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Titing Kabayo 12-04-2009, 03:09 AM Sige nga tingnan natin kung sino ang malakas na presidentiable para sa mga Pinoy ng Boxingscene..
A short glance at the candidates...
Gilbert Teodoro - di ko masyado kilala to at bigla nalang lumitaw pangalan..
Benigno "Noynoy" Aquino Jr - tingin ko naudyukan lang to ng maga tao nong namatay si dating pangulong Cory...
Manuel "Manny" Villar - tingin ko ito may ibubuga at mukhang malakas sa mga OFW (yon kung di dayain ang absentee voters).
Richard "Dick" Gordon - tingin ko sa Luzon lang sya patok, lalo na sa Northern Tagalog Region..
Joseph 'Erap" Estrada - alam naman natin, pampagulo lang :D
Eddie Villanueva - wala akong sampalataya rito..
yon lang alam ko... ewan ko yong iba...
Chadmack 12-04-2009, 05:09 PM nung una, i was inclined ke Villar. but then, knowing how brilliant Gibo Teodoro is especially with the debates and of course the ondoy-pepeng incidents where he actively is visible with his role. but when the maguindanao massacre took place and his initial press con is to kick the ampatuans out of their political party, that turned me off and inclined on villar again.
but then surprisingly, Gordon-Fernando tandem came into the picture. 2 results-oriented guys, 2 action man who gets in ground zero and do their stuffs. some say that they are dictators but that's just what the country needs right now, someone with firm hands. isa pa, tong dalawang to galit sa tamad :D but really, you have to hear Gordon's mission-vision in order to appreciate him more. he believes the turnaround for the philippines would take at least 20years to be a 1st world country, and he is pushing for continuoum of the vision and is hoping to lead the way to that progress. ok enough, alam ko me ibang ayaw dito ke Gordon, hehehe. ang mahalaga lang is to evaluate intelligently kung sino iboto so to each his own :D
Bogler 12-04-2009, 05:25 PM nung una, i was inclined ke Villar. but then, knowing how brilliant Gibo Teodoro is especially with the debates and of course the ondoy-pepeng incidents where he actively is visible with his role. but when the maguindanao massacre took place and his initial press con is to kick the ampatuans out of their political party, that turned me off and inclined on villar again.
but then surprisingly, Gordon-Fernando tandem came into the picture. 2 results-oriented guys, 2 action man who gets in ground zero and do their stuffs. some say that they are dictators but that's just what the country needs right now, someone with firm hands. isa pa, tong dalawang to galit sa tamad :D but really, you have to hear Gordon's mission-vision in order to appreciate him more. he believes the turnaround for the philippines would take at least 20years to be a 1st world country, and he is pushing for continuoum of the vision and is hoping to lead the way to that progress. ok enough, alam ko me ibang ayaw dito ke Gordon, hehehe. ang mahalaga lang is to evaluate intelligently kung sino iboto so to each his own :D
preng chad tanong lang, bat ka na-TO nung sinipa ni teodoro mga ampatuans sa party nila. yung mga nabasa kong ibang news eh sangayon sila at nagustuhan ginawa nya. tanong lang to, ala naman akong alam dyan masyado kay teodoro e hehe.
si fernando bang sinasabi mo eh si Bayani? VP na lang ba takbo nya ngayon kay Gordon, kala ko presidentiable sya.
Chadmack 12-04-2009, 05:32 PM preng chad tanong lang, bat ka na-TO nung sinipa ni teodoro mga ampatuans sa party nila. yung mga nabasa kong ibang news eh sangayon sila at nagustuhan ginawa nya. tanong lang to, ala naman akong alam dyan masyado kay teodoro e hehe.
si fernando bang sinasabi mo eh si Bayani? VP na lang ba takbo nya ngayon kay Gordon, kala ko presidentiable sya.
He should have pushed for their arrest first, then kick them out of the party later. problema kasi nun, walang umaksyon agad di ba? i dunno, somehow it gives me the impression na mapulitika sya masyado and they are saving face lang kaya yun ang gusto nyang ikick out sa party nila.... Basta, mapulitika + matalino is parang Gloria din. Now i dont want another Gloria for the country :(
oo si bayani eh as VP na lang, according to him, he was sold nung nagkausap sila ni Gordon. sabi ni Gordon that he will do great things as DPWH, Gordon will invite investors in the country while Bayani will build highways near these establishments outside the metro including plans for housing para daw madecongest ang manila and iflourish yung other cities outside metro manila. saka bilib ako sa nagawa nila sa Subic and Marikina, it shows you how good as a leader they are. nde lang sila nagpatayo ng stadiums, roads, etc. they also imposed discipline :D
Bogler 12-04-2009, 05:57 PM He should have pushed for their arrest first, then kick them out of the party later. problema kasi nun, walang umaksyon agad di ba? i dunno, somehow it gives me the impression na mapulitika sya masyado and they are saving face lang kaya yun ang gusto nyang ikick out sa party nila.... Basta, mapulitika + matalino is parang Gloria din. Now i dont want another Gloria for the country :(
oo si bayani eh as VP na lang, according to him, he was sold nung nagkausap sila ni Gordon. sabi ni Gordon that he will do great things as DPWH, Gordon will invite investors in the country while Bayani will build highways near these establishments outside the metro including plans for housing para daw madecongest ang manila and iflourish yung other cities outside metro manila. saka bilib ako sa nagawa nila sa Subic and Marikina, it shows you how good as a leader they are. nde lang sila nagpatayo ng stadiums, roads, etc. they also imposed discipline :D
ah i gotcha, u have a point. election weather ngayon so medyo pulitika nga dating nun. kapartido nila ni gloria so imposibleng wala silang alam sa mga kagaguhan nun hehe.
ah so VP na lang pala si BF. oks lang, magaling sya, bilib ako sa kanya tiga marikina ako dati at matindi ginawa nya dun. kaya nga lang baka nga di sya manalong presidente kasi dapat mapolitika ka at madiplomasya eh, eh medyo firm talaga yang si BF eh kaya nababalitaan ko marami minsan nakakabanga yan sa gobyerno pag may mga iniimplement syang mga bagay bagay na kakaiba pero nakakatulong. pero tama ka result-oriented naman! iboboto ko yan kung anjan ako!
Chadmack 12-04-2009, 06:08 PM i would like to hear prof kadyo's take on this and those in visayas mindanao region though, i hope they could give us insights.
alexpz 12-04-2009, 08:06 PM For sure I've got bayani for VP. win or lose bayani talaga ako.
As for the President I'm still thinking between Gordon, Teodoro and Aquino at baka si Villar pero question mark talaga ako kay Villar.
Muni2x muna ako.. lolz.
realinsanepinoy 12-04-2009, 08:25 PM IMHO the election would boil down to Villar because of his money, Teodoro because of his party's machinery and Aquino because of his parent's popularity. Personally i like to take my chances on Aquino as i would think that he will try to protect his parents legacy. But Teodoro has a really big chance of bagging the presidency and its because of Puno. Puno who made Ramos, Estrada, Arroyo win, and one of the big reason why most LGU executive supports Teodoro even though his behind in the ratings right now.
realinsanepinoy 12-04-2009, 08:30 PM For sure I've got bayani for VP. win or lose bayani talaga ako.
As for the President I'm still thinking between Gordon, Teodoro and Aquino at baka si Villar pero question mark talaga ako kay Villar.
Muni2x muna ako.. lolz.
I had this perception that Bayani is hated in Luzon, i must have heard wrong. But as far as i know Bayani has no chance of winning even after touring the country campaigning a year ago he just lacks charisma and people have the notion that with all the money MMDA have he cant still solve Manila's Traffic. Although if it was his wife who is running then i would definitely vote for her. My personal choice would be Binay.
.Sakuragi. 12-04-2009, 08:39 PM Kung pwede akong mag vote si Noy-Noy or Gordon ako.
.UncleSam 12-04-2009, 08:42 PM noynoy ako definitely.. least corrupt ang kailangan natin..
Titing Kabayo 12-04-2009, 10:29 PM Bilang Bisaya, I had Roxas originally and little disappointed nong bumaba sya at inbinigay ang chance kay Noynoy... My vote will go to Villar.. proven intelligence on how to run his own business...
Mas maganda na yong iboto mo e may pera na para kahit papano least corruption na.. Si noynoy mlaksa pero wala akong tiwala sa kakayahan nya.. gordon is smart but mejo mahina appeal sa public...
CoLd_WaVE 12-06-2009, 02:14 PM Manny Villar nuff said!
Rorschach™ 12-06-2009, 03:08 PM 1. Noynoy
2. Gibo
3. Gordon
PrtyBoyDlicious 12-06-2009, 04:53 PM I'll be realistic......Noynoy - Roxas...
Sigurado hinde magnanakaw sa kaban ng bayan 'tong dalawang 'to, sa ngayon yan ang number one na batayan ko kung sino ang iboboto.
Villar - CORRUPT, tuta ni Willie Revillame
Teodoro - Tuta at kapartido ni Gloria, san ba kukuha 'tong mga 'to ng campaign funds? eh da si government coffers!
Gordon - walang vision, sold out sa Amerikano.
PrtyBoyDlicious 12-06-2009, 05:00 PM noynoy ako definitely.. least corrupt ang kailangan natin..
Mag donate ka sa partido ni Noynoy tutal $55/hr naman swldo mo dyan sa Houston.. :D
Akinapepemo 12-06-2009, 05:51 PM Noynoy
+ legacy ng parents. he won't risk ruining their legacy
+ popularity might equate to a candidate not beholden to traditional politics.
+ strong survey showing.
- he is neither Cory nor Ninoy.
- Despite his popularity, he has resorted to pandering with the trapos.
- plataporma---- ????
Villar
+ very good legislator. Has one of the best attendance records in the senate. that is taxmoney well spent.
+ self-made Billionaire. This is better than being born with a silver spoon in one's mouth.
+ Well organized party in NP. (and with Loren, a big warchest in Cojuangco's NPC)
- Political butterfly (balimbing). Was under Estrada's coalition as a Congressman. Jumped ship at the last moment. Ran under GMA's coalition as a Senator. jumped ship again and sought Estrada's blessing in the senate. Allied self with (GMA)administration senators when he became Senate president.
- Business acumen may be overrated. He may have made himself a good businessman, but the bulk of his riches came to be after marrying into a wealthy family.
- Loren as running-mate may help him in the surveys but it speaks something about his judgment. Loren has stabbed Villar twice. First was during his ouster as senate pres, second was his attempted impeachment for the C5 scandal.
Gordon
+ Proven in SBMA. The Presidency is an executive office, hence it calls for a candidate with previous executive experience.
+ has taken on issues which are of great importance but are not controversial enough, therefore ignored by most grandstanders.
+ masipag.
- No strong political party. Campaigning on a national level needs a lot of money. Gordon will be deeply beholden to his financial backers.
Estrada
+ Prior experience.
+ Popular mass base. this is crucial, since popular support enables a candidate to get away with 'unpopular but necessary' decisions.
- Prior experience. even if his term was short lived, the remaining years in his presidency would have been more of the same.
- Eligibility. Common knowledge of the Constitution dictates that whenever the Constitution does not offer specific details on its contents, the statements should be taken as it is. Hence, re-election is re-election in all possible aspects, incumbent or not. However Estrada's popularity and battery of lawyers will ensure an argument in his favor.
Villanueva
+ Values. Vision.
+ Decent machinery ( Party list, check. media, check. solid followers, check )
- Separation of church and state.
- misrepresentation of the Party-list system. CIBAC is not a marginalized sector.
- Experience
- The Philippines is a mix of various religions.
Gibo Teodoro
+ Intelligence
+ Executive experience in DND.
+ Wields respect from the armed forces. this is crucial if one does not want to see reruns of Honasan, Trillanes, Lim.
+ Puno. The kingmaker. ask Mirriam Defensor Santiago why.
