View Full Version : When is the best time to run


thatjamaicanguy
12-15-2009, 08:58 PM
morning, after school, or in the evening, what's the best time

i know boxers run in the morning, but i wanna know what you guys think

ScottDBA
12-15-2009, 09:21 PM
Run in the morning. Something about your metabolism and burning more calories if you run in the morning before you have food in you, plus if you're doing boxing training in the evening you want to have time to rest in between.

Cockfighter69
12-15-2009, 09:23 PM
Everyone has a different schedule so you have to find the right time to run. I can't run in the mornings so I run at night at a track for about 15 minutes. I run about a mile and a half every other day. It's a killer workout and you burn a lot of calories. Start off easy before you can eventually make your way up to a mile or mile and a half. Good luuck.

NYU Alum.
12-15-2009, 09:29 PM
When the body is in its anabolic state. There's 24 hours in a day, right. The body is in its anabolic state, when we're asleep, the moment we wake-up and the first 8 hrs of your day is your anabolic state. It's when things start to wind down, for most people it is in the late afternoon/after work, that's when we enter our catabolic/anabolic state.

Having said all that, the best time to workout(anaerobic or cardio) is the first 8 hours that we're awake. So, your individual anabolic state might vary from other people, again it depends when you wake-up. Most people get up at 6a.m. to get ready for work(that's their anabolic state), some people don't have to wake up till 2p.m(that's their anabolic state) to get ready for work.

To give you a better picture:

Let's say, you usually sleep between 10p.m. to 6a.m.(anabolic state)

The next 8 hrs from the time you wake up is considered being in the anabolic state as well.

Last 8 hrs of the day is considered our catabolic state.

HannibalTheKing
12-15-2009, 11:25 PM
That makes sense considering we use our energy/muscles during working periods and then enter catabolic state right after the work period just like a workout.

Spartacus Sully
12-15-2009, 11:44 PM
When the body is in its anabolic state. There's 24 hours in a day, right. The body is in its anabolic state, when we're asleep, the moment we wake-up and the first 8 hrs of your day is your anabolic state. It's when things start to wind down, for most people it is in the late afternoon/after work, that's when we enter our catabolic/anabolic state.

Having said all that, the best time to workout(anaerobic or cardio) is the first 8 hours that we're awake. So, your individual anabolic state might vary from other people, again it depends when you wake-up. Most people get up at 6a.m. to get ready for work(that's their anabolic state), some people don't have to wake up till 2p.m(that's their anabolic state) to get ready for work.

To give you a better picture:

Let's say, you usually sleep between 10p.m. to 6a.m.(anabolic state)

The next 8 hrs from the time you wake up is considered being in the anabolic state as well.

Last 8 hrs of the day is considered our catabolic state.

actually i dont think thats very correct it seems what state our body is in is highly dependent on if where exercising and how our nutrition is. the first 8 hours after waking up is nothing important and if you dont have food you will quickly go into a catabolic state. catabolic and anabolic are just overall words that only classify states of the body where your either breaking stuff down (exercising, starving) or building stuff up(resting, eating meal through out the day to constantly supply energy). the only real difference is later in the day our blood pressure tends to be higher and a nice run after a having some carbs and protein will lower that and relieve stress.

the best time to run is when you have time to run.

thatjamaicanguy
12-16-2009, 12:48 AM
okay nice stuff, how hard should you run if you're just starting out

Spartacus Sully
12-16-2009, 01:06 AM
there are lots of different ways to run and really your best bet is a combination of sprinting and long distance for endurance and stamina. some days youll want to do long distance and some days sprinting. one day try running as far as you can at a slow pace like 5-6 mph then when your tired take a min walking break stretch and do it again try to do 2 miles if not more. the next day do something like 1 min walking 1 min at like 6 mph then 1 min walking and 1 min at 6.5 mph then 1 min walking 1 min at 7 mph building up till you cant run for min at the speed youve built up to, and if you still have some energy do it again starting back at 1 min walking 1 min at 6 mph. experiment with different intervals of walking to running different speeds different times or different distances

before any running you should walk for about 5 mins or do some kind of warming up for atleast 5 mins some marathon runners (the good ones) will run up to a mile before the marathon just to warm up. after the warm up or relatively early into your run you should stretch as well as after your run and if you so chose through out your run as well.

