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all i got to say is


greatest ever

all i got to say is


greatest ever

well, 2nd greatest to GSP :D

Penn just looked in another league last night totally outclassed Sanchez did he even get hit once?

And what made me laff was how diegos im hard face wore off round by round
lol

Penn just looked in another league last night totally outclassed Sanchez did he even get hit once?

And what made me laff was how diegos im hard face wore off round by round
lol

yeah gully that face slowly getting beat up was such a picture lol

Wow great performance my BJ and Frank. BJ was in class of his own tonight, I dont think theirs anymore to prove in lightweight. A fight w/ Maynard and Griffen would yield a similar outcome imo.
Either the UFC acquire top overseas comp like Aoki, Alvarez, or BJ steps up to WW and test the waters against a Fitch or Kos. A fight w/ Jose Aldo would be exciting as well, if Jose ever moved up in weight.

yeah gully that face slowly getting beat up was such a picture lol

The way Rogan tried to downplay it like Sanchez pulls that face because he really feels that anger bull**** lol No Rogan his a div who thinks by pulling that face its actually gonna scare folks

And it faded more and more round after round...

well, 2nd greatest to GSP :D

hes had a better career and better skills than that greaser

i just have to say that i called every fight exactly how it happened with the exception of the bj fight.

I only wish i couldve posted my thoughts...

I said that:
"kenny Florian is either going to ko guida rd one, or choke him out in rd 2"

"As soon as Mir and Kongo hit the ground, It'll be over within a min"

"Jon fitch will win a decision"

i was on point. i couldve won some $$

all i got to say is


greatest ever

Not really. (No Hater) but he's far from being the greatest ever.

hes had a better career and better skills than that greaser

Wrong and Wrong.

If you want to get technical about career stats, Deigo Sanchez wasn't even ranked in the top 10 before last night. Kenny Florian I think was 5th or 6th.

Nobody beats top 10 quality fighters with more consistency than Georges.

Nobody.

Not really. (No Hater) but he's far from being the greatest ever.



Wrong and Wrong.

If you want to get technical about career stats, Deigo Sanchez wasn't even ranked in the top 10 before last night. Kenny Florian I think was 5th or 6th.

Nobody beats top 10 quality fighters with more consistency than Georges.

Nobody.

the 1st i meant lightweights but w.e

the 2nd i dont count diego and kenny as the best of his wins im refering to his other wins from earlier in his career

din thomas, caol uno, jens pulver, matt serra, matt hughes, gomi, 2 gracies(not great wins but winning at middleweight with 2 guys way bigger than him was impressive)1st fight with gsp(he was robbed) when he beat florian people were nuthugging kenny saying he has the better standup and will destroy bj but not anymore

he should be undefeated at lw if you look at 1st pulver fight at the last second before bell he taps to the armbar ref just didnt see it

if he took his training seriously he would have only lost to machida and gsp 2nd time


gsp fighting koscheck weight drained mayhem blown up sherk blown up serra and an old hughes hardly compare to bj resume


actually on 2nd thought bj is the greatest ever p4p

How was Miller weight drained? That doesn't make any sense

How was Sherk blown up? He fought at WW almost his entire career up until the win over Diaz

How was Hughes old? Isn't this the same Hughes that beat BJ?

Hughes wasn't old he was simply outclassed and failed to evolve.

BJ wasn't robbed by GSP either. Stop trying to use the Lindland "look at his face" excuse. GSP won that fight.


Uno
Gomi
Serra (very close fight)
Pulver after Pulver hadn't been relevant for years
Hughes
Sanchez
Florian

how does that surpass

Penn x2
Hughes x2
Miller
Trigg (when Trigg was ranked #2)
Sherk
Serra
Fitch
Koscheck
Alves

???

That's 3 Former and 1 current world champion.

I don't see how BJ's is more impressive.

How was Miller weight drained? That doesn't make any sense

How was Sherk blown up? He fought at WW almost his entire career up until the win over Diaz

How was Hughes old? Isn't this the same Hughes that beat BJ?

Hughes wasn't old he was simply outclassed and failed to evolve.

BJ wasn't robbed by GSP either. Stop trying to use the Lindland "look at his face" excuse. GSP won that fight.


Uno
Gomi
Serra (very close fight)
Pulver after Pulver hadn't been relevant for years
Hughes
Sanchez
Florian

how does that surpass

Penn x2
Hughes x2
Miller
Trigg (when Trigg was ranked #2)
Sherk
Serra
Fitch
Koscheck
Alves

???

That's 3 Former and 1 current world champion.