+ Lakas-Kampi CMD. Although crumbling, is still the biggest party.
- Unkown amongst voters. Philippine politics = popularity.
- Lakas-Kampi CMD. affiliation with this party is a kiss of death. A number of VP picks declined due to this.
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Importante sa akin:
+ Wala dapat utang na loob, kundi sa voters lang.
+ Di takot sa simbahan. Catholic ako, pero naniniwala ako sa separation of church and state.
+ Political will. Puro takot kasi mawalan ng boto. strong will, pero hindi 'strongman' kasi nobody is good/smart enough to be given absolute power.
+ Vision. Di pwede mabait lang. Dapat may solid plan. Cory restored democratic institutions, Ramos solved (kaso sobrang mahal) the Energy problem and stabilized the military, Nagpa-macho si Estrada, and GMA strengthened the economic institutions (not the economy itself)
Kailangan natin infrastructure para conducive sa business, para may trabaho. Masyadong short sighted at self-serving ang culture of mendicancy practiced by GMA and Erap. At mas shortsighted naman kung gusto lang ng Pinoy e mabait lang, kulang yun.
Anghaba ng post, hehe. as for your question, wala akong gusto sa kanila, passing sana si Fernando, kaso VP na lang siya at di mananalo (but i might vote for him). Di masama loob ko kung si NoyNoy mananalo (kahit parang kulang siya)
imscythe 12-06-2009, 07:57 PM I think what our country needs is a man or shall we say men of action. Kaya mabuti ngayon may tandem na Gordon and Bayani. Gordon has SBMA and Red Cross in his resume and Bayani as MMDA, kaya tong dalawa mga no nonsense guys yun ang dapat nating iboto.
Noynoy although I think he's clean but wala pa syang concrete evidence na magiging effective sya. Villar naman kung gaano ka dami ang ads nya sa tv ay sa malamang ganun ka kunti ang matatrabaho nya if ever magiging president.
Erap and Bro. Eddie, these two are nuisance candidates kaso may makinarya lang talaga para tumakbo.
NYU Alum. 12-06-2009, 08:43 PM Noynoy
+ legacy ng parents. he won't risk ruining their legacy
+ popularity might equate to a candidate not beholden to traditional politics.
+ strong survey showing.
- he is neither Cory nor Ninoy.
- Despite his popularity, he has resorted to pandering with the trapos.
- plataporma---- ????
Villar
+ very good legislator. Has one of the best attendance records in the senate. that is taxmoney well spent.
+ self-made Billionaire. This is better than being born with a silver spoon in one's mouth.
+ Well organized party in NP. (and with Loren, a big warchest in Cojuangco's NPC)
- Political butterfly (balimbing). Was under Estrada's coalition as a Congressman. Jumped ship at the last moment. Ran under GMA's coalition as a Senator. jumped ship again and sought Estrada's blessing in the senate. Allied self with (GMA)administration senators when he became Senate president.
- Business acumen may be overrated. He may have made himself a good businessman, but the bulk of his riches came to be after marrying into a wealthy family.
- Loren as running-mate may help him in the surveys but it speaks something about his judgment. Loren has stabbed Villar twice. First was during his ouster as senate pres, second was his attempted impeachment for the C5 scandal.
Gordon
+ Proven in SBMA. The Presidency is an executive office, hence it calls for a candidate with previous executive experience.
+ has taken on issues which are of great importance but are not controversial enough, therefore ignored by most grandstanders.
+ masipag.
- No strong political party. Campaigning on a national level needs a lot of money. Gordon will be deeply beholden to his financial backers.
Estrada
+ Prior experience.
+ Popular mass base. this is crucial, since popular support enables a candidate to get away with 'unpopular but necessary' decisions.
- Prior experience. even if his term was short lived, the remaining years in his presidency would have been more of the same.
- Eligibility. Common knowledge of the Constitution dictates that whenever the Constitution does not offer specific details on its contents, the statements should be taken as it is. Hence, re-election is re-election in all possible aspects, incumbent or not. However Estrada's popularity and battery of lawyers will ensure an argument in his favor.
Villanueva
+ Values. Vision.
+ Decent machinery ( Party list, check. media, check. solid followers, check )
- Separation of church and state.
- misrepresentation of the Party-list system. CIBAC is not a marginalized sector.
- Experience
- The Philippines is a mix of various religions.
Gibo Teodoro
+ Intelligence
+ Executive experience in DND.
+ Wields respect from the armed forces. this is crucial if one does not want to see reruns of Honasan, Trillanes, Lim.
+ Puno. The kingmaker. ask Mirriam Defensor Santiago why.
+ Lakas-Kampi CMD. Although crumbling, is still the biggest party.
- Unkown amongst voters. Philippine politics = popularity.
- Lakas-Kampi CMD. affiliation with this party is a kiss of death. A number of VP picks declined due to this.
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Importante sa akin:
+ Wala dapat utang na loob, kundi sa voters lang.
+ Di takot sa simbahan. Catholic ako, pero naniniwala ako sa separation of church and state.
+ Political will. Puro takot kasi mawalan ng boto. strong will, pero hindi 'strongman' kasi nobody is good/smart enough to be given absolute power.
+ Vision. Di pwede mabait lang. Dapat may solid plan. Cory restored democratic institutions, Ramos solved (kaso sobrang mahal) the Energy problem and stabilized the military, Nagpa-macho si Estrada, and GMA strengthened the economic institutions (not the economy itself)
Kailangan natin infrastructure para conducive sa business, para may trabaho. Masyadong short sighted at self-serving ang culture of mendicancy practiced by GMA and Erap. At mas shortsighted naman kung gusto lang ng Pinoy e mabait lang, kulang yun.
Anghaba ng post, hehe. as for your question, wala akong gusto sa kanila, passing sana si Fernando, kaso VP na lang siya at di mananalo (but i might vote for him). Di masama loob ko kung si NoyNoy mananalo (kahit parang kulang siya)GMA sure did, lol
al22tec 12-06-2009, 08:56 PM credible: noynoy.
capable: Gibo.
No trapos: villar. Even if he claims hindi siya trapo, sa pagpili lang niya kay Loren na si Loren ang isa sa mga nagpatanggal sa kanya bilang senate president, pinakita niya na trapo siya.
Yung iba, mahihirapan manalo, for different reasons.
So, its a question between credibility and capability.
Sa akin, kay Gibo ako. Ang problema niya, yung connection niya sa administrasyon. Kung mahihirapan si Gibo maiba yung pagtingin ng mga tao sa kanya, pwede ko ilipat ang boto ko kay noynoy. Ang problema ko kay noynoy, he has not shown any capability. Sure, he has shown that he has not amassed ill gotten wealth, but he has also NOT shown any significant accomplishments during his legislative stints. So is he capable to run the country efficiently? Yan ang gusto ko malaman.
imscythe 12-06-2009, 09:08 PM credible: noynoy.
capable: Gibo.
No trapos: villar. Even if he claims hindi siya trapo, sa pagpili lang niya kay Loren na si Loren ang isa sa mga nagpatanggal sa kanya bilang senate president, pinakita niya na trapo siya.
Yung iba, mahihirapan manalo, for different reasons.
So, its a question between credibility and capability.
Sa akin, kay Gibo ako. Ang problema niya, yung connection niya sa administrasyon. Kung mahihirapan si Gibo maiba yung pagtingin ng mga tao sa kanya, pwede ko ilipat ang boto ko kay noynoy. Ang problema ko kay noynoy, he has not shown any capability. Sure, he has shown that he has not amassed ill gotten wealth, but he has also NOT shown any significant accomplishments during his legislative stints. So is he capable to run the country efficiently? Yan ang gusto ko malaman.
Kung gusto mo si Gibo dahil sa kanyang credibility and capability pero dahil sa kanyang connection to GMA you wouldn't vote him, why would you pick Noynoy who has not shown capability to run the country. How about Gordon?
al22tec 12-06-2009, 09:12 PM Gordon-Bayani, mahihirapan kasi sila. Walang makinarya. Personally, I like Bayani when he was still contemplating for the presidency. Pero walang pag-asa. Kaysa sayang ang boto na mapupunta sa kulelat, I would rather choose among the top two contenders, vote wise. I would rather have a president who wins with the highest possible majority vote, rather than a president who wins via a plurarity. Mababaw nga ang basehan, pero maaga pa naman. Maganda sana kung malakas ang mga party system natin. E hindi, so we are stuck deciding based on personalities, rather than platform and party values.
Akinapepemo 12-06-2009, 09:48 PM GMA sure did, lol
haha so true :D
Akinapepemo 12-06-2009, 09:51 PM Maganda sana kung malakas ang mga party system natin. E hindi, so we are stuck deciding based on personalities, rather than platform and party values.
You hit that one right. alam mong in deept syet ang pinas dahil sa personalities ang basehan at di sa plataporma.
Sabi ng analysts my revival naman ng old two party system of sorts, in the form of LP vs NP ngayon.
PrtyBoyDlicious 12-06-2009, 10:00 PM credible: noynoy.
capable: Gibo.
No trapos: villar. Even if he claims hindi siya trapo, sa pagpili lang niya kay Loren na si Loren ang isa sa mga nagpatanggal sa kanya bilang senate president, pinakita niya na trapo siya.
Yung iba, mahihirapan manalo, for different reasons.
So, its a question between credibility and capability.
Sa akin, kay Gibo ako. Ang problema niya, yung connection niya sa administrasyon. Kung mahihirapan si Gibo maiba yung pagtingin ng mga tao sa kanya, pwede ko ilipat ang boto ko kay noynoy. Ang problema ko kay noynoy, he has not shown any capability. Sure, he has shown that he has not amassed ill gotten wealth, but he has also NOT shown any significant accomplishments during his legislative stints. So is he capable to run the country efficiently? Yan ang gusto ko malaman.
Let's all be realistic, walang makakapag patakbo ng Pilipinas efficiently. bakit kamo' PASAWAY ANG MGA PINOY, WALANG DISIPLINA. magaling lang at nagiging disiplinado ang Pinoy kapag nasa ibang bansa na sila, hinde ko naman nilalahat pero majority ng tao sa 'Pinas ganun, kung me lusot magpapalusot. Simple lang ang kailangan ng 'Pinas na maging presidente ngayon, yung HINDE MAGNANAKAW, yung meron MORAL ASCENDANCY.....
Maraming nagawa si Noynoy at naipasang batas, hinde lang publicize kaparis ng ibang pulitiko puro hype lang at press release....
Gibo= Hype job at tuta ng magnanakaw na pamilya, pag eto ang naging presidente, lahat ng kasalanan ni Ate Glue pagtatakpan ni BIGO
Villar= Corrupt
Gordon at Bayani= pwede pa siguro keysa sa dalawang nauna...
tesla_power 12-06-2009, 10:22 PM ako either Gibo or Bayani. Opted for Gibo kasi madami galit kay Bayani. First choice ko dati si Bayani nang wala si Gibo. Bayani is a very good executive but his hardcore stance in implementing law, ordinances, and such... turns the "masa" off. It is good but only a minority understands the reason why he does that.
As for Gibo:
-- Reason : clear ang logic nya at magaling magsalita. Also very intelligent. His answers sa mga pointed question sa kanya sa GMA at ABS is concise, objective, and with basis. Unlike most presidentials, who I feel is more concerned with public perception rather than depth of their statements.
example from Gibo's statement.
1. Can you turn down request from Arroyo and what do you feel of "political debt ( I believe the question was directed to his relation with the present administration )"?
-- I'm grateful for Arroyo for her support. I would have been an "ingrato" if I did not acknowledged that. As long as it is good for the Filipino people, I will.
2. His take on the massacre.
-- the problem stems from the inadequacy of the military to contain insurgence from those region. Previous administrations approved of private armies disguised as "civilian volunteers" because the Philippine army's resources is stretched as it is. The real solution is actually to increase the army but budget deficiency would be an issue.
