View Full Version : how to beat a fast jab


thatjamaicanguy
12-05-2009, 04:31 AM
This guy i found on youtube, he's 43 years old and he's in great condition, i admire him for being so fit at that age. i was just watching him and...well you watch and see for yourself

http://www.youtube.com/user/SuperTheJET#p/u/0/100VbaZzwhM

I'm not an expert, or a trainer, i don't teach boxing or nothing, i'm just obsessed with the sport.

When i was watching, the wheels started turning in my head creating a strategy if i hypothetically had someone fighting this guy. Of course i could be totally wrong about this guy because this is just what he's doing with a bag.

Correct my strategy if you see flaws, i'd really love you see your guys' strategy too.

#1: this guy favors the jab over any of his other punches, but he does use other punches well. But he'll do it in a sort of predictable pattern. He'll flurry jabs, 1-2 1-2 and then he'll go to the body..Left hook flurry, then right hooks, then an uppercut somewhere in there.

#2: When he's attacking, he's punching excessively, i think he's punching too much (but when is too much too much??:thinking:) After he flurries for a couple seconds he'll back off

#3: His punches have speed, but they seem like arm punches. It's sort of a trade off. He does turn with his punches, but not a whole lot.

#4: When he flurries he plants his feet, and his body is squared

#5: He doesn't move his head.

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First off i would want a fighter that fought well moving forward and has a good rhythm along with head movement. And preferably a fighter that likes to go to the body.

#1's Solution: To deal with his speedy flurries of jabs, i would tell my fighter to pay attention to range. Pay attention to range because his jabs will flicking out all the time, and if you neutralize the jab, he can't put his punches together.

#2's Solution: Make him miss, make him tired, angle out, and make him pay. He focuses on Straight punches, and hooks to the body, so it makes sense to step over and get him good. And when he backs off, you get him to the ropes and put your punches together.

#3's Solution: Neutralize the speed. Go to the body, put money in the bank, whatever you call it.

#4's Solution: When he plants his feet, you know he's going to trade, and though his punches are fast, they aren't terribly strong, so you have to really dig your punches in if you decide to trade.

#5: Solution: Test his head movement. Even though your first priority is taking away the speed by body punching, jab to his head to see if he knows how to bob and weave. And feint some punches. If you feint, his head will be stuck out there, welcoming your straight or hook.

Again, feedback is welcomed and appreciated. Add your own strategies, and correct mine. :thinking:

Kiid Dynamite
12-05-2009, 04:36 AM
Dude this guy sucks... I watched a bit of the video and he sucks

I aint even going to read the rest what you wrote

just move your head and punch and get off first

he sucks.. if ur having problems with him well you suck

thatjamaicanguy
12-05-2009, 04:41 AM
well thanks for the reply anyways

Kiid Dynamite
12-05-2009, 04:42 AM
its cool, just remember:

- move your head and punch

- get your punches off first

thatjamaicanguy
12-05-2009, 05:02 AM
cool man. thanks

Richie-G
12-05-2009, 07:22 AM
the bloke in the video is pretty **** lool

mrboxer
12-05-2009, 09:54 AM
you need work,your hands are way to low,your chin is out to much,try keeping your hands up and throw a jab another jab then a right,then change the combos around,you are not bad for someone that just hit the bag for the first time,but like i said you need work,so keeep training and if you need more tips dont be shy just ask:boxing:

alza1988
12-05-2009, 10:58 AM
I just read in a technique magazine .The speedy jabber spends most his time working on his jab enabling them to close the ring up .The key is to get past his jab and break the rythm of the opponent, thus messing up his limited strategy .That's it probably . Roll and get inside past his jab is probably your best option.Move your head ,slip , bob weave etc.

MidnightSpecial
12-05-2009, 11:23 AM
best way is to make him pay when he throws that jab...the more you make him pay the less he throws that jab out.

ScottDBA
12-05-2009, 01:40 PM
Oh man that's funny. I like how he has the longer shorts underneath his tiny Muay Thai shorts.

thatjamaicanguy
12-05-2009, 02:23 PM
this is good stuff guys

MidnightSpecial
12-05-2009, 02:54 PM
also think about when they throw that jab to counter with a straight to the body. most people who jab alot have their head well protected so make em pay.

also a good old overhand right will get you over their jab and shoulder, and on to you opponents chin.

bernardotelo
12-05-2009, 07:23 PM
you need work,your hands are way to low,your chin is out to much,try keeping your hands up and throw a jab another jab then a right,then change the combos around,you are not bad for someone that just hit the bag for the first time,but like i said you need work,so keeep training and if you need more tips dont be shy just ask:boxing:


it isn't him....its a guy he saw on youtube...........:spankme:

#1Assassin
12-05-2009, 08:12 PM
also think about when they throw that jab to counter with a straight to the body. most people who jab alot have their head well protected so make em pay.

also a good old overhand right will get you over their jab and shoulder, and on to you opponents chin.

the key to beating a jabber is headmovement. and its important to use your own jab, even if you cant outjab him it will disrupt his rhytm and make his jab less effective.

the right hand to the body should be a hook, not a straight. step to the right and throw it outside the elbow.

also just to mention, if you want the overhand right u need to get low. that way he will jab down and leave his ching open. if hes throwing the jab straight out his chin will be tucked behind his shoulder. again, headmovement is the key to beating someone with a good jab.