I don't see how BJ's is more impressive.

mayhem looked like he hasnt eaten in 65 yrs at 170
serra sherk are **** at 170
and i do think that penn won first fight...should have been 10-8 round draw at worst
i meant pulver the 1st fight bj won ref just didnt see it
and bj beat hughes at the time when he was the most dominant champ of all tiem at 170 and way bigge than bj
serra was close but still a good win as i think serra weighed in at 163 could be wrong though
trigg was crap and still is crap
koscheck and alves are not world beaters
fitch win and second hughes win was very impressive...for some reason i cant remember anything about 1st hughes win


bj dominated hughes 2 times and gassed 2nd time

we can go on all day if you want your not going to convince me that gsc(georges st. cheat-erre) has a better career than bj...maybe when its over but not now

btw getting dominated by serras standup is just embarassing

gsp is great he really is but not as much as bj
he also gave machida his best fight up until shogun
he beat hughes at his best and sherk and serra at their best weights
he made florian look like an amateur when he was suppose to be the man same with diego

mayhem looked like he hasnt eaten in 65 yrs at 170
serra sherk are **** at 170
and i do think that penn won first fight...should have been 10-8 round draw at worst
i meant pulver the 1st fight bj won ref just didnt see it
and bj beat hughes at the time when he was the most dominant champ of all tiem at 170 and way bigge than bj
serra was close but still a good win as i think serra weighed in at 163 could be wrong though
trigg was crap and still is crap
koscheck and alves are not world beaters
fitch win and second hughes win was very impressive...for some reason i cant remember anything about 1st hughes win


bj dominated hughes 2 times and gassed 2nd time

we can go on all day if you want your not going to convince me that gsc(georges st. cheat-erre) has a better career than bj...maybe when its over but not now

btw getting dominated by serras standup is just embarassing

gsp is great he really is but not as much as bj
he also gave machida his best fight up until shogun
he beat hughes at his best and sherk and serra at their best weights
he made florian look like an amateur when he was suppose to be the man same with diego

GSP does have better career accomplishments. It's not even arguable it's fact.

You really have no idea what you are talking about.

According to you, when guys fight BJ and win or lose, they are the best

But when they lose or win against GSP they are scrubs, old, anorexic.

LOL you're a joke. And anybody who thinks Deigo or Florian are in the same league as Penn, has the UFC marketing machine so far up their asses it's insane.

GSP is 2-1 against Hughes and 2-0 against Penn. That hardly makes Penn's career more impressive.

GSP has beaten better competition in his last one fight than BJ has in his last 3 fights.

LOL @ Alves, BJ and Fitch not being great fighters but old ass Renzo Gracie, Florian and Sanchez are.

I have nothing more to say, your nuthugging has gotten to a ridiculously blind level.

nobody should use the pulver rematch as proof of anything - bj wanted to fight pulver after he saw how punchy and shot jens is. the prime jens pulver would have knocked urijah faber the f.uck out with a left hook instead of losing by dec in a close fight to an overrated fighter

GSP does have better career accomplishments. It's not even arguable it's fact.

You really have no idea what you are talking about.

According to you, when guys fight BJ and win or lose, they are the best

But when they lose or win against GSP they are scrubs, old, anorexic.

LOL you're a joke. And anybody who thinks Deigo or Florian are in the same league as Penn, has the UFC marketing machine so far up their asses it's insane.

GSP is 2-1 against Hughes and 2-0 against Penn. That hardly makes Penn's career more impressive.

GSP has beaten better competition in his last one fight than BJ has in his last 3 fights.

LOL @ Alves, BJ and Fitch not being great fighters but old ass Renzo Gracie, Florian and Sanchez are.

I have nothing more to say, your nuthugging has gotten to a ridiculously blind level.

did you even read what i wrote? i never said that florian or diego were big wins
are you going to tell me that sherk and serra were better at 170 than at 155?
i said that fitch and bj were good wins for gsp
alves isnt a world beater and niether is koscheck
i said renzo and ralph were not big wins but it was impressive because they are way bigger than him
you didnt even read what i said and your insulting me? lol and i never said if they fight bj they are the best

hughes- most dominant champion maybe ever at the time and had no challengers bj whoops his ass he was 30 yrs old and still had good wins after that...gsp whoops his ass when he was 34 yrs old and since then he hasnt had a quality win since

serra- close fight but bj edged him out when he was young and at his best weight...gsp was dominated on the standup and tapped to strikes 15 lbs above serras best weight

sherk-again bj beats him at his best weight..just gsp beat him at a younger age

alves and koscheck- not great..good but not great they were like diego and florian as that they had no chance and ufc was building them up to be monsters who had a chance...seems like your the one believing the ufc hype machine not me by saying those were great wins

i dont listen to what the ufc says because they say anything to sell a fighter..i stick to my own logic...theres no reason to insult me im just arguing with you in a civil way it makes no sense to be tough tony behind a keyboard thats just childish

nobody should use the pulver rematch as proof of anything - bj wanted to fight pulver after he saw how punchy and shot jens is. the prime jens pulver would have knocked urijah faber the f.uck out with a left hook instead of losing by dec in a close fight to an overrated fighter

i agree i think they just put bj and him again to sell the fight as a grudge match and to sell tuf

and when i used pulver fight i was talking about the 1st fight
if you look closely he taps to the armbar right before the bell rings
ref just didnt see it..honest mistake

