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+= El Jefe=+ 04-19-2005, 01:05 PM they have elected
Pope Benedict XVI
the german guy Joseph Ratzinger got it
how do you guys feel about it.
he is a conservative.
http://www.dailyrecord.com/midday/midday1-update0419.htm
jack_the_rippuh 04-19-2005, 01:09 PM :( :mad: :(
Well...life goes on.
AgonYx0 04-19-2005, 01:10 PM i dont give a **** about any pope.
Mr. Beelzebub 04-19-2005, 01:14 PM ****, I wanted a black pope.
BiggestBoxingFanEver 04-19-2005, 01:17 PM He was a Nazi. Not just fighting on the side of Germany as many Germans did. He was a Nazi youth (despite his father being against the Nazi party) and won metals for being such a good little Nazi. He then joined the German army and from what i understand, for a period of time worked at a concentration camp.
I guess in his mind he thought either way the Jews were going to be in Hell so it was ok with him.
My opinion is if this is the best they can do imagine the guys records who didn't make the cut :eek:
puppy_dogg 04-19-2005, 01:17 PM im with tommy girl on this one. i would like to see vatican city before i die though
DR. FREECLOUD 04-19-2005, 01:32 PM they have elected
Pope Benedict XVI
the german guy Joseph Ratzinger got it
how do you guys feel about it.
he is a conservative.
http://www.dailyrecord.com/midday/midday1-update0419.htm
simon i will tell you how i feel about it.i like this guy and actually was hoping he would be our new pope. he is very much a conservative and was also very close to john paul 2nd. i feel that he will carry on right where our last pontif left off and in the same fasion i must say. my first thoughts were that we would have one of the black cardinals elected pope, but then i realized that was way too american of me. americans are the only ones who would make such a big deal about weather or not there was a black pope. its not like that in the vatican. they see no color. only beautiful souls. its a matter of whom they feel can perform the job the best and i think they elected judt the person for the job.
Crouching Tiger 04-19-2005, 01:38 PM they have elected Pope Benedict XVI
the german guy Joseph Ratzinger got it how do you guys feel about it. he is a conservative.
http://www.dailyrecord.com/midday/midday1-update0419.htm
I don't know much about Cardinal Ratzinger. and I was hoping for a Third World pope. But let's hope for the best and throw our full support to the new pope, specially the Catholics. He certainly would need all the support he could get.
JOM'S 04-19-2005, 01:44 PM they have elected
Pope Benedict XVI
the german guy Joseph Ratzinger got it
how do you guys feel about it.
he is a conservative.
http://www.dailyrecord.com/midday/midday1-update0419.htm
Good Luck to You Pope Benedict XVI!!!
Hope you do a good job ...
someone said here your a NAZI, who cares, Pope John Paul was a COMMIE and look what he have done ...
The1God 04-19-2005, 01:50 PM I am shocked, I was hoping for a female pope, just for a change. A black pope, sure that would be a bit of a change, but lets get a woman in there. One with big titties that would look good on their knees.
ON A SIDE NOTE:
Why do they change their name? What's wrong with Pope Joe? Or Pope Joey? Benidict? Good eggs!!!
Bombardier 04-19-2005, 01:51 PM He's much older that John Paul II was, so he's not going to be around as long. That's what they were planning for anyway. The story goes that the Catholic church does not want to get involved in any major reforms just yet, but might (?) sometime in the future. In the meantime, they bring on a caretaker pope to toe the party line, so to speak.
So really, not much is going to change in the Catholic church, if that's what people were hoping for. But I don't think things are really going to get worse either.
And yes, the fact that he was a member of the Hitler youth is a bit disturbing. Though keep in mind that it was not like many youths there had a choice at the time.
Boxerdog 04-19-2005, 01:53 PM Dem Popes is cool...wit dey funny hats n sh*t!
At least dat whut ah thank, ah reckon!
Bombardier 04-19-2005, 01:54 PM Oh yeah, apparently the last Benedict was a bit of a softie, so people are hoping that he chose that time to show that he's not going to be such a hardass.
