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INFAMOUZ
11-27-2004, 10:03 PM
Tszyu, Gatti, Corrales?

Tszyu gets inside and beats Floyd like he has never felt before. He uses his strength, skill, and punching power to stop Floyd late.

Gatti will depend on what plan McGirt makes and if Gatti can follow it. Floyd is faster and smoother, but Gatti has such power there. My heart says Gatti by late round TKO. I'm going with that

Corrales still has things to prove at lightweight. If he can make the wieght long enough, he can unify the title there before moving up. All the guys there want money and he will bring it. I think the only fight that he won't win easily if at all is against Castillo.

jack_the_rippuh
11-27-2004, 10:16 PM
I think Mayweather beats all three of them. He's more talented all around then any of these guys...
Those opponents you listed just have better individual attributes than Mayweather, but all around he's more talented.
I say he beats Tszyu by boxing circles around him, avoiding the deadly right by moving towards that direction and keeping a jab in his face, also counter-punching well off his jab, and making him miss it 85% of the times..Mayweather by UD

Just like someone said in another thread, Gatti is too one-dimensional for Floyd, true he has heart, but it can only take him so far. I don't think Floyd can stop him, but I do think that Floyd will beat him so badly, that it will erase all doubt in everyone's mind as to who the superior fighter is.

Corrales has to go in there with a completely different gameplan if he hopes to defeat Mayweather this time around, but I just don't see the possibility. I think Floyd can beat him again just as bad, if not worse..

The Fix
11-27-2004, 11:08 PM
mayweahter wins all of them. the i see giving him the most trouble is gatti because gatti seems a lot bigger

jayschre
11-28-2004, 03:28 AM
Floyd IMO would tko Gatti by a cut stoppage late,
Floyd is still in Diego's head after their first fight,

But I don't see him beating Tszyu, Kostya is so much more powerful at the weight and people seem to overlook his power punching accuracy he lands hard clean shots an Floyd sleeps tight midway through.

moochi
11-28-2004, 05:26 AM
mayweather easily beating the two on points except of course for kosta tszyu...

kosta is too powerful and cunning....i could see kosta winning either by a late round tko, or a ud with a coupl knockdowns...

Michael_Selway
11-28-2004, 08:25 AM
mayweather easily beating the two on points except of course for kosta tszyu...

kosta is too powerful and cunning....i could see kosta winning either by a late round tko, or a ud with a coupl knockdowns...

tszyu by KO

wissy
11-28-2004, 08:27 AM
He beats Corrales by a comfortable UD the 2nd time round. And he would do the same to Gatti as long as he can handle the power, something we don't know yet. Against Tszyu i see him dropping a close but definitive UD with a few knockdowns for Tszyu. You don't just jump 2 divisions, fight the best and win. I mean floyd looks good when he was at 130 and 135 but 140 is where the big fish are.

MetalVomit
11-28-2004, 10:16 AM
mayweather easily beating the two on points except of course for kosta tszyu...

kosta is too powerful and cunning....i could see kosta winning either by a late round tko, or a ud with a coupl knockdowns...


i think Floyd could KO both Chico and Gatti, but Kostya would be too much at that weight for him, he is so accurate and Floyd can only duck and roll so much, Kostya WILL get in there and put Floyd down and out. I would love to see them fight.

Mikie
11-28-2004, 11:21 AM
I believe Mayweather will take care of Corrales and Gatti both. Tszyu is a different type of monster. If Floyd can stay from the power of Tszyu he can do enough to get a decision. If not good night pretty boy.

acquitted
11-28-2004, 01:59 PM
ppl forget how ****y gotti looks when he fights top guys...if ivan robinson beat gotti easily..i dont see mayweather loseing...i dont even think gotti can beat corley

Boxerdog
11-28-2004, 03:16 PM
I give Zu the puncher's chance but Mayweather is a cut above these guys.

Kimmy
11-28-2004, 08:15 PM
I agree, Mayweather is the best in the division. Tsysu did beat Sharmba Mittchell but its still 3 rds of action in 2 yrs. I think mayweather wins UD, Tsyzu too old and over the 12 rds he`ll be out worked!

tri4ben2
11-28-2004, 08:21 PM
Mayweather is trying to be more exciting recently. If he just made Tszyu miss all night and pot shot him to a 120-108 decision, how exciting would that be?

I give Tszyu a chance because I think that when they trade, Tsyzu has the advantage. I have seen Tsyue take out slicker guys than mayweather.

Deejay
11-28-2004, 08:46 PM
I agree, Mayweather is the best in the division. Tsysu did beat Sharmba Mittchell but its still 3 rds of action in 2 yrs. I think mayweather wins UD, Tsyzu too old and over the 12 rds he`ll be out worked!