-- Downside : baka gawin syang puppet ni Arroyo. If he proves that he is his own man, he would make a great president. Also, not many people know him or will take the time to analyze what he is really capable of offering should he become president.
rpogi 12-06-2009, 10:58 PM Let's all be realistic, walang makakapag patakbo ng Pilipinas efficiently. bakit kamo' PASAWAY ANG MGA PINOY, WALANG DISIPLINA. magaling lang at nagiging disiplinado ang Pinoy kapag nasa ibang bansa na sila, hinde ko naman nilalahat pero majority ng tao sa 'Pinas ganun, kung me lusot magpapalusot. Simple lang ang kailangan ng 'Pinas na maging presidente ngayon, yung HINDE MAGNANAKAW, yung meron MORAL ASCENDANCY.....
Maraming nagawa si Noynoy at naipasang batas, hinde lang publicize kaparis ng ibang pulitiko puro hype lang at press release....
Gibo= Hype job at tuta ng magnanakaw na pamilya, pag eto ang naging presidente, lahat ng kasalanan ni Ate Glue pagtatakpan ni BIGO
Villar= Corrupt
Gordon at Bayani= pwede pa siguro keysa sa dalawang nauna...
Bro, wala talagang napasang batas si Noynoy. Zero on legislative work. He was content on being the son of Ninoy and Cory. He did not overachieve. He was pushed into the presidency when cory died and there was hype on the so called cory magic.
The main reason i wont vote for Noynoy is his incompetence and lack of leadership qualities.
tesla_power 12-06-2009, 11:22 PM Let's all be realistic, walang makakapag patakbo ng Pilipinas efficiently. bakit kamo' PASAWAY ANG MGA PINOY, WALANG DISIPLINA. magaling lang at nagiging disiplinado ang Pinoy kapag nasa ibang bansa na sila, hinde ko naman nilalahat pero majority ng tao sa 'Pinas ganun, kung me lusot magpapalusot. Simple lang ang kailangan ng 'Pinas na maging presidente ngayon, yung HINDE MAGNANAKAW, yung meron MORAL ASCENDANCY.....
Maraming nagawa si Noynoy at naipasang batas, hinde lang publicize kaparis ng ibang pulitiko puro hype lang at press release....
Gibo= Hype job at tuta ng magnanakaw na pamilya, pag eto ang naging presidente, lahat ng kasalanan ni Ate Glue pagtatakpan ni BIGO
Villar= Corrupt
Gordon at Bayani= pwede pa siguro keysa sa dalawang nauna...
Pre, with all due respect sa nanay at tatay ni Noynoy, also kay Noynoy. Noynoy is the hype job. Hindi mo ma question ang credibility nya pero performance-wise... hindi ako sure sa capability nya. Kinakabahan ako sa mga supporters nya kung sino talaga ang totoo doon or may personal agenda.
PrtyBoyDlicious 12-06-2009, 11:26 PM Bro, wala talagang napasang batas si Noynoy. Zero on legislative work. He was content on being the son of Ninoy and Cory. He did not overachieve. He was pushed into the presidency when cory died and there was hype on the so called cory magic.
The main reason i wont vote for Noynoy is his incompetence and lack of leadership qualities.
Walang napasang batas? Noynoy's incompetence? Baka mapahiya ka, don't make any sweeping statements. Pakibasa please lang ang mga naipasang batas ni Noynoy sa ibaba..Also, Filipinos doesn't need leadership. What our country need is somebody who will not steal from us, very simple presidential qualification.
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SENATOR BENIGNO “NOYNOY” S. AQUINO III ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN PUBLIC
SERVICE
Senator Noynoy Aquino is vigilant in his pursuit of truth, justice and
freedom, the fundamental principles that make democracy work in this
country that his parents had likewise fought hard to restore. His
commitment to preserve, strengthen and continue their legacy is
evident in his accomplishments.
I. Positions held
Chairman, Committee on Local Government
Co-chair, Committee on Justice and Human Rights
II. Committee Membership
• Accounts
• Economic Affairs
• Education, Arts and Culture
• Environment and Natural Resources
• Government Corporations and Public Enterprises
• Justice and Human Rights
• National Defense and Security
• Peace, Reunification and Reconciliation
• Public Works
• Trade and Commerce
• Urban Planning, Housing and Development
• Ways and Means
• Youth, Women and Family Relations
III. Senate Bills
Senate Bill No. 1370 – an act granting an annual productivity
incentive to all workers in the private sector, establishing
mechanisms for its implementation, and for other purposes
Senate Bill No. 1719 – an act limiting the re-appointment of
presidential nominees by-passed by the Commission on Appointments (CA)
Senate Bill No. 1710 – an act banning the re-appointment of a regular
member of the Judicial and Bar Council (JBC) who has already served
the full term
Senate Bill No. 2035 – an act requiring the regular maintenance and
preservation of all public infrastructures, establishing mechanisms
for its implementation and for other purposes
Senate Bill No. 2036 – an act increasing the penalties for non-
compliance of the prescribed increases and adjustments in the wage
rates of workers, amending for the purpose Republic Act No. 6727
Senate Bill 2159 – an act adopting the doctrine of superior
responsibility to all actions involving military personnel, members of
the Philippine National Police and other civilians involved in law
enforcement
Senate Bill 2160 – an act amending Section 4 of RA 9184, otherwise
known as the Government Procurement Reform Act to further restrict
exemptions to the requirement of public bidding
Senate Bill 2978 – an act amending the DILG Act to further clarify the
relationship between local chief executives and their respective local
police chiefs
Senate Bill 3121 – the Budget Impoundment Control Act, which seeks to
strengthen legislative oversight over executive spending
IV. Senate Resolutions
Senate Resolution No. 190 – investigating the exercise and
implementation of the powers of local chief executives under Republic
Act 7160 otherwise known as the “Local Government Code of 1991” in
relation to Republic Act 6975 known as the “Philippine National Police
(PNP) Law”
and Republic Act 8551 known as “The PNP Reform and Reorganization Act
of 1998”
Senate Resolution No. 205 – investigating the bomb explosion at the
House of Representatives, condemning in the strongest possible terms
the recent bombing at the House of Representatives, extending
sympathies to the victims and calling on authorities to conduct a
swift and thorough investigation into this incident
Senate Resolution No. 229 – directing the appropriate Senate
committees to conduct an inquiry, in aid of legislation, on the
circumstances leading to the arrest and ‘processing’ of journalists
and media personalities after the Manila Peninsula standoff on 29
November 2007
V. Fiscalizer
The responsibilities of a senator go beyond the drafting of
legislation or the creation of policies. As a true representative of
the people, Senator Aquino has consistently voiced his concerns on
several issues, drawing attention to the anomalies in our current
administration.
2009 General Appropriations Act (GAA)
By vigorously examining the General Appropriations Act for 2009
submitted by the Executive, Senator Aquino was able to propose key
amendments to the 2009 GAA that seek to tighten congressional
oversight on the executive’s use of public funds.
Champion of Human Rights and People’s Participation
At the heart of all legislative and policy-making initiatives is the
development and welfare of the people. Senator Aquino has sought the
proper relocation of informal settlers and the delineation of
authority of parties involved in demolitions such as the MMDA. The
bill amending the UDHA is currently underway.
Through his privilege speeches, Senator Aquino has drawn attention to
the plight of desaparecidos and victims of extra-judicial killings. He
introduced substantial amendments to the Cooperative Code to make it
more responsive to the needs of the marginalized sector for which the
code was enacted. They are meant to strengthen the cooperative
movement by providing for transparent measures for members and
officers of cooperatives.
He is also part of the bicameral debates on the Anti-Torture Act.
Accountability to the People
Senator Aquino actively participated in the hearings that investigated
a number of reported scandals involving the alleged misuse of public
funds, such as the ZTE-NBN deal, the Euro Generals and the Fertilizer
Fund scam. These hearings brought to light the need for increased
transparency and accountability in the disbursal of taxpayers’ money.
Integrity of the Senate
The series of scandals that stain the reputation of our government has
also challenged the Senate of the Philippines as an institution. The
recent attempts to amend the Constitution, for instance, have
compelled our Senators, including Senator Aquino, to firmly assert
their defiant stand on this issue.
Energy Sector
Senator Aquino has been vigilant in the hearings regarding the sale of
TRANSCO and PNOC-EDC. Much of his time and energy was spent on the
EPIRA and TRANSCO amendments, questioning the sale of revenue-
generating assets prior to the privatization of key government
corporations. Senator Aquino sought clarification as to whether the
sales of these assets were part of a long-term energy development plan
or not to ensure that the long-term impact of losing these assets have
been considered prior to their sales.
National Integrity
Senator Aquino voted “NO” to the controversial JPEPA because he
believed that the Filipino people deserved a better negotiated and
mutually beneficial treaty.
VI. Institution builder
Last but not least, Senator Aquino has dedicated his life in public
service to strengthening our democratic institutions. Principal among
these is his commitment to a genuine party system in the Philippines,
as reflected in his membership in and strong commitment to the Liberal
Party.
• Executive Vice President, December 18, 2007 to present
• Vice Chairman, March 17, 2006 to December 17, 2007
• Secretary General, 2004 to March 16, 2006
• Vice-Pres. for Luzon, 2002-2004
• Secretary General, 1999-2002
• Chairman of the Board, Central Luzon Congressional Caucus
VII. Accomplishments as three-term member of the House of
Representatives:
A. Positions held
Deputy Speaker, 13th Congress
B. Committee Membership
13th Congress
• Banks & Financial Intermediaries
• Energy
• Export Promotion
• Public Order & Safety
12th Congress
• Civil, Political & Human Rights
• Good Government
• Inter-Parliamentary Relations & Diplomacy
• Public Order & Security
11th Congress
• Agriculture
• Appropriations
• Banks & Financial Intermediaries
• Civil, Political & Human Rights (Vice-Chairman)
• Natural Resources
• Peoples’ Participation
• Public Order & Security
• Suffrage and Electoral Reforms
• Trade & Industry
• Transportation & Communications
C. Priority Bills
• House Bill No. 4251 – granting annual productivity incentives to all
workers in the private sector
• House Bill No. 4397 – strengthening the regulatory power of the
Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) to effectively enforce consumer
laws
• House Bill No. 4252 – increasing the penalties for non-compliance of
the prescribed increases and adjustments in the wage rates of workers
• House Bill No. 3616 – extending the reglementary period for the
educational qualification for PNP members
• House Bill No. 1842 – providing for the codification of criminal
laws
D. Resolutions
• House Resolution No. 65 – inquiry in aid of legislation into the
policies and processes of the Energy Regulatory Commission (ERC) in
granting rate increases to electric utilities
• House Resolution No. 788 – creating a select Congressional
Oversight Committee on intelligence funds to check and study the use
of intelligence funds by government agencies to ensure that funds
allocated therefore are utilized for the purpose they are intended
E. Other legislation
a. Introduced an amendment in the General Appropriations Act requiring
public bidding in the purchase of petroleum, oil and lubricant
products for the Department of National Defense
PrtyBoyDlicious 12-06-2009, 11:35 PM Pre, with all due respect sa nanay at tatay ni Noynoy, also kay Noynoy. Noynoy is the hype job. Hindi mo ma question ang credibility nya pero performance-wise... hindi ako sure sa capability nya. Kinakabahan ako sa mga supporters nya kung sino talaga ang totoo doon or may personal agenda.
Kung hinde ka sure sa capabilities ni Noynoy, I suggest make your due diligence.
Start here:
SENATOR BENIGNO “NOYNOY” S. AQUINO III ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN PUBLIC
SERVICE
http://haringliwanag.pansitan.net/?p=809
Part 1 of 5
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Mares 12-06-2009, 11:38 PM gordon and bayani is a killer combo, if they would lose the entire military should stage a coup and put those 2 in place. :D
PrtyBoyDlicious 12-06-2009, 11:50 PM Re-post from:
http://noypi-ako.com/love-for-country-index-%E2%80%94-a-personal-e-mail/
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Love for Country
From: Robert
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 17:07:56 -0800
To all,
I am a member of a forum for Ateneo graduates and I was asked by a friend C.B. on why I was supporting this movement for the Noynoy – Mar candidacy. Previous to this, there was an article written by Emil Jurado questioning the legislative record of Noynoy.