NYU Alum.
12-16-2009, 02:12 AM
actually i dont think thats very correct it seems what state our body is in is highly dependent on if where exercising and how our nutrition is. the first 8 hours after waking up is nothing important and if you dont have food you will quickly go into a catabolic state. catabolic and anabolic are just overall words that only classify states of the body where your either breaking stuff down (exercising, starving) or building stuff up(resting, eating meal through out the day to constantly supply energy). the only real difference is later in the day our blood pressure tends to be higher and a nice run after a having some carbs and protein will lower that and relieve stress.

the best time to run is when you have time to run.. Whether people workout or not, everyone goes through an anabolic state and a catabolic state.

*The thread starter was asking when is the best time to run, in other words, when does the body benefit the most from working out, it's surely not during the catabolic state*

The ideal time to run or workout is during the anabolic state, but of course, people have busy schedules, you workout when you can. It's better to excercise than not at all.

Spartacus Sully
12-16-2009, 03:14 AM
Actually, you're f**kin' stup*d. Whether people workout or not, everyone goes through an anabolic state and a catabolic state.


The ideal time to run or workout is during the anabolic state, but of course, people have busy schedules, you workout when you can. It's better to excercise than not at all.

MY main points are:

1. the state your body is in is not determined by the time you woke up.
2. the length of time your body is in either state is not set to a min or max amount of time like say 8 hours
3. by eating multiple meals through out the day you are constantly providing food and helping to keep you body in an anabolic state through out the entire day not just the first 8 hours
4. working out breaks down muscle, carbs, fats so by definition when working out your body is going through a catabolic state.
5. extremely good nutrition, supplements, a specialized routine are almost a requirement for maintaining a anabolic state while working out.
6. an anabolic state pre work out can be helpful allowing you to train longer but this can be any time during the day with good nutrition.

Spartacus Sully
12-16-2009, 03:18 AM
*The thread starter was asking when is the best time to run, in other words, when does the body benefit the most from working out, it's surely not during the catabolic state*[/SIZE]


agreed im just saying that because its the first 8 hours since you woke up dosnt mean your in an anabolic state as well just because its the last 8 hours of the day it dosnt mean your in a catabolic state.

Max Cady
12-16-2009, 03:25 AM
Best time to run is across Sam Bowden's backyard afta butcherin' his private investigator and housemaid

NYU Alum.
12-16-2009, 03:36 AM
agreed im just saying that because its the first 8 hours since you woke up dosnt mean your in an anabolic state as well just because its the last 8 hours of the day it dosnt mean your in a catabolic state.

Oh, agreed, it's just giving the thread starter an idea. But, it's a fact that a person has entered the anabolic state once they go to sleep(for however long that maybe) and when they wake up and several hours thereafter.

CymruAmByth
12-16-2009, 03:50 AM
okay nice stuff, how hard should you run if you're just starting out

I just started about 2 months ago and i've been running about 2 miles a day. I ran once in the morning before work a week ago and although it was very VERY hard work i felt great and full of energy for the rest of the day.

Spartacus Sully
12-16-2009, 04:04 AM
Oh, agreed, it's just giving the thread starter an idea. But, it's a fact that a person has entered the anabolic state once they go to sleep(for however long that maybe) and when they wake up and several hours thereafter.

not really when you wake up your usually in a catabolic state or about to enter into one due to lack of amino acids due to lack of the bodys ability to store proteins any where other then what you just ate before you went to bed which is used up by the time your about to wake up

It is also important to remember that there are specific times when the body is most in need of quality nutrition. When you wake up in the morning, the body has gone 8+ hours without being fueled. At this point it has likely entered a catabolic state (breaking down tissue to use for energy). It is important to immediately eat a quality meal upon waking to re-enter an anabolic state as soon as possible.
http://www.gain-weight-muscle-fast.com/weight-gain-diets.html


