2nd fight he's poked someone's eye. Discuss.

Ok well first you haters need to quit trying to make pitiful excuses to discredit Chucks victories. Second baby scratch or not Randy continued and got his bell rung like never before. "Chuck threw a punch and his pinkie was out," McCarthy told Ninja Star. "It just kind of grazed (Couture's) eye. We wanted to stop to make sure it wasn't cut." Third I totally respect Randy even as a die hard Chuck fan but if you clowns really think that the little baby scratch that was actually on the bridge of is nose hurt Randy that much then Randy is not as tough as I give him credit for. What's all the crap about the thumb, I watched the fight and what I saw that came close to the eye was a pinkie that caught Randy on the tail end of a Liddell punch. How about mentioning Chucks reaction when he thought the doctor was going to stop it for a split second, it was obvious he was upset because he didn't want to win that way. Time to face the fact my friends Liddell is champion and it's gonna take a true soilder to take that away from him. Tito is too afraid so it may be Randy again but at his age it's tough to see.................

Randy got his time out then continued so no problems. As for the Tito fight, regardless of wether or not Chuck would win anyway, the thumb was a factor in the outcome.

Randy got his time out then continued so no problems. As for the Tito fight, regardless of wether or not Chuck would win anyway, the thumb was a factor in the outcome.
Yeah, it's probably more accurate to say he stuck two fingers in his eye; down around the knuckle joints closest to his hand.

KTFO, great win for Chuck against both Randy and Tito.

Excuses ....

Ok well first you haters need to quit trying to make pitiful excuses to discredit Chucks victories.

How is it a pitiful excuse if it's the third fight in a row he has been accused of eye gouging? If he wants more credit for his wins, maybe he should keep his thumbs out of other fighter's eyes. It's up to him, not us.

Randy didn't accuse him of that, the only ones who are accusing him are the guys who have a vendetta against Chuck for some unknown reason. Guys like you who like to make excuses for why someone got knocked out. Matt Hughes didn't make excuses after getting hit in the nuts, he recovered and won the fight. As far as tito goes *rolling my eyes* he got his skull caved in, I can't believe anyone would question that.............

Lidell is the champ, simple as that. He was determined for years and now his time is here. The two best LH faced each other and the best man on that night won. Accept it and look forward.

This is why Chuck won

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Tito, Vernon and now Randy. They need to tape Chuck's fingers down.

This is why Chuck won

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that is one sick ass KO
man
im gonna have to watch some UFC from time to time

Tito, Vernon and now Randy. They need to tape Chuck's fingers down.
C'mon man ... Vernon? Respect for fighting and all but he was getting bombed from the word ... "on!"

Chuck realized from the last fight and probably from training and talking to Randy and others familiar with him that he stood with him last time and probably would too much, this time.

He avoided the clinch by backing away and maintaining room to punch and as Joe Rogan said more than once looked to counter. In particular, Randy's right hand. Randy led with it several times and if you look back at the fight you can clearly see Chuck waiting on him to throw it so he can counter. He stunned him just prior to the "scramble" that ended the fight and as Randy tried to mix it up so he could eventually grab Chuck, he ws tagged, cleanly.

Could happen to anyone who's popped right on the button and this time it did to Randy.

As it stands it remains to be seen how much Randy has left but I see no reason to conclude he's done. When he was arm-barred by Enson, he went ot school and hasn't been submitted since. He needs to go to school the same way on his stand-up, regain confidence in his ....

... and get back to taking guy's down as fast as he can so he can get his groundnpound on. Mixing it up like he has is just too big a risk when he's so dominant on the ground.

Regardless of the outcome of the fight, He has poked his last 3 opponents in eye.....

Regardless of the outcome of the fight, He has poked his last 3 opponents in eye.....
That's pretty common and understandable; that's why they don't use gloves like that in boxing. It's the risk you assume, realizing you need your fingers to grapple and apply subs.

At any rate, I bet Chuck wouldn't give a damn as long as the other guy had his taped too!

Chuck dont need his thumbs, when have you seen him grapple?

