Nautilus
04-17-2005, 09:37 PM
Tyson vs. Wlad K is bound to happen in the next 3-4 months, VK said in the interview to Lenta.ru.
Any predictions for this fight?
Any predictions for this fight?
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View Full Version : Tyson vs. Wlad K in the making Nautilus 04-17-2005, 09:37 PM Tyson vs. Wlad K is bound to happen in the next 3-4 months, VK said in the interview to Lenta.ru. Any predictions for this fight? PBDS 04-17-2005, 09:40 PM ...If Wlad has his head screwed on right then this fight is a mismatch with Wlad beating Tyson unmercifully until a 6th round KO. Otherwise, Wlad is fighting for his life and trying to avoid Tyson bombs while hopefully landing his own. spinksjinx 04-17-2005, 10:00 PM ...If Wlad has his head screwed on right then this fight is a mismatch with Wlad beating Tyson unmercifully until a 6th round KO. Otherwise, Wlad is fighting for his life and trying to avoid Tyson bombs while hopefully landing his own. Sanders destroyed Wlad in two, Tyson has faster and heavier hands...It is doom for Wlad...Stamina issues Glass chin....Should be a good 4 rounder. The Troll 04-17-2005, 10:04 PM If Wlad survies Tyson's onslaughts and goes on to win in demolishing deconstructing fashion nobody will ever doubt him again. If he is KO'd in round 1 he can retire with a couple more mil$ in his pocket. Any fighter that has a chance to fight to Tyson should take it IMO. Most money, most exposure, etc. It would be a really good time for Wlad to get a win against the Iron Mike Tyson at this point in his career where nobody is taking him seriously anymore due to not having a chin. If he wins nobody will doubt him and more importantly he wont doubt himself. If he looses, well he looses, he has lost before, everybody expects him to lose. So really, he has nothing to lose. There is actually alot of things Wlad has going for him this matchup. He takes body shots well. He hits hard, he has a good jab, reasonably fast hands for a guy his size, a high punch output. Those are alot of things you need to beat Tyson. If he does not tire and can take a few taps on the chin, and stays relaxed he can win. and most in the boxing world will again take him seriously again. Tyson knowing Wlad's rep is going to come out as always, but extra hard, with every single thing he has in the 1st round, if Wlad survives that look for him to win the fight. Neuraxis 04-17-2005, 10:05 PM This is very dumb on part of the Klitschko's. Wlad should be focusing on Castillo and not on a possible fight with Tyson in the future. spinksjinx 04-17-2005, 10:06 PM If Wlad survies Tyson's onslaughts and goes on to win in demolishing deconstructing fashion nobody will ever doubt him again. If he is KO'd in round 1 he can retire with a couple more mil$ in his pocket. Any fighter that has a chance to fight to Tyson should take it IMO. Most money, most exposure, etc. It would be a really good time for Wlad to get a win against the Iron Mike Tyson at this point in his career where nobody is taking him seriously anymore due to not having a chin. If he wins nobody will doubt him and more importantly he wont doubt himself. If he looses, well he looses, he has lost before, everybody expects him to lose. So really, he has nothing to lose. You are completely wrong, Every real boxing fan not the delusioned KNOWS Tyson is done and really any top contender would beat him. Have you not watched the news lately? Tyson's upcoming fight is getting trashed not because of Mcbride but because noone can take Tyson seriously anymore. !! Mr. Soprano 04-17-2005, 10:07 PM I don't know.. tough call, could go either way AintGottaClue 04-17-2005, 10:08 PM wlad needs to get out of his brothers way, and vitali needs to stop trying to boost bacck up wlad's image, vitali my man u r it u should be fighting byrd and tyson and the other guys with the belt, wlad is younger he can wait inm the backgroud a bit and let u shine Truth 04-17-2005, 10:08 PM Sanders destroyed Wlad in two, Tyson has faster and heavier hands...It is doom for Wlad...Stamina issues Glass chin....Should be a good 4 rounder. I agree, Tyson even at this stage would expse Wlad's glass jaw. The Troll 04-17-2005, 10:11 PM You are completely wrong, Every real boxing fan not the delusioned KNOWS Tyson is done and really any top contender would beat him. Have you not watched the news lately? Tyson's upcoming fight is getting trashed not because of Mcbride but because noone can take Tyson seriously anymore. Tyson is still feared and respected as a puncher by most, if Wlad gets past him his stock goes way up. I dont think there is any way anybody can argue against that. !! Mr. Soprano 04-17-2005, 10:12 PM besides, you're underestimating Vlad. He sucked in his last 3 fights (not counting Moli) but you never know what he will look like on Saturday... lets wait to see his performance on Saturday before jumping to conclusion about Tyson KO in 1. Truth 04-17-2005, 10:13 PM With Wlad's confidence and chin I think a Tyson fight is very dangerous. phallus 04-17-2005, 10:14 PM I agree, Tyson