As for waking up, immediately eat protein, whether its whey or hard boiled eggs, some complex carbs and some water.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070901102627AA7gfo1


I think this may have been a typo, but when you wake up after a 8-10 hour fast, your body is in a catabolic state. Not anabolic. This means that your body will spare your fat and attack your muscles for energy. Very simply put, if you consume a fast digesting carbohydrate at this point the energy will go straight to your fat cells, not your muscles. This is because your metabolism has ground down to a very slow speed.
http://tnation.tmuscle.com/free_online_forum/diet_performance_nutrition_supplements/breakfast_fast_or_slowdigesting_carbs;jsessionid=3 4E0FB9424DCEDB28EC23148AEB8B475.hydra


REM sleep puts you in a catabolic state. Its not just that you have had no protein/calories/nutrients over the past 8 hours. People dont get it i guess.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=120984471
the above thread is great i reccomend a read or atleast check out the laser talon shark bear on page 2

NYU Alum.
12-16-2009, 04:25 AM
not really when you wake up your usually in a catabolic state or about to enter into one due to lack of amino acids due to lack of the bodys ability to store proteins any where other then what you just ate before you went to bed which is used up by the time your about to wake up








the above thread is great i reccomend a read or atleast check out the laser talon shark bear on page 2 No, you're not! You're twisting this sh*t, lmao. That's like sayin' the color white is not white it's black, lmao.

You're getting your info from bodybuilding. What they are saying is true, but your understanding of it is incorrect, but, the fact is, when you go to sleep(resting phase) that's the anabolic state, when you wake up, that's anabolic state and to keep it up, of course we have to eat. That's all there is to it.

When bodybuilders talk about catabolic/anabolic phase it's in regards to eating habits and working out.

Have you heard of circadian rhythms ?

Spartacus Sully
12-16-2009, 04:30 AM
No, you're not! You're twisting this sh*t, lmao. That's like sayin' the color white is not white it's black, lmao.

You're getting your info from bodybuilding. What they are saying is true, but your understanding of it is incorrect, but, the fact is, when you go to sleep(resting phase) that's the anabolic state, when you wake up, that's anabolic state. That's all there is to it.

so your saying that magically your body acquires amino acids (protein) during your sleep that is not from your muscles or what you ate? as well as continues to acquire these magic ammino acids well into the day with out the need to ever replenish the source. i mean building muscles and even repairing muscles require more then fats and carbs to build up and if you dont have those ammino acids (protien) the body will start to take away from healthy muscle inorder to repair the damaged muscle.

im not saying white is black im saying white is white the combination of all light but what happens when you dont have any more light....you have black.

sure your in an anabolic state but thats only untill you run out of the nutrients the anabolic state is using. just like when your awake if your not eating proper food and only sticking to fats and simple carbs your body will be in a catabolic state due to a lack of proteins to repair damaged muscle.

NYU Alum.
12-16-2009, 04:36 AM
so your saying that magically your body acquires amino acids (protein) during your sleep that is not from your muscles or what you ate? as well as continues to acquire these magic ammino acids well into the day with out the need to ever replenish the source. i mean building muscles and even repairing muscles require more then fats and carbs to build up and if you dont have those ammino acids (protien) the body will start to take away from healthy muscle inorder to repair the damaged muscle.

im not saying white is black im saying white is white the combination of all light but what happens when you dont have any more light....you have black.

sure you in an anabolic state but thats only untill you run out of nutrients the anabolic state is using.Listen man, I'm right and you're wrong and I bet your @ss a doctor will tell you the same exact sh*t, only he/she will be able to explain it to you better.

