it official the winner of danny williams and matt skelton is next in line for a wba shot against ruiz or toney.

Wow, that sucks.

really that surprises me, danny and matt are to meet in July so it could tie in, believe it when its signed tho.

Cant see Don doing biznezz with Frank or vice veraa after last time.

CHAMP: Ruiz (WBA)
1. Hasim Rahman
2. James Toney
3. Lanc Whitaker
4. Mont Barrett
5. Nicolay Valuev
6. Corri Sanders
7. Andrew Golota
8. Jameel Mccline
9. Faruq Saleem
10. Owen Beck
11. Larry Donald
12. Gerald Nobles
13. Wladimir Klitschko
14. Lua Krasniqi
15. Sinan Samil Sam

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Danny-Skelton who? What kind of crap is this? Give it to guys who deserve it or have a chance...

it official the winner of danny williams and matt skelton is next in line for a wba shot against ruiz or toney.

Why? Neither one of them are real haeavyweight contenders. :mad:

its on
http://www.secondsout.com/UK/news.cfm?ccs=228&cs=16093

CHAMP: Ruiz (WBA)
1. Hasim Rahman
2. James Toney
3. Lanc Whitaker
4. Mont Barrett
5. Nicolay Valuev
6. Corri Sanders
7. Andrew Golota
8. Jameel Mccline
9. Faruq Saleem
10. Owen Beck
11. Larry Donald
12. Gerald Nobles
13. Wladimir Klitschko
14. Lua Krasniqi
15. Sinan Samil Sam

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Danny-Skelton who? What kind of crap is this? Give it to guys who deserve it or have a chance...

Is Valuev really #5? Based on what? How would he be above McCline or Donald?

just 1/100,000,000th of the reasons boxing is not what is used to be

just 1/100,000,000th of the reasons boxing is not what is used to be

I agree this is... :bsflag:

hate to delude you but just cos its reported on websitew doesnt mean its on.

ium not decrying the website here but FW has a history of saying things are done dusted and finalised when they are anything but.

hate to delude you but just cos its reported on websitew doesnt mean its on.

ium not decrying the website here but FW has a history of saying things are done dusted and finalised when they are anything but.

True... :cool:

Don King's "Heavyweight Superstars" Fall PPV:

John Ruiz vs. Matt Skelton, WBA Heavyweight Title
Larry Donald vs. Andrew Golota, NABC Heavyweight Title
DaVarryl Williamson vs. Owen Beck
Kali Meehan vs. Fres Oquendo

$49.95. Two title fights! Only in America!

Don King's "Heavyweight Superstars" Fall PPV:

John Ruiz vs. Matt Skelton, WBA Heavyweight Title
Larry Donald vs. Andrew Golota, NABC Heavyweight Title
DaVarryl Williamson vs. Owen Beck
Kali Meehan vs. Fres Oquendo

$49.95. Two title fights! Only in America!
Thats awesome! I cant wait for this, if it happens........and only 50 dollars! Let's just keep our fingers crossed.

Just so that no one is confused.....This is Sarcasm

This fight hasn't even been finalized yet, and I have heard very little about it, so this seems like a lot of wishful thinking.

You wanna see two guy's hug each other for 45 minutes?

John Ruiz vs. Matt Skelton, WBA Heavyweight Title

LOL!... I reckon Skelton would have a very good chance of winning that fight! Coz' he'd be so strong!

Is Valuev really #5? Based on what? How would he be above McCline or Donald?

Probably because of 40-0-0 record

Wow... agreed, neither has done anything to deserve a shot. Danny didn't deserve his first shot. Though I always wished he'd gone in with a contender, rather than the top man, cos I thought he'd never get another chance after that Klitschko one-sided pounding.

So this could go one of four ways:

Toney vs. Skelton - no contest
Ruiz vs. Skelton - a double hug fest, Skelton either wears Ruiz down, or, more likely, Ruiz wins.

Toney vs. Williams - Williams has more ability than he's shown in either of his last two fights, but Toney would be too slick for him.

