All boxers are tough men. Let's never forget that. However, we've all seen one or two matches where it was painfully obvious that one fighter was only in it for the money. What are your picks for the biggest wuss out in boxing history?

I'm going with Bruce Seldon's performance against Tyson. Mike barely grazed him and he went down.

Jones Tarver 2.

Jones could have gotten up any time he wanted to. Instead he takes a nap, and a paycheck.

Disgracefull.

Somebody will say Golota vs Tyson so I will make excuses in advance. In the first Round and 2nd round Golota absorbed alot of clean very hard power shots from Tyson in particular the clean overhand right that put him on the canvas. One of the punches that Golota took in that injured his neck and skull.

Also it should be mentioned that Golota should not have been in this fight at all because he had recently injured his left shoulder in car accident and his left jab was always his main weapon. He was injured and felt and outclassed without having his main weapon in his arsenal and that is why he quit. It was horrible display Golota had against Tyson for any Golota fan but he does have legitimate excuses. I felt so sorry for him when he walking off and people were throwing **** at him from the stands and then in the locker room, the interview they had with him made me want to cry. The guy has a studdering problem and does not speak English that good because of that, and the interview was meant to make him look so bad.

De La Hoya-Hopkins

Oliver McCall's fiasco against Lennox Lewis.

Yeah, but Oscar's corner told him to do that.

I'm going to have to say Joppy vs. Taylor.

How about Vitali vs Kirk Johnson. Vitali vs Corrie Sanders or Vitali vs Danny Williams.

None of them bothered to even look like they got in shape for it.

Also Riddick Bowe truly lost to my boy Billy Zumbrum!

Bowe was pathetic and was most definitly just trying to get some money.

all the guys ducking sturm

De La Hoya-Hopkins


lmao, I saw this one coming.

id have to say
omg
holy **** i can eventhink of his name any more
dont htink ive ever drawn a blank like this
o ya
frietas
that **** was weak
its ok to give up
i mean he was down like 4 times
but the **** that was lame
was how he walked to the ref
then just waved it off
with a weak ass lil hand shake
like a sorta Sikkeee
to all his fans
i was like wtf was that
he gets up
walks to the ref like hes gonna continue
then hes like
second thought nahhhhhhh

Corrales V.S. Freitas was pathetic IMO.

That was just ridiculous. Acelino acted like he was ok to fight, and started to point blame at the corner.....and used odd body language. He then got hammered......and quit outright. I never forgave him for that.

I forgave William Joppy right after the Taylor fight, because he is one of my favorite fighters, and has been for a long time now. He was just completely frustrated and outgunned....not to mention battling injuries.

Freitas simply quit from being outgunned.

Corrales V.S. Freitas was pathetic IMO.

That was just ridiculous. Acelino acted like he was ok to fight, and started to point blame at the corner.....and used odd body language. He then got hammered......and quit outright. I never forgave him for that.

I forgave William Joppy right after the Taylor fight, because he is one of my favorite fighters, and has been for a long time now. He was just completely frustrated and outgunned....not to mention battling injuries.

Freitas simply quit from being outgunned.
great minds think alike
check out my previous post
lol

Somebody will say Golota vs Tyson so I will make excuses in advance. In the first Round and 2nd round Golota absorbed alot of clean very hard power shots from Tyson in particular the clean overhand right that put him on the canvas. One of the punches that Golota took in that injured his neck and skull.

Also it should be mentioned that Golota should not have been in this fight at all because he had recently injured his left shoulder in car accident and his left jab was always his main weapon. He was injured and felt and outclassed without having his main weapon in his arsenal and that is why he quit. It was horrible display Golota had against Tyson for any Golota fan but he does have legitimate excuses. I felt so sorry for him when he walking off and people were throwing **** at him from the stands and then in the locker room, the interview they had with him made me want to cry. The guy has a studdering problem and does not speak English that good because of that, and the interview was meant to make him look so bad.
this is the most ultimate display of cowardice. worse than that of liston against ali

Jones Tarver 2.

Jones could have gotten up any time he wanted to. Instead he takes a nap, and a paycheck.

Disgracefull.

sarcasm?

he beat the count, Nady called it off immediatly though.

this is the most ultimate display of cowardice. worse than that of liston against ali

yeah whatever, you go try to fight Mike Tyson with one arm and an injured vertebre... then report back *******.

great minds think alike
check out my previous post
lol

LMAO. I posted before I even read everyone elses response. As usual. I dont like to get a biased view on my response beforehand.

oliver mccall started cryin like a girl but he was messed up at the time

warrior are you serious about jones cause he got up and the ref stopped it. that shot tarver landed was a bomb.

Orlin Norris against Vitali and Fabio Moli against Wladimir.

I dont think there was anything cowardly about either of Jones' losses. Jesus christ, the second one, he layed on the canvas unconscious for a complete 10 minutes.

Johnson almost killed him.

Corrales-Freitas.
I'd also consider Duran-Leonard, but I think
that one was more of frustration rather than cowardice on
Duran's part.

yeah whatever, you go try to fight Mike Tyson with one arm and an injured vertebre... then report back *******.
whatever... :rolleyes:

Somebody will say Golota vs Tyson so I will make excuses in advance. In the first Round and 2nd round Golota absorbed alot of clean very hard power shots from Tyson in particular the clean overhand right that put him on the canvas. One of the punches that Golota took in that injured his neck and skull.

Also it should be mentioned that Golota should not have been in this fight at all because he had recently injured his left shoulder in car accident and his left jab was always his main weapon. He was injured and felt and outclassed without having his main weapon in his arsenal and that is why he quit. It was horrible display Golota had against Tyson for any Golota fan but he does have legitimate excuses. I felt so sorry for him when he walking off and people were throwing **** at him from the stands and then in the locker room, the interview they had with him made me want to cry. The guy has a studdering problem and does not speak English that good because of that, and the interview was meant to make him look so bad.

