View Full Version : Forget the fighters...over and underrated FIGHTS!


TyrantT316
04-18-2005, 12:52 PM
I want to hear your opinions on over and underrated fights and specific performances.

Slipx
04-18-2005, 01:06 PM
pac morales-failed to live up to the 'fight of the year' hype everyone paid 44.95 to see, however i was still satisfied because it was a damn good fight, but no fight of the year thats for sure.

Tha Greatest
04-18-2005, 01:07 PM
Arce-Hussein was great

cupcrazy01
04-18-2005, 01:31 PM
I think Hamed-Kelley is underrated, what a terrific fight. Anyone who saw it knows what I'm saying, but think about it, if Kelley had kept his cool after the first time he got knocked down, he would have Barrera'd the Prince but in KTFO fashion. Hamed was getting clobbered in this fight, and Kelley had the power to finish him. Hell, he had him wobbly several times and on the canvas three times. But he got greedy and went after Hamed wildly and paid the price. Give Naseem credit for that, but Kelley made such a huge mistake...then again, I guess if I had someone down three times in 4 rounds, I'd probably try to finish him too...just a tough outcome for Kelley...

Why was there no immediate rematch? Hmm...

oldgringo
04-18-2005, 01:34 PM
I don't see how Pac/Morales didn't live up to the hype. There wasn't one dull moment in the fight and these are two elite guys we're talking about...not two borderline journeyman. I guess for a fight to be FOTY these days you have to have 3000 punches thrown with 4 KD's and a 12th rd KO.

The Troll
04-18-2005, 01:41 PM
I don't see how Pac/Morales didn't live up to the hype. There wasn't one dull moment in the fight and these are two elite guys we're talking about...not two borderline journeyman. I guess for a fight to be FOTY these days you have to have 3000 punches thrown with 4 KD's and a 12th rd KO.

underrated: Tyson vs Razor Ruddock II, Golota vs Bowe I and II.

overrated: most of De La Hoya pay-per-views.

Martin (Top Knowledge)
04-18-2005, 01:53 PM
pac morales-failed to live up to the 'fight of the year' hype everyone paid 44.95 to see, however i was still satisfied because it was a damn good fight, but no fight of the year thats for sure.
Pacman vs Morales was a GREAT! fight... FANTASTIC!!!
It's one of the best fights I've seen in ages!

It was a CRACKER!... I reckon it will win fight of the year!.. (Tszyu vs Hatton pending)

Truth
04-18-2005, 02:45 PM
Pacman vs Morales was a GREAT! fight... FANTASTIC!!!
It's one of the best fights I've seen in ages!

It was a CRACKER!... I reckon it will win fight of the year!.. (Tszyu vs Hatton pending)

I agree Pac vs. Morales did live up to the hype, what a great it was. Fight of the year as of now.

Warrior Spirit
04-18-2005, 03:26 PM
I always thought Holyfield-Dokes was a great underrated battle.

I think also that Tyson-Ruddock 1 was an underrated fight to some degree.

Warrior Spirit
04-18-2005, 03:33 PM
pac morales-failed to live up to the 'fight of the year' hype everyone paid 44.95 to see, however i was still satisfied because it was a damn good fight, but no fight of the year thats for sure.

Are you kidding? How the **** can you say that pac-morales failed to live up to the hype? Pac-Morales was a battle royale, with both men showing great heart and both guys going balls to the wall.

If your gonna comment on a fight, make sure what you say isn't completely retarded.

RwK
04-18-2005, 03:35 PM
Johnny Tapia V.S. Danny Romero.

Hardly ever hear anyone speak about that fight other than yours truly. The most underrated fight of all time IMO, as well as the biggest upset I have ever seen next to Tyson V.S. Douglas.

Johnny's performance, and backflip will never be forgotten.

SacTown1
04-18-2005, 06:12 PM
Johnny Tapia V.S. Danny Romero.

Hardly ever hear anyone speak about that fight other than yours truly. The most underrated fight of all time IMO, as well as the biggest upset I have ever seen next to Tyson V.S. Douglas.

Johnny's performance, and backflip will never be forgotten.
Johnny was the betting favorite by fight-time, wasn't really an upset....

I'll take Lennox Lewis-Ray Mercer as one of the most under-rated fights, great slug-fest featuring a prime Lewis in a war vs. a granite-chinned Mercer

SacTown1
04-18-2005, 06:16 PM
I think Hamed-Kelley is underrated, what a terrific fight. Anyone who saw it knows what I'm saying, but think about it, if Kelley had kept his cool after the first time he got knocked down, he would have Barrera'd the Prince but in KTFO fashion. Hamed was getting clobbered in this fight, and Kelley had the power to finish him. Hell, he had him wobbly several times and on the canvas three times. But he got greedy and went after Hamed wildly and paid the price. Give Naseem credit for that, but Kelley made such a huge mistake...then again, I guess if I had someone down three times in 4 rounds, I'd probably try to finish him too...just a tough outcome for Kelley...

