After watching Pryor beat Arguello in the second fight, I'm reminded what a boxing historian said about Pryor: "He could go hang out with the Pope one night, and he would go smoke crack with some street thug the next" There is nothing more common in this world than wasted talent. Aaron Pryor was that. Alot of people think he could have beat both Leanord and Hearns (who he did as an amatuer) as a pro, but we will never know, because he was such a worthless piece of scum ****. I guess he'll just have to tell people how great he could have been. We can all do that. I hope all the CRACK you smoked Pryor was worth it.

After watching Pryor beat Arguello in the second fight, I'm reminded what a boxing historian said about Pryor: "He could go hang out with the Pope one night, and he would go smoke crack with some street thug the next" There is nothing more common in this world than wasted talent. Aaron Pryor was that. Alot of people think he could have beat both Leanord and Hearns (who he did as an amatuer) as a pro, but we will never know, because he was such a worthless piece of scum ****. I guess he'll just have to tell people how great he could have been. We can all do that. I hope all the CRACK you smoked Pryor was worth it.

The man was lightning quick and powerful...Hell of a fighter, he became attracted to the "evil" things most people do when they grow up in the ghetto and have no guidance but a bunch of blood sucking leeches. (Pryor was the mini-Tyson in that department)

He had all of the skills and I would loved to have him get it on with Meldrick Taylor with both of them in their primes...Imagine the combinations flying in that one?

When you got these names on your resume


Gary Hinton
Nick Furlano
Alexis Arguello X2
Sang Hyun Kim
Akio Kameda

Knocking Arguello out makes anybody great and he did it twice!!!
With the Hawks skills it is hard to swallow that he is worthless. He was a great fighter.

You can take the man out of the ghetto...but not the ghetto out of the man.

But, today, Aaron Pryor has turned his life around. He's not doin drugs anymore. I don't think he's as rich as he once was either....but I'm not sure.

tragic, ain't it?

You can take the man out of the ghetto...but not the ghetto out of the man.

But, today, Aaron Pryor has turned his life around. He's not doin drugs anymore. I don't think he's as rich as he once was either....but I'm not sure.


Aaron lives comfortably with his wife in Cincy...He isnt super rich neither is he super poor but has above ends meet. He is just an average guy these days...Very good man, I met him and Rubin Carter (hold your responses) last year when they spoke at my school and Aaron invited me to show him around and get some coffee and talk and I have kept in talks with his wife every now and then....Despite his negatives, I have the highest respect for HAWK TIME!

The man was lightning quick and powerful...Hell of a fighter, he became attracted to the "evil" things most people do when they grow up in the ghetto and have no guidance but a bunch of blood sucking leeches. (Pryor was the mini-Tyson in that department)

He had all of the skills and I would loved to have him get it on with Meldrick Taylor with both of them in their primes...Imagine the combinations flying in that one?

When you got these names on your resume


Gary Hinton
Nick Furlano
Alexis Arguello X2
Sang Hyun Kim
Akio Kameda

Knocking Arguello out makes anybody great and he did it twice!!!
With the Hawks skills it is hard to swallow that he is worthless. He was a great fighter.
Your point is well taken, but my point is that he wasted it as well. Sometimes the difference betwween a great fighter and a good fighter is such a small line. He probably wsa as talented as Hearns or Leanord, but he wasted it. That's his fault not ours. He could have fought Leanord, or HEarns, or Curry, but he chose crack. I hope it was worth it. Hearns never turned to crack, neither did Hagler, Pryor wasted his talent, simple as that. Of course he had talent, no one disputes that. But just like Paul Newman's character was told in the Hustler: jackie Gleason's character 'Minnestot Fats' had more character in his small finger than 'fast eddie' had in his whole body. Same can be said for Pryor, he had no character.

when fighters, or anyone else for that matter, gets to the top, not many of them can avoid the the temptations of partying - the drugs, the drugs, the drugs, and the hollywood sluts ( ohhh, the hollywood sluts )...pernell whitaker got burned out from partying too...aaaron was a great fighter ( without THE MIXTURE )

when fighters, or anyone else for that matter, gets to the top, not many of them can avoid the the temptations of partying - the drugs, the drugs, the drugs, and the hollywood sluts ( ohhh, the hollywood sluts )...pernell whitaker got burned out from partying too...aaaron was a great fighter ( without THE MIXTURE )

Lol Wonder if there was really anything in that bottle, or if it was just a mind game Panama was playing with Aaron to pump him up?