RightCross94
12-06-2009, 12:27 AM
If you are fighting a great jabber take away the jab. Parry it with your left and come over with a right, overhand right over his jab, parry it with your right and come over with a left hook, slip and counter with your own jab to the body etc

thatjamaicanguy
12-06-2009, 01:11 AM
the key to beating a jabber is headmovement. and its important to use your own jab, even if you cant outjab him it will disrupt his rhytm and make his jab less effective.

the right hand to the body should be a hook, not a straight. step to the right and throw it outside the elbow.

also just to mention, if you want the overhand right u need to get low. that way he will jab down and leave his ching open. if hes throwing the jab straight out his chin will be tucked behind his shoulder. again, headmovement is the key to beating someone with a good jab.

again these responses are all awesome :drillserg

Yea man i think it's all style preference. I would prefer stepping off out side the jab and hooking the body. Some people like the straight on top.

i remember an example of the Jabber getting Outjabbed. Shane Mosley vs Miguel Cotto. Great fight in terms of strategy

Malik
12-06-2009, 07:01 AM
that guys pretty ****ing fast.

GhostFighter
12-06-2009, 11:16 AM
If you are fighting a great jabber take away the jab. Parry it with your left and come over with a right, overhand right over his jab

Maybe im misunderstanding you but isnt it risky to parry a jab with ur own left hand because it would leave ur left face wide open for a quick righthand?

DeepSleep
12-06-2009, 08:09 PM
again these responses are all awesome :drillserg

Yea man i think it's all style preference. I would prefer stepping off out side the jab and hooking the body. Some people like the straight on top.

i remember an example of the Jabber getting Outjabbed. Shane Mosley vs Miguel Cotto. Great fight in terms of strategy

Mosley is fast but he never really had a great jab. His jab is quick but he throws it with no force behind it, I believe Emmanuel Steward explained it as a flipper once if my memory is correct. Try watching Norton vs. Ali I if you want to see two guys with excellent jabs try to go to work. If you are fighting someone who throws the jab continously remember to always keep your head moving the slightest of movements makes landing his jab much harder.

A good video on countering the left jab for you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uelw3miy_ig

STUNNA
12-06-2009, 08:16 PM
Check hook work's......

Ogecca MaMa
12-06-2009, 08:18 PM
i rofled.. he is so serious ))
and he barely lands those jabs.. in sparring his stamina would last few rounds and then u dont have to worry about jab.

RightCross94
12-06-2009, 09:01 PM
Maybe im misunderstanding you but isnt it risky to parry a jab with ur own left hand because it would leave ur left face wide open for a quick righthand?

It can be, but if you do it quickly they don't have time to react, and keep the parry small and don;t reach out and drop it down, just bang short and sharp and throw the right over the top

Malik
12-06-2009, 10:15 PM
It can be, but if you do it quickly they don't have time to react, and keep the parry small and don;t reach out and drop it down, just bang short and sharp and throw the right over the top
u parry a left jab with ur own right and quickly come down with a straight. You had it wrong.

Bushbaby
12-07-2009, 12:01 AM
Beating a fast jab,depends on the jab,is it hard,does it feel like a cross??Keep ur hands high,practice head movement!!But throw ur jab too!!Step with ur 1st jab as u double up!!Stepping into ur 1st jab,gives it extra pop!!Don't be afraid to jab with him,keep it pumping,u'll do well!!

creative
12-07-2009, 12:39 AM
putting ur face:bottle:

thatjamaicanguy
12-07-2009, 01:24 AM
I would like to give hard left, right, left, right body hooks a little like Tyson and Juan Diaz does, i can only imagine how much it takes out of someone.

Anyone have thoughts on this?

Spartacus Sully
12-07-2009, 01:49 AM
Anyone mention a right cross if the jab is sloppy? thats also viable.

seems a few people have kinda suggested it. if hes droping his shoulder just get the timing down slip the jab over your right shoulder as you go in with an overhand right.

RightCross94
12-07-2009, 02:24 AM
u parry a left jab with ur own right and quickly come down with a straight. You had it wrong.

parry a left with your right and then throw a right? Nah, you need to re set from the parry to throw a proper right and by then they would have moved out of range or attacked you.

And no I didn't have it wrong, the parry cross scores a point nearly every time and I often use it to great affect.

DeepSleep
12-07-2009, 03:24 AM
parry a left with your right and then throw a right? Nah, you need to re set from the parry to throw a proper right and by then they would have moved out of range or attacked you.

And no I didn't have it wrong, the parry cross scores a point nearly every time and I often use it to great affect.

Parrying with your opposite hand is very dangerous and normally isn't taught as main defense to the jab I'm surprised you have so much success with it. The parry he is talking about is a very faint tap down with the right hand almost en-route to you throwing it, there was a guy who I used to box with a few years ago in my gym who used to use that quick-tap down right hand to great affect and still does in the pros (Shout out Lionell :wave:).

Malik
12-07-2009, 07:08 AM
Parrying with your opposite hand is very dangerous and normally isn't taught as main defense to the jab I'm surprised you have so much success with it. The parry he is talking about is a very faint tap down with the right hand almost en-route to you throwing it, there was a guy who I used to box with a few years ago in my gym who used to use that quick-tap down right hand to great affect and still does in the pros (Shout out Lionell :wave:).
thats exactly what im talkin about, by the time u tap it and quickly come down his head would be in perfect position.

thatjamaicanguy
12-07-2009, 10:49 PM
how about a short uppercut. You could duck into his chest and just rip an uppercut

he has a pretty long reach so for a shorter guy it could work