Following is my reply:
Subject: Love of country versus love of self Index
Charlie,
My decision to back the Noynoy Aquino – Mar Roxas ticket is based on a simple idea.
The idea that I have come up with is that there is a constant struggle, call it a tug-of-war, between a person’s love of country and love of self.
On one end of the scale would be a 10 (ten) wherein a candidate’s actions once in office would be dictated only by his love for his country and his fellow Filipinos, nothing else.
On the other end of the scale would be a 0 (zero) wherein a candidate’s actions will be based only on his selfish interests, such as power, money, paying off political debts, fame, and other considerations.
I do not care what a person’s past legislative acts have been. I do not care about whether he was a womanizer, gay, a gambler, etc, etc.
And I don’t even care if he came from Ateneo, UP, or La Salle, a member of Mensa, or whether he or she has an advanced degree in Economics or Political Science. Just look at the people in the current administration. I rest my case on this one.
What is important to me is how I perceive him to be once he is in office.
I agree that one’s perceptions is very subjective but I do believe that if a candidate’s heart is in the right place, everything else falls into place.
I do not have the time at the moment to put into graphics form my ranking on the different candidates but suffice it to say that in my opinion the Noynoy-Mar ticket is way ahead of the pack in terms of this very simplistic idea.
Call me naïve, but you asked for my opinion.
Robert P.
LarryX2031 12-07-2009, 12:05 AM i hate presidents
tesla_power 12-07-2009, 12:36 AM Kung hinde ka sure sa capabilities ni Noynoy, I suggest make your due diligence.
Start here:
SENATOR BENIGNO “NOYNOY” S. AQUINO III ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN PUBLIC
SERVICE
http://haringliwanag.pansitan.net/?p=809
Part 1 of 5
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Pre, you must take it relatively. Check out this link
http://www.senate.gov.ph/lis/leg_sys.aspx?congress=14&type=bill&senator=ABENI&p=1
You will find that he is author/co-author in bills that would fill just 3 pages. 1 page roughly 8 bills. There is a filter option there. You would see that
Lito Lapid -- 22 pages
Trillianes -- 39 pages
even
Honasan -- 6 pages
If you wish to tell me, quality over quantity( its a concept I believe in ) , ok... but if you go through those bills authored by Noynoy, IMO, you would find that only about 50% is relevant.
I'm not knocking Noynoy. But it is my personal opinion that he has not done enough to merit my vote.
rpogi 12-07-2009, 01:21 AM Bro those you enumerated above are all bills filed and none was made into law. So still noynoy made no significant law during his stint as congressman and senator. Just to make a comparion a younger Sen. Zubiri fared much better than Noynoy, he was able to file a bill and made it into a law to wit the Rent control Act, Biofuel Act, Dangerous Drugs Act, Phil Rate Base increase Act, Wildlife Conservation Act.
Every average legislator can file a bill (instruct his legal team to craft one then file it himself) but the real hard work is how he persevere and push his co lawmakers to support and defend the same on the plenary. E tamad nga ata si noynoy so file lang sya ng file without it reaching the plenary for debates.
Resolutiions are just mere **** papers showing your support of condemnation of certain acts. walang maitulong yan sa Bayan.
He filed a lot of bills without it being made into law say much of how Noynoy will run our country in the future.
As to his being incorruptible, just remember the Kamaganak Inc during the time of Cory, The Hacienda Luisita issue.
If simple lang batayan natin sa ating presidente i dont know how if ever this simple man will handle the complicated affairs of the government. We deserve someone better than being the son of Ninoy and Cory.
rpogi 12-07-2009, 01:28 AM Reality Bites, Sad but True.
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/home/opinion/18872-presidential-betshow-one-taipan-sees-them.html
Now take your pick...
tesla_power 12-07-2009, 01:40 AM Bro those you enumerated above are all bills filed and none was made into law. So still noynoy made no significant law during his stint as congressman and senator. Just to make a comparion a younger Sen. Zubiri fared much better than Noynoy, he was able to file a bill and made it into a law to wit the Rent control Act, Biofuel Act, Dangerous Drugs Act, Phil Rate Base increase Act, Wildlife Conservation Act.
Every average legislator can file a bill (instruct his legal team to craft one then file it himself) but the real hard work is how he persevere and push his co lawmakers to support and defend the same on the plenary. E tamad nga ata si noynoy so file lang sya ng file without it reaching the plenary for debates.
Resolutiions are just mere **** papers showing your support of condemnation of certain acts. walang maitulong yan sa Bayan.
He filed a lot of bills without it being made into law say much of how Noynoy will run our country in the future.
As to his being incorruptible, just remember the Kamaganak Inc during the time of Cory, The Hacienda Luisita issue.
If simple lang batayan natin sa ating presidente i dont know how if ever this simple man will handle the complicated affairs of the government. We deserve someone better than being the son of Ninoy and Cory.
In defense to Noynoy, The Luisita case is his parents issue. It should not be his burden but I agree that people will judge him on how he will handle this. Also, the bills-to-law number is very rare that it is said that on average 200M is spent for 1 law. Sad but true but this is not limited to Noynoys case.
I'm more concerned with Noynoys stance on political and economic issues. Have not seen an in-depth answer yet. :sad:
rpogi 12-07-2009, 01:59 AM @tesla, bro hacienda luisita is a Noynoy issue, he is a stakeholder on this. If gibo is being branded as GMA puppet it is but proper for all presidentiables to answer each issue that needs anwswers.
This will test his leadership qualities, if he cant, the least assert his persuasive capabalities on the stakeholders of the Luisita issues including the tenants, how much more can he solve the more complicated issues surrounding our country.
miron_lang 12-07-2009, 02:41 AM sa aking opinyon. balik muna sa basic dahil masyado masalimuot ang pulitika sa pinas.
Mahihilo ka talaga.
Miriam dati kalaban si GMA ngayon kampi na nya
Loren dati kalaban si Villar ngayon tandem na sila
FVR at GMA kampi dati
GMA at Guingona kampi dati
Fred Lim at Atienza tandem dati ngayon Mortal na magka away.
Rey Malonzo dati Mortal na kaaway ng mga Asistio ngayon Vice na sya ni Asistio
Wala na kahihiyan mga pulitiko sa tin.
Yung pinaka basic na na qualification na lang IMO. Di ko din ininekspek na ganyan mang yayari ke GMA. (Binoto ko sya).
LarryX2031 12-07-2009, 02:58 AM sa aking opinyon. balik muna sa basic dahil masyado masalimuot ang pulitika sa pinas.
Mahihilo ka talaga.
Miriam dati kalaban si GMA ngayon kampi na nya
Loren dati kalaban si Villar ngayon tandem na sila
FVR at GMA kampi dati
GMA at Guingona kampi dati
Fred Lim at Atienza tandem dati ngayon Mortal na magka away.
Rey Malonzo dati Mortal na kaaway ng mga Asistio ngayon Vice na sya ni Asistio
Wala na kahihiyan mga pulitiko sa tin.
Yung pinaka basic na na qualification na lang IMO. Di ko din ininekspek na ganyan mang yayari ke GMA. (Binoto ko sya).
kung hindi mo binoto si GMA, sino dapat ang iboboto mo?
miron_lang 12-07-2009, 03:15 AM kung hindi mo binoto si GMA, sino dapat ang iboboto mo?
SI FPJ kalaban nya eh.
STUNNA 12-07-2009, 03:21 AM there should be a president of boxingscene!
LarryX2031 12-07-2009, 03:29 AM SI FPJ kalaban nya eh.
yun ba iyung pangalawang beses na pagtakbo ni gloria bilang pangulo?
miron_lang 12-07-2009, 03:34 AM yun ba iyung pangalawang beses na pagtakbo ni gloria bilang pangulo?
Isang beses lang sya tumakbo. Namana lang nya yung almost 4 yrs ke Erap. Almost 10 yrs na syang presidente kahit saan mo tignan parang me mali sa pagtakbo nya bilang Kongresista :(
LarryX2031 12-07-2009, 03:57 AM Isang beses lang sya tumakbo. Namana lang nya yung almost 4 yrs ke Erap. Almost 10 yrs na syang presidente kahit saan mo tignan parang me mali sa pagtakbo nya bilang Kongresista :(
oo nga pala. sya pumalit k erap noon. "erap resign!" was kinda popular in that day.
nakita ko nga sa tv na balak tumakbo uli ng kongresista doon sa probinsya nya yata.
( do ) 12-07-2009, 05:05 AM Noynoy - first and foremost kailangan natin ng malinis na pamamahala..
Gordon - pwede sana pero kulang sa makinarya..
Gibo - matalino pero baka maging tuta ng mga Arroyo..
Villar - i worked more than 6 yrs under the MBVillar Co. and i can say that
he's not clean..
- he's mixing business and politics (the reason why i resigned)
pina-parehistro yung mga trabahador sa site as flying voters
sa Las Piñas para makaboto sa kanya noong panahon nya
bilang congressman..
- i can go on and on but to make it short, he's not getting my vote
yung iba pampagulo lang yan..
rpogi 12-07-2009, 06:43 AM Noynoy malinis? How about the Cojuangcos, kamaganak inc. Can he control their appetite for corruption, how about the oligarchs on his midst, the lopezes, aranetas. Walang malinis sa politika natin ngayon. He had a good start but did you notice the LP right now, members are with diverse interest; leftist, extreme right, political butterflies (the rectos, belmontes, drillons, hyatt 10 etc). Kelangan matindi ang utak ni noynoy to control them if not mas kawawa pinas.
al22tec 12-07-2009, 08:04 AM Reality Bites, Sad but True.
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/home/opinion/18872-presidential-betshow-one-taipan-sees-them.html
Now take your pick...
Yun nga sabi ko. maganda lan sabi insik yon. akin capable, kanya #1 corrupt. akin credible, kanya #3 stupid. Wala ako sabi tungkol sa #2 crazy. Talaga crazy. So, ano pili ninyo? kayo pili. Ako gulo utak.
Epppsss, naging pinoy chinoy tuloy ang nasulat ko!!
Rich Joke 12-07-2009, 08:53 AM I support any candidate who supports an independent Islamic state in Southern Philippines :biggthump
PrtyBoyDlicious 12-07-2009, 09:22 AM Noynoy malinis? How about the Cojuangcos, kamaganak inc. Can he control their appetite for corruption, how about the oligarchs on his midst, the lopezes, aranetas. Walang malinis sa politika natin ngayon. He had a good start but did you notice the LP right now, members are with diverse interest; leftist, extreme right, political butterflies (the rectos, belmontes, drillons, hyatt 10 etc). Kelangan matindi ang utak ni noynoy to control them if not mas kawawa pinas.
Kung iko-compare mo si Noynoy sa ibang kandidato sino sa tingin mo ang higit na mas malinis sa kanya?
Sino ba iboboto mo?
rpogi 12-07-2009, 10:00 AM Kung iko-compare mo si Noynoy sa ibang kandidato sino sa tingin mo ang higit na mas malinis sa kanya?
Sino ba iboboto mo?
Just for the sake of argument, yung "malinis" e baka si brother eddie v.
But i already put out of the equation yung "malinis" issue. For the simple reason that every candidate has its own dirt hiding in their closet.
Gordon= Shareman tawag sa kanya sa SBMA before
Villar= C5
Aquino= Luisita issues, Kamaganak Inc, Trapo din pala.
Erap= i dont have to mention it.
Gibo= The sole disadvantage is his being a GMA man.
But he already explained that he is just being grateful to GMA for giving a 43 year old a chance to prove himself in the executive department. I am voting for Gibos qualification and not for GMA. i just dont buy the idea that a vote for GIBO is a vote for GMA. That is just a political spin on the part of his opponents.
Mares 12-07-2009, 11:04 AM dick gordon!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PrtyBoyDlicious 12-07-2009, 07:26 PM Just for the sake of argument, yung "malinis" e baka si brother eddie v.
But i already put out of the equation yung "malinis" issue. For the simple reason that every candidate has its own dirt hiding in their closet.
Gordon= Shareman tawag sa kanya sa SBMA before
Villar= C5
Aquino= Luisita issues, Kamaganak Inc, Trapo din pala.
Erap= i dont have to mention it.
Gibo= The sole disadvantage is his being a GMA man.
But he already explained that he is just being grateful to GMA for giving a 43 year old a chance to prove himself in the executive department. I am voting for Gibos qualification and not for GMA. i just dont buy the idea that a vote for GIBO is a vote for GMA. That is just a political spin on the part of his opponents.
Luisita issues, na-enherit nya lang yan sa Cojuangco side ng family nya. Kamaganak Inc? Panahon lang ni Cory yun. Ang pagkukulang ng ina ay hinde natin pwedeng ipataw sa kanyang supling.
Another Gibo's baggage, Uncle nya si Danding Cojuangco, him and the old cronies will be there too pag naging presidente sya. It will be worst than Gloria's administration. It will be another case of the president having a political debt. Who do you think is bankrolling Gibo's presidential campaign?
http://67.225.139.201/cebu/wenceslao-gibo-teodoro-%E2%80%98gloria-danding%E2%80%99
PrtyBoyDlicious 12-07-2009, 07:57 PM What has Gibo done for the Philippines for him to be elected as president? He may have the credentials but that doesn't mean he's fit to be the next president. He doesn't have the character, he is a willing lap dog of Gloria. He is the anointed candidate of the Arroyo family for a purpose, to return the favor. Which he admitted who he owed his loyalty to.
A vote for Gibo is a vote for Gloria. Enough with the Arroyos and the culture of political indebtedness which is the root of government corruption.
rpogi 12-07-2009, 08:52 PM Luisita issues, na-enherit nya lang yan sa Cojuangco side ng family nya. Kamaganak Inc? Panahon lang ni Cory yun. Ang pagkukulang ng ina ay hinde natin pwedeng ipataw sa kanyang supling.
Another Gibo's baggage, Uncle nya si Danding Cojuangco, him and the old cronies will be there too pag naging presidente sya. It will be worst than Gloria's administration. It will be another case of the president having a political debt. Who do you think is bankrolling Gibo's presidential campaign?
http://67.225.139.201/cebu/wenceslao-gibo-teodoro-%E2%80%98gloria-danding%E2%80%99
You are not being objective here bro, If you affiliate GMA with GIBO why skirt the issues of Luisita where in fact Noynoy is a direct stakeholder of the property, e ung ke Gibo is affiliation lang.
As to what GIBO has done for our country? i will throw back the question to you, what has NOY done for us to merit our vote. He was always at the shadow of Cory then, cite me an instance in the past where NOY led an effort to condemn graft and corruption. During Eraps' time it was the spice boys led by Zubiri, Barbers, Defensor etc that led to snowballing of signature to get the impeachment of ERAP. Durring GMAs time it was her MOM who was hogging the limelight in asking GMA to resign. And when he ran for the Senate it was Erap who raised his hand. tsk tsk. He was just pushed into the presidency by LP because cory died. that was all into it.
As to Danding factor NOY and GIBO are related by blood.
As to GIBOs' accomplishment go to DND ask soldiers and civilians alike what they think of GIBO and see for youself.
And as to NOY go to Luisita his hometurf and ask his constituent if the they think NOY is worthy of being the next president.
plolglolglolp 12-07-2009, 09:46 PM hindi ko lang gusto kay noynoy eh, against siya sa CARP just to prevent their hacienda being distributed to farmers.amdame parin pasikot2 magsalita c noy2, parang wala talagang akong marinig na firm and direct to the point kung anu talaga ang tinutumbok nya.para lang cguro masarap pakinggan sa masa.for gibo, i wont vote him because of his affiliation to gloria. i wud go for gordon, result oriented and very firm
PrtyBoyDlicious 12-07-2009, 09:50 PM You are not being objective here bro, If you affiliate GMA with GIBO why skirt the issues of Luisita where in fact Noynoy is a direct stakeholder of the property, e ung ke Gibo is affiliation lang.
As to what GIBO has done for our country? i will throw back the question to you, what has NOY done for us to merit our vote. He was always at the shadow of Cory then, cite me an instance in the past where NOY led an effort to condemn graft and corruption. During Eraps' time it was the spice boys led by Zubiri, Barbers, Defensor etc that led to snowballing of signature to get the impeachment of ERAP. Durring GMAs time it was her MOM who was hogging the limelight in asking GMA to resign. And when he ran for the Senate it was Erap who raised his hand. tsk tsk. He was just pushed into the presidency by LP because cory died. that was all into it.
As to Danding factor NOY and GIBO are related by blood.
As to GIBOs' accomplishment go to DND ask soldiers and civilians alike what they think of GIBO and see for youself.
And as to NOY go to Luisita his hometurf and ask his constituent if the they think NOY is worthy of being the next president.
I already posted Noynoy's accomplishment and the issue regarding Luisita. Read it again.
LOL...Gibo's accomplishment? WALA, NADA, ZERO...Please don't hype Gibo.
He's nothing but Gloria's puppet. :D
menoari 12-07-2009, 09:53 PM Makikiraan po at makikisawsaw.
Viable pa ba si Gibo? Ang baba sa mga survey. Yun administration party nauubuos na ng members nila by "defections".
Sa tingin ko ang labanan na lang Villar and Aquino na lang.
rpogi 12-07-2009, 09:59 PM I already posted Noynoy's accomplishment and the issue regarding Luisita. Read it again.
LOL...Gibo's accomplishment? WALA, NADA, ZERO...Please don't hype Gibo.
He's nothing but Gloria's puppet. :D
And i did put a rebuttal on your post regarding NOYNOYs' bills and resolution which are all just a piece of **** cause it was never acted into law, if you call that accomplishment i wont blame you for it.
I am not hyping GIBO i am stating a fact which are all verifiable.
PrtyBoyDlicious 12-07-2009, 10:25 PM And i did put a rebuttal on your post regarding NOYNOYs' bills and resolution which are all just a piece of **** cause it was never acted into law, if you call that accomplishment i wont blame you for it.
I am not hyping GIBO i am stating a fact which are all verifiable.
True, those bills and resolutions are not yet enacted into law but its legal framework has been done and completed by Noynoy and his co-author. It takes the Senate and the Congress to pass it into law.
So, saying Noynoy never accomplished anything as a legislature is a big lie.
As Filipinos, we should continue the fight that Ninoy has left behind to bring down tyranny in our country and the most credible person to lead us against the evil Arroyos and her cohorts (Gibo, et al) is his son. :D
PrtyBoyDlicious 12-07-2009, 10:32 PM Just for the sake of argument, yung "malinis" e baka si brother eddie v.
But i already put out of the equation yung "malinis" issue. For the simple reason that every candidate has its own dirt hiding in their closet.
Gordon= Shareman tawag sa kanya sa SBMA before
Villar= C5
Aquino= Luisita issues, Kamaganak Inc, Trapo din pala.
Erap= i dont have to mention it.
Gibo= The sole disadvantage is his being a GMA man.
But he already explained that he is just being grateful to GMA for giving a 43 year old a chance to prove himself in the executive department. I am voting for Gibos qualification and not for GMA. i just dont buy the idea that a vote for GIBO is a vote for GMA. That is just a political spin on the part of his opponents.
Brother Eddie V is the dirtiest. Why? Ginawa nyang hanapbuhay ang relihiyon.
rpogi 12-07-2009, 10:40 PM True, those bills and resolutions are not yet enacted into law but its legal framework has been done and completed by Noynoy and his co-author. It takes the Senate and the Congress to pass it into law.
So, saying Noynoy never accomplished anything as a legislature is a big lie.
As Filipinos, we should continue the fight that Ninoy has left behind to bring down tyranny in our country and the most credible person to lead us against the evil Arroyos and her cohorts (Gibo, et al) is his son. :D
I wont call it accomplishments, paperworks is best aptly describe those bills and resolutions.
Noy failed to defend it at plenary and it was left as mere piece of paperworks.
rpogi 12-07-2009, 10:50 PM True, those bills and resolutions are not yet enacted into law but its legal framework has been done and completed by Noynoy and his co-author. It takes the Senate and the Congress to pass it into law.
So, saying Noynoy never accomplished anything as a legislature is a big lie.
As Filipinos, we should continue the fight that Ninoy has left behind to bring down tyranny in our country and the most credible person to lead us against the evil Arroyos and her cohorts (Gibo, et al) is his son. :D
Bold caption is nothing but just motherhood statements, Some say NOY is against graft and corruption but he courted erap and asked him to raised his hand during his senate run. He is against military takeover but he adopted GEN. LIM at his senate slate, Noy is against tyranny but he alligned with leftist group, Against evil arroyo and his cohorts but he is with Recto and Vilma right now not to count the belmontes, ecchiveri etc.. tsk tsk and more tsk.
You are evil if you are not with us and suddenly morally upright if you side with us. That is how LP run its campaign.
Keith Richards 12-07-2009, 10:52 PM definitely no to eddie V because of his fairy tale beliefs
PrtyBoyDlicious 12-08-2009, 12:35 AM Bold caption is nothing but just motherhood statements, Some say NOY is against graft and corruption but he courted erap and asked him to raised his hand during his senate run. He is against military takeover but he adopted GEN. LIM at his senate slate, Noy is against tyranny but he alligned with leftist group, Against evil arroyo and his cohorts but he is with Recto and Vilma right now not to count the belmontes, ecchiveri etc.. tsk tsk and more tsk.
You are evil if you are not with us and suddenly morally upright if you side with us. That is how LP run its campaign.
Noynoy and LP never courted Erap, it was Erap who hatched the idea that oppositions must unite so that they will have a better chance of defeating the CORRUPT ADMINISTRATION's anointed lap dog who is Gibo. It was a good idea only if LP will not succumb to the demands of Erap which LP eventually turned down.
2010 presidential election indeed is a battle between good and evil. Gloria's ticket as the tyrants and the oppressed Filipinos represented by Noynoy.
I can't understand the logic of Filipinos who would vote for Gibo, everybody knows that he will be indebted to the corrupt Gloria if wins the presidency. We all know that its the stolen funds from the coffers of the government fueling Gibo's presidential campaign. So why would we still choose to vote for this person?
As DND chief, Gibo also spent its funds for his media advertisement, true story.
PrtyBoyDlicious 12-08-2009, 12:42 AM Gibo Teodoro is an eloquent speaker, has excellent educational attainment and so as Marcos and Gloria. But once you sleep with a pig in the mud you'll also becomes a pig.
PrtyBoyDlicious 12-08-2009, 12:59 AM Bold caption is nothing but just motherhood statements, Some say NOY is against graft and corruption but he courted erap and asked him to raised his hand during his senate run. He is against military takeover but he adopted GEN. LIM at his senate slate, Noy is against tyranny but he alligned with leftist group, Against evil arroyo and his cohorts but he is with Recto and Vilma right now not to count the belmontes, ecchiveri etc.. tsk tsk and more tsk.
You are evil if you are not with us and suddenly morally upright if you side with us. That is how LP run its campaign.
Gen. Danny Lim, former commander of the Scout Ranger Regiment, he is a rebel with a cause, he is a different animal. He is an idealist and I think that's what Filipinos ought to be.