Your point is well taken, but my point is that he wasted it as well. Sometimes the difference betwween a great fighter and a good fighter is such a small line. He probably wsa as talented as Hearns or Leanord, but he wasted it. That's his fault not ours. He could have fought Leanord, or HEarns, or Curry, but he chose crack. I hope it was worth it. Hearns never turned to crack, neither did Hagler, Pryor wasted his talent, simple as that. Of course he had talent, no one disputes that. But just like Paul Newman's character was told in the Hustler: jackie Gleason's character 'Minnestot Fats' had more character in his small finger than 'fast eddie' had in his whole body. Same can be said for Pryor, he had no character.


Perhaps he never really met his full potential but the fights he had in his career leaves enough. Unfortunately he couldnt control his addiction like Leonard could (Leonard was still probably is a large coke head).

I just cant hate on the man for his superior speed and power as well as the grit he brought to the ring. All 39 of his fights were explosive and a lot of his fights were never disputed he just knocked guys out and thats what I like.

He got caught up in a time when partying and drugs were used heavily if you were a superstar or your average person...Everyone was addicted to something and he had the money to purchase the amount to feel his addiction and Pryor NEVER had any guidance throughout his whole career.

If it wasnt for his wife Frankie, he probably would have been dead years ago.

A prime Aaron Pryor would beat the hell out of everyone today.

He could have fought Leanord, or HEarns, or Curry, but he chose crack.

maybe he just got tired of chasing Leonard around, challenging him at press conferences, etc. he didnt fight srl because srl didnt want none of hawktime.

only arguello had the balls to fight the guy. srl fought at welterweight to get away from pryor.

aaron pryor is one of the best fighters i've seen ever... quick skilled and can take a punch... and there is no doubt in my mind that leonard went up in weight to avoid a fight with pryor.. unfortunate how drugs can take over a person..

After watching Pryor beat Arguello in the second fight, I'm reminded what a boxing historian said about Pryor: "He could go hang out with the Pope one night, and he would go smoke crack with some street thug the next" There is nothing more common in this world than wasted talent. Aaron Pryor was that. Alot of people think he could have beat both Leanord and Hearns (who he did as an amatuer) as a pro, but we will never know, because he was such a worthless piece of scum ****. I guess he'll just have to tell people how great he could have been. We can all do that. I hope all the CRACK you smoked Pryor was worth it.
How can u call my favorite fighter a piece of scum ****!

U dunno what Pryors gone through his life and he learned well from his mistakes...If I can meet one boxer in this world it would be him.......

He would be Leonard, Chavez, Taylor ....I doubt he'd beat hearns though

i wish i could give u all karma except for the hater

u guys all finally realise how good pryor was

and ya he had been chasin leonard since amateur years

That's why I don't like Leonard!

I wrote Pryor to ask him about fighting SRL:


I'm a big fan and can't say enough about what an inspiration your career was to me as a boxing fan. Your fights with Alexis Arguello were some of the best fights ever!

I had a question for you:

I was wondering if at any point you considered moving up to welter, and if you ever had a desire to fight Ray Leonard?

I don't know what the timing was like between 80-83 for both of you, but was there ever any discussions? Was it something you were interested in?

I know you would have given him hell!

Thanks Champ.


Here's the response I got from Mrs Pryor:



Thanks so much for writing. It's always great hearing from boxing fans, especially those in Canada. Without the fans, there would be no boxing! This is Frankie Pryor, Aaron's wife. I have to let you know that while Aaron may have had some of the best hands in the business, they aren't worth anything on a computer keyboard. Aaron doesn't even know how to turn on the computer so you get me as a go between.