That is a great post McKay. Very well said, and I agree with the injury he sustained in the car wreck....considering that is documented. He would grimace every time he threw the left.

LMAO. I posted before I even read everyone elses response. As usual. I dont like to get a biased view on my response beforehand.


really? u dont?

Somebody will say Golota vs Tyson so I will make excuses in advance. In the first Round and 2nd round Golota absorbed alot of clean very hard power shots from Tyson in particular the clean overhand right that put him on the canvas. One of the punches that Golota took in that injured his neck and skull.

Also it should be mentioned that Golota should not have been in this fight at all because he had recently injured his left shoulder in car accident and his left jab was always his main weapon. He was injured and felt and outclassed without having his main weapon in his arsenal and that is why he quit. It was horrible display Golota had against Tyson for any Golota fan but he does have legitimate excuses. I felt so sorry for him when he walking off and people were throwing **** at him from the stands and then in the locker room, the interview they had with him made me want to cry. The guy has a studdering problem and does not speak English that good because of that, and the interview was meant to make him look so bad.

Good points, but maybe he should have just not fought Tyson then instead of embaressing himself.

really? u dont?

Nope. Just like you never type anything over 1 line.

Good points, but maybe he should have just not fought Tyson then instead of embaressing himself.

He needed the money to support his family. He does not want his kids growing up like he did in some horrible orphanage in Warsaw working as mafia thumbreaker and underground street fighter just to survive. He took the fight because he wants his kids to live a nice life and childhood like he did not have the chance to have.

He needed the money to support his family.

True, but if he was injured he had no buisness fighting someone like Tyson. But I see your point, these boxers arn't all rich so they have to take risks to support their families.

Tarver against Jones, It was pathetic how easily RJJ was there for his taking. But he was sooo afraid that Roy would all of a sudden counter him and explode on his face he didnt want to let his hands go and let Roy rack up the points. And then he goes on to say he was robbed.

Tarver was scared in both fights against roy thats the truth.

Julian Rodriguez against Robert Guerrero.
Mario Cawley kept falling to the canvas even when Hasim Rahman didn't hit him.

well James Butler sucker punching
Richard Grant was pretty cowardly.

but in the Ring Freitas lost all my respect.

Oliver McCall's fiasco against Lennox Lewis.
he had alot of mental problems that factored into that fight

I would agree with the Corrales-Freitas fight

thought I feel for frietas not wanting to take anymore punishment

I reckon Derrick Gainer vs Juan Manuel Marquez.

Derrick Gainer was just looking for a way out, He ran for 6 rounds and then convinced the referee to stop the fight.

NONONONONONONON

gotta be this bloke hands down


http://frank.pangaeagames.com/lol.gif

dunno who he is. :D

NONONONONONONON

gotta be this bloke hands down


http://frank.pangaeagames.com/lol.gif

dunno who he is. :D
That is F**king funny!!! ... LOL!... :lmao:

All boxers are tough men. Let's never forget that. However, we've all seen one or two matches where it was painfully obvious that one fighter was only in it for the money. What are your picks for the biggest wuss out in boxing history?

I'm going with Bruce Seldon's performance against Tyson. Mike barely grazed him and he went down.*cringes*

That was embarassing; he never recovered from that dive. Did you see his recent fight where he mentioned beforehand that he resumed fighting in part to erase that debacle?

He basically gave up around the 9th round to a guy with D cup breasts. I'm serious.

NONONONONONONON

gotta be this bloke hands down


http://frank.pangaeagames.com/lol.gif

dunno who he is. :D

What about that guy that ran and jumped on the ropes, and then got hit while he was up there? Someone here used to have it. That's not him in the pic, is it?

NONONONONONONON

gotta be this bloke hands down


http://frank.pangaeagames.com/lol.gif

dunno who he is. :D
LMAO! imagine this hapening in a real match :P

HOLILSTER THATS THE ONE MATE BUT NOT A PIC ITS AMOVIE FILE

ARK THAT WAS A REAL MATCH MATE. :eek:

Tyson V Seldon
Tyson V Savarese
Tyson V Golota

When morradde hakkar ran from bernard hopkins...or when causer tackled malcolm tann to the ground

Yeah, but Oscar's corner told him to do that.



BS.. That fight was fixed. Partnership plus a big paycheck for bernard.

Yeah, but Oscar's corner told him to do that.

Oscar's corner never once told him to run. He did it on his own but blamed his corner as usual. His corner told him to box and box doesn't mean run.

I would say one of the biggest cowards would be Butler for punching Grant after being embarrassed in the ring.

He needed the money to support his family. He does not want his kids growing up like he did in some horrible orphanage in Warsaw working as mafia thumbreaker and underground street fighter to make ends meat. He took the fight because he wants his kids to have nice things and live a nice life and childhood like he did not have the chance to have.
Who cares? He chose this profession.. he's a boxer, a fighter and a warrior! How do you turn your back and walk out of a ring in a middle of a round???? Even when you're hurt.. take a punch and go down like a man... have your corner stop the round.. finish the round and call it quits.. I don't know… But don't leave like ***** in a middle of a fight! That's still a TKO loss and the most coward way of going into a fight and leaving!

This is not some corporate job that you can walk away from if you don't like it.. You have fan obligations and fans paid to see you fight and this is how you get you paycheck.

Now because of his coward way, Golota didn’t get paid and that’s 100% right!

Luckily for him, they reversed a decision to a ‘no contest’ for stupid “Tyson was found to have marijuana in his blood that evening” reason. Who can blame him after a fight like this.


