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Dana White said he's close to cleaning out 155 and 170 is his next move. He said he won't get a shot at GSP right away though.

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Dana White said he's close to cleaning out 155 and 170 is his next move. He said he won't get a shot at GSP right away though.

gsp is just too damn big.

gsp comes in the ring at light heavyweight.

gsp is just too damn big.

gsp comes in the ring at light heavyweight.

Yep. BJ better hope GSP moves up in weight too.

I think if BJ gets that third fight, he'll beat GSP.

Let him fight Kos and Fitch.

BJ needs to gain some serious weight, and he would KILL GSP.

BJ needs to gain some serious weight, and he would KILL GSP.

whenever bj puts on weight........it's NEVER muscle. :lol1:

155 is his best. bj is only 5'8.

think of it in boxing terms. welterweight in mma is 170.

how many light heavyweights in boxing is 5'8? not much......

BJ will never beat GSP at Welterweight, he had his chance in the first fight but didn't take it......

Like someone stated earlier, the weight BJ puts on is never muscle lol. If he can change that, he may have a chance even against GSP.

Yep. BJ better hope GSP moves up in weight too.

that greaser is too much of a ***** to move up...doesnt have the balls that bj does

hes a better all around fighter than gsp its just gsp is a huge welter and just dwarfs bj if bj was a natural welter he would clean out that division...the guys at 155 are better collectively than the guys at 170

BJ Penn is going to have to put on more weight which means he'll have to get used to dealing with 15 extra pounds on top of his already questionable cardio. Stye wise I think he can beat Fitch maybe Kos but what about a guy like Thiago Alves. Sure BJ is way more talented then Thiago but how does he deal with his size? He doesn't have GSP's takedown ability to nuetralize his striking and I doubt BJ is going to check his leg kicks like he does his other foes. There's alot of guys in that division that give BJ problems just because of size. This isn't like boxing where you move up a few pounds (130 to 135 or 140 to 147). It's a clean 15 pound jump.

gsp is just too damn big.

gsp comes in the ring at light heavyweight.

Not really GSP weighs about 185-187 on fight night. He looks heavier than he really is because of how wide his frame is.

I don't see BJ doing very well at all at Welterweight.

I see Fitch, Alves, Koscheck, Johnson, hell even Daley beating him, let alone GSP.

Not really GSP weighs about 185-187 on fight night. He looks heavier than he really is because of how wide his frame is.

I don't see BJ doing very well at all at Welterweight.

I see Fitch, Alves, Koscheck, Johnson, hell even Daley beating him, let alone GSP.

I see him having a hard time as well. The BJ we're seeing now is a slim in shape BJ who's 160 lbs. A move to welterweight means either A) He's going to have to give up too much size or B) He's going to have to add weight while maintaining his new found cardio improvement. Either one gives him a huge disadvantage.

I think if BJ gets that third fight, he'll beat GSP.

Because he did so well in the last fight right?

that greaser is too much of a ***** to move up...doesnt have the balls that bj does

Peyton Manning is the greatest Quarterback of all time, he should stop being a ***** and play Middle Linebacker.

Does that make any sense?

I'm sorry but you need to get up off BJ's nuts. Balls or not he hasn't beaten anyone of relevance other than Matt Hughes.

BJ isn't or wasn't ballsy. He was an idiot. Had he stayed in the UFC and not taken the WW belt to K-1 and played musical divisions, he really WOULD be the greatest of all time. But he's not.

Seriously get the **** out

Not really GSP weighs about 185-187 on fight night. He looks heavier than he really is because of how wide his frame is.

I don't see BJ doing very well at all at Welterweight.

I see Fitch, Alves, Koscheck, Johnson, hell even Daley beating him, let alone GSP.

anything above 185 is light heavyweight in mma.



chubby bj penn at 170 beats all those guys.

he would have beat gsp last time out if gsp hadn't gone on the pacman roids.

Peyton Manning is the greatest Quarterback of all time, he should stop being a ***** and play Middle Linebacker.

Does that make any sense?