First of all, I was a little scared to go ask Aaron your two questions. I knew that I was going to get an ear full reading your questions about his being hesitant to move up in weight or fight Ray! Let me tell you something about my husband. He was a warrior and had the desire to fight anyone, anywhere, anytime and at any weight. Aaron never held back on anything. That's what makes champions and that's why my husband was inducted into the International Boxing Hall of Fame at 41 years of age and named the #1 Jr. Welterweight of the Century by the Sports Writers Associated in 1999.

We just returned from an event in Washington, DC with Larry Holmes, Gerry Cooney, Joe Frazier, Leon & Michael Spinks, Carmen Basilio, Jake LaMotta, Hector Comacho, among others. We were having dinner one night and the conversation turned to how small the world of boxing really is. Once you get down to it, there are just a limited number of fighters at the top at any given time. Think about back in the 80's. The guys who were champs back then for the most part started out fighting in the amateur ranks together as kids. Pryor, Holmes, Michael Spinks, Leon Spinks, Ray Leonard, etc., all knew each other as teens and grew up together in the world of boxing. We stay in touch with each other on a regular basis still to this day. It's like a class reunion. All the wives are friends and it's a lot of fun. Back then when they were amateurs and early pro's, Aaron would live for months at a time at Ray Leonards' Mom's house -- training and sparring with Ray. From the time they turned pro to their retirement, Aaron hounded Ray for a fight. There were many, many discussions of a possible bout in the 80's between their managers. I'm not sure of your age, but every boxing event, every boxing magazine, every boxing show would have some mention of if that fight would ever happen between Aaron & Ray. Aaron would show up at Ray's press conferences, award dinners, etc., Angelo Dundee, Ray's trainer/manager, told us a couple of years ago that there was no way he would have ever let Ray fight Aaron. Contrary to what the public saw with all the arguing and bantering back and forth about a fight, Aaron and Ray have been great friends since they were kids and still are to this day. We see him 3-4 times a year and he's a terrific guy. Personally, I think that is the number one reason it never happened. They just knew each other too well. By the way, Aaron lost his job sparring with Ray when they first turned pro because he kept knocking Ray down. I do know that Aaron would have loved to fight Ray for real. FYI -- Alexis Arguello and Aaron are very close friends and have been since the Arguello/Pryor II. We went for a two week vacation to Nicaragua this past summer to visit him and help him campaign for Vice-Mayor of Managua. Kind of funny how life works out.

Thanks for the email!

Frankie Pryor

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I love Aaron Pryor as a fighter....he's my fav fighter ever

I wish I could meet him, that would be the coolest thing ever...

He was the greatest 140 pounder EVER

I also emailed him and got a msg from his wife, shes nice..

I asked if they had a shirt that said, "what time is it....HAWK TIME!!"

u guys all finally realise how good pryor was


Finally?

Ha! I knew he was unstoppable after he took Arguello's best shots in the first fight. And as a teen back then, I was rooting for Arguello. But Pryor was like a cross breed of the Terminator and Tazmanian Devil. Indestructible and a destroyer.

When he fought Arguello a second time, I was an Aaron Pryor fan.

Ahh....but the 80's was the glory years of the yayo. Aaron couldn't resist the yayo.

as a kid in the PI I did not know the hawk, but i know of Arguello who became one of my favorite after he beat and Koed my fighter Andy "The Hawian Punch" Ganigan who is a Fil-Am ...

But after i saw that destruction of Alexis, the sight is forever etched in my memory, and I think the Hawk is a legend in his own right...

maybe he just got tired of chasing Leonard around, challenging him at press conferences, etc. he didnt fight srl because srl didnt want none of hawktime.

only arguello had the balls to fight the guy. srl fought at welterweight to get away from pryor.

old wive's tale. Leonard did not duck Pryor. If Pryor could have kept his head straight, the fight might have happened later. Leonard had bigger fish to fry at that point. I doubt a guy who fought Duran,Hearns,Hagler would be afraid of little Pryor. Leonard wouldn't stand in front of the wild Pryor like Arguello did. He would outsmart Pryor and win a decision.