Yes, I think this was the most coward fight I’ve ever seen

Jesus christ, the second one, he layed on the canvas unconscious for a complete 10 minutes.

That's not true, for the record. Jones was not out that long, and was told by the medical staff to lay down for observation and precaution.

Who cares? He chose this profession.. he's a boxer, a fighter and a warrior! How do you turn your back and walk out of a ring in a middle of a round???? Even when you're hurt.. take a punch and go down like a man... have your corner stop the round.. finish the round and call it quits.. I don't know… But don't leave like ***** in a middle of a fight! That's still a TKO loss and the most coward way of going into a fight and leaving!

This is not some corporate job that you can walk away from if you don't like it.. You have fan obligations and fans paid to see you fight and this is how you get you paycheck.

Now because of his coward way, Golota didn’t get paid and that’s 100% right!

Luckily for him, they reversed a decision to a ‘no contest’ for stupid “Tyson was found to have marijuana in his blood that evening” reason. Who can blame him after a fight like this.


Yes, I think this was the most coward fight I’ve ever seen

Fair enough, it takes a bit of a sadistic temperment to be a boxing fan anyway, what are the fights everybody loves? The fights where 1 or both guys get their heads beat him in to debilitating levels. Nobody apprecieates Lennox Lewis as much as they do Tyson even though Lewis is a way better boxer, Tyson inflicts more damage its seems and is meaner, and that is what people want in boxing it seems sometimes. I will say myself there is nothign I hate more than cowardly boring defensive boxing styles like certain fights exhibit on a continued basis.

What if Golota did not quit against Tyson though, and took another punch that served to make his neck injury worse. It could have permanently ended his career if he tried to stay in and took more big punches. He quit and looked bad that time but at least in doing so he preserved himself to go on to fight another day, for Championship paydays. If he would have tried to finish the fight he might be walking around in neckbrace right now instead of challenging for the WBO title. I know some of you *******s probably watch Golota vs Tyson over and over and over on Miketyson.com or whatever just to laugh sadistically at Golota. I dont even deny that Golota quit like a prick in that fight, but he did have legit excuses, mainly he felt outclass not having his left jab in his arsenal.

Jones Tarver 2.

Jones could have gotten up any time he wanted to. Instead he takes a nap, and a paycheck.

Disgracefull.

eh, no.

i'd have to say clifford etienne vs. mike tyson.

De La Hoya-Hopkins
Yup
He pulled a ***** move in that fight

Joppy-Taylor---Joppy was running the last 4 rounds...

He wasn't just running, he was dancing and taunting Taylor which was very discgraceful, if ur gonna run, dont taunt..

AAHHHHHHH I've been waiting for this topic for a while now.....

VLAD KLITSCHKO vs. SANDERS

when Vlad turned his back on Sanders, trying to run away from the guy, I nearly vomited....I was telling a few buddies before the fight that this Klitschko kid was the real deal, and Vlad's heartless performance made me (and Vlad) look like total chumps, BY FAR the most cowardly act I've ever seen from a so-called top contender

Yeah, that is the fight that first poppe up in my mind when I saw this thread. I can't believe that Joppy was actually taunting Taylor. Joppy should be ashamed of himself. LMAO.

NONONONONONONON

gotta be this bloke hands down


http://frank.pangaeagames.com/lol.gif

dunno who he is. :D



NO QUESTION! This guy!


Also, De La Hoya running...ER...sprinting away from Tito, despite winning (seemingly) easily, was definitely cowardice.

Fair enough, it takes a bit of a sadistic temperment to be a boxing fan anyway, what are the fights everybody loves? The fights where 1 or both guys get their heads beat him in to debilitating levels. Nobody apprecieates Lennox Lewis as much as they do Tyson even though Lewis is a way better boxer, Tyson inflicts more damage its seems and is meaner, and that is what people want in boxing it seems sometimes. I will say myself there is nothign I hate more than cowardly boring defensive boxing styles like certain fights exhibit on a continued basis.

What if Golota did not quit against Tyson though, and took another punch that served to make his neck injury worse. It could have permanently ended his career if he tried to stay in and took more big punches. He quit and looked bad that time but at least in doing so he preserved himself to go on to fight another day, for Championship paydays. If he would have tried to finish the fight he might be walking around in neckbrace right now instead of challenging for the WBO title. I know some of you *******s probably watch Golota vs Tyson over and over and over on Miketyson.com or whatever just to laugh sadistically at Golota. I dont even deny that Golota quit like a prick in that fight, but he did have legit excuses, mainly he felt outclass not having his left jab in his arsenal.
Everyone has a story, a reason + a million and one excuse..

BUT...<O:p</O:p

We're not discussing whether his actions to protect himself were right or wrong.. The question is whether he acted as a coward.. and the answer is 'YES'.

Everyone has a story, a reason + a million and one excuse..

BUT...<O:p</O:p

We're not discussing whether his actions to protect himself were right or wrong.. The question is whether he acted as a coward.. and the answer is 'YES'.

whatever *******. Your full of ****, I condede to an inch and you want to take a mile. Protecting yourself from serious injury is not neccessarily acting like a coward its acting sensibly. Vertebre injuries are alot more serious than rotator cuff injuries and especially against Mike Tyson they are particularly dangerous. YOu want to talk about who is a true coward, then mention Vitali Klistchko for not finishing the fight with Chris Byrd. Against Tyson Golota was dealing with a much more dangerous fighter, and more a more serious arm injury, then you can add a vertebre injury into it as well. Quitting against Chris Byrd just because your arm hurts a little bit from a rotator cuff injury is less than pathetic. Golota hurt his arm against Byrd but he still finished the fight. He almost needed shoulder surgery after that fight but he did not quit on his stool like your man did.