even at this stage would expse Wlad's glass jaw. this is ****ing sad...a buddy of mine in the gym who knows nothing about boxing said to me the other day..."mike tyson is one fight away from a title shot" - this could be it, even a shot tyson ( which he is ) if he has any power left he'll knock the **** out of Wladdy's glass chin and get a shot at Big K. frankenstein will KO tyson and hopefully there won't be any more "comebacks" Neuraxis 04-17-2005, 10:16 PM besides, you're underestimating Vlad. He sucked in his last 3 fights (not counting Moli) but you never know what he will look like on Saturday... lets wait to see his performance on Saturday before jumping to conclusion about Tyson KO in 1. Three fights ago he TKO'd Nicholson in 4. I think you mean last 2 fights ever since Steward has been onboard. !! Mr. Soprano 04-17-2005, 10:17 PM Ohh and BTW , lets not forget who Vlad's trainer is.... spinksjinx 04-17-2005, 10:21 PM Tyson is still feared and respected as a puncher by most, if Wlad gets past him his stock goes way up. I dont think there is any way anybody can argue against that. I disagree again all the boxers know to beat Tyson you have to stand up to him in the first half and he will just die down the second half. Tyson hasnt been feared since Botha took him to school. A lot of the top contenders seem to have pretty good beards on them and tight defenses.....I wouldnt favor Tyson over any top 5 fighter right now....Williams survived Tysons onslaught knee injury or not it wouldnt have mattered...Williams held on onto Tyson and pushed his weight against him to tire and recover (Williams was out on his feet). The Troll 04-17-2005, 10:23 PM I disagree again all the boxers know to beat Tyson you have to stand up to him in the first half and he will just die down the second half. Tyson hasnt been feared since Botha took him to school. A lot of the top contenders seem to have pretty good beards on them and tight defenses.....I wouldnt favor Tyson over any top 5 fighter right now....Williams survived Tysons onslaught knee injury or not it wouldnt have mattered...Williams held on onto Tyson and pushed his weight against him to tire and recover (Williams was out on his feet). You just repeated what I said. That if Wlad surives early he has a chance to win. You should have read my original post more clearly. Before repeating what I said in my first post on this thread. Tyson knowing Wlad's rep is going to come out as always, but extra hard, with every single thing he has in the 1st round, if Wlad survives that look for him to win the fight. spinksjinx 04-17-2005, 10:29 PM I stand corrected but Wlads style doesnt let him Hold he backs up in an awkward fashion and keeps his guard down and tries to box.... Bad Intentions 04-17-2005, 10:56 PM im sorry but wlads confidence is gone he will be terrified of Tyson, and he wont come out like he did against brewster. He will back up trying to box probally similar to when he fought Williamson. And he got dropped by williamson, I think if Tyson landed anything the fight will be over, maybe not on that one punch but will lead to a KO or TKO. Truth 04-17-2005, 11:03 PM im sorry but wlads confidence is gone he will be terrified of Tyson, and he wont come out like he did against brewster. He will back up trying to box probally similar to when he fought Williamson. And he got dropped by williamson, I think if Tyson landed anything the fight will be over, maybe not on that one punch but will lead to a KO or TKO. Thats what I am saying, if Lamon Brewster made Wlad crumble imagine what Tyson could do. Not to degrace Wlad or his fans honestly, but in my opinion Tyson could end is career if they fought. Neuraxis 04-17-2005, 11:05 PM Thats what I am saying, if Lamon Brewster made Wlad crumble imagine what Tyson could do. Not to degrace Wlad or his fans honestly, but in my opinion Tyson could end is career if they fought. Maybe so, but Tyson would not be able to take as much punishment as Brewster took. Truth 04-17-2005, 11:06 PM Maybe so, but Tyson would not be able to take as much punishment as Brewster took. Thats a very good point, Tyson would have to end it quick. Neuraxis 04-17-2005, 11:13 PM Thats a very good point, Tyson would have to end it quick. Agreed that's why I think this a dumb fight for Wlad especially if he looks good against Castillo. If he beats Tyson, everyone will say that it means nothing because even Danny Williams beat him, but if he loses he will probably be finished. Stickman 04-17-2005, 11:18 PM Sanders destroyed Wlad in two, Tyson has faster and heavier hands...It is doom for Wlad...Stamina issues Glass chin....Should be a good 4 rounder. Tyson...faster, heavier hands than Corrie Sanders? Not a chance. Stickman 04-17-2005, 11:20 PM ...If Wlad has his head screwed on right then this fight is a mismatch with Wlad beating Tyson unmercifully until a 6th round KO. Otherwise, Wlad is fighting for his life and trying to avoid Tyson bombs while hopefully landing his own. IF Vlad has his head on straight, yeah. And it won't be 6 rounds, if Vlad is