what time is it???? :D

the hawk is one of the greatest fighters of all time!!! the man was not intimidated by anyone.... hearns and leonard didn't want anything to do with pryor.... cause they knew that they were in for a nasty grueling fight. pryor never stopped throwing punches..ever! he would be all over you, until he broke you down. he could take a shot,and would walk through them like they didn't even happen. the man has a record of 39-1-35 ko's......and his only lose was after a 3 year layoff that was some of the darkest years of his life, and if you have seen the fight, you could see that it was a elbow to the temple that hurt him, instead of a punch, and that if the ref didn't wave it off it could have continued....and who know's he night have gone on to win and been undefeated????? who know's, but he was a great fighter and a great champion, and you should be embarrassed of yourself to start a thread saying he's worthless.....how can you call yourself a boxing fan colonel jones, if you have no respect for a past great champion......

the hawk is one of the greatest fighters of all time!!! the man was not intimidated by anyone.... hearns and leonard didn't want anything to do with pryor.... cause they knew that they were in for a nasty grueling fight. pryor never stopped throwing punches..ever! he would be all over you, until he broke you down. he could take a shot,and would walk through them like they didn't even happen. the man has a record of 39-1-35 ko's......and his only lose was after a 3 year layoff that was some of the darkest years of his life, and if you have seen the fight, you could see that it was a elbow to the temple that hurt him, instead of a punch, and that if the ref didn't wave it off it could have continued....and who know's he night have gone on to win and been undefeated????? who know's, but he was a great fighter and a great champion, and you should be embarrassed of yourself to start a thread saying he's worthless.....how can you call yourself a boxing fan colonel jones, if you have no respect for a past great champion......


karma for u man


to others,

Pryor started the coke after the 2nd arguello fight
that was when he was sad and **** bout stuff etc...

At least DeLaHoya wouldn't have ducked him like Leonard did..

Prime Aaron vs prime ODH? Oscar would get KO'd. He's like a small version of Hagler but 10x faster.

Your point is well taken, but my point is that he wasted it as well. Sometimes the difference betwween a great fighter and a good fighter is such a small line. He probably wsa as talented as Hearns or Leanord, but he wasted it. That's his fault not ours. He could have fought Leanord, or HEarns, or Curry, but he chose crack. I hope it was worth it. Hearns never turned to crack, neither did Hagler, Pryor wasted his talent, simple as that. Of course he had talent, no one disputes that. But just like Paul Newman's character was told in the Hustler: jackie Gleason's character 'Minnestot Fats' had more character in his small finger than 'fast eddie' had in his whole body. Same can be said for Pryor, he had no character.

YOU have no charecter you judgemental prick.

Who are you to call someone with Pryor's achievements or ANYONE for that matter, worthless? What give's you the right?

Yeah, Pryor made some REALLY ****ty choices in his life & it cost him. So what? That's between himself, his loved ones & his God to work out & judging by his current life & his current state of happiness, it's worked out just fine.

Actually, choosing the rough path in life gives you character. Good choice or bad. :D

Actually, choosing the rough path in life gives you character. Good choice or bad. :D



if u don't get too ****ed up that is...and prime pryor hands any of today's fighters their asses WITHOUT THE BLACK BOTTLE!

now, ray leonard was a legend of the ring and I have lots of respect for him.

however, he did duck pryor, and he did duck hagler.

After watching Pryor beat Arguello in the second fight, I'm reminded what a boxing historian said about Pryor: "He could go hang out with the Pope one night, and he would go smoke crack with some street thug the next" There is nothing more common in this world than wasted talent. Aaron Pryor was that. Alot of people think he could have beat both Leanord and Hearns (who he did as an amatuer) as a pro, but we will never know, because he was such a worthless piece of scum ****. I guess he'll just have to tell people how great he could have been. We can all do that. I hope all the CRACK you smoked Pryor was worth it.

I think its safe to say, that you are easily the biggest retard on this site. I could not fathom anyone saying such a thing about a fighter....who does not owe you a god damn thing. Especially in the case of monitoring his own personal life for your benefit. News Flash dickface, some people have problems that extend outside of the ring. Especially in the case of Pryor, who had a drug addiction. It would be people like you that make up the conservative majority of "so called thinkers" who are so quick to judge a professional athlete by the choices they make outside of the ring. Look at a fighter like Mike Tyson. He should be criticised for his actions because they directly affected another person (being his rape of desiree washington). What in the hell did Pryor do to you?