Yeah, it's probably more accurate to say he stuck two fingers in his eye; down around the knuckle joints closest to his hand.

KTFO, great win for Chuck against both Randy and Tito.

Excuses ....


I'm not making excuses you manipulative bastard. The worst nutthuggers here are the ones that won't hear anything but "Chuck is the man".

**** you cunt!

The Wiz is right, I dont think I've seen a case of nuthugging this bad since Lightweight/Silva......

The Wiz is right, I dont think I've seen a case of nuthugging this bad since Lightweight/Silva......

Ya, did you see the way Shaolin jumped on me, did you see that? He tryed to **** me!

****, I thought it was King Liddell you was talking too. I never figured Shaolin Bushido fer a nuthugger....

****, I thought it was King Liddell you was talking too. I never figured Shaolin Bushido fer a nuthugger....


All I did was mention that the thumb in the eye against Tito was a factor in the outcome of the fight.

He responded with sarcastic comments about the thumbing and then said

Excuses.....

I wasn't making any ****ing excuses for anyone, especially Tito.

The Wiz is right, I dont think I've seen a case of nuthugging this bad since Lightweight/Silva......
Kaps, how the **** am I nuthugging
Chuck? He ****ing won! You and several other guys keep making ****ing excuses as if he doesn't deserve it. You saw the goddamn fight; are you saying he shouldn't have won? Are you sayin he did that on purpose cause I ain't agreein with that ****! That is frankly, bull****.

This *****, Wizard ... I wasn't even talking to or of him! What the **** is he chiming in about? His ***** must still be sore from that ****ing I gave him this week! He's a kid ... he's supposed to be stupid but I gave you much more credit than that.

I ain't sayin he didn't stick him in the eye but it happens or are you tryin to say it doesn't happen much more frequently in this sport due to the gloves they use?

That was the worst case, and I think it didnt effected the outcome of the fight, but hurried the process along.....

That's what I think, but I do think that it's one of the most Pushed under the rug fouls in the last few years. This is MMA and anything can happen, I don't like Tito at all, be he deserved a better chance then that.

Chuck dont need his thumbs, when have you seen him grapple?
Dude ... you been hangin around willy too long.

Well, according to you guys he needs em to win. So, **** it. I wonder why no one was screaming bloody murder before he beat an all around good guy like Randy fair and square.

I guess, Chucks' a scrub or something and only wins when he cheats, huh?

Kaps, how the **** am I nuthugging
Chuck? He ****ing won! You and several other guys keep making ****ing excuses as if he doesn't deserve it. You saw the goddamn fight; are you saying he shouldn't have won? Are you sayin he did that on purpose cause I ain't agreein with that ****! That is frankly, bull****.

This *****, Wizard ... I wasn't even talking to or of him! What the **** is he chiming in about? His ***** must still be sore from that ****ing I gave him this week! He's a kid ... he's supposed to be stupid but I gave you much more credit than that.

I ain't sayin he didn't stick him in the eye but it happens or are you tryin to say it doesn't happen much more frequently in this sport due to the gloves they use?


Listen you Piece of ****, I've only seen one poster make excuses for the fight last night. You responded to my post about the Tito fight and ended it with "Excuses......"

**** you, you nutthugging bastard quit being so defensive for no ****ing reason or you will undoubtable create a horde of naysayers. STFU nutthugger. I like the way you try to speak to the crowd to win them over. You've been in alot of internet feuds, I can tell. Remember what I told you before, It's not healthy.

Not at all, I'm not sayin he does it on purpose, Chuck is probably the hardest hitting LHW in MMA today, his looping punches do cause him to poke some eyes from time to time. The eye poke didnt ko Randy, the shot to the jaw did.....

Kaps, how the **** am I nuthugging
Chuck? He ****ing won! You and several other guys keep making ****ing excuses as if he doesn't deserve it. You saw the goddamn fight; are you saying he shouldn't have won? Are you sayin he did that on purpose cause I ain't agreein with that ****! That is frankly, bull****.

This *****, Wizard ... I wasn't even talking to or of him! What the **** is he chiming in about? His ***** must still be sore from that ****ing I gave him this week! He's a kid ... he's supposed to be stupid but I gave you much more credit than that.

