once toney gets in there with huggles is gonna all over, ruiz will hug on toney like a big ole teddy bear. hell he might hug him so much toney might even turn gay! :boxing: .

Ruiz is going to get knocked out Sturm. That hugging tactic will not cut it against Toney's accurate punching. For one, he is not going to hold up against the uppercutts and hooks to the body that Toney will deal out, two, he doesnt have the lateral movement to avoid Toney. And one could even argue, three....that he has far inferior ring intelligence. This fight is a clear mismatch IMO.

toney is amde for hugging with that squishy body of his

I reckon Ruiz's power is underestimated... Rahman was notably backing off in their bout.

why is it that some people neglect to realise that Toney is one of the greatest boxers of our generation??

Strum bet me your 5 million or shut the **** up

Strum bet me your 5 million or shut the **** up

Yea Strum, I'll bet every point I have with you the day before the fight that Toney beats Ruiz.

Wanna take me up on that?
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Goodnight Toney, hello undisputed Heaveyweight Champion John "Hugs" Ruiz :D .

why is it that some people neglect to realise that Toney is one of the greatest boxers of our generation??

Because he got his ass beat twice by Montell Griffin. He should be one of the "better", but not "greatest". There is no room on that list for him.

id love to bet all my **** but i have others to worry about, but dont worry run, when it sturms time to fight in the us again ill make sure ill put my money where my mouth is

Let's go Ruiz!

why is it that some people neglect to realise that Toney is one of the greatest boxers of our generation??
If "our generation" includes the early 90's, when Toney was actually doing things right, then I agree with you. But, in those days, Toney was nowhere near the Heavy scene. Since arriving at the Heavy scene, he's beat up an old Holyfield and Danny Green. He had great skills at lighter weight and will bring some of them with him, but don't forget the guy is unaturally puffy and won't put on a show like he did against Holy.

I see it this way, if Toney beats Ruiz, I want it to be a vicious knockout so we don't have to see Ruiz anytime soon. And, if Ruiz beats Toney, I want it to be a vicious knockout so we don't have to see Toney anytime soon.

If "our generation" includes the early 90's, when Toney was actually doing things right, then I agree with you. But, in those days, Toney was nowhere near the Heavy scene. Since arriving at the Heavy scene, he's beat up an old Holyfield and Danny Green. He had great skills at lighter weight and will bring some of them with him, but don't forget the guy is unaturally puffy and won't put on a show like he did against Holy.

I see it this way, if Toney beats Ruiz, I want it to be a vicious knockout so we don't have to see Ruiz anytime soon. And, if Ruiz beats Toney, I want it to be a vicious knockout so we don't have to see Toney anytime soon.


......Holy **** I totally agree with that last paragraph of Munn's. If all goes well we won't have to see at least one of these guys after their fight. With our luck it will be an ugly and controversial fight that leads to one or two more of the same.

Rahman's chin is made out of doo-doo..

once toney gets in there with huggles is gonna all over, ruiz will hug on toney like a big ole teddy bear. hell he might hug him so much toney might even turn gay! :boxing: .

All I can say is that Toney will win...yeah thats right...talking about this fight is getting really boring. :D

id love to bet all my **** but i have others to worry about, but dont worry run, when it sturms time to fight in the us again ill make sure ill put my money where my mouth is


Bet your signature then.

Hugs and Kisses from Ruiz ...... its gonna be another one of those fights where the loser will be the boxing fans.....

Hopefully we will say goodbye to Ruiz...

Bet your signature then.

fine what u betting then?

Joe Boxer and Bozo, save some of your bets for after the weigh in. I want wait and see before I bet.

Joe Boxer and Bozo, save some of your bets for after the weigh in. I want wait and see before I bet.


I already said I wanted to bet the day before the fight, which would be after the weigh in.

I want to be able to bet the points I'll rack up in between now and then.

Are you saying you'll bet me?
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All i can say is uppercuts Ruiz lunges in to hug and bang its lights out. Toney 9th round ko.

I already said I wanted to bet the day before the fight, which would be after the weigh in.

I want to be able to bet the points I'll rack up in between now and then.

Are you saying you'll bet me?
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Yes if Toney comes in looking anything like he looked on the 15th.

......Holy **** I totally agree with that last paragraph of Munn's. If all goes well we won't have to see at least one of these guys after their fight. With our luck it will be an ugly and controversial fight that leads to one or two more of the same.
PBDS .... oh my god, I hadn't thought about a draw. That would be depressing.