Seriously qutting against Chris Byrd because your arm huts a little bit, that is truly less than pathetc :rolleyes:

If you want to say no excuse has any validity than fine. Its alot better to be on the books having quit against Mike Tyson following a car wreck, or with no excuses at all, than quitting against the likes of Chris Byrd.


Thowing stones from a glass house is lousy idea

whatever *******. Your full of ****, I condede to an inch and you want to take a mile. Protecting yourself from serious injury is not neccessarily acting like a coward its acting sensibly. Vertebre injuries are alot more serious than rotator cuff injuries and especially against Mike Tyson they are particularly dangerous. YOu want to talk about who is a true coward, then mention Vitali Klistchko for not finishing the fight with Chris Byrd. Against Tyson Golota was dealing with a much more dangerous fighter, and more a more serious arm injury, then you can add a vertebre injury into it as well. Quitting against Chris Byrd just because your arm hurts a little bit from a rotator cuff injury is less than pathetic. Golota hurt his arm against Byrd but he still finished the fight. He almost needed shoulder surgery after that fight but he did not quit on his stool like your man did.
Hey dickface! You watch your little dirty mouth on your replies!

He never should have taken the fight if he was injured "especially against Mike Tyson" But I guess the nation is just not blessed with brains to understand it!
He walked out of the fight like the biggest ***** I've seen and you will not change my opinion!
He could have finished the round and not continue!

I'm through talking with you now, you're not worth another second of my time!

Hey dickface! You watch your little dirty mouth on your replies!

He never should have taken the fight if he was injured "especially against Mike Tyson" But I guess the nation is just not blessed with brains to understand it!
He walked out of the fight like the biggest ***** I've seen and you will not change my opinion!
He could have finished the round and not continue!

I'm through talking with you now, you're not worth another second of my time!

YOu cant respond to my points to so you revert to calling me dickface. Then you have the audacity to question my intelligence, a ****ing turd like you, questioning my intelligence, :rolleyes:

Learn how to debate properly before even considering directing another post anywhere near my direction cunt.

Jones Tarver 2.

Jones could have gotten up any time he wanted to. Instead he takes a nap, and a paycheck.

Disgracefull.


Very well put. You are right on the money with that one.

Very well put. You are right on the money with that one.
Roy did get up, and he was out on his feet....

I guess Trevor Berbock "quit" against Mike Tyson, by that reasoning

Also Riddick Bowe truly lost to my boy Billy Zumbrum!


Yes he did. Zumbrum whooped Bowes fat ass all up and down that ring. I hope we see more of Billy "The Kid".

Also Riddick Bowe truly lost to my boy Billy Zumbrum!


Yes he did. Zumbrum whooped Bowes fat ass all up and down that ring. I hope we see more of Billy "The Kid".
Bowe isn't heartless or shameful, he's just a lard-a$$, and Billy Zumbrun proved that he's a complete zero by not being able to floor Big Daddy when he had the chance, that fight was dispicable either way, I hope they both retire

Seriously qutting against Chris Byrd because your arm huts a little bit, that is truly less than pathetc :rolleyes:

If you want to say no excuse has any validity than fine. Its alot better to be on the books having quit against Mike Tyson following a car wreck, or with no excuses at all, than quitting against the likes of Chris Byrd.


Thowing stones from a glass house is lousy idea

Arm hurt a little bit? Are you ****ting me? I'd like to see you fight with a torn rotator cuff, tough guy.

I will fight with a torn Rotator cuff against Chris Byrd. Before I will fight with Andrew Golota's shoulder injury and neck injury against MIke Tyson.

What if Golota did not quit against Tyson though, and took another punch that served to make his neck injury worse. It could have permanently ended his career if he tried to stay in and took more big punches. He quit and looked bad that time but at least in doing so he preserved himself to go on to fight another day, for Championship paydays.
Interesting. Golota gets bashed at every opportunity because he said "**** it" against Mike. Then there's Mike who wandered into the ring against Lennox knowing goddamned well he wasn't gonna' do squat, but stood in front of Lennox to get a payday, and possibly another payday.

If you follow the logic in someof the posts, seems we're supposed to give Mike credit for providing us with a glimpse at his self-destruction, but we're supposed to shun Golota for saying "**** you" and walking away to fight another day.

Golota is still in the fight game, Mike is not. Golota kills Mike today or any day in the near future. Does he redeem himself for quitting, NO. Boxing fans wanted to see Golota "give" us his blood, which really doesn't make sense if the guy is really not going to fight, like Mike did against Lennox.

Mike and Golota are a bit the same that way, Golota quits on his feet and doesn't give us much of a show, Mike quits on his back after giving us nothing either. Mike got paid for a beating, Golota said you can't pay me enough for this ****. He walked out knowing he wasn't gonna' get a penny.

Interesting. Golota gets bashed at every opportunity because he said "**** it" against Mike. Then there's Mike who wandered into the ring against Lennox knowing goddamned well he wasn't gonna' do squat, but stood in front of Lennox to get a payday, and possibly another payday.

If you follow the logic in someof the posts, seems we're supposed to give Mike credit for providing us with a glimpse at his self-destruction, but we're supposed to shun Golota for saying "**** you" and walking away to fight another day.

Golota is still in the fight game, Mike is not. Golota kills Mike today or any day in the near future. Does he redeem himself for quitting, NO. Boxing fans wanted to see Golota "give" us his blood, which really doesn't make sense if the guy is really not going to fight, like Mike did against Lennox.