I ain't sayin he didn't stick him in the eye but it happens or are you tryin to say it doesn't happen much more frequently in this sport due to the gloves they use?


Whoa whoa cowboy, I already explained that I thought he was quoting that King Liddell dude. Dont get your pantys in a bunch bro, I already said I never figured you as a nuthugger.....

That's pretty common and understandable
No it's not. Name some other guys that have poked someone in the eye this much. Seriously it's a problem that needs to be addressed. Who gives a **** what the result of the fight was, the fact is that Chuck has poked his last 3 opponents in the eye.

Dude ... you been hangin around willy too long.

Well, according to you guys he needs em to win. So, **** it. I wonder why no one was screaming bloody murder before he beat an all around good guy like Randy fair and square.

I guess, Chucks' a scrub or something and only wins when he cheats, huh?

*Pulls chucks **** out of Shaolins mouth*

Listen to me nutthugger. I think everyone knows Chuck beat Randy, but he did poke him in the eye, I even saw a mark around randys eye after the fight. Since he took the time, and then continued, I don't ****ing care about it, but in the Tito fight, it was a factor. I missed the Vernon fight, but none the less he should keep his ****ing fists closed from now on like a good Champion. He IS the Champ now, and I give him credit. Lol, All the names you call me reflect you! Your a high strung joke kid! I haven't read to much about Chuck nt deserving the win but none the less your here screaming excuses excuses. Your a joke.

No it's not. Name some other guys that have poked someone in the eye this much. Seriously it's a problem that needs to be addressed. Who gives a **** what the result of the fight was, the fact is that Chuck has poked his last 3 opponents in the eye.


OMG....Are you making excuses, waaa waa waaa *crys like a baby*

Seriously though, I agree with you.

Wizard, if you want to talk **** at least make your punk ass way to OT. My bad for jacking your ass in this forum last week but it was the wrong place for it and not too challenging. If you want to talk about the fights, that's what I'm here for. In OT, well, that's what it's for.

Personally, I don't give a damn but the other posters likely ain't clicking on a MMA link to see you get your ass handed to you.

Go to OT and think up something good; it may rate a response ... but probably not.

If you re-read the post you referred to about the fingers; I WAS joking but how was that offensive to you?

Your insecurity is showing, son. It's understandable though; you're embarassed and feel that eveyone is laughing at you.

Believe me, no one even notices you. You're just another idiot here. Your flames man ... they leave alot to be desired.

Wizard, if you want to talk **** at least make your punk ass way to OT. My bad for jacking your ass in this forum last week but it was the wrong place for it and not too challenging. If you want to talk about the fights, that's what I'm here for. In OT, well, that's what it's for.

Personally, I don't give a damn but the other posters likely ain't clicking on a MMA link to see you get your ass handed to you.

Go to OT and think up something good; it may rate a response ... but probably not.

If you re-read the post you referred to about the fingers; I WAS joking but how was that offensive to you?

Your insecurity is showing, son. It's understandable though; you're embarassed and feel that eveyone is laughing at you.

Believe me, no one even notices you. You're just another idiot here. Your flames man ... they leave alot to be desired.

You are a real pro. Everything you say just doesn't apply, my grammer skills are terrible so I have a hard time describing how ****ing far off you are. So I'll leave it at that. Silva>Chuck

It's funny, Whenever we argue, you type like 1000 words to every 50 of mine. Your pathetic.

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It looks at though he swatted at Randy with an opened hand. What does *****ido think?

No it's not. Name some other guys that have poked someone in the eye this much. Seriously it's a problem that needs to be addressed. Who gives a **** what the result of the fight was, the fact is that Chuck has poked his last 3 opponents in the eye.
No one. No one gives a **** who won the fights man. That's why all the betting and joking preceded it. I know it's nothing serious, believe me. I don't give a ****. I just respect the fighters and based on what I see and know, accord them respect for winning AND losing well. I ain't sayin you don't respect em but there have been lots of comments dissing fighters and inevitably I comment on it. My opinion, that's all.