I'm sorry but you need to get up off BJ's nuts. Balls or not he hasn't beaten anyone of relevance other than Matt Hughes.

BJ isn't or wasn't ballsy. He was an idiot. Had he stayed in the UFC and not taken the WW belt to K-1 and played musical divisions, he really WOULD be the greatest of all time. But he's not. Seriously get the **** out

bj only left the ufc for 2 years.

he fought 2 gracies , duane ludwig and lyoto machida.

it's not like he was fighting king of the cage.

anything above 185 is light heavyweight in mma.



chubby bj penn at 170 beats all those guys.

he would have beat gsp last time out if gsp hadn't gone on the pacman roids.

What you weigh in on fight night has nothing to do with what weight class you are in. Are you retarded?

You are just as blind as tocayito1. GSP has never tested positive for roids, but BJ Penn has also been seen plain as day on video smoking marijuana.


bj only left the ufc for 2 years.

he fought 2 gracies , duane ludwig and lyoto machida.

it's not like he was fighting king of the cage.

So 40 year old Renzo, Rodrigo and Ludwig are top fighters, Lyoto Machida wasn't even ranked at that point and BJ lost.

LMAO.

There are no fans more delusional than Penn Fans.

Penn beats a few overrated and overhyped LW's and all of sudden he can beat anybody?

GSP beats Penn everytime.

BJ at 170 has too many stamina issues. WW has too many good wrestlers that would tire BJ out.

I think they only guy that can move up and be just as dominate is Anderson Silva. And even he has admitted that Lyoto gives him problems in sparring.

So 40 year old Renzo, Rodrigo and Ludwig are top fighters, Lyoto Machida wasn't even ranked at that point and BJ lost.

LMAO.

There are no fans more delusional than Penn Fans.

Penn beats a few overrated and overhyped LW's and all of sudden he can beat anybody?

GSP beats Penn everytime.

it doesn't matter he left ufc because he wasn't getting paid enough.

k-1 (i.e. japan) pays a lot of money for gracie fights.



ludwig was coming off of back to back wins over pulver and genki sudo , fool.

What you weigh in on fight night has nothing to do with what weight class you are in. Are you retarded?

You are just as blind as tocayito1. GSP has never tested positive for roids, but BJ Penn has also been seen plain as day on video smoking marijuana.




the steroids thing is a joke you stupid ****.

didn't i type he comes in fight night at light heavyweight?

did i say he weighs in at light heavyweight?


stupid lame.

What you weigh in on fight night has nothing to do with what weight class you are in. Are you retarded?

You are just as blind as tocayito1. GSP has never tested positive for roids, but BJ Penn has also been seen plain as day on video smoking marijuana.




So 40 year old Renzo, Rodrigo and Ludwig are top fighters, Lyoto Machida wasn't even ranked at that point and BJ lost.

LMAO.

There are no fans more delusional than Penn Fans.

Penn beats a few overrated and overhyped LW's and all of sudden he can beat anybody?

GSP beats Penn everytime.

LOOL BJ Penn fans delusional? You ride GSP's *** toooooo hard. You even posted a thread pleeeaading everyone to please vote for GSP as Canadian Athlete of the Year.

I believe a focused and dedicated BJ will beat GSP if they ever fight a third time. If he gains that weight by eating an extra Big Mac or two a day then he'll naaahhh. But if he bust's his ass, and tighten up his techinque, I think he has a hell of a chance of beating anyone in Welterweight.

And for the record, GroundSt.Pound, you're a good poster. But you got GSP's balls way too deep in your mouth homie....get some air every once in awhile.

LOOL BJ Penn fans delusional? You ride GSP's *** toooooo hard. You even posted a thread pleeeaading everyone to please vote for GSP as Canadian Athlete of the Year.

I believe a focused and dedicated BJ will beat GSP if they ever fight a third time. If he gains that weight by eating an extra Big Mac or two a day then he'll naaahhh. But if he bust's his ass, and tighten up his techinque, I think he has a hell of a chance of beating anyone in Welterweight.

And for the record, GroundSt.Pound, you're a good poster. But you got GSP's balls way too deep in your mouth homie....get some air every once in awhile.