Mike and Golota are a bit the same that way, Golota quits on his feet and doesn't give us much of a show, Mike quits on his back after giving us nothing either. Mike got paid for a beating, Golota said you can't pay me enough for this ****. He walked out knowing he wasn't gonna' get a penny.
plus, Golota's white, which solves all wrongs in the boxing world :)

Thoughts on this thread:

- C'mon. That was a legit body shot from Hopkins. And, if
Delahoya was looking to "throw" the fight to Bernard there
are 101 other scenarios that he could have used that would
made him look better than THAT. :rolleyes:

- I was outraged as anybody at Golota's actions in the
Tyson fight, but looking at the medical records afterwards
& seeing how messed up Golota actually was before & after
I'm more apt to blame the promoters & the commission for
that debacle.

- Seldon deserves FAR more heat. He didn't even have the
balls to take a legitimate shot. He just went in & laid
down!

- If any of you doubters & haters had ever actually
suffered from a torn rotator cuff, you'd know that the mild
jostling of walking up or down a flight a stairs or just
sneezing is enough to send you to your knees...
We're not talking X-BOX or Playstation2 gaming here
fellas. We're talking BOXING.

plus, Golota's white, which solves all wrongs in the boxing world :)
Meaning ..... ?

Arm hurt a little bit? Are you ****ting me? I'd like to see you fight with a torn rotator cuff, tough guy.

nard fought the echols fight from the 4th round on, with a dislocated shoulder.

Gatti fought the Ward fight with a broken hand.

Raymond joval fought an entire fight with a broken jaw.

Vitali is the largest ***** in boxing, bar none. Face it. (physically biggest)

nard fought the echols fight from the 4th round on, with a dislocated shoulder.

Gatti fought the Ward fight with a broken hand.

Raymond joval fought an entire fight with a broken jaw.

Vitali is the largest ***** in boxing, bar none. Face it.

i agree, did anyone ever see what danny williams shoulder looked like in that fight with potter? much much worse than vitali's injury, vitali is a *****, so is wlad, i used to like vitali,but the *** fights once a year, and he is postponing his fight with rahman in the hopes that rock will lose his motivation and get fat again. Vitali knows rock will kayo him if he comes to the fight in shape

The most shameful display of cowardice? Well, your in luck, I actually have a mini video of the biggest coward in the history of the sport. Watch closely...you don't want to miss this.
http://www.boxingscene.com/media/uploads/13005/lol.gif

credit given to Davico for finding that image

i agree, did anyone ever see what danny williams shoulder looked like in that fight with potter? much much worse than vitali's injury, vitali is a *****, so is wlad, i used to like vitali,but the *** fights once a year, and he is postponing his fight with rahman in the hopes that rock will lose his motivation and get fat again. Vitali knows rock will kayo him if he comes to the fight in shape

Wladimir is not a *****. He never quit a fight. You cant blame him for getting knocked out, like warrior blamed Roy. Wlad got up from being knocked down, several times in his career. He showed a tremendous amount of heart, in doing so.

nard fought the echols fight from the 4th round on, with a dislocated shoulder.

Gatti fought the Ward fight with a broken hand.

Raymond joval fought an entire fight with a broken jaw.

Vitali is the largest ***** in boxing, bar none. Face it.
I have had a partial rotator cuff tear and it was pretty bad.

Trouble is, I still had to go to work the next day and the day after that .....

Vitali needed to stay in their for what, a couple more rounds? Seems a bit like Golota walking outn of the ring, except Viatli sat in a chair and gave up. Thats not the kind of **** that wins the hearts of fight fans. Sure it hurt, sure it was bad, but we're looking for tough guys in the fight game. Vitali has done some things to redeem himself, like allowing Lennox to open him up for 40 stitches and not quitting, but other than that, he's not responded like a Champ when faced with adversity.

The most shameful display of cowardice? Well, your in luck, I actually have a mini video of the biggest coward in the history of the sport. Watch closely...you don't want to miss this.
http://www.boxingscene.com/media/uploads/13005/lol.gif

credit given to Davico for finding that image


who was the guy running? and the guy who hit him?

who was the guy running? and the guy who hit him?
It's a tough guy fight, overmatched. Except for the boxing gloves, this doesn't belong on a boxing site.

this doesn't belong on a boxing site.

Neither do limp-wristed hockey fans.

ali vs liston 2

HOLILSTER THATS THE ONE MATE BUT NOT A PIC ITS AMOVIE FILE

ARK THAT WAS A REAL MATCH MATE. :eek:

Thanks JPW, I can't imagine doing that even if I was losing lol

nard fought the echols fight from the 4th round on, with a dislocated shoulder.

Gatti fought the Ward fight with a broken hand.

Raymond joval fought an entire fight with a broken jaw.

Vitali is the largest ***** in boxing, bar none. Face it. (physically biggest)

A dislocation & a torn rotator cuff are two completely different things. Once the shoulder is out of joint it hurts, sure, but it's NOTHING compared to a rotator cuff tear.
Believe me. I've been through both. I know first hand.

i agree, did anyone ever see what danny williams shoulder looked like in that fight with potter? much much worse than vitali's injury, vitali is a *****, so is wlad, i used to like vitali,but the *** fights once a year, and he is postponing his fight with rahman in the hopes that rock will lose his motivation and get fat again. Vitali knows rock will kayo him if he comes to the fight in shape

Again, each individual & each injury is different.
And, a cuff tear & a dislocation are very different injuries.
Trust me.

A dislocation & a torn rotator cuff are two completely different things. Once the shoulder is out of joint it hurts, sure, but it's NOTHING compared to a rotator cuff tear.
Believe me. I've been through both. I know first hand.
I don't know about a torn rotator cuff, but I have dislocated my shoulder 3 times and that **** is the worst. I couldn't imagine fighting with a disloctaed shoulder. If you can do it, then more power to you, but if you can't liek most people can't, then I couldn't fault anyone for not continuing to fight in that shape...RWK's obviously has something against vitali...

Also, just to add a little bit of credit to Vitali...