Ruiz vs. Williams - the match-up I'd most like to see as it would give Danny a chance to prove that while he'll never be a premier fighter, he belongs in the second tier more than your Brewsters, Donalds and (32 second KO victim) Meehans. There's a chance Danny will do one of his "mentally withdraw" bits when he feels Ruiz's power, but imagine if he KOed Ruiz. How much would you like him then?

thats garbage winner of toney ruiz should fight byrd or klitchko simple as that

I think we could do a lot better wishful thinking than hoping for a Skelton-Williams vs Toney-Ruiz winner. If there is a boxing God, then the winner of Toney-Ruiz will fight Klitschko.

CHAMP: Ruiz (WBA)
1. Hasim Rahman
2. James Toney
3. Lanc Whitaker
4. Mont Barrett
5. Nicolay Valuev
6. Corri Sanders
7. Andrew Golota
8. Jameel Mccline
9. Faruq Saleem
10. Owen Beck
11. Larry Donald
12. Gerald Nobles
13. Wladimir Klitschko
14. Lua Krasniqi
15. Sinan Samil Sam

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Danny-Skelton who? What kind of crap is this? Give it to guys who deserve it or have a chance...

:rolleyes:

Name one fighter at heavyweight who deserves a shot? Williams and Skelton are about as proven as anyone else.

I also think it would make for a good fight if Toney gets in with a quick puncher(which both Williams and Skelton are)

Another way to fool boxing fans again for a total uninteresting fight. How long does it take for Ruiz to retire?

I think we could do a lot better wishful thinking than hoping for a Skelton-Williams vs Toney-Ruiz winner. If there is a boxing God, then the winner of Toney-Ruiz will fight Klitschko.

I was referring to wishful thinking by the Brits. Skelton, Williams, and Harrison are all they have at heavyweight.

Ahh I see. In any case Klitschko is the real champ and if all these heavyweights are serious, they will fight him. I hope injuries do not turn Klitschko into a shadow of his former slef however.

I'm not sure I have ever heard the name Klitschko in Ruiz's mouth. If Ruiz loses to Toney he should forget about Klitschko anyway. He wouldn't be able to hug that big mofo without getting tired.

Man I wish the winner of this (hopefully Toney) were to fight Golota in a unification bout. Both the winners of Golota/Brewster and Toney/Ruiz have to take on Mandatories, thats too bad.

I was referring to wishful thinking by the Brits. Skelton, Williams, and Harrison are all they have at heavyweight.We'll be back... we had a guy with the initials LL who did quite well recently... we thought we'd take a back seat and give you guys another go. Sorry, I mean, give the Ukranians a go.

Oh, I know it ain't worth ****, but Skelton has a "world" title with the WBF.

Yeah, yeah - don't tell me that it's a hokey alphabet title that isn't worth jack. (The Rippuh). I know that, I'm not suggesting otherwise... all I doing is suggesting that a heavyweight with a 16-0 (15 KO) record and a "belt" of some description is going to get himself in the rankings, even though we all know it's undeserved.

(For the record, he's currently 11 on BoxRec and Williams is 16.

Somebody say ValueV should be ranked cause he is 40-0 LOL

If he is 40-0 and not fought anybody of note then, that's a problem not a good thing!!!!

Williams has fought far better opposition.


As for Skelton , HE would actually hug the life oputta Ruiz, that's of course if anybody cared to watch LOL

Probably because of 40-0-0 record

so you're about ready to see chavez jr in a title fight soon too, from that logic?

Ahh I see. In any case Klitschko is the real champ and if all these heavyweights are serious, they will fight him. I hope injuries do not turn Klitschko into a shadow of his former slef however.

I'm not sure I have ever heard the name Klitschko in Ruiz's mouth. If Ruiz loses to Toney he should forget about Klitschko anyway. He wouldn't be able to hug that big mofo without getting tired.

Ruiz called out Vitali in an open letter published on *********, and somewhere on this site. use the 'search forum' feature for it...

Ruiz called out Vitali in an open letter published on *********, and somewhere on this site. use the 'search forum' feature for it...
Ohh... but that was a day before Williams fight. After that we did not hear a word from Johnny's mouth.

