View Full Version : List Your Top 3 Heavyweights, Middleweights, Welterweights of All Time


The Stone Roses
12-21-2009, 08:26 AM
I'll List Mine

Heavyweights

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. George Foreman

Middleweights

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Harry Greb
3. Jake LaMotta

Welterweights

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Sugar Ray Leonard
3. Henry Armstrong

andrewcuff
12-21-2009, 08:54 AM
I'll List Mine

Heavyweights

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. George Foreman

Middleweights

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Harry Greb
3. Jake LaMotta

Welterweights

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Sugar Ray Leonard
3. Henry Armstrong

Agreed except for:

Middleweights

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Marvin Hagler
3. Carlos Monzon

Oselav
12-21-2009, 09:43 AM
H-Weights

Ali
Dempsey
Louis

M-Weights

Robinson
Monzon
Walker

W-Weights

Robinson
Leonard
Hearns

sonnyboyx2
12-21-2009, 10:08 AM
Heavy
1/. Ali
2/. Louis
3/. Holyfield

Middle
1/. Robinson
2/. Jones jr.
3/. Toney

Welter
1/. Robinson
2/. Hearns
3/. Leonard

Ziggy Stardust
12-21-2009, 10:13 AM
Heavy

1. Muhammed Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Jack Johnson


Middle

1. Ray Robinson
2. Bob Fitzsimmons
3. Marvin Hagler


Welter

1. Ray Robinson
2. Sam Langford
3. Henry Armstrong


Light

1. Roberto Duran
2. Benny Leonard
3. Pernell Whitaker


Poet

boxerca
12-21-2009, 10:46 AM
Heavyweights
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Jack Johnson

Middleweights
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Harry Greb
3. Marvin Hagler

Welterweights
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
1. Henry Armstrong
3. Sugar Ray Leonard

To me, it's a toss-up at welterweight between Robinson and Armstrong.

dans
12-21-2009, 10:47 AM
I'll List Mine

Heavyweights

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. George Foreman

Middleweights

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Harry Greb
3. Jake LaMotta

Welterweights

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Sugar Ray Leonard
3. Henry Armstrong

Pretty good.

I would say this though.

HW
1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Johnson

MW
1. Robinson
2. Hagler
3. Greb

WW
1. Robinson
2. Leonard
3. Napoles

JAB5239
12-21-2009, 01:51 PM
So far everyone has SRR as their top middleweight. I just don't see it. I rank him about 4 or 5 all time at 160. He p4p the greatest all time, but at middle I would rank Monzon, Hagler, Greb and maybe Hopkins ahead of him.

Slimey Limey
12-21-2009, 02:02 PM
Heavy

1-Ali
2-Marciano
3-Lennox

Middle

1-Lamotta
2-Greb
3-Monzon

Welter

1-Leonard
2-Leonard
3-Basilio
And soon Floyd after he wins his next fight innit.

JAB5239
12-21-2009, 02:06 PM
Heavy

1-Ali
2-Marciano
3-Lennox

Middle

1-Lamotta
2-Greb
3-Monzon

Welter

1-Leonard
2-Leonard
3-Basilio
And soon Floyd after he wins his next fight innit.

2 Leonards? Are you ranking Ray Leonard twice?
And how are you ranking Basilio at 147 higher than Robinson. We want reasons. Inquiring minds want to know.

cooper5
12-21-2009, 04:01 PM
Heavy
1.Ali
2.Louis
3.Holmes

Middle
1.Robinson
2.Monzon
3.Hagler

Welter
1.Robinson
2.Leonard
3.Armstrong

Oasis_Lad
12-21-2009, 04:08 PM
Heavyweights:

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Larry Holmes

Middleweights:

1. Marvin Hagler
2. Carlos Monzon
3. Sugar Ray Robinson

Welterweights:

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Sugar Ray Leonard

GJC
12-21-2009, 07:39 PM
Ali
Louis
Holmes

SRR
Greb
Langford

SRR
Armstrong
Napoles

At least that's my thoughts today :)

The_Demon
12-21-2009, 08:15 PM
HW
ali
louis
holmes


MW

hagler
greb
monzon

WW
robinson
leonard
armstrong

DeepSleep
12-21-2009, 08:22 PM
Take note I'm posting this based on boxers I have seen enough from to judge, If I haven't seen at least 5 or so fights I don't consider myself able to really give a fair assessment of a fighter. For example what good would my ranking of Greb be considering I have only seen one of his fights?

