View Full Version : AP reports Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson already discussing fight


neils7147933
09-26-2004, 04:25 PM
Don't know if they have to face mandatories first or not. Tarver's is Briggs - Johnson's is Hoye

Johnson, Tarver feast on Jones' defeat

By WOODY BAIRD, Associated Press Writer
September 26, 2004
MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) -- Glen Johnson and Antonio Tarver were on stage together, joking about a unification fight for the light heavyweight title.

As for Roy Jones Jr., considered by some the world's best pound-for-pound fighter, he was in the back of an ambulance headed to the hospital.

Johnson had just given Jones the beating of his life, landing an overhand right and short left to put in doubt the future of one of the sport's big-time fighters.

Johnson, the underdog despite being the champion, kept his IBF crown by knocking Jones cold in the ninth round of a scheduled 12-rounder Saturday night at FedExForum, the new $250 million home of the Memphis Grizzlies.

``I was never hurt,'' said Johnson, a Jamaican living in Miami. ``I was working to find what I needed. I keep working the body. I keep chopping him down one point at a time until I find the right punch.''

Now, Johnson and Tarver, who took the WBC title from Jones -- after Jones had taken it from him -- are talking about a fight of their own.

Johnson, 41-9-2 with 28 knockouts, said he is ready to fight anybody, including Tarver. But Tarver, who jumped in on Johnson's postfight news conference, said Johnson holds a title he once owned and wants back.

``We've got to sell tickets, brother,'' Tarver said with a loud laugh. ``You got to talk it up, baby. You can't get paid sitting up here being the nice guy. You know what I'm saying. We've got to get this thing started. You've got a piece of my championship and I'm coming for it.''

Jones began a stellar pro career after the 1988 Olympics, where many believe he was robbed of a gold medal. Though 49-3 with 38 knockouts, he has been beaten only twice. The other loss was a disqualification in 1997.

Jones often was referred to as the best fighter anywhere, pound for pound, and he wasn't shy about calling himself the greatest. He won titles at classes ranging from middleweight to heavyweight. He got a piece of the heavyweight title in March 2003 by taking the WBA crown from John Ruiz.

Jones dropped weight quickly to fight Tarver in November, barely capturing the light heavyweight title in their first meeting. In the May rematch, Tarver stopped Jones with a left that sent him sprawling.

Now, Tarver said, Jones is out of the picture.

``I want to see the man go on and enjoy his life after boxing,'' Tarver said. ``We don't need to see Roy Jones go through the things he went through tonight, the things he went through on May 15. Let the man ride off into the sunset.''

Johnson began his pro career at 24 and gained his title, his first, by beating European champion Clinton Woods in February.

``I hope the best for Roy Jones,'' he said. ``I hope he's not hurt and everything else, and I'll fight anybody else. It don't matter.''

Johnson came out charging from the opening bell. Jones, the obvious crowd favorite, began to draw boos by the seventh round.

``What are you waiting for, Roy?'' one fan yelled.

Johnson threw 437 punches to 270 for Jones who spent much of the fight against the ropes or backing up.

Then Johnson landed the right-left that put Jones flat on his back. And he stayed there. For a few seconds, the crowd was quiet. It took Jones' crew almost four minutes to get him on his feet. Finally, he walked out of the ring helped by his trainers. The trip to the hospital, his handlers said, was for a checkup and he was OK.

Asked about the beginning-of-the-end punch, Johnson was matter of fact.

``The right hand? You want me to tell you about the right hand?'' he responded. ``It was a right hand. That's it.''

Sir_Jose
09-26-2004, 04:38 PM
I'd like to see the two fight. I would favor Tarver

The Fix
09-26-2004, 08:17 PM
tarver by KO early if johnson applies the same kind of pressure he did to roy. tarver is a counter puncher with good power so johnsons style fits him to a tee. the fight id like to see now is tarver vs hopkins.

QueenCity
09-26-2004, 08:25 PM
This fight should happen, Antonio needs to get some action instead of holding out for that big payday. If Tarver is as good as he says he is, he should have no problem with Johnson.

doomeddisciple
09-26-2004, 08:35 PM
Tarver and Johnson needed Jones there to have a marquee name - Tarver and Johnson outside the general boxing community would be lucky to rate a "Huh?" from the general public.

In the end - The Light Heavies needed Roy more than Roy needs the light heavies and I think we'll see a fairly boring division short of Hopkins coming up for a dig at Tarver which will more be a farewell to boxing from Hopkins than a serious dig at the Lght Heavy Title.

All I can say is I bet Jones wished he stayed at heavy now!!!!!!!!!!