Somebody say ValueV should be ranked cause he is 40-0 LOL


Brian Nielson is 64-2.

I would not rank him in the Top 100 heavyweights personally.

He was 62-1 when he got crushed by Mike Tyson. LOL. What a joke. That guy fights nothing but mailmen and pool cleaners.

Man I wish the winner of this (hopefully Toney) were to fight Golota in a unification bout. Both the winners of Golota/Brewster and Toney/Ruiz have to take on Mandatories, thats too bad.
The Toney/Ruiz fight is a mandatory so i think the winner can have a voluntary fight. The winner of Golota/Brewster will have to face the winner of the Whittiker/??? fight ( some euro dude due soon ).
But if made, i think the winner of the Brewster/Golota fight might vacate and go after the WBA title!

William has a chance against ruiz but not against toney

CHAMP: Ruiz (WBA)
1. Hasim Rahman
2. James Toney
3. Lanc Whitaker
4. Mont Barrett
5. Nicolay Valuev
6. Corri Sanders
7. Andrew Golota
8. Jameel Mccline
9. Faruq Saleem
10. Owen Beck
11. Larry Donald
12. Gerald Nobles
13. Wladimir Klitschko
14. Lua Krasniqi
15. Sinan Samil Sam

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Danny-Skelton who? What kind of crap is this? Give it to guys who deserve it or have a chance...
As it is, I don't recognize most of the names on that list other than Golota, Klitschko, Toney and Rahman. And probably with the exception of Klitschko, the other three mentioned are either washed up or second-rate fighters.

Simply put, the heavy division sucks.

Oh, I know it ain't worth ****, but Skelton has a "world" title with the WBF.

Yeah, yeah - don't tell me that it's a hokey alphabet title that isn't worth jack. (The Rippuh). I know that, I'm not suggesting otherwise... all I doing is suggesting that a heavyweight with a 16-0 (15 KO) record and a "belt" of some description is going to get himself in the rankings, even though we all know it's undeserved.

(For the record, he's currently 11 on BoxRec and Williams is 16.
As much as it don't mean ****... LOL!... Skelton has the WBU title... Audrey Harrison has the WBF title, (Or he just got stripped of it for inactivity)...

It's all bull**** anyway... LOL!...

Yeah, you can't blame me for getting them mixed up, can you? I made up an alphabet belt the other day and no one noticed.

Yeah, you can't blame me for getting them mixed up, can you? I made up an alphabet belt the other day and no one noticed.
Hahaha

Anything beyond WBO and NABF is fringe territory IMO; and those are barely passable, if that, to most probably. From there the waters get murkier than they already are and I could see how it would be easy to make a belt up and not have it's integrity questioned; just too many of them out there.

Just out of curiosity, what alphabet belt did you make up?


and LOL @ this ---> "If Ruiz was fighting in my back yard I would close the curtains"

danny williams is on my nerves

the guy beats an injured mike tyson and he is all of a sudden launched ito the forefront of boxing. why is that if you beat tyson you are fit for the title but tyson cant be

maybe if williams beats toney or ruiz then tyson andhim will have a rematch. that would be cool, and barring an injury i think tyson comes out on top.

my ideal heavyweight situation is james toney holding the wbc, and wba belts and tyson holding the ibf and wbo belts

lets be totally honest here, how many of you think that tyson regaining the heavyweight crown would bring boxing back? he would have it and love him or hate him everyone would watch him to either seehim crush people or get crushed.

my ideal heavyweight situation is james toney holding the wbc, and wba belts and tyson holding the ibf and wbo belts

toney fine but tyson? so you slate williams for not being worthy but want scrap iron mike to win a title how does that work?
says it all really.

lets be totally honest here, how many of you think that tyson regaining the heavyweight crown would bring boxing back? he would have it and love him or hate him everyone would watch him to either seehim crush people or get crushed.

YOUR NO BOXING FAN MATE.

wathing a fomrer great go throught the motions to pay his bills hoping for some kind of freak show.
no fan at all.

should be ashamed of yourself. :mad: