View Full Version : What's next for Green?


Philfy
12-03-2009, 09:04 PM
Great win by Danny over Jones Jr. I didn't think he would do it, but I thought he had an outside chance. Well he took that chance, and has now launched himself onto the international scene. Now everybody knows who Danny Green is. Where does he go from here?

Betdwn
12-03-2009, 09:53 PM
Chad Dawson was willing to move up but the Green camp have not shown any interest in the fight.

cace
12-03-2009, 10:51 PM
i hope he doesnt, but i think he will go back to fighting bums
id like to see him chase the big names overseas, but i think the best opponent he will face until he retires again will be mundine. or a fight with bika which could be very entertaining

Machine Gunz
12-04-2009, 03:48 PM
LHW champ, Chad Dawson and his promoter have reached out to Green and offered to fight Green here in Aus, but Green claimed Dawson isn't a big enough name - Dawson has beaten former LHW and cruiser titlist Tomasz Adamek, Antonio Tarver twice and Glen Johnson twice, Dawson is a name in the US,

Good on Green for opting not to fight Dawson, as Dawson is a super slick, very quick handed southpaw who would tear Green apart.

Mundine already gave Green a boxing leason and won a UD, so forget that rematch, it wasn't like green/mundine was a close fight.

So who will Green fight?

brently1979
12-04-2009, 06:02 PM
LHW champ, Chad Dawson and his promoter have reached out to Green and offered to fight Green here in Aus, but Green claimed Dawson isn't a big enough name - Dawson has beaten former LHW and cruiser titlist Tomasz Adamek, Antonio Tarver twice and Glen Johnson twice, Dawson is a name in the US,

Good on Green for opting not to fight Dawson, as Dawson is a super slick, very quick handed southpaw who would tear Green apart.

Mundine already gave Green a boxing leason and won a UD, so forget that rematch, it wasn't like green/mundine was a close fight.

So who will Green fight?

There isn't more real big names up there to be honest. I think a Dawson fight would be a respectable fight for Green.

He could even try to go up to Heavy maybe.

Philfy
12-04-2009, 06:11 PM
There isn't more real big names up there to be honest. I think a Dawson fight would be a respectable fight for Green.

He could even try to go up to Heavy maybe.

Whilst a respectable fight, Dawson is a long way removed from the Roy Jones that Green beat. It'd be great if Dawson did come down under, but I cannot see any possible way Green could win that fight. It wouldn't be a good look starching Jones and then being schooled over 12 in your next fight. Green would be wise to steer clear of Dawson.

I'm sure Green would be able to bait Johnson or Tarver into coming out here. They'd be entertaining fights to watch.

brently1979
12-04-2009, 06:12 PM
Whilst a respectable fight, Dawson is a long way removed from the Roy Jones that Green beat. It'd be great if Dawson did come down under, but I cannot see any possible way Green could win that fight. It wouldn't be a good look starching Jones and then being schooled over 12 in your next fight. Green would be wise to steer clear of Dawson.

I'm sure Green would be able to bait Johnson or Tarver into coming out here. They'd be entertaining fights to watch.

Yeah I'd go again.

classicbuzzbox
12-05-2009, 09:33 AM
Whilst a respectable fight, Dawson is a long way removed from the Roy Jones that Green beat. It'd be great if Dawson did come down under, but I cannot see any possible way Green could win that fight. It wouldn't be a good look starching Jones and then being schooled over 12 in your next fight. Green would be wise to steer clear of Dawson.

I'm sure Green would be able to bait Johnson or Tarver into coming out here. They'd be entertaining fights to watch.

I'd definantly rate Green fighting Tarver over Dawson. As others have said, Dawson's schooling of Adamek doesn't bode well Green.

As for Green v Mundine, I don't think it's as easy as "he was beaten by a wide UD so he has no hope". Watching the old Green fights, I notice that Green was noticeably slower at supermiddle. I think being 6ft1", he spent far too long campaining at that weight as 76kg is just too light. I think his power then was overrated. Now he's moved up, I think he is quicker and his power almost legitimate one would say. Even so, I don't think he should put too much faith in it, even with the blowout win. I don't think his brand of power should be hyped too much and I hate it when fighters start to believe in hyped up power and plus there the problem with landing it.

Mundine is a terrible match up for Green, but so was RJJ. With more weight and being the smaller man, I wonder if Mundine will slow at a higher weight? I was surprised by how much larger than RJJ Green was and I don't think moving up is going to do Mundine any favours at all.

One thing I will say is surely both Green and Mundine can do better than fighting each other. I really don't think this fight offers much at the end of the day, beside effectively ending a career. Surely they can find bigger fish to fry.

skyler
12-06-2009, 01:55 PM
I'd definantly rate Green fighting Tarver over Dawson. As others have said, Dawson's schooling of Adamek doesn't bode well Green.

As for Green v Mundine, I don't think it's as easy as "he was beaten by a wide UD so he has no hope". Watching the old Green fights, I notice that Green was noticeably slower at supermiddle. I think being 6ft1", he spent far too long campaining at that weight as 76kg is just too light. I think his power then was overrated. Now he's moved up, I think he is quicker and his power almost legitimate one would say. Even so, I don't think he should put too much faith in it, even with the blowout win. I don't think his brand of power should be hyped too much and I hate it when fighters start to believe in hyped up power and plus there the problem with landing it.