A guy of that weight with a dislocated shoulder or torn cuff will have a hell of a harder time continuing than say, a flyweight. The extra weight on the heavyweight's arm makes the pain all that much worse.

I have had a partial rotator cuff tear and it was pretty bad.

Trouble is, I still had to go to work the next day and the day after that .....

Vitali needed to stay in their for what, a couple more rounds? Seems a bit like Golota walking outn of the ring, except Viatli sat in a chair and gave up. Thats not the kind of **** that wins the hearts of fight fans. Sure it hurt, sure it was bad, but we're looking for tough guys in the fight game. Vitali has done some things to redeem himself, like allowing Lennox to open him up for 40 stitches and not quitting, but other than that, he's not responded like a Champ when faced with adversity.

OK, I respect your opinion on this a bit more as someone who's been through the injury...
So, imagine having a full tear & having already gone through several rounds with it & facing the prospect of having to go through a couple-few more with it against another world class pugilist intent on taking your head off.

Hey, I wasn't too pleased with Vitali's decision back then myself. But, now in retrospect, especially how we've seen him respond in other adverse situations since, I feel comfortable with his explaination that he just could not continue.
I think a lot of the trouble with people's inability to accept his retiring in that contest was the fact that he did it in such a stoic manner. He displayed very little of the pain that he was in, therefore it came as a shock when he stayed in his corner. I think many of the people that criticize him so vehemently for it, would be a lot more forgiving if he'd outwardly displayed his pain & discomfort more.
Look at what I see as a REAL quitjob in Sharma Mitchell's retirement against Kostya Tszyu in their first fight.
It's clearly displayed on the video & audio that he's begging his corner to stop the fight for him, but then, during the post fight interviews he claimed that he wanted to continue & that his corner wouldn't allow him to blah, blah, blah...
Yet Mitchell doesn't get NEARLY as much flack as Klitschko does for retiring in his corner because Sharmba put on such a big display with his pain, writhing & moaning & crying & all that. :rolleyes:

OK, I respect your opinion on this a bit more as someone who's been through the injury...
So, imagine having a full tear & having already gone through several rounds with it & facing the prospect of having to go through a couple-few more with it against another world class pugilist intent on taking your head off.

Hey, I wasn't too pleased with Vitali's decision back then myself. But, now in retrospect, especially how we've seen him respond in other adverse situations since, I feel comfortable with his explaination that he just could not continue.
I think a lot of the trouble with people's inability to accept his retiring in that contest was the fact that he did it in such a stoic manner. He displayed very little of the pain that he was in, therefore it came as a shock when he stayed in his corner. I think many of the people that criticize him so vehemently for it, would be a lot more forgiving if he'd outwardly displayed his pain & discomfort more.
Look at what I see as a REAL quitjob in Sharma Mitchell's retirement against Kostya Tszyu in their first fight.
It's clearly displayed on the video & audio that he's begging his corner to stop the fight for him, but then, during the post fight interviews he claimed that he wanted to continue & that his corner wouldn't allow him to blah, blah, blah...
Yet Mitchell doesn't get NEARLY as much flack as Klitschko does for retiring in his corner because Sharmba put on such a big display with his pain, writhing & moaning & crying & all that. :rolleyes:
Klitschko gets more heat than Mitchell because Mitchell has never been respected period, Klitschko was supposed to be a God and then he quit vs. Byrd; when Mitchell quit vs. Tszyu, nobody blinked nor cared, because hw wasn't all that good to begin with (he won his title vs. Khalid Rahilou....no seriously....) THAT's why Quitali takes more heat 4 his actions

Bowe isn't heartless or shameful, he's just a lard-a$$, and Billy Zumbrun proved that he's a complete zero by not being able to floor Big Daddy when he had the chance, that fight was dispicable either way, I hope they both retire

You're probably right about them both needing to retire, but Bowe's never been KO'd. Dropped but not KO'd.

You're probably right about them both needing to retire, but Bowe's never been KO'd. Dropped but not KO'd.


**** you and Sac Town. Billy Zumbrum is the man! I rarely use the bad Karma button but I'm busting it out for this one.

Corrales V.S. Freitas was pathetic IMO.

That was just ridiculous. Acelino acted like he was ok to fight, and started to point blame at the corner.....and used odd body language. He then got hammered......and quit outright. I never forgave him for that.

I forgave William Joppy right after the Taylor fight, because he is one of my favorite fighters, and has been for a long time now. He was just completely frustrated and outgunned....not to mention battling injuries.

Freitas simply quit from being outgunned.

Yeah freitas was pretty shamefull,especially how he kept spitting out his mouthpiece just to get some time,all that **** just to quit? Pshhhhh.

Billy Zumbrum should definitely not retire. Bowe needs to rematch the guy once he's gotten himself into better shape and prove that he hasn't slipped THAT much.

I like Bill from what I've seen during the Bowe fight and I hope he can make some money before he leaves the sport.

Neither do limp-wristed hockey fans.
First .... Canuck doesn't have anything to do with NHL, except there is a team on the west coast. Second, are you stalking me? Keep it up SLIP, your short-bus wit will keep everybody entertained.

Oscar De Lay Hoya running from Trinidad for the last three rounds. What makes it even more shameful is that if he didn't run, DLH very well could have won those rounds. But he wussed out.

joppy vs taylor because joppy didnt fight.....

The most shameful display of cowardice, IMO is when Golota quit after the second round vs Mike Tyson. Golota that night discraced himself and the sport. Enough said. :mad:

**** you and Sac Town. Billy Zumbrum is the man! I rarely use the bad Karma button but I'm busting it out for this one.

I really don't see any reason for that type of ****, dude.

I would expect it from an idiot like Jabby, I thought you were a little more level-headed...

Meh...everyone picked the good ones. So I'll pick David Tua barely grazing Obed Sullivan and he sat down on the ropes and let himself get counted out.

I really don't see any reason for that type of ****, dude.

I would expect it from an idiot like Jabby, I thought you were a little more level-headed...


When you start bringing a little more into this forum.....then you can call others "idiots".
I've read your posts, & you have the boxing insight of a professional wrestling fan. Meaning- uh, about ZERO.

All this.....because I rightfully told that catskills kid to cut it.
Your defense of him & his inane thread showed me you're not very bright. You're really nothing but a kiss-ass, hollister.

I don't remember who the fight was against, but I thought it was pretty cowardly when Wladimir Klitschko quit at the end of a fight that he was dominating because he hurt his shoulder. All he had to do was go back out and stand there and he would have won the fight, but he quit instead. Not much heart shown there.

I don't remember who the fight was against, but I thought it was pretty cowardly when Wladimir Klitschko quit at the end of a fight that he was dominating because he hurt his shoulder. All he had to do was go back out and stand there and he would have won the fight, but he quit instead. Not much heart shown there.

Chris Byrd. He's a heavyweight with middleweight punches.

I don't remember who the fight was against, but I thought it was pretty cowardly when Wladimir Klitschko quit at the end of a fight that he was dominating because he hurt his shoulder. All he had to do was go back out and stand there and he would have won the fight, but he quit instead. Not much heart shown there.
that was vitali klitchko

i don't remember his name but rahman fought someone last year on ballroom boxing, this guy went down everytime rahman evan acted like he was going to throw A punch

i don't remember his name but rahman fought someone last year on ballroom boxing, this guy went down everytime rahman evan acted like he was going to throw A punch
That's what i put,i think his name was Mario Cawley.

That's what i put,i think his name was Mario Cawley.

i didn't read the whole thread.
But yeah thats sounds about right, that has the be the worst i have everseen, I remember they where trying to refuse to pay that guy.

Most shameful display of cowardice is Toney not accepting a rematch with Ruiz yet!

Biggest cowardly move made in a boxing ring was Tyson biting Holyfield. Fear and terror gripped Tyson's face when he realized he was not going to beat Evander Holyfield so he did a shameful act in order to get out of that fight because he was getting hurt!

Tyson wasn't scared of Holyfield. He was thinking "oh **** if I win this I'll have to fight that new up and comer named Ruiz who has real talent and can actually hurt me! I better dip out."

Definately Golota vs Tyson.

Somebody will say Golota vs Tyson so I will make excuses in advance. In the first Round and 2nd round Golota absorbed alot of clean very hard power shots from Tyson in particular the clean overhand right that put him on the canvas. One of the punches that Golota took in that injured his neck and skull.

Also it should be mentioned that Golota should not have been in this fight at all because he had recently injured his left shoulder in car accident and his left jab was always his main weapon. He was injured and felt and outclassed without having his main weapon in his arsenal and that is why he quit. It was horrible display Golota had against Tyson for any Golota fan but he does have legitimate excuses. I felt so sorry for him when he walking off and people were throwing **** at him from the stands and then in the locker room, the interview they had with him made me want to cry. The guy has a studdering problem and does not speak English that good because of that, and the interview was meant to make him look so bad.

Golota got in a car accident after the Tyson fight. Thats why he took a break off boxing. It boxing pal, it's the fighters decision if to be or not to be in the ring. And to me Golota seemed ok in the fight until he got tagged and went down. After that bad memories flashed in his head, and he quit in one of the most disgraceful performances/acts in all of boxing.

duran leonard 2 ***** couldnt handle the sugar

nard fought the echols fight from the 4th round on, with a dislocated shoulder.

Gatti fought the Ward fight with a broken hand.

Raymond joval fought an entire fight with a broken jaw.

Vitali is the largest ***** in boxing, bar none. Face it. (physically biggest)

That ***** would tear you a new one, and I would like to see how many rounds you would be able to fight with your eye popping out? Before you insult a warrior, who has proven to be tough, make sure you know what your talking about. I suggest renting the Lewis fight, that will show you whose a *****.

The greatest cowardice is to avoid fighting someone, and then say bad cruel and mean words about the fighter they are avoiding. I feel to avoid fighting someone and then still say they can always beat that fighter they are avoiding is the greatest cowardice.

The greatest cowardice is to avoid fighting someone, and then say bad cruel and mean words about the fighter they are avoiding. I feel to avoid fighting someone and then still say they can always beat that fighter they are avoiding is the greatest cowardice.

That's how every so called champ in the HW division treated Ruiz. Talked **** about him but no one answered his call to unify the belt. Why? Because they're all scared *****ed. Cowards one and all. Toney sucks too but at least he stepped up.

biggest cowardly and shamefull act was james butler vs. richard grant this fight was on espn fnf butler lost a decision to grant after the decision was announced butler started to walk towards grant, grant goes to give him a hug and say good fight when butler laid him out with a punch gloves off to say the least grant was knocked the f$%%^@ out !!!

i'll have to say, luis santana's two wins vs Terry Norris, that were won via DQ. i forget exactly how santana did it, I think in one fight he took a knee and Norris punched him, and santana faked being KO'd. then they rematched, norris hit him after the bell, and he fell down ,(acting unconscious, they were soft, soft punches)

pretty sure thats how it went.

I've read your posts, & you have the boxing insight of a professional wrestling fan. Meaning- uh, about ZERO..

The opinion of a bonafide idiot


All this.....because I rightfully told that catskills kid to cut it.

Um no, because all you ever do is attack others' opinions, that's all you have ever brought to this forum. I don't kiss ass, I get along with those who get along with me and make an effort to have some sort of intelligent debate about boxing without name-calling or attacking someone else's opinion. So shut your dick-nibbler calling me a kiss-ass, *****.

biggest cowardly and shamefull act was james butler vs. richard grant this fight was on espn fnf butler lost a decision to grant after the decision was announced butler started to walk towards grant, grant goes to give him a hug and say good fight when butler laid him out with a punch gloves off to say the least grant was knocked the f$%%^@ out !!!
yes i agree with that one, that was disgusting, butler should have been banned for life for that

yes i agree with that one, that was disgusting, butler should have been banned for life for that

Isn't that the same guy that killed Kellerman's brother?

Orlin Norris against Vitali and Fabio Moli against Wladimir.Jameel Mccline vs Wladimir Klitschko man Mccline wasnt even getting hit that hard and wasnt even hurt bad and kept going down, and also Eliseo Castillo vs Wladimir Klitschko, Castillo didint even wana fight just layed back against the ropes and took a lot of pounding then finally went down from a solid right hand that a lot of HW's now wouldnt go down from..

I'll tell you, all of the examples on page 1 were terrible, save for Bruce Seldon. The criteria I use are the importance of a bout, the reason, and the flow of the bout. I feel anyone who quits in a big bout, unless the injury is life or career threatening, is a quitter. Vitali retired against Byrd because he felt his shoulder injust was career threatening, although I would have fought on given the lack of pop to Chris Byrd. If a fighter quits because he has mental issues, I genarally give them a bye on that one as well. Oliver McCall in the Lennox Lewis rematch didn't really quit, he just had real issues going on in his life. When a guy quits or tries to get out of his commitment because the bout isn't going his way, that is cowardly. Hector Camacho Jr. comes to mind. Here are some candidates, in no particular order:

1. Genaro Hernandez, against Oscar De La Hoya. it's a hurt sport, so your nose is broken. How about if Marquez quit in the second round against Pacquiao, would that be nice?
2. Hector Camacho Jr., against Jesse James Leija. Aww, poor baby is cut and the old man is putting too much pressure on me. What ever will I do?
3. Julio Cesar Chavez, against Frankie Randall II. See above.
4. Julio Cesar Chavez, against Oscar De La Hoya II. I don't care how old you are. If you are a Ring Warrior, you behave like one.
5. Buster Douglas, against Evander Holyfield. You should've just given up the title. You don't waste other peoples money and disgrace the heavyweight title and it's honor by fighting like that.
6. Acelino Freitas, against Diego Corrales. I would never pull some **** like that unless I felt my life was seriously in danger, and well before that Lucky would've thrown in the towel. Freitas has the balls to quit and walk back to his corner on steady legs?
7. Derrick Gainer, against Juan Manuel Marquez. That was just disgusting. I don't recall him making one serious attempt at hitting Marquez, and then he more or less quits through a technical decision. If I was Juan Manuel, I wouldn't have shaken his hand after the bout. I don't shake the hands of men without integrity.

buster douglas, he took one punch for holy and quit like a *****

Yeah that was either a fix or etienne decided to take the $ and a nap.

Taking out your mouthpiece after supposedly being KO'd? Hah.

eh, no.

i'd have to say clifford etienne vs. mike tyson.

I agree with alot of these but not Duran VS Sugar and not Jones Vs Tarver. In the Duran fight SRL was beating ass all over the place and Duran said" **** it live to fight another day. And RJJ took a bomb on the chin and got up on wobbled legs that is not being a coward.

Camacho Jr. vs. J.J Leijas

Golata tyson, and oliver mcall vs. Lewis

Who cares? He chose this profession.. he's a boxer, a fighter and a warrior! How do you turn your back and walk out of a ring in a middle of a round???? Even when you're hurt.. take a punch and go down like a man... have your corner stop the round.. finish the round and call it quits.. I don't know… But don't leave like ***** in a middle of a fight! That's still a TKO loss and the most coward way of going into a fight and leaving!

This is not some corporate job that you can walk away from if you don't like it.. You have fan obligations and fans paid to see you fight and this is how you get you paycheck.

Now because of his coward way, Golota didn’t get paid and that’s 100% right!

Luckily for him, they reversed a decision to a ‘no contest’ for stupid “Tyson was found to have marijuana in his blood that evening” reason. Who can blame him after a fight like this.


Yes, I think this was the most coward fight I’ve ever seen
who are you to say that? i dont think youve ever been in the ring with mike tyson, much less with the extraodinary pain a damaged vertebrae causes, and an injured shoulder to boot. ****, your probably some skinny loser whos never even been in a fight. You could use your same logic as to why that garbage champ vitali quit against chris byrd. In a fight he was winning.

The greatest cowardice is to avoid fighting someone, and then say bad cruel and mean words about the fighter they are avoiding. I feel to avoid fighting someone and then still say they can always beat that fighter they are avoiding is the greatest cowardice.
Well spoken!Lewis is a ****ing *****!!!

Forget all the Golota's, McCall's, Seldon's, Freitas's of the world. De La Hoya is the biggest ***** of them all, reason being is if you compare the talent level of Oscar compared to the said names above. I mean what kind of "future hall of famer" quits like that, it's almost as bad as Seldon's invisible punch I mean in a way it was an invisible punch because it didn't even land on the supposed area...

Cassius Clay ducked George Foreman!!!!!!!!!4 yeaaaaaaarssss


He gave Frazier 2 rematches
Norton 2 rematches
Spinks a rematch
how come no rematch for Foreman

Because it was a shamefull display of cowardice.






Foreman Knocked Joe Frazier out in 2 rounds
Knocked Norton out in like 3 rounds.

Yeah the post-loss wrapped hand sucker punch is about the wakest thing I've seen ina ring.

derrick gainer vs JMM... gainer was running scared before JMM ever landed a punch....

Calvin Grove Vs Tszyu was pretty weak. Though he did get knocked out cold eventually... so I suppose he was right to run.