It's really a battle of good versus evil. Arroyo vs Noynoy.
peyk-peyk 12-08-2009, 01:34 AM Gen. Danny Lim, former commander of the Scout Ranger Regiment, he is a rebel with a cause, he is a different animal. He is an idealist and I think that's what Filipinos ought to be.
It's really a battle of good versus evil. Arroyo vs Noynoy.
Dude if you're one of the candidates for the President, I swear I'll vote for you as long as you appoint me as the Secretary of the Treasury. I'll make sure all federal money will be safe in my wallet.
You are the one that we Filipinos are looking for, straightforward, to the point knowledge of Philippine history and most of all you're appointing yours truly as a cabinet member. :D
Akinapepemo 12-08-2009, 01:39 AM Gen. Danny Lim, former commander of the Scout Ranger Regiment, he is a rebel with a cause, he is a different animal. He is an idealist and I think that's what Filipinos ought to be.
It's really a battle of good versus evil. Arroyo vs Noynoy.
How i wish it were that simple.
the situation reminds me of GMA vs FPJ. while not a perfect comparison, people then were scared of what would happen if x won, so some settled for voting for the not so favorable option in y.
...Gibo is as much of a GMA lapdog as Noynoy is burdened with competency issues. Walang faultess sa candidates, its a matter of which issues matter most to the voter.
Akinapepemo 12-08-2009, 01:44 AM Plus, Gibo's ratings are dismal, so its a moot point.
Again, the way it is looking right now it is Villar vs Noynoy.
How i wish it were that simple.
the situation reminds me of GMA vs FPJ. while not a perfect comparison, people then were scared of what would happen if x won, so some settled for voting for the not so favorable option in y.
...Gibo is as much of a GMA lapdog as Noynoy is burdened with competency issues. Walang faultess sa candidates, its a matter of which issues matter most to the voter.
How would you know the Gibo will be more competent than Noynoy? Just want to ask 'cause I know for a fact that Noynoy has more political experience compared to Gibo.
Please educate me...
Thanks
Akinapepemo 12-08-2009, 01:58 AM How would you know the Gibo will be more competent than Noynoy? Just want to ask 'cause I know for a fact that Noynoy has more political experience compared to Gibo.
Please educate me...
Thanks
I dont. Just an opinion derived from their former positions, whereas Noynoy boasts of longer Gov't service, his experience was primarily legislative, not executive.
rpogi 12-08-2009, 02:10 AM Gen. Danny Lim, former commander of the Scout Ranger Regiment, he is a rebel with a cause, he is a different animal. He is an idealist and I think that's what Filipinos ought to be.
It's really a battle of good versus evil. Arroyo vs Noynoy.
Bro, Gen. LIM as an idealist? Thats a big question mark for me, opportunist maybe the right word. He led a group of ranger in taking over Makati when he was still a captain during the time of Cory, what is he fighting for then, corruption? he tried it again during the time of GMA. Idealist, reformist.. you may call him that but i still dont buy it.
Arroyo vs Noynoy, the last time i checked GMA is running for congress and NOY as president.
Akinapepemo 12-08-2009, 02:20 AM Bro, Gen. LIM as an idealist? Thats a big question mark for me, opportunist maybe the right word. He led a group of ranger in taking over Makati when he was still a captain during the time of Cory, what is he fighting for then, corruption? he tried it again during the time of GMA. Idealist, reformist.. you may call him that but i still dont buy it.
Arroyo vs Noynoy, the last time i checked GMA is running for congress and NOY as president.
Pre, counted pa rin naman na idealist, albeit misplaced/naive ang idealism niya. I hate it when soldiers dabble in political exercises (they shouldn't be, they are armed.plus i don't want taxmoney spent on soldiers shooting soldiers), but nonetheless, he acted in what he thought was right.
I think what he fought for during Cory's time was the sentiment that Cory's admin was left leaning. Such was the situation of Cory's admin that it was too leftist for the military, and too Pro-US for the leftists.
rpogi 12-08-2009, 03:16 AM Pre, counted pa rin naman na idealist, albeit misplaced/naive ang idealism niya. I hate it when soldiers dabble in political exercises (they shouldn't be, they are armed.plus i don't want taxmoney spent on soldiers shooting soldiers), but nonetheless, he acted in what he thought was right.
I think what he fought for during Cory's time was the sentiment that Cory's admin was left leaning. Such was the situation of Cory's admin that it was too leftist for the military, and too Pro-US for the leftists.
LP will call them idealist now that he is on their side, but before they are branded as rebels, coup plotters, destabilizer, suddenly they are now idealist band of armed group.
realinsanepinoy 12-08-2009, 05:34 AM Plus, Gibo's ratings are dismal, so its a moot point.
Again, the way it is looking right now it is Villar vs Noynoy.
When Ramos barely won he was also always behind the ratings but with Puno's magic he won. So with Puno at his side and his party's machinery anything can happen. He also has his mentor and uncle's support just ask chiz.
Akinapepemo 12-08-2009, 09:47 AM When Ramos barely won he was also always behind the ratings but with Puno's magic he won. So with Puno at his side and his party's machinery anything can happen. He also has his mentor and uncle's support just ask chiz.
Sabagay, sofar lahat ng nanalo (Ramos, Erap, GMA) gumamit ng Puno power. Pero this time Puno will have to work overtime, anlaki masyado ng deficit unlike when GMA was running.
rpogi 12-08-2009, 09:56 AM Noynoy and LP never courted Erap, it was Erap who hatched the idea that oppositions must unite so that they will have a better chance of defeating the CORRUPT ADMINISTRATION's anointed lap dog who is Gibo. It was a good idea only if LP will not succumb to the demands of Erap which LP eventually turned down.
2010 presidential election indeed is a battle between good and evil. Gloria's ticket as the tyrants and the oppressed Filipinos represented by Noynoy.
I can't understand the logic of Filipinos who would vote for Gibo, everybody knows that he will be indebted to the corrupt Gloria if wins the presidency. We all know that its the stolen funds from the coffers of the government fueling Gibo's presidential campaign. So why would we still choose to vote for this person?
As DND chief, Gibo also spent its funds for his media advertisement, true story.
LP courted erap, erap courted LP same banana you dont deal with a convicted plunderer if you publicly denounce GMA as corrupt, evil etc. LP should walk their talk.
I will vote for GIBO based on his resume, credentials which i personally feel is way better than NOY. As i have said i put out of the equation the "malinis" issue as i have explained it in my previous post.
rpogi 12-08-2009, 10:03 AM Sabagay, sofar lahat ng nanalo (Ramos, Erap, GMA) gumamit ng Puno power. Pero this time Puno will have to work overtime, anlaki masyado ng deficit unlike when GMA was running.
GIBO closing in on the gap based on this poll compared the last time Pinoy Lounge made a similar poll. :boxing:
Maybe evil GMA and his cohorts are here and pushing GIBO up.
Akinapepemo 12-08-2009, 10:04 AM LP will call them idealist now that he is on their side, but before they are branded as rebels, coup plotters, destabilizer, suddenly they are now idealist band of armed group.
Common practice yan. Similar thing happened when Erap was getting popular again after being ousted for some time. those who called him plunderer on the final days of his presidency were suddenly seeking his endorsement. You wouldn't hear anything bad about Erap from Loren right now and it makes one wonder why she wept when the impeachment got derailed. Same with Villar.
Matindi din yung sa senate slate ni Villar, may elements ng left ( Satur, etc.) tapos nandun si Bongbong.
Bottom line is, they'll do it as long as it gets more votes.
I am not condoning that practice, pero ganyan talaga nangyayari, di lang LP, lahat yan.
sidenote: dun ako nadidismaya kay Noynoy, with his popularity, he does not need to align himself with everybody, mamili naman siya, sigurado kasing hihingi ng favors lahat yan after.
rpogi 12-08-2009, 10:15 AM Common practice yan. Similar thing happened when Erap was getting popular again after being ousted for some time. those who called him plunderer on the final days of his presidency were suddenly seeking his endorsement. You wouldn't hear anything bad about Erap from Loren right now and it makes one wonder why she wept when the impeachment got derailed. Same with Villar.
Matindi din yung sa senate slate ni Villar, may elements ng left ( Satur, etc.) tapos nandun si Bongbong.
Bottom line is, they'll do it as long as it gets more votes.
I am not condoning that practice, pero ganyan talaga nangyayari, di lang LP, lahat yan.
sidenote: dun ako nadidismaya kay Noynoy, with his popularity, he does not need to align himself with everybody, mamili naman siya, sigurado kasing hihingi ng favors lahat yan after.
on your sidenote bro, same sentiments here. Lahat ng kandidato me hidden agenda and will do everything to get votes. Walang malinis sa pulitika natin. Sad but true.
and to NOYNOY you are what you do and not what you say
plolglolglolp 12-08-2009, 08:23 PM kahit na sabihing malinis nga c noynoy at hindi mangungurakot, hahayaan nya parin ang mga malapit sa kanya na gumawa ng hindi maganda. he's such a nice guy.sobrang bait.hahaha
PrtyBoyDlicious 12-09-2009, 12:24 AM Dude if you're one of the candidates for the President, I swear I'll vote for you as long as you appoint me as the Secretary of the Treasury. I'll make sure all federal money will be safe in my wallet.
You are the one that we Filipinos are looking for, straightforward, to the point knowledge of Philippine history and most of all you're appointing yours truly as a cabinet member. :D
You cannot vote, you're an American citizen. :D
PrtyBoyDlicious 12-09-2009, 12:41 AM LP courted erap, erap courted LP same banana you dont deal with a convicted plunderer if you publicly denounce GMA as corrupt, evil etc. LP should walk their talk.
I will vote for GIBO based on his resume, credentials which i personally feel is way better than NOY. As i have said i put out of the equation the "malinis" issue as i have explained it in my previous post.
Don't waste your vote for Gibo. Don't fall for the hype. :D
Gibo and Mayweather Jr has one thing in common, both are master illusionists.
Floyd claimed his resume is immaculate, same as Gibo. But the reality is they are both products of hype machine.
SalSanchez 12-09-2009, 12:47 AM What has Gibo done for the Philippines for him to be elected as president?
Pareho rin ang itatanong ko sau ano na ba nagawa ni Noynoy sa pinas??Aside sa pagiging anak ni cory at ninoy??ipapakita mo ung mga bills na pinasa nya?? King ina mas marami pang napasang bills si Lito Lapid eh :rofl::rofl:
PrtyBoyDlicious 12-09-2009, 12:56 AM How i wish it were that simple.
the situation reminds me of GMA vs FPJ. while not a perfect comparison, people then were scared of what would happen if x won, so some settled for voting for the not so favorable option in y.
...Gibo is as much of a GMA lapdog as Noynoy is burdened with competency issues. Walang faultess sa candidates, its a matter of which issues matter most to the voter.
That's how simple it is, don't over analyze it.
A vote for Gibo is a vote for evil Gloria. That should be the #1 issue the voters need to weigh on before casting their votes, "Should I vote evil or Noynoy?". :D
PrtyBoyDlicious 12-09-2009, 12:58 AM Pareho rin ang itatanong ko sau ano na ba nagawa ni Noynoy sa pinas??Aside sa pagiging anak ni cory at ninoy??ipapakita mo ung mga bills na pinasa nya?? King ina mas marami pang napasang bills si Lito Lapid eh :rofl::rofl:
Puking ina mo rin wag kang magmumura!
Keith Richards 12-09-2009, 12:59 AM who will most of filipino-american vote?
PrtyBoyDlicious 12-09-2009, 01:02 AM Pareho rin ang itatanong ko sau ano na ba nagawa ni Noynoy sa pinas??Aside sa pagiging anak ni cory at ninoy??ipapakita mo ung mga bills na pinasa nya?? King ina mas marami pang napasang bills si Lito Lapid eh :rofl::rofl:
Eh ano rin ang nagawa ni Gibo, Villar, Gordon at iba pa sa Pinas?