You must be joking right? Mayweather the best in the division after one, I repeat one, fight at 140 albeit to Corley. Have you been watching boxing for the past 7 years? Tszyu has taken on all and beaten all in this division, and until proven otherwise should be and IS recognised as THE MAN at 140.

To say mayweather is the best at 140 would be like saying that RJJ was better than Lewis at heavyweight just because he beat Ruiz. Get my drift?

I'd love to see this fight happen although the network's bs won't let it. I think it'd be a competitive fight with Tszyu coming out on top but my main point is that PBF should not be called the best in the division after only one fight against only reasonable opposition.

DLT
11-29-2004, 12:35 AM
You must be joking right? Mayweather the best in the division after one, I repeat one, fight at 140 albeit to Corley. Have you been watching boxing for the past 7 years? Tszyu has taken on all and beaten all in this division, and until proven otherwise should be and IS recognised as THE MAN at 140.

To say mayweather is the best at 140 would be like saying that RJJ was better than Lewis at heavyweight just because he beat Ruiz. Get my drift?

I'd love to see this fight happen although the network's bs won't let it. I think it'd be a competitive fight with Tszyu coming out on top but my main point is that PBF should not be called the best in the division after only one fight against only reasonable opposition.
All that maybe true but none of the fighters he beat were great fighters. Name one of the people Zoo beat that you think wouldve beat Floyd. The best guy he beat was Mitchell and everyone was sweating him for what? For beating Tackie, Phillips, and N'Dou. Judah is so eratic. One fight he looks good and the next he's in a close fight with a bum. Meanwhile Floyd was fighting Chop, Castillo twice, Corrales, Chaves, Sosa, N'Dou, Carlos Hernandez, Manfredy, Vargas, Jukko, Augustus, and The legendary Hernandez. My point is you cant say Zoo is #1 when he was fighting inferior competion, and Floyd was at a lower weight but was fighting the far better competion. You take the overated Mitchell and Judah away and this guy has fought more bums than Hopkins

ko_king
11-29-2004, 04:03 AM
Mayweahter walks through both Gatti and Corrales. I do think that he wold have to fight pretty well to beat Kostya. He is stronger than anyone Floyd has fought. I do think that Floyd would be to elusive for Kostya and beat him UD.

tony
11-29-2004, 09:26 AM
I see Mayweather beating all of them with Tzsyu making the strongest argument against him. I'd like to see Mayweather V. Corrales II though, just so Diego could give a better account of himself than the first time out.

Cletus Funk
11-29-2004, 09:39 AM
Mayweahter walks through both Gatti and Corrales. I do think that he wold have to fight pretty well to beat Kostya. He is stronger than anyone Floyd has fought. I do think that Floyd would be to elusive for Kostya and beat him UD.

PBF's been tagged by less skilled fighters than KT and I'll look forward to seeing his face when that first big shot lands if the fight ever happens. I don't think he can stay away from him for 12 rounds so I'd have to go for KT with a mid to late stoppage.

DLT
11-29-2004, 10:25 AM
PBF's been tagged by less skilled fighters than KT and I'll look forward to seeing his face when that first big shot lands if the fight ever happens. I don't think he can stay away from him for 12 rounds so I'd have to go for KT with a mid to late stoppage.
Zoo has been tagged by less skilled fighters than Floyd. Who has Floyd been tagged by besides a left hand Corley. He never takes much punishment. The only time you hit Floyd is when he let's you and he's picking the shot's with his arms and gloves and rolling on the shots.

Cletus Funk
11-29-2004, 11:50 AM
Zoo has been tagged by less skilled fighters than Floyd. Who has Floyd been tagged by besides a left hand Corley. He never takes much punishment. The only time you hit Floyd is when he let's you and he's picking the shot's with his arms and gloves and rolling on the shots.

Of course he's going to be able to hit Tszyu but we don't know if he brings any real power up with him. Are you saying that the only person to ever land a clean shot on him was Corley? KT would get to him at some point no matter how good he is. I'm pretty sure he's never been hit has hard as KT would hit him so we don't know if he could take it or not.

