada's level now.
ya right
estrades a top guy
lmao

jack_the_rippuh
04-24-2005, 04:36 PM
Lol @ the sig..


Trinidad should keep the hair.
He kind of looks like a voodoo man with it.

IwatchBoxing
04-24-2005, 04:38 PM
ya right
estrades a top guy
lmao
A top what? Before the Mosley fight he was a Showtime fighter, and thats it.

SuckaPunch
04-24-2005, 04:39 PM
with that guy in ur avtar and sig
why am i not surpirsed u were rooten for cintron

With a face like, I wouldn't be surprised if you're a street crack vendor in Tijuana.

abdiel2k3
04-24-2005, 04:41 PM
A top what? Before the Mosley fight he was a Showtime fighter, and thats it.
lmao
i was joken

With a face like, why are you not selling crack in Tijuana?
maybe i should move to the filipines
sell stolen cigerettes
beat a couple chumps
get one good victory
get my whole nation behind me
then let them down
sounds like a plan too me
who wants to be my trainer
all ya gotta do is tell me to back fighters up and throw combinations

SuckaPunch
04-24-2005, 04:44 PM
lmao
i was joken


maybe i should move to the filipines
sell stolen cigerettes
beat a couple chumps
get one good victory
get my whole nation behind me
then let them down
sounds like a plan too me
who wants to be my trainer
all ya gotta do is tell me to back fighters up and throw combinations

This ****sucker's so stupid, I'm not even Filipino. The Pac nuthuggers in this forum will take care of you, hehe.

abdiel2k3
04-24-2005, 04:45 PM
This ****sucker's so stupid, I'm not even Filipino. The Pac nuthuggers in this forum will take care of you, hehe.
who the fuk said i thought u were filipino??
take care of me?
lmao
now im really scared
well if their as one dimensional as pac
i dont got much to worry bout

SuckaPunch
04-24-2005, 05:08 PM
with that guy in ur avtar and sig
why am i not surpirsed u were rooten for cintron

So what if Manny Pacquiao was on my avatar, what made you think that I would automatically root for Cintron???

I say keep you wise-ass comments off your momma's underwear before the dog's lick it coz they smell like burritos.

Duncan
04-24-2005, 05:49 PM
yep,he was mentally unprepared. He knew he was going to get knocked out and there was nothing he can do about it.
Then get knocked out. At least then he would have been trying. Do you think a young Morales, Trinidad, or even Vargas would have looked back to their corner like he was going to piss himself at that time? No they would have tried- and went out on their back if that's the way it had to be. Look at Vargas v. Trinidad- Vargas got drilled early and often in the first 30 seconds of the fight. But he fought on, put Trinidad down later and became a superstar even in losing. Fans pay to see you fight, not cry after quitting.

I respect your opinion, but we just disagree.

Hurlex
04-24-2005, 06:53 PM
maybe i should move to the filipines
sell stolen cigerettes
beat a couple chumps
get one good victory
get my whole nation behind me
then let them down
sounds like a plan too me
who wants to be my trainer
all ya gotta do is tell me to back fighters up and throw combinations[/QUOTE]

-----oh hahahaha..damn best burn i have herd in a lot of time (even if the guy was not filipino) hahahaahaha...
-----anyway..why do people feel sorry for cintron..this can only help him and its boxing you know when you step in their the risk your taking,he's not done but if he gets ko'ed/owned bad again he may be.

IwatchBoxing
04-24-2005, 06:58 PM
why do people feel sorry for cintron..this can only help him and its boxing you know when you step in their the risk your taking,he's not done but if he gets ko'ed/owned bad again he may be.
Oquendo, Ruiz, Trinidad(late in career tho, Hopkins), Cotto in one round, and Santos have been owned before, and their still around, all he got to do is learn from his mistakes, but he is almost over as a major player.

{BrownBomber}
04-24-2005, 07:03 PM
Then get knocked out. At least then he would have been trying. Do you think a young Morales, Trinidad, or even Vargas would have looked back to their corner like he was going to piss himself at that time? No they would have tried- and went out on their back if that's the way it had to be. Look at Vargas v. Trinidad- Vargas got drilled early and often in the first 30 seconds of the fight. But he fought on, put Trinidad down later and became a superstar even in losing. Fans pay to see you fight, not cry after quitting.

I respect your opinion, but we just disagree.

I cant take it anymore all people do is make excuses when a fighter loses. (Not everyone) I think Cintron got his ass handed to him, he hit Margarito flush and as hard as he could.He even got him with a couple of good combo's and Margarito took it like he usually takes punches and moved on to his fight plan.

It looked like Margarito was barely getting warmed up and about to start his attack when Cintron could take it anymore. I dont think it was a lack of anything he just fought a better guy.
It not a good sign when you have most of the advantages and still get killed. I dont see Cintron beating any other top guys, not now and not ever.
Like Duncan said a young Tito and A young Vargas never ever went out like this, and I thought they both fought tougher guys.

{BrownBomber}
04-24-2005, 07:05 PM
So what if Manny Pacquiao was on my avatar, what made you think that I would automatically root for Cintron???

I say keep you wise-ass comments off your momma's underwear before the dog's lick it coz they smell like burritos.

I think thats racist.
But who gives a **** about you your just a Manny fan.

.::EnRiQuE::.
04-24-2005, 07:12 PM
Cintron's *****. as soon as he got that cut he stopped fighting and went into survival mode. from the look on his face you could see he was asking his corner to stop the damn fight. he's a big disappointment

abdiel2k3
04-24-2005, 08:05 PM
So what if Manny Pacquiao was on my avatar, what made you think that I would automatically root for Cintron???

I say keep you wise-ass comments off your momma's underwear before the dog's lick it coz they smell like burritos.
becuz u obvioulsy like unskilled fighters with nothin but power
and what seems to be over rated power
since it got taken with ease by 2 of TJs finest

im sure where ur from
all the other lil retards would accept that as an insult
but wtf is it suppose to mean
lets kick it up anotch ok buddy
ill help ya
"ok vince just back him up and throw more combinations. i need more combinations, can ya give me more combinations?"

Atwa_66
04-24-2005, 08:12 PM
becuz u obvioulsy like unskilled fighters with nothin but power
and what seems to be over rated power
since it got taken with ease by 2 of TJs finest

im sure where ur from
all the other lil retards would accept that as an insult
but wtf is it suppose to mean
lets kick it up anotch ok buddy
ill help ya
"ok vince just back him up and throw more combinations. i need more combinations, can ya give me more combinations?"
AWWWWWWWW CRAZY VINCE JUST GOT SERVED

abdiel2k3
04-24-2005, 08:15 PM
AWWWWWWWW CRAZY VINCE JUST GOT SERVED
he did get served
and i didnt even bust out my robot yet

{BrownBomber}
04-24-2005, 09:09 PM
he did get served
and i didnt even bust out my robot yet
Oh ya check this out!

robot dance (http://www.killsometime.com/Video/video.asp?video=Robot-Dance)

abdiel2k3
04-24-2005, 09:14 PM
Oh ya check this out!

robot dance (http://www.killsometime.com/Video/video.asp?video=Robot-Dance)
dude....
i asked ya to keep that vid
i dont want everyone seeing me brake dancen