At least si Noynoy mataas ang pedigree. Father=Hero, Mother=Symbol of Philippine Democracy
PrtyBoyDlicious 12-09-2009, 01:13 AM Noynoy, Pacman top local Google search
http://technology.inquirer.net/infotech/infotech/view/20091208-240886/Noynoy-Pacman-top-local-Google-search
Mayweather, Gibo tops the hype job. :D
Keith Richards 12-09-2009, 01:14 AM does noynoy speak fluent chinese?
tesla_power 12-09-2009, 01:33 AM Don't waste your vote for Gibo. Don't fall for the hype. :D
Gibo and Mayweather Jr has one thing in common, both are master illusionists.
Floyd claimed his resume is immaculate, same as Gibo. But the reality is they are both products of hype machine.
hahaha. You are really a Noynoy supporter pre. Good luck kay Noynoy then. I'd still go with Gibo for now. I agree on most of his points in Harapan and Isang Tanong (GMA and ABS-CBN presidential forums). I do not really factor much their resume as both Gibo or Noynoy did not do much IMO. If we go by pure executive resume, my vote would go to Gordon (2nd choice now). He is also good in addressing questions in said forums. My vote will go to whoever could convince me that they are capable of resurrecting our country. And if the current lines will still be drawn come May, I'd vote for Gibo and 2nd choice would be Gordon.
rpogi 12-09-2009, 02:28 AM Noynoy, Pacman top local Google search
http://technology.inquirer.net/infotech/infotech/view/20091208-240886/Noynoy-Pacman-top-local-Google-search
Mayweather, Gibo tops the hype job. :D
The reason why noynoy top this search is most online pinoys was hoping they could find something significant Noy has done for us. And they were disappointed to find none. They cant believe it cause NOY was the son of a hero, so they repeated their seach over and over again.:boxing:
hotshoes 12-09-2009, 02:47 AM noynoys greatest achivement is coming out of his mothers womb
Keith Richards 12-09-2009, 03:03 AM noynoys greatest achivement is coming out of his mothers womb
who you want to vote?
AIR_KENG 12-09-2009, 03:21 AM I would have picked Francis Escudero over all the current candidates. I remember him saying something like 'Hindi po ito nakabase kung sa Administrayon o Oposisyon ka nabibilang, ang mahalaga ay kung makikinabang ang mamamayan Pilipino.' Too bad he's deemed 'too young' to run a country.
tesla_power 12-09-2009, 05:20 AM I would have picked Francis Escudero over all the current candidates. I remember him saying something like 'Hindi po ito nakabase kung sa Administrayon o Oposisyon ka nabibilang, ang mahalaga ay kung makikinabang ang mamamayan Pilipino.' Too bad he's deemed 'too young' to run a country.
With all due respect to Escudero, he suddenly disappeared after being elected to senator then mysteriously appeared late 2009. He have a huge fanbase amongst the youngsters but I hope I can hear him say something our political and economic issues.
I like impromptu answers and debate to gauge the candidates more than anything. It mirrors how they think and not how good their advisers are.
Akinapepemo 12-09-2009, 12:41 PM With all due respect to Escudero, he suddenly disappeared after being elected to senator then mysteriously appeared late 2009. He have a huge fanbase amongst the youngsters but I hope I can hear him say something our political and economic issues.
I like impromptu answers and debate to gauge the candidates more than anything. It mirrors how they think and not how good their advisers are.
Personally i don't like Escudero for claiming to distance himself from traditional politics in favor of change while at the same time approaching certain people in Mindanao who do the very things he claims he's against.
But then again every politico does this, nataon lang alam ko yung sa kanya.
So judging him by his performance instead and not by his character, Tesla Power is right. Chiz got his exposure pounding on GMA (his godmother) every freaking time. When he got elected he significantly toned down his activity and only recently started again dahil kailangan ng boto.
Akinapepemo 12-09-2009, 12:42 PM OT: The presidentiables keep on mentioning how their Presidency will be so much unlike GMA's. I get that its what gets the votes. People are sick of the admin, period. But...as a voter, i would like to know how they will go about making this country better. I hate motherhood statements kasi.
They promise to go after corruption. who wouldn't?
they promise jobs. how? Will they industrialize the country further or work on our strength in agriculture? Opinion nila sa free trade? Land reform?
Will they finally push for working laws and regulations that have been demanded in the constitution since 1987 ( ex: anti-dynasty) thereby strengthening it, or would they re-write the constitution instead?
If the filipinos really want change, we should scrutinize the next leader beyond his plans for GMA.
Di pwede tulad ni erap na buong presidency niya puro blame sa previous admin ang ginawa.
hotshoes 12-09-2009, 04:54 PM who you want to vote?
gibo syempre.gordon sana ako peroparang matatalo lang eh kaya gibo nalang
al22tec 12-09-2009, 07:16 PM OT: The presidentiables keep on mentioning how their Presidency will be so much unlike GMA's. I get that its what gets the votes. People are sick of the admin, period. But...as a voter, i would like to know how they will go about making this country better. I hate motherhood statements kasi.
They promise to go after corruption. who wouldn't?
they promise jobs. how? Will they industrialize the country further or work on our strength in agriculture? Opinion nila sa free trade? Land reform?
Will they finally push for working laws and regulations that have been demanded in the constitution since 1987 ( ex: anti-dynasty) thereby strengthening it, or would they re-write the constitution instead?
If the filipinos really want change, we should scrutinize the next leader beyond his plans for GMA.
Di pwede tulad ni erap na buong presidency niya puro blame sa previous admin ang ginawa.
Sakto ka pare ko!!!
Keith Richards 12-09-2009, 09:27 PM gibo syempre.gordon sana ako peroparang matatalo lang eh kaya gibo nalang
do you worry of his involvement with the arroyos?
hotshoes 12-09-2009, 10:49 PM do you worry of his involvement with the arroyos?
nope. gibo is gibo, gloria is gloria. di lang sya tumakwil kay gloria kasi sa kanyang loyalty
rpogi 12-10-2009, 12:11 AM nope. gibo is gibo, gloria is gloria. di lang sya tumakwil kay gloria kasi sa kanyang loyalty
Agree.
Its a political spin on the part of the opposition to take away the votes from GIBO as GMA is very unpopular. As much as i dont like GMA either my vote will still go to GIBO.
Wolverine_ 12-12-2009, 02:16 AM :newbie:
:damnit: Noy noy palaboy
Si Noynoy :?!:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z134/vincent_frances/ligosabasura.jpg
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/2750/gordonbayanitransformer.jpg\
ito pa :lol::la:
tanibanana 01-12-2010, 04:10 AM Gusto ko sana Dick Gordon kasi man of action & results parang si Bayani Fernando; kaya lang mukang mahina ang laban, kaya pupunta na lang ako sa second choice ko, Noynoy Aquino..
Pero kung malakas ang laban ni Gordon sa paglapit ng Mayo, mag-Gordon ako.
At sa bise presidente, Bayani Fernando ang first choice ko at second choice naman si Jejomar Binay..
flipside 01-12-2010, 10:16 AM I would have picked Francis Escudero over all the current candidates. I remember him saying something like 'Hindi po ito nakabase kung sa Administrayon o Oposisyon ka nabibilang, ang mahalaga ay kung makikinabang ang mamamayan Pilipino.' Too bad he's deemed 'too young' to run a country.
yang sinabi ni chiz na yan mtgal ng slogan sa gapo tol. we dont need a change of men we need a change in men.
flipside 01-12-2010, 10:16 AM gibo syempre.gordon sana ako peroparang matatalo lang eh kaya gibo nalang
mali yang gnyang attitude tol.
flipside 01-12-2010, 10:28 AM mali yang gnyang attitude tol.
ang iboboto ko si gordon at si bayani.
unang una pngalan nila dick at bayani.lol
these two candidates are proven. mayor pa lang ng olongapo si gordon e tumutulong tlga at may political will to do what's right. sa senate e di din nman pipitsugin at visible.
si bayani ay proven din na may political will at makikita nman natin kung ano ang nagawa niya para sa marikina. ang MMDA mas mdaming nagwa nung panahon niya at hindi takot gawin ang makakabuti sa nkakarami.
si noynoy ayaw ko dahil panot.lol joke lang. d ako kumbinsido sa kakayanan ni noynoy sabi ko nga si manny villar sipag at tiyaga, si gibo galing at talino si noynoy nanay at tatay.lol. noynoy looks like a ***** and might be a ***** when president. gordon may be gay but he aint a *****.lol
si villar d ako kumbinsido sa storya nya dahil nagasawa din nman ng mayaman yan kya yumaman ng husto. pangalawa d ba may bangko din dati si villar na nagsara ala legacy bank? hmmm.
si gibo naman mukhang magaling kya nga lang e nkakabit kay GMA.
si erap delusional na madidisqualify din yan
si jamby may pagka ganid i.e. naghahabol ng mana ng d makasama sa will ng knyang tita
si bro. eddie no comment
si perlas mukhang sincere kya lang sa pinas kelngan medyo sikat ka
si jc de los reyes ng kapatiran medyo may delusional din
host: ano gagawin mo sa first 100 days mo is ma elect ka as pres.
jc: mag reretreat ako. lol! wtf!
sa vp ayaw ko si mar dahil in case mamatay si noynoy at maging pres. siya e si korina ang first lady. hell ****ing no.
si binay d din ako bilib kahit sino nman ilagay mo sa mkati e tlgang maunlad yun.
si edu.lolololololololol!
Mares 01-12-2010, 10:33 AM Turn on TV, hear this: si villar ang tunay na mahirap, si villar tunay na may malasakit.... , repeat again over 9000x. :rofl:
flipside 01-12-2010, 10:37 AM Turn on TV, hear this: si villar ang tunay na mahirap, si villar tunay na may malasakit.... , repeat again over 9000x. :rofl:
nakita mo braso nya? looks like ****. id expect it na ung arms nya parang arms ng kargador at labas ang mga ugat with all the hardwork to get them billions.lol
Ahkil® 01-12-2010, 03:03 PM Villar...
One time ako nakapasok sa Mansion ni Mrs Villar (wife of Manny Villar), nagpasama ang barkada ko pagkuha ng Clearance para sa business sa Las Pinas,, at nakita ko direct nakakalapit sa kanila ang mga mahihirap buhat pa sa ibat-ibang dako ng pinas, yung iba galing pa ng Hospital, mga walang pambayad. nakakabilib kahit hindi election period ay patuloy ang pagtulong sa kapwa.. nde gaya ng ibang politiko, pagkatapos ng eleksyon magkakalimutan na lang ng ipinangako
Akinapepemo 01-12-2010, 03:20 PM gibo syempre.gordon sana ako peroparang matatalo lang eh kaya gibo nalang
mali yang gnyang attitude tol.
Tama si Flipside, without being preachy, go for who you feel is the best choice, huwag i-compromise dahil sa winnability.
I almost voted GMA for fear of FPJ winning the presidency, almost voted for her since my personal choice was way behind in ratings.
Ayun, kapag may ginagawa si this will do since he's winnable candidate, tapos nagsisisi yung iba, iniisip ko, 'tangna di ko binoto 'yan.
Akinapepemo 01-12-2010, 03:26 PM si binay d din ako bilib kahit sino nman ilagay mo sa mkati e tlgang maunlad yun.
Totoo yan.
Mares 01-12-2010, 08:26 PM Villar...
One time ako nakapasok sa Mansion ni Mrs Villar (wife of Manny Villar), nagpasama ang barkada ko pagkuha ng Clearance para sa business sa Las Pinas,, at nakita ko direct nakakalapit sa kanila ang mga mahihirap buhat pa sa ibat-ibang dako ng pinas, yung iba galing pa ng Hospital, mga walang pambayad. nakakabilib kahit hindi election period ay patuloy ang pagtulong sa kapwa.. nde gaya ng ibang politiko, pagkatapos ng eleksyon magkakalimutan na lang ng ipinangako
that is a stupid way of helping a.k.a. erap pa pogi points style, villar is korakot di pa nga naka upo sa palayso korakot na yan.