DLT
11-29-2004, 01:13 PM
Of course he's going to be able to hit Tszyu but we don't know if he brings any real power up with him. Are you saying that the only person to ever land a clean shot on him was Corley? KT would get to him at some point no matter how good he is. I'm pretty sure he's never been hit has hard as KT would hit him so we don't know if he could take it or not.
You act like your trying to make this a power match up. Floyd can do so many more things. People are getting to carried away over the Mitchell fight. Zoo hasnt knocked out everyone and he does better against south paws then right handers. He didnt hurt Tackie, he didnt hurt or look good against Urkal, and he didnt hurt or look good against Leja. Floyd doesnt have tremendous power, but he has enough to sting you. He's been hit by big punchers like Castillo, N'Dou, Sosa, Manfredy and pound for pound Zoo doesnt hit harder then Chico, and he faught Chico at 130 and Chico came in the ring at 147. And how many times have you seen clean shots landed on him and if they did how well did he take the punch

Deejay
11-29-2004, 08:52 PM
You act like your trying to make this a power match up. Floyd can do so many more things. People are getting to carried away over the Mitchell fight. Zoo hasnt knocked out everyone and he does better against south paws then right handers. He didnt hurt Tackie, he didnt hurt or look good against Urkal, and he didnt hurt or look good against Leja. Floyd doesnt have tremendous power, but he has enough to sting you. He's been hit by big punchers like Castillo, N'Dou, Sosa, Manfredy and pound for pound Zoo doesnt hit harder then Chico, and he faught Chico at 130 and Chico came in the ring at 147. And how many times have you seen clean shots landed on him and if they did how well did he take the punch

I love it when people like you downplay Tszyu's achievements. I guess some people will never like him no matter what he does. Well I hope this fight goes ahead sometime so he can prove himself to be the best AGAIN!!

By the way Judah was supposed to be the "next" Pernell Whittaker with power until Tszyu crushed him & Mitchell was the Number 2 ranked 140pounder in the world when Tszyu fought him.

Also, Floyd is one of my favourite fighters so It's not like I have anything against him, it's just at 140 I think Tszyu would be too much for him.

DLT
11-30-2004, 12:23 AM
I love it when people like you downplay Tszyu's achievements. I guess some people will never like him no matter what he does. Well I hope this fight goes ahead sometime so he can prove himself to be the best AGAIN!!

By the way Judah was supposed to be the "next" Pernell Whittaker with power until Tszyu crushed him & Mitchell was the Number 2 ranked 140pounder in the world when Tszyu fought him.

Also, Floyd is one of my favourite fighters so It's not like I have anything against him, it's just at 140 I think Tszyu would be too much for him.
I am also a big Zoo fan and I thought that you were trying to downplay Floyd's win over Corley. Chop had only recently lost to Judah. No harm in that. Zoo has beaten everyone in the division, but that was in the past. The division is new now. Zoo hasnt faced any of the top fighters in the division now except for Mitchell and he was from the old 140. Like I said, I still like Zoo and would pick him against everyone in the division except for Floyd

Deejay
11-30-2004, 01:06 AM
Okay, cool. Each is entitled to their opinion and I can respect that.

Cletus Funk
11-30-2004, 08:08 AM
You act like your trying to make this a power match up. Floyd can do so many more things. People are getting to carried away over the Mitchell fight. Zoo hasnt knocked out everyone and he does better against south paws then right handers. He didnt hurt Tackie, he didnt hurt or look good against Urkal, and he didnt hurt or look good against Leja. Floyd doesnt have tremendous power, but he has enough to sting you. He's been hit by big punchers like Castillo, N'Dou, Sosa, Manfredy and pound for pound Zoo doesnt hit harder then Chico, and he faught Chico at 130 and Chico came in the ring at 147. And how many times have you seen clean shots landed on him and if they did how well did he take the punch

You're right in some of what you say, but there are questions to be answered by Floyd at 140. It's wrong to put him at the top of the pile based on one fight at the weight, especially one in which he got shaken by a guy with less power than most of the top guys in the division. Chico may have come in at 147 but KT goes in at 155-160 as do most of the real 140'ers so I think there would definitely be a step up in power for him to deal with. I've never said he won't be able to, I'm just not convinced that he will. He also needs to bring enough power up with him to stop the top guys just walking through his shots to get to him which would definitely have an impact on the effectiveness of the defensive skills that you think will make him prevail.

P@pasmurf
11-30-2004, 12:31 PM
Mayweather beats everyone except tszyu.

Tyson'scolon
11-30-2004, 01:17 PM
I agree that Mayweather beats everyone but Tzsyu. However I think a fight with Gatti would be hell on wheels until it ended. i would love to see all three of those fights! I hope at least one of them gets made in '05