Mundine is a terrible match up for Green, but so was RJJ. With more weight and being the smaller man, I wonder if Mundine will slow at a higher weight? I was surprised by how much larger than RJJ Green was and I don't think moving up is going to do Mundine any favours at all.

One thing I will say is surely both Green and Mundine can do better than fighting each other. I really don't think this fight offers much at the end of the day, beside effectively ending a career. Surely they can find bigger fish to fry.

Both fighers could and should of moved on to the bigger better things years ago, but they wasted all that time fighting bums in their hometowns..

They both had their chances to blow up big earlier in both their careers with Green Vs beyer.. Mundine vs Ottke.. both coming up short and they seem to be reluctant to go overseas to fight the big names ever since..

I think Mundine will just keep milking the money until he retires or gets put out by one of those cans he usually fights.. I actually see green chasing the bigger fights rather then just talking about them like Mundine always has.. and with a win over Roy hes confidence would be peeking to take on a top fighter.. Only trouble is a lot of the top guys would see green as easily beatable, but with hes KO ratio it will always make him that large risk for such a little reward, unless they are after the money and plan on travelling to Australia.

The thing is In Australia they are both already seen as stars and probably get payed just as much as if they were to fight in the States, so why travel when you can stay at home earn just as much money and beat up guys who are just there to make you look good.. and still have the whole of Australia thinking your one of the best fighters to ever exist.

I would actually like to see the Green v Mundine Rematch.. after defeating Jones jr... This would be another MEGA fight in Australia, and any fight that brings attention to boxing in Australia is a "good" one.. but what weight would they fight at? Mundines moved down a heap and Green moved up a heap... id say LHW but Mundine seems content at fighting at the lower weights..

I think the rematch wont be as onesided.. Mundine seems to be on the decline.. hes been in a lot of tough fights lately against the usual low level opposition when he should of destroyed them.. Green hasn't faced the much better opposition leading up to Jones, but at least hes knocking the bums he fights out..

Mundines and Greens pride is what will stop a rematch from happening.. Mundine still holds that win over Green and after all the trash talk and rivalry between the two and trying to prove whos the best Aussie fighter for all those years.. and when both there careers are long over Mundine is always going to able to say he backed up hes trash talk and I think he feels quite content with that.

I really don't think either guy could take losing to the other..
especially if all the hype and trash talk starts to begin.. after all the years of trashtalk and calling each otherout for Mundine to give Green a boxing lesson like that would of really hurt hes ego.. but then beating RJJ who he probably views as how Mundine wish he could fight could give him that confidence.

I still don't think Green can beat any of the top guys at the moment.. he's got the heart and power to always change the fight around.. but with the lack of name and always having that punches chance he's just to much risk for such little reward for the top guys to take on and a win over green wont mean much to them.

He doesn't bring enough money on the table over in the states and still wouldn't be much of a name over there.. as you can see just by reading NSB most Americans view him just as a bum.. like how we view all the Thais they bring in to fight our young aussie fighters..

If they both want to make the money it's going to have to happen in Australia and i think they will have a very had time doing so.. when you're at the top you're the one who gets to make demands and every fighter loves fighting in their hometown so unless the money is real good and Green can bait them to come to Australia..

Bernard wont travel to Australia so that wont happen, and really there's not much big names in the higher weight classes that the Australian public is going to recognise.. theres young guys like Dawson but all of them are all also looking for the bigger fights.

He will most likely have to settle with guys like Tarver or Johnson.. who still have that name but are no longer competing at their best or able to get the big fights to make the big bucks anymore.. and neither fighter has the status anymore to make outlandish demands so the fight could get made quite easily, if they are willing to travel.

Im sure If he can lure Roy to come out all the way to Australia and fight overseas for the first time there must be big money getting made to maybe entice some of the big names to take the trip down under.

Machine Gunz
12-06-2009, 02:53 PM
Seriously I would like to see the Green v Mundine Rematch.. after defeating Jones jr... This would be another MEGA fight in Australia, any fight thats\ brings attention to boxing in Australia is a good one.

I think the rematch wont be as onesided.. Mundine seems to be on the decline.. hes been in a lot of tough fights lately against the usual low level opposition when he should of destroyed them.. Green hasn't faced the much better opposition leading upto Jones, but at least hes knocking the bums he fights out.




a rematch would be a good fight for boxing in Aus and would make a lot of money, but it's not like their first fight was a split decision, Mundine destroyed Green and took him to school.

Mundine hasn't declined, he is just getting accustomed to the lower weight, we will make a judgment of Mundine after the fight in Jan with Medley

skyler
12-06-2009, 03:56 PM
a rematch would be a good fight for boxing in Aus and would make a lot of money, but it's not like their first fight was a split decision, Mundine destroyed Green and took him to school.