Great performance from Penn. As he continues to show why he is the greatest Lightweight of all time.

Every thing Diego could do, Penn could do better. And this was the story of the fight. Penn just totailly dominated him from start to finish.

Sanchez was battered and outstriked on the feet and I feel Penn could of got him out of there much quicker than he did. But credit to Sanchez he showed bags of heart to survive, especailly from that first round onslaught.

Every takedown from Sanchez was defended with ease. It must have been pretty dishearting and frustrating for him after so many takedowns had been defended or sprawled.

The kick in the 5th round that cut Sanchez was one of the most horrific cuts I've seen in a while. Diego's face was a complete mess. The fight was right to be stopped when it did.

But Sanchez's managers has said will be fine.......Which is good to hear.

As for who will next fight Penn. I just dont think there is a 155lb fighter in the UFC that has the tools or ability to defeat Penn. The top contenders seem to be Frankie Edgar and Gray Maynard.

Although both are good fighters with alot of potential, I cound't see either being a problem for Penn. As both are no better than Florian or Sanchez. I also feel the fights would be hard to sell, seeing how dominant Penn has been over the likes of Sanchez and Kenny.

And espeically considering that Edgar has already been defeat by Maynard and Maynard is coming of a SD victory over a rusty Roger Huerta and has only been training actual MMA since Jan 2006 and has already been defeated by Nate Diaz, who he will rematch in Feb.

Actually it was only 2/3 years ago that Penn was coaching Maynard on the Ultimate Fighter.

Eventually I would like Penn to move back up to 170lb. Not for a third fight with GSP, but fights with the likes of Alves, Fitch, Hardy etc. All would be great, fresh and challaging fights for BJ.

How was Miller weight drained? That doesn't make any sense

How was Sherk blown up? He fought at WW almost his entire career up until the win over Diaz

How was Hughes old? Isn't this the same Hughes that beat BJ?

Hughes wasn't old he was simply outclassed and failed to evolve.

BJ wasn't robbed by GSP either. Stop trying to use the Lindland "look at his face" excuse. GSP won that fight.


Uno
Gomi
Serra (very close fight)
Pulver after Pulver hadn't been relevant for years
Hughes
Sanchez
Florian

how does that surpass

Penn x2
Hughes x2
Miller
Trigg (when Trigg was ranked #2)
Sherk
Serra
Fitch
Koscheck
Alves

???

That's 3 Former and 1 current world champion.

I don't see how BJ's is more impressive.

Wasnt Trigg coming off his first round submission loss to Hughes?

Both guys are great fighters, and BJ deserves tons of credit for moving up in weight to fight guys like Hughes and GSP and giving them a run for their money, and even winning.
GSP has some great names on his resume but his losses are more telling imo.
Submitted by Hughes in 1 round and knocked out by Serra in one round.
BJ does not have losses like that, his most dominating defeats were in fights he moved up in weight to fight the current champions.

Wasnt Trigg coming off his first round submission loss to Hughes?

Both guys are great fighters, and BJ deserves tons of credit for moving up in weight to fight guys like Hughes and GSP and giving them a run for their money, and even winning.
GSP has some great names on his resume but his losses are more telling imo.
Submitted by Hughes in 1 round and knocked out by Serra in one round.
BJ does not have losses like that, his most dominating defeats were in fights he moved up in weight to fight the current champions.

Trigg was coming off of a submission loss to Hughes but at that period in time GSP wasn't ranked (or ranked very low can't remember), Trigg was ranked #2 and GSP raped him like he was an amateur, something Hughes couldn't do on two occasions.

BJ was also beat by Hughes with Jiu Jitsu and Wrestling how is that not embarrassing?

Secondly GSP wasn't knocked out by Serra, I fail to see anywhere in that fight where he lost consciousness and frankly, it's become annoying.

And he was beating Hughes up until his rookie mistake of over committing to a submission when he didn't have full control of it.