I am a GSP fan, and the fact that I asked people to vote for GSP in CAOTY, was not only for GSP but for the sport. And he beat Sidney Crosby by nearly 20% of the votes. Which is insane considering how great Crosby is and how much bigger Hockey is than MMA.

Secondly, I may have GSP's balls on my chin, but none of what I'm saying about him is anything far from the truth. You and the rest of the BJ Penn fans don't seem to quite grasp the fact that BJ is not as great as you make him out to be.

A focused and dedicated BJ couldn't beat GSP the last time. Or was that not the focused BJ Penn either? :dunno:

Penn nuthuggers are always delusional and they always have an excuse for why he loses, is out of shape.

Peyton Manning is the greatest Quarterback of all time, he should stop being a ***** and play Middle Linebacker.

Does that make any sense?

I'm sorry but you need to get up off BJ's nuts. Balls or not he hasn't beaten anyone of relevance other than Matt Hughes.

BJ isn't or wasn't ballsy. He was an idiot. Had he stayed in the UFC and not taken the WW belt to K-1 and played musical divisions, he really WOULD be the greatest of all time. But he's not.

Seriously get the **** out

the peyton manning reference doesnt make sense...and dont talk about being on some ones nuts your obviously riding gsp's and your a bj hater...bj is the man and is more talented than any one else in mma

anderson moves up bj moves up machida wants to move to heavyweight they all want to challenge themselves except gsp hes dominant in 170 so why doesnt he move up? hes a massive welter...hes scared to thats why....and lol at koscheck daley and johnson beating bj penn...clearly a bj hater

and yes bj penn-greatest fighter of all time said by
tocayito1-greatest man that ever lived

What you weigh in on fight night has nothing to do with what weight class you are in. Are you retarded?

You are just as blind as tocayito1. GSP has never tested positive for roids, but BJ Penn has also been seen plain as day on video smoking marijuana.




So 40 year old Renzo, Rodrigo and Ludwig are top fighters, Lyoto Machida wasn't even ranked at that point and BJ lost.

LMAO.

There are no fans more delusional than Penn Fans.

Penn beats a few overrated and overhyped LW's and all of sudden he can beat anybody?

GSP beats Penn everytime.

koscheck is nothing special
alves is nothing special he has standup but uses it very stupidly
hughes was past his prime 3rd fight
serra at 170 sucks
sherk at 170 sucks
fitch outside of hermes franca..sherk and guida might have the worst standup in ufc

whos over hyping opponents? gsp has no challengers in ww so why wouldnt he move up?

bj cant wait to move up because he knows at lightweight nobody can **** with him..he wants to challenge himself...im the delusional one? are you serious? im sure you think dan hardy is in the top p4p list too right?

I am a GSP fan, and the fact that I asked people to vote for GSP in CAOTY, was not only for GSP but for the sport. And he beat Sidney Crosby by nearly 20% of the votes. Which is insane considering how great Crosby is and how much bigger Hockey is than MMA.

Secondly, I may have GSP's balls on my chin, but none of what I'm saying about him is anything far from the truth. You and the rest of the BJ Penn fans don't seem to quite grasp the fact that BJ is not as great as you make him out to be.

A focused and dedicated BJ couldn't beat GSP the last time. Or was that not the focused BJ Penn either? :dunno:

Penn nuthuggers are always delusional and they always have an excuse for why he loses, is out of shape.
are you saying that bj weighing in at 168 and looking chubby is him being in shape? really he took a week off of training 2 times...was it retarded?hell yea..hes arrogant and believes he can beat any one on talent alone and that was true for a while until the late rounds when he gasses..

hughes 2nd fight bj was dominating but gassed and lost
pulver 1st fight same thing
gsp 1st fight same thing

hughes-said gsp greases
serra-after beating gsp said he was greasy
miller-said gsp was greasing to big john mcarthy in between rounds
sherk-said gsp felt slippery as hell

dude its fine to follow a fighter but dont insult others who like different fighters..im just pointing out bj's balls and his amazing talent

like i said bj penn is the greatest ever

koscheck is nothing special
alves is nothing special he has standup but uses it very stupidly
hughes was past his prime 3rd fight
serra at 170 sucks
sherk at 170 sucks
fitch outside of hermes franca..sherk and guida might have the worst standup in ufc

I can't even put in to words how retarded this post is.

whos over hyping opponents? gsp has no challengers in ww so why wouldnt he move up?