Did you lose some money on him in a bet? Can you now not spare the twenty minutes it took you to type and think up that retarded paragraph? do you love him so much as a fighter, that you would type something like this? I would like some answers to these questions, and I am pretty sure you wont be giving them.

Just another retarded ****face, who types a retarded paragraph....and runs off without defending it. Eat a dick *****. Bad karma for you for the rest of time.

I think its safe to say, that you are easily the biggest retard on this site. I could not fathom anyone saying such a thing about a fighter....who does not owe you a god damn thing. Especially in the case of monitoring his own personal life for your benefit. News Flash dickface, some people have problems that extend outside of the ring. Especially in the case of Pryor, who had a drug addiction. It would be people like you that make up the conservative majority of "so called thinkers" who are so quick to judge a professional athlete by the choices they make outside of the ring. Look at a fighter like Mike Tyson. He should be criticised for his actions because they directly affected another person (being his rape of desiree washington). What in the hell did Pryor do to you?

Did you lose some money on him in a bet? Can you now not spare the twenty minutes it took you to type and think up that retarded paragraph? do you love him so much as a fighter, that you would type something like this? I would like some answers to these questions, and I am pretty sure you wont be giving them.

Just another retarded ****face, who types a retarded paragraph....and runs off without defending it. Eat a dick *****. Bad karma for you for the rest of time.

You the man Run w/knives

Pryor is on top 5 p4p ever
he was better than Leonard, Duran etc.

Hearns was also one of my favorite fighters so i will keep my mouth shut there....lol

For the guy who started this thread.....u **** with pryor u **** with me
that guy is amazing, i dunno why ppl dont credit him for a good chin, he may have been knockdown a few times but look at those damn shots arguello gave him
his a monster!
Long live Pryor!

Pryor was the greatest "finisher" I have seen in over 45 years of following boxing. He was like a shark tasting blood...his eyes actually changed like he was in the throes of a feeding frenzy.
You can't fault somebody for not handling cocaine as well as somebody else did. That is the real danger of this ***** of a drug. The guy next to you may be able to do some and quit. While YOU are ready to do anything to get MORE. Pryor was cursed to never have enough. I know of what I speak....in the early 80s, I was in Coke's grips. It was a nightmare that I wouldn't wish on anyone. My advise: if you haven't tried it, DON'T! You really aren't missing anything except a bit of hell on earth.

Aaron now hangs out at a gym in Covington, Kentucky several days a week. It is just across the Ohio River from Cincinnati and one of my old stomping grounds.
Bless you Hawk! Stay the course.

Pryor was the greatest "finisher" I have seen in over 45 years of following boxing. He was like a shark tasting blood...his eyes actually changed like he was in the throes of a feeding frenzy.
You can't fault somebody for not handling cocaine as well as somebody else did. That is the real danger of this ***** of a drug. The guy next to you may be able to do some and quit. While YOU are ready to do anything to get MORE. Pryor was cursed to never have enough. I know of what I speak....in the early 80s, I was in Coke's grips. It was a nightmare that I wouldn't wish on anyone. My advise: if you haven't tried it, DON'T! You really aren't missing anything except a bit of hell on earth.

Aaron now hangs out at a gym in Covington, Kentucky several days a week. It is just across the Ohio River from Cincinnati and one of my old stomping grounds.
Bless you Hawk! Stay the course.
karma for u!

"he was better than Leonard, Duran etc"

HAHAHAHAHAHAH HE WAS GREAT BUT NOT BETTER THEN Duran, If ol man Arguello gave him problems imagine what Duran would do.............would of been one hella of a fight.