Yeah, if Chuck's actually doing something materially different from most fighters you'd think they'd notice during all his sparring leading up to his fights. 3 times in 3 fights could be something to it but it just may be bad luck. Maybe it is from the overhand punches but how is it no one else does it as frequently?

Fouls sometimes do contribute to a fighter's winning and losing and most of the time you can't tell how much either way. As everyone has admitted Chuck is the winner and that's it.

I've used humor ever since I came here, postin. Yeah, and sarcasm too! My comments to Wizard have been harsh at times but even then I'm just joking. In my opinion, he's more than earned it. He's a no it all and less tolerant of others opinions than anyone else that posts here. He's sensitive as a *****; he can dish it(barely) but can't take it at all.

Since he keeps sayin I'm tryin to influence you guys to dislike him(if you ain't irritated by him, maybe it's just an allergy I've developed) I am curious as to what you guys think about that comment.

Right now, I think I've got more of you irritated than him but I would like to hear it if you have an opinion on him, my distaste for him, or me for that matter.

Frankly, I'm surprised that I'm the only one who has flamed him. Well, there was Curly and Creed but mostly me.

Fire away.

You are a real pro. Everything you say just doesn't apply, my grammer skills are terrible so I have a hard time describing how ****ing far off you are. So I'll leave it at that. Silva>Chuck

It's funny, Whenever we argue, you type like 1000 words to every 50 of mine. Your pathetic.
"You're".

We don't have arguments. Arguments usually are the result of two or more people discussing the merits of a topic that they differ on, supporting their position with facts.

You and I don't do that. Let's start, because you're just making a fool of yourself, otherwise.

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I just see a still picture; and the resolution's not too good on my system. Maybe I can see something significant when I get to work tomorrow but I can't tell anything from that.

mma peeps, i hate to be a ****** and change the subject but can i get sakuraba's full name? :confused: pleeeeaaassseeeee :D

mma peeps, i hate to be a ****** and change the subject but can i get sakuraba's full name? :confused: pleeeeaaassseeeee :D
Kazushi Sakuraba.

I don't think that is his "given" name, btw. Kazushi is very close to "kuzushi" which means to unbalance your opponent before executing a throw or technique and I'm guessing that that is a name that was given to him somewhere along the way in his martial arts career.

Yeah, it's probably more accurate to say he stuck two fingers in his eye; down around the knuckle joints closest to his hand.

KTFO, great win for Chuck against both Randy and Tito.

Excuses ....
Hahaha, Wizard this is the post that "offended" you? You idiot; I was agreeing with you!

Lessee, can't spell nor comprehend. Yup! You're dumb.

His name translates to english as Cherry Tree Garden Harmony.....

Hmmm, I didn't know that.

renzo, ryan, royler, royce- now i understand, "the gracie hunter"
why does royce have a tko loss at 0:00?? against harold howard?

Because the fight never started. Royce came out to the cage but couldn't fight, Rorion said Royce was so dehydrated he lost his vision so he threw in the towel.

Amazing, one fragmented sentence caused this much drama.

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Right before the highlighted scrape he turns his hand to the side and rakes it across his eye too.

Curly, I can't view that gif; are you saying it looks suspicious?

Chuck Liddell has eye gouged his last three opponents. This is not a coincidence or a freak accident.

People can say it's common all they want, but it's not. Sure, it might happen from time to time, but I can't think of but about 2 other times excluding the past 3 Chuck fights. With open hand gloves, yes it can happen, it would be understandable if it happened once, but everytime you fight is getting a bit ridiculous. You can clearly see Chuck opening his hand and running it across Randy's eye in that gif on both eyes. Curly is right, he did the same thing with both hands. What a scumbag. I don't care if Randy loses the next 40 fights or if he has fought Chuck 40 times in the past and lost every single time. No eye gouging is a rule for a reason.

Curly, I can't view that gif; are you saying it looks suspicious?

