View Full Version : Paul Williams place in history


Max Cady
12-07-2009, 05:10 PM
Were does Paul place in the history of the greats at 147-160 pounds as in would he beat ray robinson would he beat marvin hager would he beat george foreman would he beat harry greb would he ebat les darcy would he ebat archie moore

weould he beat any of thes fighters and if so how many by KO

also were is he on all time list at ww and lmw

TheGreatA
12-07-2009, 05:17 PM
To put it simply, he doesn't have much of a place in history just yet. Based on his last fight, he has a lot to work on if he wants to be mentioned with the likes of Robinson, Greb, Moore and Hagler but the kind of a fight he had with Martinez could very well have take a lot out of him.

Max Cady
12-07-2009, 05:31 PM
To put it simply, he doesn't have much of a place in history just yet. Based on his last fight, he has a lot to work on if he wants to be mentioned with the likes of Robinson, Greb, Moore and Hagler but the kind of a fight he had with Martinez could very well have take a lot out of him.

thats not fair he just beat the #1 jmw and all the ww are scraed to fight him

Clyde Barrow
12-07-2009, 05:35 PM
Crikey. :blackeye:

Some of the alts on this site are fun. But the trolls are a waste of bandwidth. And it's bad enough they rubbish NSB with their garbage. I enjoy the tranquility of the history forum. I'm hoping the trolling does not cross over into this section.

Bushbaby
12-07-2009, 05:47 PM
Were does Paul place in the history of the greats at 147-160 pounds as in would he beat ray robinson would he beat marvin hager would he beat george foreman would he beat harry greb would he ebat les darcy would he ebat archie moore

weould he beat any of thes fighters and if so how many by KO

also were is he on all time list at ww and lmw

The Punishers place in history cannot be established yet,because he has more to give & do!!Watch,enjoy & stay fateful,when his career is over,he'll have earned the title of "Great"!!

Mersey
12-07-2009, 05:59 PM
Don't you think it's a little bit early to ask that question? He probably has 5/10 more years left in him.

1SILVA
12-07-2009, 06:10 PM
Were does Paul place in the history of the greats at 147-160 pounds as in would he beat ray robinson would he beat marvin hager would he beat george foreman would he beat harry greb would he ebat les darcy would he ebat archie moore

weould he beat any of thes fighters and if so how many by KO

also were is he on all time list at ww and lmw

He will possibly make the top 1000 list, somewhere around 999

talip bin osman
12-07-2009, 09:32 PM
iran barkley accomplished a great deal more... and he isnt anywhere in the HOF... yet... how much more for a guy like williams?

Marcov
12-08-2009, 03:32 AM
Wait ten years and look back, then you will have a better idea of how history treats him. I remember Hagler struggling with Marcos Geraldo and Duran struggling with Zeferino Gonzalez and Kirkland Laing(of course he weighed 194lbs four weeks before the bout). All the greats have had that fight when then didn't look special. Ali had Doug Jones(and Cooper), Robinson had LaMotta and so on.

But for Williams, he has not done enough yet. Ask me in ten years!

JAB5239
12-08-2009, 04:01 AM
Were does Paul place in the history of the greats at 147-160 pounds as in would he beat ray robinson would he beat marvin hager would he beat george foreman would he beat harry greb would he ebat les darcy would he ebat archie moore

weould he beat any of thes fighters and if so how many by KO

also were is he on all time list at ww and lmw

He doesn't make either list at 147 or 154. I like Paul a lot, but his best wins are Margarito, and it was close, Quintana, who holds a win over him and now Martinez. All good fighters, but none even close to establishing Williams as an all time great.

boxing_great
12-08-2009, 04:45 AM
Were does Paul place in the history of the greats at 147-160 pounds as in would he beat ray robinson would he beat marvin hager would he beat george foreman would he beat harry greb would he ebat les darcy would he ebat archie moore

weould he beat any of thes fighters and if so how many by KO

also were is he on all time list at ww and lmw

would he beat george foreman?
ur joking right?

Schism
12-08-2009, 04:56 AM
One of the most overrated fighters to have ever walked the Earth.

ghost deini
12-08-2009, 09:22 AM
One of the most overrated fighters to have ever walked the Earth.

i slightly agree with that

they give the impression that no one wants to fight him

well Martinez does
I'm sure Margarito would take a rematch

it's abit early in his career to be making threads like this he hasn't really even had a career determining fight yet

if he beats Pavlik which i don't think he will (after seeing what Martinez did to him Kelly gonna land that big right and it's lights out after that) then he goes up in my estimation slightly

i feel for Chad Dawson he is a true champion and literally has no one there to fight

this thing about Williams being the most avoided fighter in the sport is a myth

Calilloyd
12-08-2009, 09:08 PM
He doesn't make either list at 147 or 154. I like Paul a lot, but his best wins are Margarito, and it was close, Quintana, who holds a win over him and now Martinez. All good fighters, but none even close to establishing Williams as an all time great.

Exactly what you said. Although I think Martinez is about as good or better than anybody Williams will face at 154-160.

Calilloyd
12-08-2009, 09:09 PM
One of the most overrated fighters to have ever walked the Earth.

That's just stupid.

Calilloyd
12-08-2009, 09:11 PM
i slightly agree with that

they give the impression that no one wants to fight him

well Martinez does
I'm sure Margarito would take a rematch

it's abit early in his career to be making threads like this he hasn't really even had a career determining fight yet

if he beats Pavlik which i don't think he will (after seeing what Martinez did to him Kelly gonna land that big right and it's lights out after that) then he goes up in my estimation slightly

i feel for Chad Dawson he is a true champion and literally has no one there to fight

this thing about Williams being the most avoided fighter in the sport is a myth


Kelly Pavlik pulling out twice to avoid Williams wasn't a myth. And Margarito never wanted a rematch. And speaking of overrated, Pavlik is the man. Not a single title defense against a legitimate opponent. Big difference between Pavlik and Sergio Martinez.

MOTHER DUCKER
12-09-2009, 01:25 AM
That's just stupid.

What Elite fighter has Williams actually faced? Winky is all i can think off and the dude was pushing 38 was 2 years out of the game also. The guy is hyped up as the second coming yet has really done very little to warrant it or the silly "most avoided man" crap.

BennyST
12-09-2009, 07:15 AM
Something tells me this is an alt created to stir ****.

Gojira
12-09-2009, 12:24 PM
Geroge Foreman? Archie Moore? Marvin Hagler?

i would predict that they would all knock him out in brutal fashion.