Toney will win. Ruiz's hugging tactics wont work this time.

Ruiz is going to get knocked out Sturm. That hugging tactic will not cut it against Toney's accurate punching. For one, he is not going to hold up against the uppercutts and hooks to the body that Toney will deal out, two, he doesnt have the lateral movement to avoid Toney. And one could even argue, three....that he has far inferior ring intelligence. This fight is a clear mismatch IMO.

I ABSOLUTELY agree with you.
Anyone with a good, educated eye for boxing ( like us :D ) should be able to see that in this fight, Ruiz's penchant for grabbing & holding & leaning on his opponents ISN'T going to work like he's used to.
Toney's lack of height is actually going to be an asset in this fight as his lower center of gravity will allow him to nullify a lot of Ruiz's **** tactics. Toney will bend at the knees & step out to the left or the right while staying on Ruiz's chest, eliminating "The Quiet Man's" offense while being in perfect range to dig in his own uppercuts & hooks to the body. The biggest worry for Toney will be all the *****ing & complaining that Ruiz will do while trying to convince the ref that Toney's legit body blows are ,infact,low blows. :mad:

I ABSOLUTELY agree with you.
Anyone with a good, educated eye for boxing ( like us :D ) should be able to see that in this fight, Ruiz's penchant for grabbing & holding & leaning on his opponents ISN'T going to work like he's used to.
Toney's lack of height is actually going to be an asset in this fight as his lower center of gravity will allow him to nullify a lot of Ruiz's **** tactics. Toney will bend at the knees & step out to the left or the right while staying on Ruiz's chest, eliminating "The Quiet Man's" offense while being in perfect range to dig in his own uppercuts & hooks to the body. The biggest worry for Toney will be all the *****ing & complaining that Ruiz will do while trying to convince the ref that Toney's legit body blows are ,infact,low blows. :mad:
Great post brother, I agree with all of your hypothetical's concerning their style, I PRAY that Toney can avoid Johnny Louise's homo-erotic tendencies by staying low and counter-punching....

do you ever get the feeling that Johnny Louise trains for his fights in a 20 x 20 mattress with Croney Stone, and that they cuddle and pillowfight afterwards? It's getting disturbing....

Goodnight Toney, hello undisputed Heaveyweight Champion John "Hugs" Ruiz :D .


People like you only bring down the sport. You only root for hispanic people, and when a white guy or a black guy does something good, you belittle it.

just another fake ass, ***** made, racist little never-was punk.

I love puerto rico..but PR's like you make me want to order 9-10 soft tacos from taco bell, wait 3 hr, then take a **** in the PR water supply. if i knew you irl, id piss on your head.

I ABSOLUTELY agree with you.
Anyone with a good, educated eye for boxing ( like us :D ) should be able to see that in this fight, Ruiz's penchant for grabbing & holding & leaning on his opponents ISN'T going to work like he's used to.
Toney's lack of height is actually going to be an asset in this fight as his lower center of gravity will allow him to nullify a lot of Ruiz's **** tactics. Toney will bend at the knees & step out to the left or the right while staying on Ruiz's chest, eliminating "The Quiet Man's" offense while being in perfect range to dig in his own uppercuts & hooks to the body. The biggest worry for Toney will be all the *****ing & complaining that Ruiz will do while trying to convince the ref that Toney's legit body blows are ,infact,low blows. :mad:


God, I hope you're right lol

People like you only bring down the sport. You only root for hispanic people, and when a white guy or a black guy does something good, you belittle it.

just another fake ass, ***** made, racist little never-was punk.

I love puerto rico..but PR's like you make me want to order 9-10 soft tacos from taco bell, wait 3 hr, then take a **** in the PR water supply. if i knew you irl, id piss on your head.
Haha, poor guy, I think he is mad at me. :bottle:
I'm your P.I.M.P.

Ruiz is going to get knocked out Sturm. That hugging tactic will not cut it against Toney's accurate punching. For one, he is not going to hold up against the uppercutts and hooks to the body that Toney will deal out, two, he doesnt have the lateral movement to avoid Toney. And one could even argue, three....that he has far inferior ring intelligence. This fight is a clear mismatch IMO.
I must agree
well im not really sure
but for the sake of boxing and the HW division
John Ruiz better get Knocked the **** out.