View Full Version : Where Punch Power Comes From?


Pugnacious_Z
04-22-2005, 05:14 AM
ive heard many people talkin about punch power and ive heard many different views. sum say its the weight of the fist, sum say its the speed of the punch, sum sayits the physicaly power of the guy.
if u say fist size it cant be coz there have been small fist guys with hard punches. if u say physicaly power then powerlifters shud be boxers which is false and if u say the speed, ali is a good definition of a boxer with speed but nowhere near best puncher. so wat cud it be?

Martin (Top Knowledge)
04-22-2005, 05:34 AM
Power punching is about natural strength, timing and impact.

If you look at big punchers, they ALWAYS have a very wide stance... I reckon that's where a lot of the power comes from.

Pugnacious_Z
04-22-2005, 05:43 AM
you say its about timing and ive heard that but i mean punch power on a bag not in ring, on a bag u can create the most force u can

Martin (Top Knowledge)
04-22-2005, 06:11 AM
On a bag... I dunno mate... I guess that comes down to natural strength. You could try to widen your stance and try to make the power come from your thighs rather than you arms :dunno: And twist your hips?

Ark
04-22-2005, 06:16 AM
In my opinion, anybody can punch hard with the proper training and technique. Though there are what some poeple call natural punchers, poeple born with punching power. Its not from their muscle mass, nor is it from speed or anything of that sort...its a natural gift that they are born with.

If you want to land powerfull punches on a bag you have to use the proper technique to do so, such as using ur body, ur hips to rotate and a few other things. Visit a boxing gym near by for a few lessons and you'll learn almost everything there is to know.

Boxerdog
04-22-2005, 09:47 AM
It's a very good question..... and not easily answered.
I can hit a lot harder than the Average Joe simply because I have some ring training and know how to put my weight into a punch effectively. (I'm a BIG S.O.B.)
But then you have a guy like Morales,who looks like a concentration camp escapee at times but can rattle your damned tooth fillings. Something to do with arm length comes into play here I suspect.
I don't think the best trainer in the world could teach Andy Dick to have K.O. power....so it's partly body type, partly technique, and probably a little bit "nastiness". :D

pinaldino
04-22-2005, 10:26 AM
It's a combination a many things, starting with what nature gave you in your arms...your relative percentage of quick/slow muscle fibers is pretty much fixed from birth , so your ability to accelerate a mass (your fist) cannot be increased so much.
Punching technique ,like putting your body weight in your hand, is also primordial. Fighters who are not blessed with natural power can often obtain almost the same effect if they have an excellent technique + quickness + perfect timing. Look at Tzyu's right hand, it's so effective because he throws it when he knows he will catch the guy.
Also tall and skinny fighters have natural ability to hit hard, maybe because of the leverage...

Dirty Harry
04-09-2010, 05:50 PM
It's a combination a many things, starting with what nature gave you in your arms...your relative percentage of quick/slow muscle fibers is pretty much fixed from birth , so your ability to accelerate a mass (your fist) cannot be increased so much.
Punching technique ,like putting your body weight in your hand, is also primordial. Fighters who are not blessed with natural power can often obtain almost the same effect if they have an excellent technique + quickness + perfect timing. Look at Tzyu's right hand, it's so effective because he throws it when he knows he will catch the guy.
Also tall and skinny fighters have natural ability to hit hard, maybe because of the leverage...

Tall... skinny... leverage... AKA Tommy Hearns

Piper the Great
04-09-2010, 06:30 PM
ur legs create the force

The Weebler II
04-09-2010, 06:34 PM
so basically nobody knows

Piper the Great
04-09-2010, 08:26 PM
go wtch fight science it explains it

dj Ramos
04-09-2010, 08:44 PM
i heard it comes from triceps and knees

prtyboybladeage
04-09-2010, 08:52 PM
ur legs create the force

Bingo!
We have a winner.

Hiram Joel
04-09-2010, 08:54 PM
legs and hip rotation IMO

Hiram Joel
04-09-2010, 08:54 PM
legs and hip rotation IMO

Like a baseball swing lol

jonesy
04-09-2010, 08:54 PM
ive heard many people talkin about punch power and ive heard many different views. sum say its the weight of the fist, sum say its the speed of the punch, sum sayits the physicaly power of the guy.
if u say fist size it cant be coz there have been small fist guys with hard punches. if u say physicaly power then powerlifters shud be boxers which is false and if u say the speed, ali is a good definition of a boxer with speed but nowhere near best puncher. so wat cud it be?

Ask Manny Pacquiao.

FightMoney
04-09-2010, 08:56 PM
I think natural punching power is just that...natural. It's about as easy to explain a guy who is a natural jump shooter in basketball or a RB's natural instinct and vision.

craigus1990
04-09-2010, 08:58 PM
ive heard many people talkin about punch power and ive heard many different views. sum say its the weight of the fist, sum say its the speed of the punch, sum sayits the physicaly power of the guy.
if u say fist size it cant be coz there have been small fist guys with hard punches. if u say physicaly power then powerlifters shud be boxers which is false and if u say the speed, ali is a good definition of a boxer with speed but nowhere near best puncher. so wat cud it be?
smaller fist size would increase power, if you have done any martial art you will know because their is more force per square cm. but in boxing you have gloves on anyway so i dont think it would matter. natural weight can be a factor, speed can be a factor but i would say bone density has a big effect too, look at fighters like pavlik, his punches are slow but when they connect can be devastating. and then take calzaghe, i know he wasnt banging people out but you can tell this guy had heavy hands, his shots were poor technique but still hurt.

SkillspayBills
04-09-2010, 09:00 PM
It's technique. Did you ever seen that fight science episode on the history channel talking abou different fighting styles and their power. When it came to punching boxing won EASILY. The kinetic energy that accumulates from a straight right, when executed properly, which starts from your legs all the way through your body into your fist, can knock someone right the **** out. That's why someone might bash Paulie for being a **** puncher but if he hit you I bet you would be knocked into oblivion.

shekwan
04-09-2010, 09:01 PM
Legs.

Suspend yourself in a harnass 5 feet above air, and then try punching with any force.

It's the legs.

jpunieves
04-09-2010, 09:11 PM
this is a physics question :p

arm length, timing of body twist, effective area behind gloves, angle of impact, distance between legs, weight of fighter, speed of muscle to contract/retract/extend etc...

so who do you think has these factors in their perfect combination?

ATG Fighter
04-09-2010, 09:12 PM
Saw a video of the science behind it. In the video they compare the force of other martial arts punches and a boxer's punch. The power comes from the thighs and hip section and then the transfer of weight as far as I know

One more round
04-09-2010, 09:17 PM
Different fighters draw power from different sources. I know guys who hit hard because of speed, technique, strength, strong legs, broad backs, height, it depends

valero
04-09-2010, 09:56 PM
You should use the whole body effectively. But the leg muscles are the largest in the body, so obviously you want to transfer as much energy from the legs and hips as possible when throwing a punch. Bruce Lee's one inch punch is a good example, his arm barely moves, but you can see his leg movement just before the impact.