Yeah it really does. Not saying he did it on purpose but his right hand is turned to the side where Chuck's thumb is facing Chuck and he runs it across Randy's eyes. Then the hand comes up and the thumb goes in to the eye

And I don't quite understand the "It would have happened anyway" approach, but whatever. Chuck didn't do anything differently this fight except actually move laterally, which is what normal fighters have done for years now. It's not the outcome of the fight that matters in this case anyway. It's that Chuck is using a "**** happens with open hand gloves" excuse to eye gouge opponents.

Yeah it really does. Not saying he did it on purpose but his right hand is turned to the side where Chuck's thumb is facing Chuck and he runs it across Randy's eyes. Then the hand comes up and the thumb goes in to the eye
Damn. I'm gonna hae to check that out, tomorrow. If that's so, they must be having a damn "watergate type" investigation of that fight on Sherdog and Ironlife and .... everywhere else!

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The Wiz is right, I dont think I've seen a case of nuthugging this bad since Lightweight/Silva......
I miss that little Canuck

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Chuck shows his punching technique

This is getting old. He showed his punching technique when he pounded through any attempts Tito made to protect himself, and he showed his punching technique when he dropped Couture like a dirty diaper last night and wailed on him until Big John called a stop to it. Tito knows he got beat down, Couture knows HE got beat down. Neither of them are talking about getting thumbed in the eye.

This is one of those situations where everyone's complaining except the only guy who has a right to, and he's taking his defeat like a man and giving credit to the new champ.

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Hey numbnuts that clip your showing isn't even when Randy got scraped. They weren't up against the fence it was in the middle of the octagon and it was a pinkie. Looks to me like your trying to create a controversy how about you let it go Chuck is the champ, he would have been champ a long time ago if Tito didn't dodge him. Randy is an excellent fighter but he doesn't have the striking skills to stand with Chuck. I'm a huge Liddell fan but I knew if it went to the ground that it was a good possibility he would lose. So quit *****ing about Chucks lack of grappling or wrestling skills who cares that's why it's a Mixed event because he doesn't have to fight on the ground to win. When you have knockout power like his why would you care about ground fighting, what because he fights to his strenghths that makes him less of a fighter? Give it up dude, anyone who would think that Chuck would want to win by that kind of tactic knows nothing of the man or frankly the sport.

On a lighter note how about the best line of the evening, when Randy was coming into the arena and the announcers were talking about how conditioned he looked. One of them said " he's got a six pack on his face" I thought that was classic.

Here ya go Cesaro, Curly and all you other whining ******* http://www.platuglen.dk/Barn1/crying.gif cry me a river.......

Give it up dude, anyone who would think that Chuck would want to win by that kind of tactic


he's won 3 times in a row with it.

Neither of them are talking about getting thumbed in the eye.

tito talked about it. vernon talked about it. i'm sure randy will be talking about it soon enough.

Curly and Cesaro are right. When I first saw the gif on another forum, it had the words"thumb away from eye". I did see the left hand "scrape" and as I watched closer, right before that scrape, I figured that the left thumb could have gouged the right eye but I dont know. Now seeing it even more, I see the right hand as well as the left hand like Cesaro posted. You guys are good!

But Randy did say he could continue as I would figure he didnt want to lose the belt like when he fought Vitor Belfort.(the eye injury).

Chuck koed Randy and he is the new lightheavyweight champion of the UFC.

Hey numbnuts that clip your showing isn't even when Randy got scraped. They weren't up against the fence it was in the middle of the octagon and it was a pinkie. Looks to me like your trying to create a controversy how about you let it go Chuck is the champ, he would have been champ a long time ago if Tito didn't dodge him. Randy is an excellent fighter but he doesn't have the striking skills to stand with Chuck. I'm a huge Liddell fan but I knew if it went to the ground that it was a good possibility he would lose. So quit *****ing about Chucks lack of grappling or wrestling skills who cares that's why it's a Mixed event because he doesn't have to fight on the ground to win. When you have knockout power like his why would you care about ground fighting, what because he fights to his strenghths that makes him less of a fighter? Give it up dude, anyone who would think that Chuck would want to win by that kind of tactic knows nothing of the man or frankly the sport.