MlLkMan 04-19-2005, 06:49 PM GOOD NEWSsss
+= El Jefe=+ 04-19-2005, 06:53 PM i just hope
we dont go into a second inquisition period
Marilyn Manson better hide hahahahaha
Atwa_66 04-19-2005, 07:48 PM good deal, a new pope...hooray for him.
MexicanWarrior 04-20-2005, 09:22 AM President Fox already invited him to visit mexico.
what an ass kisser!!!
i heard he was in the nazi youth is that true??
neils7147933 04-20-2005, 09:30 AM President Fox already invited him to visit mexico.
what an ass kisser!!!
i heard he was in the nazi youth is that true??
Absolutely:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1572667,00.html
Papal hopeful is a former Hitler Youth
London Times | April 18, 2005
THE wartime past of a leading German contender to succeed John Paul II may return to haunt him as cardinals begin voting in the Sistine Chapel tomorrow to choose a new leader for 1 billion Catholics.
Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, whose strong defence of Catholic orthodoxy has earned him a variety of sobriquets — including “the enforcer”, “the panzer cardinal” and “God’s rottweiler” — is expected to poll around 40 votes in the first ballot as conservatives rally behind him.
Although far short of the requisite two-thirds majority of the 115 votes, this would almost certainly give Ratzinger, 78 yesterday, an early lead in the voting. Liberals have yet to settle on a rival candidate who could come close to his tally.
Unknown to many members of the church, however, Ratzinger’s past includes brief membership of the Hitler Youth movement and wartime service with a German army anti- aircraft unit.
Although there is no suggestion that he was involved in any atrocities, his service may be contrasted by opponents with the attitude of John Paul II, who took part in anti-Nazi theatre performances in his native Poland and in 1986 became the first pope to visit Rome’s synagogue.
“John Paul was hugely appreciated for what he did for and with the Jewish people,” said Lord Janner, head of the Holocaust Education Trust, who is due to attend ceremonies today to mark the 60th anniversary of the liberation of the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp.
“If they were to appoint someone who was on the other side in the war, he would start at a disadvantage, although it wouldn’t mean in the long run he wouldn’t be equally understanding of the concerns of the Jewish world.”
The son of a rural Bavarian police officer, Ratzinger was six when Hitler came to power in 1933. His father, also called Joseph, was an anti-Nazi whose attempts to rein in Hitler’s Brown Shirts forced the family to move home several times.
In 1937 Ratzinger’s father retired and the family moved to Traunstein, a staunchly Catholic town in Bavaria close to the Führer’s mountain retreat in Berchtesgaden. He joined the Hitler Youth aged 14, shortly after membership was made compulsory in 1941.
He quickly won a dispensation on account of his training at a seminary. “Ratzinger was only briefly a member of the Hitler Youth and not an enthusiastic one,” concluded John Allen, his biographer.
Two years later Ratzinger was enrolled in an anti-aircraft unit that protected a BMW factory making aircraft engines. The workforce included slaves from Dachau concentration camp.
Ratzinger has insisted he never took part in combat or fired a shot — adding that his gun was not even loaded — because of a badly infected finger. He was sent to Hungary, where he set up tank traps and saw Jews being herded to death camps. He deserted in April 1944 and spent a few weeks in a prisoner of war camp.
He has since said that although he was opposed to the Nazi regime, any open resistance would have been futile — comments echoed this weekend by his elder brother Georg, a retired priest ordained along with the cardinal in 1951.
“Resistance was truly impossible,” Georg Ratzinger said. “Before we were conscripted, one of our teachers said we should fight and become heroic Nazis and another told us not to worry as only one soldier in a thousand was killed. But neither of us ever used a rifle against the enemy.”
Some locals in Traunstein, like Elizabeth Lohner, 84, whose brother-in-law was sent to Dachau as a conscientious objector, dismiss such suggestions. “It was possible to resist, and those people set an example for others,” she said. “The Ratzingers were young and had made a different choice.”
MexicanWarrior 04-20-2005, 09:40 AM that makes me feel real safe :confused:
hail hitler!!!!!!!!!!!
Explosivo 04-20-2005, 10:39 AM I heard that when the new Pope finally came out, he saw his shadow. Danm, 6 more weeks of spring...
masterdirector 04-21-2005, 05:49 PM So does this mean the Catholics will start a war with the Jews soon? Glad I live in South Carolina now (hell, not really). There's like 12 Catholics in the whole state.