Mundine hasn't declined, he is just getting accustomed to the lower weight, we will make a judgment of Mundine after the fight in Jan with Medley

Yeah everyone knows Mundine flat out embarassed him.. but of course now that Danny has beat Jones and after all the weight problems he said he had.. people are going still to want to see if Mundine can do it again.. and the casual Aussie boxing fans now see Green as new and improved and as a "legend" in the higher weight classes.. and with Mundine not really having done much since I think a lot of people will give Green a chance.

Maybe he hasn't declined and maybe it could be the weight, at this stage of hes career and hes age dropping the weight could become a lot harder and take a lot out of you, but what's hes intention to drop all the weight it's not like he cant get a fight so hes dropping the weight to go after the bigger names, probably running out of bums to fight in hes division so hes probably going to do the same in the lower weight classes by proving nothing else except he beat up taxi drivers and every now and then take a small risk against a good domestic fighter.

I haven't seen most of hes recent fights because I refuse to pay $50 for a fight unless it's two top fighters going at it... I saw the Geale fight.. and I have always said that Mundine can't handle guys who have the constant pressure and aren't scared to take a few punches to give a few..

Mundine like doesn't seem to take any risks anymore, not only when he's in the ring fighting but even the fighters he chooses to fight.. he likes to fight in short bursts and keep it at a distance so when you bring the fight to him he has no choice to let hes hands go and he looks very uncomfortable doing so.

Geale really put it on him.. roughed him up and made it a fight which he just came up short in.. So now I see what Geale has done and what iv always thought about Mundine having trouble with affective pressure fighters.. then I think what a more technical sound fighter, with power behind hes punches who can keep Mundine on hes toes the whole fight could do to him..

Iv always expected a lot from Mundine especially after he beat Green.. and he really hasn't put on such a performance since.. struggled against low level opposition and was knocked down.. I don't think he even has the hunger anymore watching him when he first started even in the Ottke fight he had that killer instinct to try and knock you out, now he seems pretty contempt on going the distance rather then taking any risk and trying to put on a performance..

Philfy
12-07-2009, 12:18 AM
Mundine hasn't declined, he is just getting accustomed to the lower weight, we will make a judgment of Mundine after the fight in Jan with Medley

Mundine is a moron. I'm not sure if he realises, but there is a reason why fighters don't drop weight divisions as they age. He struggles to make 160 let alone 154 pounds. Let him do it at his own peril.

He will never become accustomed to the lower weights IMO. His best weight is around 166-168 pounds, where he still has some power. He has not KO'd anybody in over 2 years now.

Machine Gunz
12-08-2009, 03:56 PM
Yeah everyone knows Mundine flat out embarassed him.. but of course now that Danny has beat Jones and after all the weight problems he said he had.. people are going still to want to see if Mundine can do it again.. and the casual Aussie boxing fans now see Green as new and improved and as a "legend" in the higher weight classes.. and with Mundine not really having done much since I think a lot of people will give Green a chance.



Good point,

Mundine is a moron. I'm not sure if he realises, but there is a reason why fighters don't drop weight divisions as they age. He struggles to make 160 let alone 154 pounds. Let him do it at his own peril.

He will never become accustomed to the lower weights IMO. His best weight is around 166-168 pounds, where he still has some power. He has not KO'd anybody in over 2 years now.


If you've ever met Mundine in person, you'd know he isn't a moron, the mans actually a quite, down to earth guy as opposed to the showtime, sell ticket **** you see on TV and in the papers.


Hopefully Mundine goes back up to super middle after he becomes the first fighter in history to win 3 titles in 3 different weights classes by dropping down to lower divs.

Mundine was knocking guys out at smw. He does look very weak and weight drained at mw,

brently1979
12-08-2009, 07:15 PM
Good point,




If you've ever met Mundine in person, you'd know he isn't a moron, the mans actually a quite, down to earth guy as opposed to the showtime, sell ticket **** you see on TV and in the papers.


Hopefully Mundine goes back up to super middle after he becomes the first fighter in history to win 3 titles in 3 different weights classes by dropping down to lower divs.

Mundine was knocking guys out at smw. He does look very weak and weight drained at mw,


When did he win a title at middle weight?

Greatwhitehope
12-10-2009, 01:00 AM
I'd like to see Bika V Green, poor bastard never gets fights.

brently1979
12-10-2009, 02:25 PM
Mundine is a moron. I'm not sure if he realises, but there is a reason why fighters don't drop weight divisions as they age. He struggles to make 160 let alone 154 pounds. Let him do it at his own peril.

He will never become accustomed to the lower weights IMO. His best weight is around 166-168 pounds, where he still has some power. He has not KO'd anybody in over 2 years now.

You are 100% correct. It makes no sense what he's doing. Look at what happened to DLH.

Sadly he is a moron and lacks intel. Someone should point out to him that fighters usually move up in weight when they age.

Maybe someone did tell him but he just got it mixed up.

Seinfelddvd
12-11-2009, 01:58 AM
what is going on?:luvbed:

rosco 2
12-12-2009, 11:54 AM
i heard that green was going to the states to see if he can get together with bernard hopkins..is this true rosco 2

Dan...
12-13-2009, 05:41 PM
I just hope he takes on top fighters from this point rather to falling back on fighting bum after bum like he has for 95% of his career.