Spartacus Sully
12-16-2009, 04:42 AM
Listen man, I'm right and you're wrong and I bet your @ss a doctor will tell you the same exact sh*t, only he/she will be able to explain it to you better.

seeing that you havnt been able to explain anything i imagine that he could do a better job then you not that i really think he would agree with you.

all i want to know is where the magic proteins come from to help you recover or how your muscles magically recover with only fats and glucose?

circadian rhythms

seems to be just the process the body goes through every day. it has nothing to do with anabolic or catabolic just that the body is resting and working on recovering your muscles while you sleep and perhaps alittle while after you awake. if you dont eat when you wake up your body might still be trying to recover but its tearing apart muscle to do so which puts your body in a catabolic state.

anabolic and catabolic have specific definitions and if over all your tearing down your catabolic and if over all your building up your anabolic. your are always going to be tearing down and building up at the same time but what state your in depends on what your doing over all.

grantm642
12-16-2009, 05:29 AM
For a lot of us were not pro so it is a case of making time between work and study. To save time I often run to work or home from work providing I'm not training that night in the gym.

I understand the post RE anabollic states and catabollic states etc. but we often fight in the evening (quite late sometimes) so personally I think it is a good idea to train at these times as it gets our body used to performing at these times. I realise its unpractical to always train at these times though.

I don't believe its true that we burn any more calories by simply training at a different time of day. The only reason this would be is because we are too tired to perform at our optimum.

thatjamaicanguy
12-17-2009, 01:15 AM
thanks for the awesome feedback.

Now some other things to consider....

I live in a place where it's really dang cold (temperature now is 6 degrees F)
and i usually go out there in the cold running with my dog, but i haven't done that in a while.

AND the neighborhood i live in is a place up in the hills so the roads have a constant incline, so whenever you run it's either up or downhill, never flat across the road...

so i was wondering if i could make a sort of work out where i start at the bottom of the hill, sprint to the top, walk down, catch my breath, then run up the hill and repeat

i would love to know what you guys think

NYU Alum.
12-17-2009, 02:17 AM
thanks for the awesome feedback.

Now some other things to consider....

I live in a place where it's really dang cold (temperature now is 6 degrees F)
and i usually go out there in the cold running with my dog, but i haven't done that in a while.

AND the neighborhood i live in is a place up in the hills so the roads have a constant incline, so whenever you run it's either up or downhill, never flat across the road...

so i was wondering if i could make a sort of work out where i start at the bottom of the hill, sprint to the top, walk down, catch my breath, then run up the hill and repeat

i would love to know what you guys thinkWhy don't you just do it!!

thatjamaicanguy
12-17-2009, 02:23 AM
i just wanted your opinion, but i will do it now since you told me to do it :pat:

Spartacus Sully
12-17-2009, 04:24 AM
i just wanted your opinion, but i will do it now since you told me to do it :pat:

Its best to mix up what your doing if one day you want to run up and down a hill to improve your speed try it but other days you might want to just run in one direction for 15 or 30 mins then head home every time you run you can take a diffrent path, theres also parks that you can go to some may offer multiple hills or some may just be giant flat loops, but whats best to do is to just do it.

6 degrees psh atleast your only running im trying to keep up with my biking over winter and its f*cking cold.

Mares
12-17-2009, 06:41 AM
best time to run is moments after u blew off your load.

Spartacus Sully
12-17-2009, 06:51 AM
best time to run is moments after u blew off your load.

especially if it was all over the chick in front of you waiting to check out at the local acme super market.

or

Sex.......is like....... a gun,
doot-doo-do-doo-doo
doot-doo-do-doo-doo
You Aim......You shoot.....You run
doot-doo-do-doo-doo
doot-doo-do-doo-doo

"Shion"
12-17-2009, 07:55 AM
Its best to mix up what your doing if one day you want to run up and down a hill to improve your speed try it but other days you might want to just run in one direction for 15 or 30 mins then head home every time you run you can take a diffrent path, theres also parks that you can go to some may offer multiple hills or some may just be giant flat loops, but whats best to do is to just do it.

6 degrees psh atleast your only running im trying to keep up with my biking over winter and its f*cking cold.

Why the hell would you bike in this weather?

Bike in the ****ing spring or summer, man.

Cold weather is IMO one of the best time's to do some running because your body requires more body heat while being in that temperature, thus making you sweat more in the long run.

Also, to the guy who said running 2 miles a day is hard work, you are wrong.

If you want to be a boxer, 2 miles a day will not cut it.

I understand that you have jobs too and might not have time, but make time.