Why was there no immediate rematch? Hmm...
Great call, the Prince's 1st fight in the US, his 1st power-punching challenger, a great see-saw battle....

the undercard fight was an underground classic as well, Junior Jones whupped Kennedy McKinney for 3 1/2 rounds then ran outta gas and ran into a wicked right hand by The King

{BrownBomber}
04-18-2005, 06:31 PM
How about Castillo-Lazcano.
I think it was under rated along with the most under rated boxer(Castillo).

Holyfield-Cooper was a classic and under rated.

Tito-Oscar way over rated.
The most disapointing fight of all time!!!!
You hardly ever get 2 guys this good to fight in their primes!!!!
This should of been a Hagler-Hearns type of collision.

borikua
04-18-2005, 07:20 PM
Tito-Oscar way over rated.
The most disapointing fight of all time!!!!
You hardly ever get 2 guys this good to fight in their primes!!!!
This should of been a Hagler-Hearns type of collision.

yeah, And we all know who's fault it is....

abdiel2k3
04-18-2005, 07:27 PM
hes right
it was a competeive qualtiy to be FOTY
if u didnt know who they were
we woulda all said whata lame ass mismatch
and u all know dats the truth

Kimmy
04-18-2005, 07:27 PM
Great call, the Prince's 1st fight in the US, his 1st power-punching challenger, a great see-saw battle....

the undercard fight was an underground classic as well, Junior Jones whupped Kennedy McKinney for 3 1/2 rounds then ran outta gas and ran into a wicked right hand by The King
I remember this fight and it was weird. Jones was dominating McKinney, really big time then just fell apart. Jones` chin lost this fight, if Junior Jones can a rock chin, he`d have been pound for pound material!

{BrownBomber}
04-18-2005, 08:02 PM
yeah, And we all know who's fault it is....


What :confused: who :confused:
oooohhhhhhhhh.................
I know what your trying to say.
He lost, serves him right!!
This is the reason Mexican fans never liked his ass.
Could he be mixed with black?

RwK
04-18-2005, 09:14 PM
Johnny was the betting favorite by fight-time, wasn't really an upset....




Romero was the odds on favorite at 3-2, and should have been higher. Johnny's odds might have grown closer toward fight time....but I am not sure. Every boxing expert was picking Romero to win, and Johnny came out and shocked everyone.

Dave Iamele: (Boxing Journalist)

I told Johnny that Danny was a visitor to the Hall last year and that I'd spent some time with him. Danny was very confident that he would beat him (Tapia) and that although the odds were very close before the bout, it seemed many people I spoke to were in agreement. I inquired as to why, it seemed, that Danny was regarded so highly before their bout, while Johnny may have been underestimated?

nobody was picking Tapia. Nor was any of the H.B.O. crew.

We need to ask Rick who he thought was going to win this fight. I will bet you 100K that he was picking Romero.

Round 1
04-18-2005, 09:40 PM
The Barrera vs. Fana was way over rated IMO. The fight took place here in El Paso, here’s a few observations;

1. The Lazcano fight was cancelled and replaced with a four rounder
2. We were told that the PPV was going to be blacked out locally and
If you wanted to watch the fight , you better buy your ticket and go to the venue
3. The morning of the fight, they announced that the black out was lifted, as it was a sell out, and for everybody to order the PPV. There were two thousand tickets left by fight time. 10,100 tickets sold on a 12,000 seat arena.
4. Abner Mares, a former Mexican Olympian, was scheduled to fight and his fight was cancelled, there was no replacement for this fight.
5. The Barrera fight lasted five minutes
6. The event was over by 9:25 PM local time, they stopped selling beer by 8:30
7. There was no Lampley, Merchant, Jones Jr or Lederman calling the action.
8. The Golden Boy looked pretty happy though.

Round 1
04-18-2005, 10:40 PM
The Romero vs Tapia fight was a dream fight for New Mexicans, it was for the pride of Albuquerque. A lot of bad blood going on prior to this fight.
Tapias former trainer was Romeros father, as a kid, Danny Romero used to be told to go to school,educate himself and train hard so he would't grow up to be a drug addict and a jail bird like Johnny Tapia.
I remember this fight like if it happened yesterday, Danny refusing to aknowledge Tapias wanting to touch gloves after rounds and Tapias looking at the camera in between rounds and saying "I'm your champion Albuquerque"