QueenCity
09-26-2004, 08:39 PM
All I can say is I bet Jones wished he stayed at heavy now!!!!!!!!!!

You got that straight

abdiel2k3
09-26-2004, 08:43 PM
Tarver and Johnson needed Jones there to have a marquee name - Tarver and Johnson outside the general boxing community would be lucky to rate a "Huh?" from the general public.

In the end - The Light Heavies needed Roy more than Roy needs the light heavies and I think we'll see a fairly boring division short of Hopkins coming up for a dig at Tarver which will more be a farewell to boxing from Hopkins than a serious dig at the Lght Heavy Title.

All I can say is I bet Jones wished he stayed at heavy now!!!!!!!!!!

fo show
with his slower reflexes now he still was alot faster then most heavies
he defintly should have stayed at the heavies
he could have still been a threat there
all tho eventually he would have also had a chin check
but then it would be becuz it was a hw punch
not cuz he got old

vB Martin
09-26-2004, 08:47 PM
All I can say is I bet Jones wished he stayed at heavy now!!!!!!!!!!

why? eventually he would have had to fight someone not old, slow and plodding. the best fight for us would have been Jones/Byrd, but Jones wouldn't want any part of that because the risk of losing was too high.

if he had stepped up and tried to fight a real heavyweight who wasn't on the downside of his career they would have walked through his little flurries and pounded him senseless. if he cant' take a punch from Tarver and Johnson, what would a real heavyweight contender have done to him?

he made the most money by dropping back to light-heavyweight and creating some excitement.

neils7147933
09-27-2004, 06:52 PM
Tarver and Johnson need to make this fight special so that the whole division stays alive - I mean, it's a sparsely talented division compared to 126, 140, 154 and at least the public knows a lot of heavyweight names. After Rico Hoye's performance against Montell Griffin, I don't think he's going to take over anytime soon. Tarver-Johnson needs to be a good fight for exposure to the division.

Neuraxis
09-27-2004, 07:12 PM
I'm not even sure if Johnson is a top 10 light heavyweight, so I think that Tarver fight will be pretty lopsided.

NiGe2011
09-27-2004, 07:43 PM
I'm not even sure if Johnson is a top 10 light heavyweight, so I think that Tarver fight will be pretty lopsided.

Johnson is a top-ten lightheavy (ranked #3 by Ring coming into the fight actually) but I still think that Tarver would win the fight. Unlike Jones, Tarver has a very good jab which would prevent Johnson from trying to bull him into the corner as he did Roy- this fight is probably the best at lightheavy but Tarver's big paycheck went down with Roy.

Neuraxis
09-27-2004, 07:52 PM
That's number three as in Tarver was champ, RJJ 1, Erdei 2, and Johnson 3 right?

nezahualcoyotl
09-27-2004, 08:06 PM
****ing Tarver! lol...tellin it like it is once again! if nething i'd pay just to see what he'll say next. "u kant get paid bein the nice guy, u gotta talk it up baby!" that's text book promoting boxing 101.

tha's what James Toney does, but i hope his ass aint hurt again! damn how long we gotta wait for this guy to rule? i'm gettin tired of it already...soon i'm start goin to root for Ruiz if Toney gets hurt again lol

m00ks
09-27-2004, 08:12 PM
****ing Tarver! lol...tellin it like it is once again! if nething i'd pay just to see what he'll say next. "u kant get paid bein the nice guy, u gotta talk it up baby!" that's text book promoting boxing 101.

tha's what James Toney does, but i hope his ass aint hurt again! damn how long we gotta wait for this guy to rule? i'm gettin tired of it already...soon i'm start goin to root for Ruiz if Toney gets hurt again lol

I actually like Johnson's nice boy persona. Too much of tehse trash talkers out there. A humble champ? Now THAT'S different.

NiGe2011
09-27-2004, 08:16 PM
That's number three as in Tarver was champ, RJJ 1, Erdei 2, and Johnson 3 right?

Yeah, Johnson was the third ranked contender, Tarver is the champ.

neils7147933
11-01-2004, 05:47 PM
Johnson did KO Jones, but remember he's lost 9 of 18 or so...

GxBrak
11-01-2004, 05:49 PM
i still think tarver is a better fighter (and will win), even though his jones win doesn't seem like as big of a deal now

phallus
11-02-2004, 12:15 AM
Tarver is definitely the bigger puncher, he can take Johnson out at any point in the fight, if Johnson makes it easy for him. i like Johnson, the fact that he's humble impresses the hell out of me

FistoftheDallasStar
11-02-2004, 02:11 AM
I'll be watching it when and if it takes place. I give the edge to Tarver on this one though. This would be a great fight for real boxing fans but as we all know the big money fights are what we get.