performing as he's actually capable of. It'll be more like 3, 4 tops. Vlad has huge power, much more so than his brother. If he lands flush, it's lights-out for Mike. However, if Vlad is timid or tentative, he's liable to end up getting his ass waxed again. Truth 04-17-2005, 11:21 PM IF Vlad has his head on straight, yeah. And it won't be 6 rounds, if Vlad is performing as he's actually capable of. It'll be more like 3, 4 tops. Vlad has huge power, much more so than his brother. If he lands flush, it's lights-out for Mike. However, if Vlad is timid or tentative, he's liable to end up getting his ass waxed again. Exactly... :cool: Truth 04-17-2005, 11:22 PM IF Vlad has his head on straight, yeah. And it won't be 6 rounds, if Vlad is performing as he's actually capable of. It'll be more like 3, 4 tops. Vlad has huge power, much more so than his brother. If he lands flush, it's lights-out for Mike. However, if Vlad is timid or tentative, he's liable to end up getting his ass waxed again. Exactly... :cool: Kid Achilles 04-17-2005, 11:30 PM Sanders is much quicker than Tyson. Botha is not a slick boxer and doesn't have outstanding reflexes but he saw Tyson's shots coming from a mile away until he got ****y and let his guard down. Todays version of Tyson has above average handspeed but it isn't great. In terms of power, I'd say Corrie is better in that department as well. The Troll 04-18-2005, 12:00 AM IF Vlad has his head on straight, yeah. And it won't be 6 rounds, if Vlad is performing as he's actually capable of. It'll be more like 3, 4 tops. Vlad has huge power, much more so than his brother. If he lands flush, it's lights-out for Mike. However, if Vlad is timid or tentative, he's liable to end up getting his ass waxed again. Exactly... :cool: Mike Tyson's chin is extremely underrated, it is probably as good as Brewsters. See \Tyson vs Razor Ruddock Tyson vs Bruno Tyson vs Douglas and other fights where he demonstrates an iron chin. Particularly against Razor Ruddoch. It makes no difference though, if Wlad survives round 1 and 2 and establishes his game he can break down Tyson and get a KO or TKO in the middle or later rounds. If Wlad wins he will stop Tyson around round 7 or 8 by KO or TKO. If Tyson wins it will almost certainly be before the end of round 2 by KO joeboxer 04-18-2005, 12:14 AM Tyson went 8 rounds with Lewis. That's more than the "good" Klitchco. I know tyson is a 3 round fighter but I think he could ez pull a brewster like beating and then rock Wlady as soon as the big man lost his wind. Neuraxis 04-18-2005, 12:26 AM Tyson went 8 rounds with Lewis. That's more than the "good" Klitchco. I know tyson is a 3 round fighter but I think he could ez pull a brewster like beating and then rock Wlady as soon as the big man lost his wind. Went being the key word. Fighters get old. joeboxer 04-18-2005, 12:28 AM Went being the key word. Fighters get old. So is it your opinion that all those crazy tough fights he's been in since then have really aged him? joeboxer 04-18-2005, 12:29 AM admittedly that knee may never come back to normal. You just don't know. But I don't think he has been through a lot of rigorous training that would take it out of him. Neuraxis 04-18-2005, 12:42 AM So is it your opinion that all those crazy tough fights he's been in since then have really aged him? Mentally he doesn't seem to be there, and Lewis and his knee injury aged him quite a bit. joeboxer 04-18-2005, 12:46 AM Mentally he doesn't seem to be there, and Lewis and his knee injury aged him quite a bit. Mike wasn't menatlly there in 1985. cupcrazy01 04-18-2005, 07:42 AM I'd pay 50 bucks for this PROVIDED they put on a good undercard... If Tyson wins a couple of fights and Wlad does likewise to set this fight up, there'd be a lot of electricity for this matchup. It would be an explosive slugfest from the bell...I wonder what the over/under for rounds would be...I'm guessing 3.5. Shaolin Bushido 04-18-2005, 07:49 AM Tyson vs. Wlad K is bound to happen in the next 3-4 months, VK said in the interview to Lenta.ru. Any predictions for this fight?I like Tyson in this one. Vlad will hyperventilate before the first bell sounds at the prospects of mixing it up with boxing's bad boy and then claim DK did him in. M26 04-18-2005, 09:30 AM If this fight is made, I canīt imagine Tyson winning. He is so finished and far beyond his glory days, it is almost heartbreaking. His power and speed only last through the first round these days, and I donīt believe Wlad would get knocked out that early. He would stick around long enough to start pounding away at will at olī Mike. Tysons solid chin would make him able to hang on for a few rounds, but sooner or later he would go down for keeps. Wlad by mid round ko. Tha Greatest 04-18-2005, 09:42 AM If Tyson fights Wlad, it will be torture... First Mike Tyson will come and try and knock him out in the first round, then he will be successful at it... enadeus 04-18-2005, 10:58 AM If this fight does happen and is official, it will be the best opponent Tyson has faced in a while. I CANT WAIT! |