Nobody is overhyping opponents. GSP continually fights top contenders, BJ doesn't.


bj cant wait to move up because he knows at lightweight nobody can **** with him..he wants to challenge himself...im the delusional one? are you serious? im sure you think dan hardy is in the top p4p list too right?

Yeah it's good that he wants to challenge himself, but GSP unlike Penn, knows moving up to challenge yourself without being in shape and prepared is stupid. GSP wants to move up so he can WIN. BJ obviously doesn't have the presence of mind to take the time to gain the healthy weight he needs to move up without taking a hit to his stamina.

GSP said he's going to move up which is why he's bulking right now, in case you haven't read around, GSP is walking around at 200lbs now. GSP knows that he can't put on a bunch of sloppy weight and do things half-assed. Especially when he's going to be fighting arguably one of the top 3 P4P fighters in the world in Anderson Silva.

Dan Hardy will be the first fight that GSP has had in over 4 years that isn't a highly ranked contender.


are you saying that bj weighing in at 168 and looking chubby is him being in shape? really he took a week off of training 2 times...was it retarded?hell yea..hes arrogant and believes he can beat any one on talent alone and that was true for a while until the late rounds when he gasses.

BJ Penn and ALL his fans claimed that before the second fight that he was in shape and ready to "kick GSP's ass" Then when he gets beat down he was all of sudden not 100%? Oh and here comes the fact that he took off for 2 weeks. This statement right here is a testament to BJ's lack of discipline. No wonder his track record outside of LW isn't impressive.

Penn and his fans love making excuses don't they?



hughes 2nd fight bj was dominating but gassed and lost
pulver 1st fight same thing
gsp 1st fight same thing

More excuses?


hughes-said gsp greases
serra-after beating gsp said he was greasy
miller-said gsp was greasing to big john mcarthy in between rounds

More excuses? Why did Hughes and Miller wait 4 years to come out and say this? Why didn't they take legal action? Because it's bull****.

sherk-said gsp felt slippery as hell

Oh yeah. We should all listen to and believe the word of a roider... :rolleyes:

dude its fine to follow a fighter but dont insult others who like different fighters..im just pointing out bj's balls and his amazing talent

like i said bj penn is the greatest ever

I never said there was anything wrong with being a fan of a certain fighter. I'm simply saying that comparing BJ's career accomplishments as being better than GSP's is simply not true. Fedor's record against top flight competition isn't even that consistent.

Even Penn Nuthuggers I know will even admit that.

I'm also pointing out how idiotic you are by discrediting every opponent GSP has fought (Alves, Fitch, Penn, Sherk, Trigg, Hughes, Serra) like they're a bunch of scrubs yet you think

Rodrigo Gracie
Renzo Gracie
Duane Ludwig
Jens Pulver
Joe Stevesnon

are more formidable opponents.

Really it's quite ridiculous.

I can't even put in to words how retarded this post is.



Nobody is overhyping opponents. GSP continually fights top contenders, BJ doesn't.




Yeah it's good that he wants to challenge himself, but GSP unlike Penn, knows moving up to challenge yourself without being in shape and prepared is stupid. GSP wants to move up so he can WIN. BJ obviously doesn't have the presence of mind to take the time to gain the healthy weight he needs to move up without taking a hit to his stamina.

GSP said he's going to move up which is why he's bulking right now, in case you haven't read around, GSP is walking around at 200lbs now. GSP knows that he can't put on a bunch of sloppy weight and do things half-assed. Especially when he's going to be fighting arguably one of the top 3 P4P fighters in the world in Anderson Silva.

Dan Hardy will be the first fight that GSP has had in over 4 years that isn't a highly ranked contender.