"There's only one legend. That's me." - Roberto Duran

To say that Aaron Pryor is a piece of **** is to show how stupid someone can be. The Hawk fell prey to crack which has someone you know, or in your family
strugggling with it. It happened to overtake Aaron. But what have you accomplished and you don't smoke crack!!!! You couldn't beat any of the guys Aaron did. It's easy to call names when you yourself haven't put on boxing gloves nor got into any ring. You probably got your ass kicked when you grew up. And might still be getting it kicked by your girlfriend or fat ass wife.

i think the guy is mad that hawk wasted his talent for drugs, wouldn't u be pissed, if your son dropped out of high school and could of been a doctor but instead became a crack head.

i think the guy is mad that hawk wasted his talent for drugs, wouldn't u be pissed, if your son dropped out of high school and could of been a doctor but instead became a crack head.
ya

the guys stupid though

Pryor accomplished enough

and Leonard was ducking him, so what was there to prove if u dont get the chance to

he could of done more, for what reason did he turn 2 crack? tell me

I don't believe that ANYBODY intentionally loses their soul..for ANY period of time.

What is it about "addiction" that you don't understand??

he could of done more, for what reason did he turn 2 crack? tell me



it was fun at the time, he thought " hey, i can control this " but then learned the truth, no one can control their addictions

After watching Pryor beat Arguello in the second fight, I'm reminded what a boxing historian said about Pryor: "He could go hang out with the Pope one night, and he would go smoke crack with some street thug the next" There is nothing more common in this world than wasted talent. Aaron Pryor was that. Alot of people think he could have beat both Leanord and Hearns (who he did as an amatuer) as a pro, but we will never know, because he was such a worthless piece of scum ****. I guess he'll just have to tell people how great he could have been. We can all do that. I hope all the CRACK you smoked Pryor was worth it.

I hope you're just inspiring debate or somehting because if you're a real boxing fan you know that though these guys may be heroic in their competitive spirit ... very few are choirboys in terms of being a role model. Aaron, however is both a great ring warrior and a role model after overcoming his problems with crack addiction. He's a trainer and a family man who also preaches nowadays.

He's doing pretty good compared to most people and had a career second only to a few. You're bashing one of the greatest to lace em up so I'm sorry he fails to meet the standards you've set for success in Life.

If you don't respect Aaron Pryor you don't respect Boxing. We can all tell people how great we could have been and some of us do that despite how we portray ourselves on internet forums. The greatest fighters are invariably the ones who overcome hardship, who get knocked down but stubbornly get up.

Aaron did that in real life so I find that much more impressive.

"he was better than Leonard, Duran etc"

HAHAHAHAHAHAH HE WAS GREAT BUT NOT BETTER THEN Duran, If ol man Arguello gave him problems imagine what Duran would do.............would of been one hella of a fight.





"There's only one legend. That's me." - Roberto Duran

judging from your nickname, I think your opinion is a LIIIIITTLE biased

I'm suprised Pryor accomplished what he did. The odds were stacked against him.
Someone posted this on another site.
A little bit about Aaron Pryor and what he's gone through:

Aaron "The Hawk" Pryor was the product of a one-night stand and didn't meet his biological father until age 17. His father became a crack addict.

His mother Sara was half-Japanese, half-African-American. An alcoholic, she gave birth to seven children with five different fathers.

His grandmother was shot dead by an angry boyfriend.

He was raised on welfare and sexually abused at age eight by a Baptist minister.

One of his sisters had 12 children, all with different fathers, and all of whom were raised in foster homes. One of those children died in a fire, the result of mother's neglect.

One of his brothers, who was also sexually abused as a child, became a transvestite and a street prostitute.

Another brother is serving a 25-to-135-year sentence for armed robbery.

Yet another brother is a former crack addict. He was married to a fellow addict who became a prostitute.

Still another brother was shot in a domestic dispute and was paralyzed for life.

Pryor was shot in the forearm by his second wife ... He was tied up and had a gun held to his head in a Miami crack house ... He was shot in the hand by drug acquaintances ... He once held a gun to his own head ... He's been hospitalized with bleeding ulcers ... He did three months in prison as inmate number 15197 ... He's been married four times, and his current wife is a recovering crack addict as well.

And now Pryor is a deacon, a trainer of young fighters, a member of the International Boxing Hall of Fame, and an inspiration to the world.

judging from your nickname, I think your opinion is a LIIIIITTLE biased
I believe Duran is Panamanian, dog....not Mexican.