Lastly, I don't see how you could see the losses on his record as more telling than the top competition he continually decimates on the regular. And the fact that he has avenged both of those losses in the same manner that he lost them. (TKO'd Serra and submitted Hughes)


GSP does have a better resume than BJ.

Embarrassing losses are pretty irrelevant. I could not have an embarrassing loss on my record, but if I'm fighting and beating up irrelevant and unranked fighters, that doesn't make me better than the other guy with a ****load of top fighters that he's beaten and an embarrassing loss.

Hey guys, there is no greater Lightweight than Penn and there is no greater Welterweight than GSP. That's really the end of it, both of these dudes have and will continue to smoke anyone in their divisions. Comparing the two is kind of like comparing a quarterback to a linebacker. They've got huge contrast in both styles and size.

BJ looked like a G last night though, right before the 5th started I knew the fight was getting ended. Penn's body language was that of an Uruk-hai.

:439:

hes had a better career and better skills than that greaser

no way dude. GSP has had the better career for sure. with skills you have an argument, but no way can you say penn had a better career. GSP's resume beats Penn's.

the 1st i meant lightweights but w.e

the 2nd i dont count diego and kenny as the best of his wins im refering to his other wins from earlier in his career

din thomas, caol uno, jens pulver, matt serra, matt hughes, gomi, 2 gracies(not great wins but winning at middleweight with 2 guys way bigger than him was impressive)1st fight with gsp(he was robbed) when he beat florian people were nuthugging kenny saying he has the better standup and will destroy bj but not anymore

he should be undefeated at lw if you look at 1st pulver fight at the last second before bell he taps to the armbar ref just didnt see it

if he took his training seriously he would have only lost to machida and gsp 2nd time


gsp fighting koscheck weight drained mayhem blown up sherk blown up serra and an old hughes hardly compare to bj resume


actually on 2nd thought bj is the greatest ever p4p

lol, this is such an unbelievably delusional post.

first off, penn didn't get robbed, it was a close fight and gsp won it. 2nd, the hughes that you're calling old, beat penn, lol. so you indirectly dissed penn.

a win over old hughes >>>> losing to old hughes

weight drained koscheck? are you kidding me? gsp drains more weight than anyone in that division with the exception of Alves.

no disrespect to Penn because he is one of the greatest ever, but gsp is just greater.

Towards the whole Bj v GSP both are great fighters with well established careers.
However i feel that GSP's UFC exclusive and never having left his weight class career put BJ's accomplishments slightly above his.
Im not saying GSP could not move up 2 weight classes and beat guys larger than him cause he possibly could.
Fact remains he hasn't and BJ has.
GSP fights guys who the UFC hypes as top level opponents when often times they are not.

GSP is possibly the most complete fighter in MMA even more so than BJ

But when its all said and done people will look at BJ's resume with more awe because he dared to challenge himself.

Of course a GSP move to middle weight and a win over Silva would surpass all BJ Penn accomplishments by a large margin.

I haven't seen the fight yet but I'm so glad that Diego lost. :lol1: I can't stand that guy.

good card...Mir and Penn really took care of busines..

wtf is next for BJ tho...that lightweight division is done...he dominated that division....theres nothing else prove...

However i feel that GSP's UFC exclusive and never having left his weight class career put BJ's accomplishments slightly above his.
Im not saying GSP could not move up 2 weight classes and beat guys larger than him cause he possibly could.
Fact remains he hasn't and BJ has.

I don't see how this is means he's better than GSP in terms of career accomplishments. BJ hasn't beaten but more than one fighter of significance outside of his weight class.

I don't see anybody discrediting guys like Hughes or Liddell because they never moved out of their weight class.

GSP fights guys who the UFC hypes as top level opponents when often times they are not.

This is simply false. In fact it's the other way around. The past 6 fighters GSP has fought and beaten were ranked legitimate opponents, regardless if they got smashed, that doesn't make them any less credible, it just means GSP is on an entirely different level skill wise.

Of BJ Penn's last 6 opponents only 3 were ranked (GSP, Sherk, Florain) and he lost to one of those guys. You can't honestly tell me that Pulver, Sanchez and Stevenson were top level opponents. Compared to Fitch, Alves, Kos, Hughes and Penn himself. It's simply ludicrous.



But when its all said and done people will look at BJ's resume with more awe because he dared to challenge himself.

He dared to challenge himself and how many times did he come up short? At the end of the day, a win is more important. And the only solid win BJ had outside of LW was Hughes and that was over 5 years ago.

Ludwig, Renzo, and Rogdrigo aren't really anything to be in awe of.

He fought Machida but back then Machida isn't who he is today (which after the Shogun fight isn't anything too special anymore) and he didn't win.