BJ Penn and ALL his fans claimed that before the second fight that he was in shape and ready to "kick GSP's ass" Then when he gets beat down he was all of sudden not 100%? Oh and here comes the fact that he took off for 2 weeks. This statement right here is a testament to BJ's lack of discipline. No wonder his track record outside of LW isn't impressive.

Penn and his fans love making excuses don't they?




More excuses?



More excuses? Why did Hughes and Miller wait 4 years to come out and say this? Why didn't they take legal action? Because it's bull****.



Oh yeah. We should all listen to and believe the word of a roider... :rolleyes:



I never said there was anything wrong with being a fan of a certain fighter. I'm simply saying that comparing BJ's career accomplishments as being better than GSP's is simply not true. Fedor's record against top flight competition isn't even that consistent.

Even Penn Nuthuggers I know will even admit that.

I'm also pointing out how idiotic you are by discrediting every opponent GSP has fought (Alves, Fitch, Penn, Sherk, Trigg, Hughes, Serra) like they're a bunch of scrubs yet you think

Rodrigo Gracie
Renzo Gracie
Duane Ludwig
Jens Pulver
Joe Stevesnon

are more formidable opponents.

Really it's quite ridiculous.

ok your saying that gsp fights the best in welter which is true and you make it seem like bj is fighting the worst at lw? who do you want him to fight at lw thats in the ufc?

i never said that either of the gracies were good wins at all they are not world beaters and seems like he just wanted to stay active
never said stevenson was a good win..hes overrated same with pulver at that point...ludwig isnt that great but hes been in their with some tough competition and isnt horrible

fitch is no scrub i never said he was..he just has horrendous standup
sherk and serra are no good at 170 which is why they had their best success at 155
trigg? really? you think hes elite?
alves again isnt that great he has overrated ground game and while he has good standup..he uses it very stupidly at time..like keeping a far distance and leading with a straight right even with a small reach
and you down grading his win over penn by saying that penn is no good at welter..even though he destroyed the most dominant welter ever at his best

i never said bj was in good shape before the 2nd gsp fight i thought it was retarded he wieghed in at 168

miller didnt wait 4 yrs..he was saying it in between rounds during their fight and they cant take legal action because theres no rules against it

damn your contradiction and one sided bias and insults are very childish and laughable..keep it up buddy im pretty entertained

are you saying that bj weighing in at 168 and looking chubby is him being in shape? really he took a week off of training 2 times...was it retarded?hell yea..hes arrogant and believes he can beat any one on talent alone and that was true for a while until the late rounds when he gasses..

hughes 2nd fight bj was dominating but gassed and lost
pulver 1st fight same thing
gsp 1st fight same thing

hughes-said gsp greases
serra-after beating gsp said he was greasy
miller-said gsp was greasing to big john mcarthy in between rounds
sherk-said gsp felt slippery as hell

dude its fine to follow a fighter but dont insult others who like different fighters..im just pointing out bj's balls and his amazing talent

like i said bj penn is the greatest ever

IMO it would be stupid to fight GSP again, St. Pierre gets better each time out and the little holes he has he patches them up each time out. A third fight would be like the second.

Hughes saying that St. Pierre felt greasy in two of their three fights is kinda suspicious, Serra saying the same. Here is the Hughes quote, “I’m not the only one who has said that GSP felt greasy during a fight. I know Matt Serra has mentioned it and, even in their first fight, I think B.J. said something. I’m not saying GSP did something wrong and I’m not saying that it would have changed any outcomes of any fights; but what I am saying is, for my last two fights against Georges, he felt greasy.”


BJ is really good but in WW Georges is stronger and thats nothing to be ashamed of, but try convincing him of it...


Also, GSP at middleweight would not make sense, first of GSP is way too small for middleweight, height and weight wise. GSP barely makes 180 when not training, he even said it. Going up, with much taller and stronger opponents is not something one can do in a couple of months, BJ did it and lost. The problem is that BJ doesn't commit to being a WW fully, he wants to defend his LW belt and to fight properly at WW he has to relinquish his belt and take the weight gain seriously. Its not enough being at 160 and gaining 10 pounds to make weight. Plus for GSP, its really difficult to gain weight properly when one is smaller. Not all bodies get used to the weight gain perfectly and perform like always. Almost everyone in the division is on or over 6' 1''. To me he doesn't have anything else to prove by moving to MW really.