On a lighter note how about the best line of the evening, when Randy was coming into the arena and the announcers were talking about how conditioned he looked. One of them said " he's got a six pack on his face" I thought that was classic.

Nobody said Chuck didnt knock any of these fighter out, did you even read the thread. The FACT is that he has poked his last 3 opponents in the eye. Deal with it. As far as I'm concerned he earned his belt, I think he's a good fighter, and has a good fighting attitude, other than that, I think he's a ****in scumbag....

Curly and Cesaro are right. When I first saw the gif on another forum, it had the words"thumb away from eye". I did see the left hand "scrape" and as I watched closer, right before that scrape, I figured that the left thumb could have gouged the right eye but I dont know. Now seeing it even more, I see the right hand as well as the left hand like Cesaro posted. You guys are good!

But Randy did say he could continue as I would figure he didnt want to lose the belt like when he fought Vitor Belfort.(the eye injury).

Chuck koed Randy and he is the new lightheavyweight champion of the UFC.As best I can see it just looks like Chuck's either punching or pushing Couture's head away to counter Chuck's attempts at controlling his head and upper torso; nothing conclusive to cause me to say it's premeditated though it may be a function of Liddell's bad habit.

Just can't tell. Oh well, **** it. Maybe something will come out later. Maybe Randy will voice his opinion or something.

Here ya go Cesaro, Curly and all you other whining ******* http://www.platuglen.dk/Barn1/crying.gif cry me a river.......

Wow, name calling. I can see discussing MMA with you is going to be enlightening. I look forward to more witty retorts in the near future.

Hey numbnuts that clip your showing isn't even when Randy got scraped. They weren't up against the fence it was in the middle of the octagon and it was a pinkie. Looks to me like your trying to create a controversy how about you let it go Chuck is the champ, he would have been champ a long time ago if Tito didn't dodge him. Randy is an excellent fighter but he doesn't have the striking skills to stand with Chuck. I'm a huge Liddell fan but I knew if it went to the ground that it was a good possibility he would lose. So quit *****ing about Chucks lack of grappling or wrestling skills


I don''t even know where to begin telling you what's wrong with this statment, fan boy. So I'll just chalk it up to that you're an uneducated new fan and leave it at that.

How am I creating contoversy by showing a clip from the fight?

Wow, name calling. I can see discussing MMA with you is going to be enlightening. I look forward to more witty retorts in the near future.Lots of these guys don't realize that's bull**** and I didn't help either.

Hey Curly, I popped over to another forum and they don't seem to have the impression of the fouling with Chuck; maybe I missed it or something.

Wait, did someone post some links here concerning it?

Nobody said Chuck didnt knock any of these fighter out, did you even read the thread. The FACT is that he has poked his last 3 opponents in the eye. Deal with it. As far as I'm concerned he earned his belt, I think he's a good fighter, and has a good fighting attitude, other than that, I think he's a ****in scumbag....

Exactly, ****in new nut hugging fans. Trying to discuss the fact that Chuck has thumbed his last 3 opponents. No one said he couldn't wrestle or his ass looked fat in those shorts. We were just pointing out the obvious. If this subject makes you angry and defensive then why not go back to $herdog?

All I will say is that some of these Chuck nuthuggers (no offense to anybody here, though) are ****ing hypocrites. When Chuck pokes Randy in the eye and somebody calls that out, the common response is "Quit making excuses." But when Rampage beats the living **** out of Chuck and makes him squeal like a stuck pig before Hackelman throws in the towel, these same Chuck nuthuggers scream "Chuck was injured before the fight!"

Anyway, Chuck shouldn't be calling out Silva. He needs to beat Rampage first. Yeah, that's right. RAMPAGE. The number two guy in the 205-pound division.

I was happy when Rampage laid that beating on Chuck. What was that noise he made at the end?

That was his spirit being broken

All I will say is that some of these Chuck nuthuggers (no offense to anybody here, though) are ****ing hypocrites. When Chuck pokes Randy in the eye and somebody calls that out, the common response is "Quit making excuses." But when Rampage beats the living **** out of Chuck and makes him squeal like a stuck pig before Hackelman throws in the towel, these same Chuck nuthuggers scream "Chuck was injured before the fight!"