I have two jobs and school to deal with and can still make time to run my 5 miles all at once.

Running is the key to good stamina.

CymruAmByth
12-17-2009, 08:41 AM
Why the hell would you bike in this weather?

Bike in the ****ing spring or summer, man.

Cold weather is IMO one of the best time's to do some running because your body requires more body heat while being in that temperature, thus making you sweat more in the long run.

Also, to the guy who said running 2 miles a day is hard work, you are wrong.

If you want to be a boxer, 2 miles a day will not cut it.

I understand that you have jobs too and might not have time, but make time.

I have two jobs and school to deal with and can still make time to run my 5 miles all at once.

Running is the key to good stamina.

I didn't say running 2 miles was hard work, i said running in the morning was hard work.

The Weebler II
12-17-2009, 08:48 AM
I didn't say running 2 miles was hard work, i said running in the morning was hard work.

getting up is the hard bit lol

CymruAmByth
12-17-2009, 08:52 AM
getting up is the hard bit lol

Lol yeah. I suffer from the "another 10 minutes and i'll get up" syndrome!

rskumm21
12-17-2009, 09:00 AM
Lol yeah. I suffer from the "another 10 minutes and i'll get up" syndrome!

Agreed. The hardest part for me is the waking up-and the cold. Last week it was -16 when I woke up for my run. It makes the whole process of getting ready much harder. But once I'm on the road it feels great. You get a great psychological boost knowing that your opponent is probably still asleep, while you're out there at the ass crack of dawn putting in work.

CymruAmByth
12-17-2009, 09:06 AM
Agreed. The hardest part for me is the waking up-and the cold. Last week it was -16 when I woke up for my run. It makes the whole process of getting ready much harder. But once I'm on the road it feels great. You get a great psychological boost knowing that your opponent is probably still asleep, while you're out there at the ass crack of dawn putting in work.

-16?! ****! Where do you live? It's gonna be -2 here tomorrow and that'll be bad enough!

Spartacus Sully
12-17-2009, 09:47 AM
Why the hell would you bike in this weather?

Bike in the ****ing spring or summer, man.

Cold weather is IMO one of the best time's to do some running because your body requires more body heat while being in that temperature, thus making you sweat more in the long run.

Also, to the guy who said running 2 miles a day is hard work, you are wrong.

If you want to be a boxer, 2 miles a day will not cut it.

I understand that you have jobs too and might not have time, but make time.

I have two jobs and school to deal with and can still make time to run my 5 miles all at once.

Running is the key to good stamina.

i said 2 miles is a good start i dont know if any one said 2 miles is hard.

biking is a good exercise as well i find it useful on days that i dont feel like takin a break but am to sore to run only like once or twice a week.

rskumm21
12-17-2009, 09:57 AM
-16?! ****! Where do you live? It's gonna be -2 here tomorrow and that'll be bad enough!

I'm in Colorado.

Mares
12-17-2009, 10:11 AM
getting up is the hard bit lol

i dont get up unless i get to **** first.

CymruAmByth
12-17-2009, 10:44 AM
i dont get up unless i get to **** first.

Who are those girls in your picture??:love:

CymruAmByth
12-17-2009, 10:46 AM
I'm in Colorado.

I think i'd freeze to death in -16. I was in Helsinki, Finland not long ago and it was -6. That was cold enough for me!

Third Degree MM
12-18-2009, 01:56 AM
i dont get up unless i get to **** first.

yeah who are they, i'd like to bust some on those mouths

thatjamaicanguy
12-18-2009, 10:06 PM
does anyone here run intervals?

bXpLaYbOy
12-19-2009, 01:31 PM
lately im up by 4am, rub my body down with abolene and put on my slimmer shorts an d belt and out da door by 4:30...

its been 18 degrees out here in the AM and that has been bad enough for me... im thinking about running with a ski mask on or something

Dynamite Glove
12-19-2009, 03:09 PM
best in the morning, heavyweights should run at night too

..if i lived in a climate that cold, you'd find me jumping more rope than running

Johnni G
12-19-2009, 07:48 PM
Just run when you feel like it :)