Actually I wish Catholicism were bigger here so I'd know more about it without having to do all my own ****ing research. And I don't even know where the closest ****ing Cathedral is. Also want to do some jewish research and muslim research. Mainly for screenwriting purposes. And to quench some of my own curiosities.
Oh, why'd they elect a pope that's nearly ****ing 80? I mean damn, he's going to die in the next few years himself. I think the cardinals were like "**** it, let's put this guy in. He can't **** things up too bad, and if he does, so what? He'll be dead in a couple years anyhow"
neils7147933 04-26-2005, 11:41 PM http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1469055,00.html
Pope 'Obstructed' Sex
Abuse Inquiry
Confidential Letter Reveals Ratzinger
Ordered Bishops To Keep Allegations Secret
By Jamie Doward
Religious Affairs Correspondent
The Observer - UK
4-24-5
Pope Benedict XVI faced claims last night he had 'obstructed justice' after it emerged he issued an order ensuring the church's investigations into child sex abuse claims be carried out in secret.
The order was made in a confidential letter, obtained by The Observer, which was sent to every Catholic bishop in May 2001.
It asserted the church's right to hold its inquiries behind closed doors and keep the evidence confidential for up to 10 years after the victims reached adulthood. The letter was signed by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, who was elected as John Paul II's successor last week.
Lawyers acting for abuse victims claim it was designed to prevent the allegations from becoming public knowledge or being investigated by the police. They accuse Ratzinger of committing a 'clear obstruction of justice'.
The letter, 'concerning very grave sins', was sent from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Vatican office that once presided over the Inquisition and was overseen by Ratzinger.
It spells out to bishops the church's position on a number of matters ranging from celebrating the eucharist with a non-Catholic to sexual abuse by a cleric 'with a minor below the age of 18 years'. Ratzinger's letter states that the church can claim jurisdiction in cases where abuse has been 'perpetrated with a minor by a cleric'.
The letter states that the church's jurisdiction 'begins to run from the day when the minor has completed the 18th year of age' and lasts for 10 years.
It orders that 'preliminary investigations' into any claims of abuse should be sent to Ratzinger's office, which has the option of referring them back to private tribunals in which the 'functions of judge, promoter of justice, notary and legal representative can validly be performed for these cases only by priests'.
'Cases of this kind are subject to the pontifical secret,' Ratzinger's letter concludes. Breaching the pontifical secret at any time while the 10-year jurisdiction order is operating carries penalties, including the threat of excommunication.
The letter is referred to in documents relating to a lawsuit filed earlier this year against a church in Texas and Ratzinger on behalf of two alleged abuse victims. By sending the letter, lawyers acting for the alleged victims claim the cardinal conspired to obstruct justice.
Daniel Shea, the lawyer for the two alleged victims who discovered the letter, said: 'It speaks for itself. You have to ask: why do you not start the clock ticking until the kid turns 18? It's an obstruction of justice.'
Father John Beal, professor of canon law at the Catholic University of America, gave an oral deposition under oath on 8 April last year in which he admitted to Shea that the letter extended the church's jurisdiction and control over sexual assault crimes.
The Ratzinger letter was co-signed by Archbishop Tarcisio Bertone who gave an interview two years ago in which he hinted at the church's opposition to allowing outside agencies to investigate abuse claims.
'In my opinion, the demand that a bishop be obligated to contact the police in order to denounce a priest who has admitted the offence of paedophilia is unfounded,' Bertone said.
Shea criticised the order that abuse allegations should be investigated only in secret tribunals. 'They are imposing procedures and secrecy on these cases. If law enforcement agencies find out about the case, they can deal with it. But you can't investigate a case if you never find out about it. If you can manage to keep it secret for 18 years plus 10 the priest will get away with it,' Shea added.
A spokeswoman in the Vatican press office declined to comment when told about the contents of the letter. 'This is not a public document, so we would not talk about it,' she said.
Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2005
LuKahnLi 04-27-2005, 08:37 PM Catholics should be ASHAMED to be Catholics with this human turd wearing the cap. It is time for the world to leave this religion in the dust. With this selection, the Catholic church has shown they see no need to keep up with the times.
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