Anyway, Chuck shouldn't be calling out Silva. He needs to beat Rampage first. Yeah, that's right. RAMPAGE. The number two guy in the 205-pound division.

I agree, and there is no good reason to make a huge deal about it anyway, All I have to say say is Chuck should keep a tighter fist if he's gonna continue to be that careless with his fingers.

Nah that fist that he caved in Randy's jaw with was tight enough.

Excellent reply, I mean, wow, way to avoid the subject!

Nah that fist that he caved in Randy's jaw with was tight enough.

What? I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you with all of Chucks pubic hair blocking your airway.

Right before the highlighted scrape he turns his hand to the side and rakes it across his eye too.
Actually it looks like he is trying to secure a double collar clinch on Radny. He sticks both his hands out and tries to reach around his head. Thats what I see.

Thats what I see.

I wonder what Randy saw? I'd guess Chuck's thumbs in his eyes.

Actually it looks like he is trying to secure a double collar clinch on Radny. He sticks both his hands out and tries to reach around his head. Thats what I see.

Well, he's lucky he clawed his eye instead of securing the clinch or else Randy would have got the take down.

It's not like it matters anyhow, if Chuck had walked out and laid a clean uppercut knocking Randy cold you would find some way to say that he cheated. All that matters is who is wearing the belt.....

It's not like it matters anyhow, if Chuck had walked out and laid a clean uppercut knocking Randy cold you would find some way to say that he cheated. All that matters is who is wearing the belt.....

If your referring to me, Don't be stupid! You don't know me, and you don't know what I'd say. I already mentioned that his clawing technique didn't work against Randy because Randy got a time out. But then again, Getting hit in the eye always effects you to some degree.

It's not like it matters anyhow, if Chuck had walked out and laid a clean uppercut knocking Randy cold you would find some way to say that he cheated. All that matters is who is wearing the belt.....

You just go thru and read what you want huh? Most people have said it was a clean KO. Most people have said that he deserved the belt. But you keep ignoring the fact that he's poked his last 3 opponents in the eye. Thats the topic, the eye poking, you have any defence for it? Can you deny it with proof? No, you cant.....

Chuck "The Claw" Liddell

Chuck should switch to Hackneys white Tiger Kempo Karate stance, it would be appropriate.

from www.mmaweekly.com :

Maybe now we can all move on. Randy Couture told MMAWeekly Radio,"The thumb was no factor..." Couture talking about an accidental foul that occured during the clinch between Chuck Liddell and himself at the main event of UFC 52 Saturday Night.

Couture said that Liddell was the better fighter that night and that he had plenty of time to recover and was fine. There were also plenty of other things Couture talked about with hosts Ryan Bennett and Frank Trigg on Wednesday mornings show....

The thread ends here, I guess.

I got a thumb in my eye one time and it didn't see right for 2-3 days. But if he says it wasn't a factor than that is that.

But he did get thumbed in the eye. The third fighter in a row.....

True. The thread shall continue...

My request to Zuffa for allowing future Lidell opponents to wear goggles stands.

I second that....

Do you think if you took both your thumbs and pressed them into someones eyeballs as hard as you could and tried to crush their eyes or pop them out of their head that the person you did that to would die or just be blind?

i think about doing that to my math teacher all the time.

I always wondered what would happen if you popped someones eye out, then made it look at there other eye....

I always wondered what would happen if you popped someones eye out, then made it look at there other eye....

Thats probably what Chuck thinks.

Just joking.

this is definately one of the best threads ive read in a long time.

this is definately one of the best threads ive read in a long time.

You must be referring to some of the posts on my ignore list ...






No, that couldn't be it.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Chuck is the man!!!! Now all the haters have to choke on the fact that he has the best record in the UFC EVA!!!!

EVA!!!!!!!

I garuntee he did that **** on purpose.

I also garuntee that I don't give a ****.

I guarantee that your sorry ass didn't even finish the 8th grade. Illiterate son of a *****.

ouch... good one.

ouch... good one.

Yeah. He never saw it coming.

Touche ___