Don't get me wrong, as a fan, it would be exciting to see GSP at MW, but if it didn't happen I'd understand and really, legacy wise, he really doesn't need to do it.

If BJ really wants that fight he should commit to it fully and have a catch weight fight before making the jump fully at WW then fight one of the top guys before getting his third crack at GSP, just to make it fair to the other top WW at the division....

IMO, the fact that BJ Penn had the cojones to move up in weight and beat Matt Hughes when Matt Hughes was THE MAN, is more impressive than anything GSP has done.

IMO it would be stupid to fight GSP again, St. Pierre gets better each time out and the little holes he has he patches them up each time out. A third fight would be like the second.

Hughes saying that St. Pierre felt greasy in two of their three fights is kinda suspicious, Serra saying the same. Here is the Hughes quote, “I’m not the only one who has said that GSP felt greasy during a fight. I know Matt Serra has mentioned it and, even in their first fight, I think B.J. said something. I’m not saying GSP did something wrong and I’m not saying that it would have changed any outcomes of any fights; but what I am saying is, for my last two fights against Georges, he felt greasy.”


BJ is really good but in WW Georges is stronger and thats nothing to be ashamed of, but try convincing him of it...


Also, GSP at middleweight would not make sense, first of GSP is way too small for middleweight, height and weight wise. GSP barely makes 180 when not training, he even said it. Going up, with much taller and stronger opponents is not something one can do in a couple of months, BJ did it and lost. The problem is that BJ doesn't commit to being a WW fully, he wants to defend his LW belt and to fight properly at WW he has to relinquish his belt and take the weight gain seriously. Its not enough being at 160 and gaining 10 pounds to make weight. Plus for GSP, its really difficult to gain weight properly when one is smaller. Not all bodies get used to the weight gain perfectly and perform like always. Almost everyone in the division is on or over 6' 1''. To me he doesn't have anything else to prove by moving to MW really.

Don't get me wrong, as a fan, it would be exciting to see GSP at MW, but if it didn't happen I'd understand and really, legacy wise, he really doesn't need to do it.

If BJ really wants that fight he should commit to it fully and have a catch weight fight before making the jump fully at WW then fight one of the top guys before getting his third crack at GSP, just to make it fair to the other top WW at the division....

damn bro you wrote an essay lol...i agree with alot that you said..there was more to the hughes quote but thats not important...im not saying gsp needs to go to mw it was just a heated arguement that me and that guy have been having on multiple threads...i dont think bj should go to ww without gaining weight correstly either adn its dumb when he does...bj penn can be competitive at ww maybe not champ again but he can be a contender..i think he can beat kos johnson alves and some others...gsp is great and i hate him but hes amazing... i hear that on fight night he weight around 190 but maybe im wrong...i think he can make 185 fine...and he says he spars with guys way bigger than him and takes them down with ease, so i dont really see why not make the move..even if its just to try it out...franklin vitor hendo anderson wandy couture and others have been very successful fighting out of their natural weight classes so why not gsp?


and catchweight fights suck

IMO, the fact that BJ Penn had the cojones to move up in weight and beat Matt Hughes when Matt Hughes was THE MAN, is more impressive than anything GSP has done.

I agree it's very impressive, but one thing that separates GSP from guys like Penn, Liddell, Couture, Hughes is the fact that GSP had to EARN his shot BOTH times to get to the title.

Penn just cuts line and gets shots. He's never cleaned out a division GSP did that on TWO occasions.

How is that not impressive? And how is it not impressive that GSP managed to beat BJ twice?