Heavyweights:
1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Holmes

- Not enough fights seen to comment on Jack Johnson(Only highlights)

Middleweights:
1. Hagler
2. Monzon
3. Hopkins

- Not enough fights seen from: Greb, LaMotta

Welterweights:

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Napoles
3. Sugar Ray Leonard

- Not enough fights seen from (Armstrong, Langford)

Also I agree with JAB5329, that I don't think SRR is top 3 at MW.

JAB5239
12-21-2009, 08:54 PM
Welterweights:

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Napoles
3. Sugar Ray Leonard.

Im surprised Emile Griffith hasn't got any shouts as a top 3 welter. Its arguable, but he's got to be in the top 5 or 6 at least.

Chex31
12-21-2009, 08:56 PM
Heavyweights
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Larry Holmes

Middleweights
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Marvin Hagler
3. Carlos Monzon

Welterweights
1. Sugar Ray Leonard
2. Thomas Hearns
3. Sugar Ray Robinson(havent seen any of him at WW, though people say he was great there too)

The Stone Roses
12-21-2009, 11:19 PM
Sugar Ray Robinson is the greatest Middleweight of All Time.....First of all...we're talking about a guy who was a natural Welterweight who moved up to Middleweight because there just wasn't any competition left for him in that division....so basically he was fighting men who were naturally bigger than him.....he was able to win the title years past his prime and defeat fighters like basillio and fullmer who were in their prime...5 time middleweight Champ (a record which hasn't been broken to this day), back when there was only 1 champion and 1 belt....so he defeated the Top Guy consistently....

Marvin Hagler couldn't deal with a guy who hadn't fought in 5 years, so that basically puts his greatness in perspective

Ray Robinson is the greatest Middleweight because of the fighters he defeated for the title, the manner in which he defeated them and his overall accomplishments in the division

Joey Giardello
12-22-2009, 12:19 AM
Heavyweights
Ali
Dempsey
Marciano

Middleweights
Monzon
La motta
Greb

Welterweights
Learnard
Robinson
Trinidad

JAB5239
12-22-2009, 02:27 AM
Sugar Ray Robinson is the greatest Middleweight of All Time.....First of all...we're talking about a guy who was a natural Welterweight who moved up to Middleweight because there just wasn't any competition left for him in that division....so basically he was fighting men who were naturally bigger than him..

I don't rank him the best middle based on dominance. Hagler, Monzon, Greb and to a lesser extent Hopkins were all more consistent as champ. I also don't buy into the reasoning that he was smaller than most of the middles he fought. Ray was actually a good size middleweight then, fighting at 5'11" and usually having the height advantage. Moving weight to weight back then was much different due to same day weigh ins and less weight classes. I believe he grew into middle just fine, though he was much more dominant at welter.

...he was able to win the title years past his prime and defeat fighters like basillio and fullmer who were in their prime...5 time middleweight Champ (a record which hasn't been broken to this day), back when there was only 1 champion and 1 belt....so he defeated the Top Guy consistently....

Fair enough. But by this logic he also lost to the top guys consistently. As I said, Greb, Monzon and Hagler were much more consistent.

Marvin Hagler couldn't deal with a guy who hadn't fought in 5 years, so that basically puts his greatness in perspective

It was only 3 years my friend. And you have to take into account that Leonard is one of the best fighters ever and Marvin was at the end of a long, distinguished career.

Ray Robinson is the greatest Middleweight because of the fighters he defeated for the title, the manner in which he defeated them and his overall accomplishments in the division


While I can respect your opinion, I still disagree.

RightCross94
12-22-2009, 05:41 AM
Heavy:

1.Ali
2.Louis
3.Holmes

Middle:
1.Hagler
2.Monzon
3.Robinson

(close call between Robinson and Hopkins for spot no.3, gave Robinson the benefit of the doubt)

Welter:

1.Robinson
2.Armstrong
3.Leonard

Kiid Dynamite
12-22-2009, 08:01 AM
Heavyweights

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Larry Holmes

Middleweights

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Bernard Hopkins
3. Carmen Basilio

Welterweights

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Sugar Ray Leonard

andrewcuff
12-22-2009, 10:11 AM
Heavyweights

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Larry Holmes

Middleweights

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Bernard Hopkins
3. Carmen Basilio

Welterweights

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Sugar Ray Leonard

Interesting choice of middleweights - no Hagler or Monzon?

them_apples
12-22-2009, 03:50 PM
HW:

Ali
Louis
Foreman

MW:

Hagler
Hopkins
Monzon


WW:
Robinson
SRL
Thomas Hearns