Keith Richards 01-12-2010, 11:03 PM how about Efren Penaflorida?
Akinapepemo 01-13-2010, 12:27 AM how about Efren Penaflorida?
He'd be better off to Social Welfare or Education.
chef_jjb 01-13-2010, 12:49 AM how about Efren Penaflorida?
if he enters politics, he may as well stop his kariton's cause.
goodwill and politics don't match...
on another note... if he wins Angel Locsin's heart, damn...
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Keith Richards 01-13-2010, 01:00 AM He'd be better off to Social Welfare or Education.
appreciate the repply
if he enters politics, he may as well stop his kariton's cause.
goodwill and politics don't match...
on another note... if he wins Angel Locsin's heart, damn...
is angle locsin single?
chef_jjb 01-13-2010, 01:04 AM appreciate the repply
is angle locsin single?
Angel Locsin is single and unattached right now...
as i heard....
why do you ask?
would you try to ask her for a date?
:D
LeeVanCleef 01-13-2010, 01:19 AM Used to like Noynoy, but Nono longer because of Kris.
Villar is something, like a Gloria-Erap fusioned avatar. Ugh.
GIBO needs to catch-up, A LOT, hindi lahat ng panalo sa debate o magagandang speeches (o asawa!) lang.
Erap. Ah. Eh. Rapped?
Jamby? GTFO.
Bro. Eddie V? GTFO of the country...and take Pastor James666 with you.
Other candidates: MEH-Ganon?
I say no more to bull**** politics or bureaucratic horsetrading. Alam na natin we need more than just talk till the issue dies.
Keith Richards 01-13-2010, 01:28 AM Angel Locsin is single and unattached right now...
as i heard....
why do you ask?
would you try to ask her for a date?
:D
shes not my type..................... :D
jk
Used to like Noynoy, but Nono longer because of Kris.
Villar is something, like a Gloria-Erap fusioned avatar. Ugh.
GIBO needs to catch-up, A LOT, hindi lahat ng panalo sa debate o magagandang speeches (o asawa!) lang.
Erap. Ah. Eh. Rapped?
Jamby? GTFO.
Bro. Eddie V? GTFO of the country...and take Pastor James666 with you.
Other candidates: MEH-Ganon?
I say no more to bull**** politics or bureaucratic horsetrading. Alam na natin we need more than just talk till the issue dies.
whats bro. eddie's political idea?
chef_jjb 01-13-2010, 01:33 AM Used to like Noynoy, but Nono longer because of Kris.
Villar is something, like a Gloria-Erap fusioned avatar. Ugh.
GIBO needs to catch-up, A LOT, hindi lahat ng panalo sa debate o magagandang speeches (o asawa!) lang.
Erap. Ah. Eh. Rapped?
Jamby? GTFO.
Bro. Eddie V? GTFO of the country...and take Pastor James666 with you.
Other candidates: MEH-Ganon?
I say no more to bull**** politics or bureaucratic horsetrading. Alam na natin we need more than just talk till the issue dies.
whatcha-gonna-do then?
Akinapepemo 01-13-2010, 01:40 AM whatcha-gonna-do then?
He's gonna back James307's Presidential bid with TheVillageIdiot as his V.P. :D
chef_jjb 01-13-2010, 01:51 AM He's gonna back James307's Presidential bid with TheVillageIdiot as his V.P. :D
nah... come on pepe, that suggestion sucks...
how about you? whatcha-gonna-do then???
Akinapepemo 01-13-2010, 02:08 AM May nag-point out na nakakita siya ng sincerity with a certain presidentiable regarding helping out our countrymen who are suffering from poverty through dole-outs.
While it is all well and good to help, pakiusap lang, please don't make this as a basis for choosing a candidate, the Presidency is much more than a charity.
Dole-outs are standard practice of all politicians btw, and i highly doubt a lot of them will still do this if it were done anonymously.
Halimbawa na lang yung members of both chambers of congress. May nagbabayad ng hospital bills, bigay ng bigas, donations, etc. making the masses believe, that politicos are doing this out of charity and out of their own pocket.
That is dead wrong. The bulk of the money they spend is from the Priority Development Assistance Fund, AKA Pork Barrel. Basically they are funds allotted for development of each member of Congress' constituency. ( makes sense for congressmen, pero isipin niyo, may constituents ba ang Senators? wala. so saan napunta ang pork nila? pangampanya :D )
Bottom line, these funds are:
-not for dole-outs, rather, for development sila.
-not from their pockets
-it is their duty to dispense it
Kaya next time na mabigyan ka ng tulong ng candidate, hindi thank you, you're so kind, dapat 'tangna, dapat lang pera ko yan e.
Note: Kapag ang pork barrel ay spent on 'aid' rather than big projects at infrastructure, barya lang natatanggap mo 'wag kang matutuwa :D
LeeVanCleef 01-13-2010, 07:00 AM He's gonna back James307's Presidential bid with TheVillageIdiot as his V.P. :D
JAMES666 is going nowhere. He likes to troll here at Penoy Lounge.
Akinapepemo 01-13-2010, 07:11 AM nah... come on pepe, that suggestion sucks...
how about you? whatcha-gonna-do then???
At this point, none of the presidential candidates get my vote, si Erap, jamby, at yung ilang nuisance candidates pa lang at Brother Eddie ang sure na hindi ko iboboto. May is still a few months away, lalabas at lalabas ang baho nilang lahat.
Siguro i will lean towards a candidate with a specific platform, not one riddled with motherhood statements, contrast that with his track recordkung may idea ba siya nung pinagsasabi niya, and finally, see who are the people that surround him.
rocky_balboa23 01-13-2010, 07:35 AM nung una, i was inclined ke Villar. but then, knowing how brilliant Gibo Teodoro is especially with the debates and of course the ondoy-pepeng incidents where he actively is visible with his role. but when the maguindanao massacre took place and his initial press con is to kick the ampatuans out of their political party, that turned me off and inclined on villar again.
but then surprisingly, Gordon-Fernando tandem came into the picture. 2 results-oriented guys, 2 action man who gets in ground zero and do their stuffs. some say that they are dictators but that's just what the country needs right now, someone with firm hands. isa pa, tong dalawang to galit sa tamad :D but really, you have to hear Gordon's mission-vision in order to appreciate him more. he believes the turnaround for the philippines would take at least 20years to be a 1st world country, and he is pushing for continuoum of the vision and is hoping to lead the way to that progress. ok enough, alam ko me ibang ayaw dito ke Gordon, hehehe. ang mahalaga lang is to evaluate intelligently kung sino iboto so to each his own :D
pre galing mo mag udyok..cge kay Gordon na din ako..besides, friend to ng uncle ko so Gordon na..:boxing:
chef_jjb 01-13-2010, 08:19 PM At this point, none of the presidential candidates get my vote, si Erap, jamby, at yung ilang nuisance candidates pa lang at Brother Eddie ang sure na hindi ko iboboto. May is still a few months away, lalabas at lalabas ang baho nilang lahat.
Siguro i will lean towards a candidate with a specific platform, not one riddled with motherhood statements, contrast that with his track record kung may idea ba siya nung pinagsasabi niya, and finally, see who are the people that surround him.
thanks sa reply pepe. i think you are right, and i admit, i like your "strategy" or whatever you may call it, sa pagpili ng iboboto. too bad we just have to choose from the ones comelec deemed "qualified". if by start of May di pa din ako bilib or convinced ng candidates, then i shall choose the "least evil" of them... hahaha...
i may adapt the same way you do. inclined towards noynoy/gibo, pero May is still months away, ika nga, so marami pang maaaring magbago, ma-expose, mapaparatangan at magsisinungaling... hehehe...
i'll wait and see...
flipside 01-14-2010, 07:53 AM At this point, none of the presidential candidates get my vote, si Erap, jamby, at yung ilang nuisance candidates pa lang at Brother Eddie ang sure na hindi ko iboboto. May is still a few months away, lalabas at lalabas ang baho nilang lahat.
Siguro i will lean towards a candidate with a specific platform, not one riddled with motherhood statements, contrast that with his track recordkung may idea ba siya nung pinagsasabi niya, and finally, see who are the people that surround him.
gordon and bayani has specific programs already :D
Mares 01-14-2010, 08:16 AM si villar ang tunay na mahirap, si villar ang tunay na may malaksakit, si villar ang maykakayanan na gumawa ng sariling pangalan, siii mannnny villaaaarrr ang magsisimula ng engrande korakotataaannnnn!!!! :rofl:
Akinapepemo 01-14-2010, 12:13 PM si villar ang tunay na mahirap, si villar ang tunay na may malaksakit, si villar ang maykakayanan na gumawa ng sariling pangalan, siii mannnny villaaaarrr ang magsisimula ng engrande korakotataaannnnn!!!! :rofl:
Aargh! langya ka, LSS tuloy! :crazy:
May subliminal message ata ang jingles niya...:thinking:
Akinapepemo 01-14-2010, 02:07 PM Medyo OT:
Huwag din natin kalimutan ang Senatorial line-up na iboboto natin ha. 12 din yun, mahirap nang bumoto ng random sa 12th dahil 11 lang ang kilala, dapat kilatisin pa rin :D
Mas importante iboto sa Senate ang marunong sa batas as it is a Legislative post, and not expertise in PR events called investigations.
Ok naman mag-investigate sila, but i feel they have overdone this aspect of their office to the extent that i think the masses may mistake the senate as a judicial and investigatory body first, rather than a legislative body.
I for one, would like to see more debates on critical bills than endless investigations. Sure investigations do bring to light the many ills of gov't and society in general, but too much time spent on these, and so little time devoted to debating the merits of a bill will result in inferior laws being signed most of the time.
Ayaw ko ng senador na 6 na taon nakaupo pero sa huli ang naipasa lang ay ang pagbawal ng staple wire sa food packaging.
Ahkil® 01-14-2010, 02:13 PM that is a stupid way of helping a.k.a. erap pa pogi points style, villar is korakot di pa nga naka upo sa palayso korakot na yan.
at least nakikinabang yung ibang tao..
e yung ibang politiko magpapayaman pa lang,,
si villar magdadagdag lang ng konting yaman...
Akinapepemo 01-14-2010, 02:35 PM at least nakikinabang yung ibang tao..
e yung ibang politiko magpapayaman pa lang,,
si villar magdadagdag lang ng konting yaman...
I don't hate Villar but his relentless advertising makes one wonder what will he do if he wins. will he recoup his expenditures or just brush them off? Plus is he campaigning within the legal limits of expenditure?
I hope you won't take this as an attack on Villar, since he's not the only one riddled with these questions.
Akinapepemo 01-17-2010, 04:00 PM si villar ang tunay na mahirap, si villar ang tunay na may malaksakit, si villar ang maykakayanan na gumawa ng sariling pangalan, siii mannnny villaaaarrr ang magsisimula ng engrande korakotataaannnnn!!!! :rofl:
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g297/jhacesting/19370_1223333056177_1014486139_3055.jpg
rpogi 01-19-2010, 09:52 AM a good read for NOyNoy Supporter. Is his family really clean as he claims it is..
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/181877/hacienda-luisitas-past-haunts-noynoys-future
Ahkil® 01-20-2010, 03:19 AM here's my complete comments to all candidates who will run for president
click here (http://lastbassmaster.blogspot.com/2010/01/sino-ang-dapat-iboto-presidential.html)
i grab also some comments from boxingscene, kaya wag kayo magtataka kung comments nyo ang napasama.. tnx
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r382/lastbassmaster/eleksyon2010.jpg (http://lastbassmaster.blogspot.com/2010/01/sino-ang-dapat-iboto-presidential.html)
SLIMZ 01-21-2010, 07:39 AM i'd picked teodoro if i'll ever have a chance to vote...chaddy was right, gibo is very bright.
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