I just don't understand.

gsp is just too damn big.

gsp comes in the ring at light heavyweight.

lol. c'mon. you can't be serious about the LHW comment. :no:

and GSP didn't just over power penn on the ground with his strength, he dominated penn in the standup as well. he was making penn look really bad with his striking.
whenever bj puts on weight........it's NEVER muscle. :lol1:

155 is his best. bj is only 5'8.

think of it in boxing terms. welterweight in mma is 170.

how many light heavyweights in boxing is 5'8? not much......

tua stop crunching numbers:grumpy:

you know penn is 5'9 and GSP is 5'10

still luv you though:luvbed:

lol. c'mon. you can't be serious about the LHW comment. :no:

and GSP didn't just over power penn on the ground with his strength, he dominated penn in striking as well. he was making penn look really bad with his striking. :canada:That's when Penn was already fatigued from defending the takedowns of GSP.

Hey, props to GSP, but, no way in hell does GSP have better boxing than Penn.

That's when Penn was already fatigued from defending the takedowns of GSP.

Hey, props to GSP, but, no way in hell does GSP have better boxing than Penn.

Boxing, he has GSP beat, but overall stand-up. GSP is better.

GSP has range, better kicks, better footwork and mixed his strikes up better. Last Saturday was the first time I've seen BJ throw a kick in years. Ironically it was what ended the fight. LOL

lol. c'mon. you can't be serious about the LHW comment. :no:

and GSP didn't just over power penn on the ground with his strength, he dominated penn in the standup as well. he was making penn look really bad with his striking.


tua stop crunching numbers:grumpy:

you know penn is 5'9 and GSP is 5'10

still luv you though:luvbed:

bj penn had on platform shoes when they measured him in reality he's only 5'3 and he wears weighted clothes..he really walks around at 135 lbs so hes always undersized..its just amazing how he keeps on winning

That's when Penn was already fatigued from defending the takedowns of GSP.

Hey, props to GSP, but, no way in hell does GSP have better boxing than Penn.

why is that an impossiblity? GSP has been training in boxing for over 12 years now and he is a black belt in karate. his striking is just as good if not better than Penn's.

why is that an impossiblity? GSP has been training in boxing for over 12 years now and he is a black belt in karate. his striking is just as good if not better than Penn's.

I still think, even as a big GSP fan, that Penn has better boxing. His jab, his head movement.... he has very solid boxing fundamentals. In my opinion he has the best boxing in the sport.

But GSP is the better striker overall.

bj penn had on platform shoes when they measured him in reality he's only 5'3 and he wears weighted clothes..he really walks around at 135 lbs so hes always undersized..its just amazing how he keeps on winning

and he almost beat a super heavyweight GSP in their first fight. that's pretty impressive.
I still think, even as a big GSP fan, that Penn has better boxing. His jab, his head movement.... he has very solid boxing fundamentals. In my opinion he has the best boxing in the sport.

But GSP is the better striker overall.

I agree that penn is a better combination puncher, but st.pierre has a better jab and better long range punches. he comes in with punches from distance that I don't think penn could pull off.

and he almost beat a super heavyweight GSP in their first fight. that's pretty impressive.

exactly man thats what im saying and after the beating he gave diego i doubt he can even spell bj or gsp

i think i was destined to be a penn fan

my name is jesus penaloza

my mother use to call me baby jesus

if you but that together

baby jesus penaloza- b.j pen-aloza

its fate

If BJ could make some of that extra weight Muscle, he could have a chance . Maybe come in a good 165. then a okay 170. That could help him move better.

exactly man thats what im saying and after the beating he gave diego i doubt he can even spell bj or gsp

i think i was destined to be a penn fan

my name is jesus penaloza

my mother use to call me baby jesus

if you but that together

baby jesus penaloza- b.j pen-aloza

its fate

yeah it sounds like fate to me. are you Hawaiian as well?

yeah it sounds like fate to me. are you Hawaiian as well?

no im not im bolivian...if i was Hawaiian that would just be wierd and freaky but i eat pineapple like no ones business man

seen him already at welterweight. he got his ass kicked.

exactly man thats what im saying and after the beating he gave diego i doubt he can even spell bj or gsp

i think i was destined to be a penn fan

my name is jesus penaloza

my mother use to call me baby jesus

if you but that together

baby jesus penaloza- b.j pen-aloza

its fate

lol, funny coincidence there.....