DLT
11-30-2004, 02:41 PM
You're right in some of what you say, but there are questions to be answered by Floyd at 140. It's wrong to put him at the top of the pile based on one fight at the weight, especially one in which he got shaken by a guy with less power than most of the top guys in the division. Chico may have come in at 147 but KT goes in at 155-160 as do most of the real 140'ers so I think there would definitely be a step up in power for him to deal with. I've never said he won't be able to, I'm just not convinced that he will. He also needs to bring enough power up with him to stop the top guys just walking through his shots to get to him which would definitely have an impact on the effectiveness of the defensive skills that you think will make him prevail.
I know what Zoo weigh's, my point is that it's pretty much the same if not less than what Corrales weighed compared to Floyd at 130. You are also still talking about power. Floyd has tremendous speed. Speed is power. What makes you assume that these guys will just walk through Floyd's punches. I think he has more power than you think but even if he didnt your still not going to be abel to just walk through him. If that was the case how come people didnt walk through Sweet Pea's punches, or Ali's punches, or even Chris Byrd's punches. Who do you know that is #for# more stonger and powerful than Mayorga? A littile light punching wimp like Corey Spinks cant keep Mayorga off of him right. Wrong. All those guys have great hand speed and great defense just like Floyd. I dont mind people saying that Zoo will win. I dont even mind people saying that Zoo will win by KO, but if you think that Zoo will just walk through Floyd than your crazy. Floyd wins this fight.

`STEELHEAD
11-30-2004, 03:29 PM
Tszyu, Gatti, Corrales?

Tszyu gets inside and beats Floyd like he has never felt before. He uses his strength, skill, and punching power to stop Floyd late.

Gatti will depend on what plan McGirt makes and if Gatti can follow it. Floyd is faster and smoother, but Gatti has such power there. My heart says Gatti by late round TKO. I'm going with that

Corrales still has things to prove at lightweight. If he can make the wieght long enough, he can unify the title there before moving up. All the guys there want money and he will bring it. I think the only fight that he won't win easily if at all is against Castillo.



thanks for not jumping on the pbf bandwagon. he's definitely not proven at 147 but he does look pretty at the lower weights. and i don't use the floyd/diego fight as a measuring stick like so mant porcupine heads do.. corrales wasnt mentally or physically fit knowing he was going to jail for an undetermined amount of time.anyone faceing hardtime knows what a bummer it is.it effects you on your job and at home...an all encompessing depressing feelling. bring on a mayweather/corrales rematch at 140 and i see goosen corrales getting sweet sweet revenge.
i would like to see gatti beat the **** out of him.it would be a wonderfully bloody fight.
tszu would be able to obsorbe floyds soft hands and hopefully crack some ribs,break his jaw and detach a retina. ;)

plexmc
11-30-2004, 04:36 PM
Mayweather is trying to be more exciting recently. If he just made Tszyu miss all night and pot shot him to a 120-108 decision, how exciting would that be?

I give Tszyu a chance because I think that when they trade, Tsyzu has the advantage. I have seen Tsyue take out slicker guys than mayweather.

slicker then mayweather? When did zu fight sweet pea? No one is slicker the flyod

DLT
12-01-2004, 12:03 AM
thanks for not jumping on the pbf bandwagon. he's definitely not proven at 147 but he does look pretty at the lower weights. and i don't use the floyd/diego fight as a measuring stick like so mant porcupine heads do.. corrales wasnt mentally or physically fit knowing he was going to jail for an undetermined amount of time.anyone faceing hardtime knows what a bummer it is.it effects you on your job and at home...an all encompessing depressing feelling. bring on a mayweather/corrales rematch at 140 and i see goosen corrales getting sweet sweet revenge.
i would like to see gatti beat the **** out of him.it would be a wonderfully bloody fight.
tszu would be able to obsorbe floyds soft hands and hopefully crack some ribs,break his jaw and detach a retina. ;)
It's obvious that you just dont like Floyd. What makes you think that Chico has any chance against Floyd? He was getting a boxing lesson from Frietas until the late rounds. Floyd is ten times a better boxer than Frietas

QueenCity
12-01-2004, 12:19 AM
VS Tszyu-- Floyd beats him to the punch for a while, by Tyzyu eventuly scores a knock out

VS Gatti-- Arturo get completly outclassed

VS Corrales-- A coin flip in my mind, I'm high on Corrales right now. This time areound he wouldn't fight Mayweather's fight, like he did the 1st time.

DLT
12-01-2004, 12:52 AM
VS Tszyu-- Floyd beats him to the punch for a while, by Tyzyu eventuly scores a knock out

VS Gatti-- Arturo get completly outclassed

VS Corrales-- A coin flip in my mind, I'm high on Corrales right now. This time areound he wouldn't fight Mayweather's fight, like he did the 1st time.
Chico was fighting Floyd's fight against both Frietas and Cassamora. He hasnt changed that much. I like Chico against almost anyone but Floyd is just a bad style for him that he will never come close to beating

psychopath
12-01-2004, 04:42 AM
I think Floyd can make it past all those three . . .he is simply agile and well rounded that he'll solve to neutralize KTs power.