View Full Version : Anybody giving Sanchez a chance against BJ?


Rabbit ♠
12-02-2009, 03:49 PM
IMO I don't see anything that Sanchez has that will give BJ problems. Though I do think Diego is a dangerous opponent for anyone.

NYU Alum.
12-02-2009, 03:51 PM
Unless BJ gets old overnight. But, Sanchez is a game guy, so, he'll have his moments.

khepesh
12-02-2009, 04:56 PM
Not really. For me, BJ seems to be couple of steps ahead of all other fighters in the LW division. Technically sound on every aspect, good enough condition, great chin (it seems) and always calm.

I give Diego a slight punchers chance, but I predict BJ winning via tko/sub in 2nd or 3rd.

Spray_resistant
12-02-2009, 05:57 PM
I think Diego can win.......BJ has had problems with conditioning and Sanchez is going to be all over him and in great shape himself. I just can't see Diego breaking down mentally or giving up here.

kaps
12-02-2009, 06:13 PM
Maybe he'll win a decision like Randy did if he just lays against him on the fence for 5 rounds. Other than that, BJ has the edge in the stand up game as well as BJJ and takedown defence.....

DeltaSigChi4
12-02-2009, 06:47 PM
Yes.

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GroundSt.Pound
12-02-2009, 07:17 PM
What Sanchez has over BJ, IMO is Cardio and Pace. But BJ is very good at controlling the pace.

If Diego wins, like with all BJ opponents, it's going to be in the later rounds.

American_Ninja
12-02-2009, 07:57 PM
Sanchez has learned a lot. idk if he can beat BJ. We shall see.

vinnie7731
12-02-2009, 08:19 PM
i agree, diego will try and push the pace but bj is good at controlling his opponent. i think diego will put up a good fight but i dont see anyway he could beat bj. bj has better striking imo, and better ground work. the only way diego wins is if it goes into the later rounds and bj begins to get worn out. i hope bj wins cause i have never been a big fan of diego. although he is starting to grow on me a bit and i dont dislike him as much as i used to. he seems to be more respectful in his last couple of years fighting.

Stalaggh
12-02-2009, 08:40 PM
I do, he can win this fight and I'm rooting for him on this one

tocayito1
12-03-2009, 06:45 AM
bj wins by anything he wants at anytime he wants..sanchez has not looked as good since leaving greg jackson...bj is the most talented fighter ever in mma

Mickey Gomez
12-03-2009, 11:56 AM
Someone give me odds on Diego, he's 3:1 in the bookies.

Move BRICKS™
12-03-2009, 01:35 PM
Sanchez has to not be himself to defeat BJ. You cannot scrap with BJ.

kaps
12-03-2009, 02:53 PM
If Sanchez thinks he can stand with BJ he's gonna get beat up. I see the fight going alot like the BJ Florian fight, with Sanchez pressing BJ against the fence looking for takedowns most of every round...

Left2theliver
12-03-2009, 03:09 PM
here's what i see

Striking- Diego's improving, but he's wild. BJ's hands are so damn good. So BJ wins here.

Wrestling- Diego's got a legit wrestling game, but BJ's so hard to take down. So unless he can get BJ tired and then do it then there you go.

Submission- Diego's extremely good at this, but BJ's a world champ...big big difference.

Cardio- BJ's still a ? on this. Diego's a beast. That's all he's got.

All in all, the only way i can see Diego taking this is if he jumps on BJ and really makes him work. But, if he gets too wild he's gonna get caught. So yes, he has a chance, but i think BJ'll catch em.

Mozza
12-03-2009, 03:42 PM
I think Sanchez has a good chance but he's probably not disciplined enough to get a full vote of confidence.

Junito-Rulez
12-03-2009, 04:49 PM
Anybody can win at anytime but in this one, i don't see how Diego could Beat him. Diego's only advantages are conditionning, strength, heart and cardio.

Analyze:

With that said, i see the gap skills being too hard to overcome for Diego:
-Diego's striking is still too wild, too much wide punches and telegraphed kicks. BJ.'s boxing is probably the most complete in MMA. He can jab, block, throw combos and duck at times.

-Penn's jiujitsu is world class and he has been a world champ. Diego is a ADCC grappler but he can't finish BJ. All he can do is defend submission.

-Diego's wrestling is better but it's still not enough. It took GSP one round to take BJ down at 170 and GSP is hands down the best wrestler in MMA. Better than Fitch and Koscheck, and those too are much better than Diego too.


Conclusion
Diego can't take down BJ and if he does it, i don't see him beign effective on the ground.

Diego is mentally strong and won't quit. I see him gettin systematically beaten to the punch and losing a UD in a spirited effort.

However, those speculations are based on BJ's conditionning in his last fight. We don't know if he's still training that well.

Pork Chop
12-03-2009, 10:45 PM
i have a feeling this is going to be joe "daddy" part 2...

tocayito1
12-03-2009, 11:03 PM
Anybody can win at anytime but in this one, i don't see how Diego could Beat him. Diego's only advantages are conditionning, strength, heart and cardio.

Analyze:

With that said, i see the gap skills being too hard to overcome for Diego:
-Diego's striking is still too wild, too much wide punches and telegraphed kicks. BJ.'s boxing is probably the most complete in MMA. He can jab, block, throw combos and duck at times.

-Penn's jiujitsu is world class and he has been a world champ. Diego is a ADCC grappler but he can't finish BJ. All he can do is defend submission.

-Diego's wrestling is better but it's still not enough. It took GSP one round to take BJ down at 170 and GSP is hands down the best wrestler in MMA. Better than Fitch and Koscheck, and those too are much better than Diego too.


Conclusion
Diego can't take down BJ and if he does it, i don't see him beign effective on the ground.

Diego is mentally strong and won't quit. I see him gettin systematically beaten to the punch and losing a UD in a spirited effort.

However, those speculations are based on BJ's conditionning in his last fight. We don't know if he's still training that well.

conditioning and cardio are the same thing....hes not stronger than bj

and diego has a weak guard bj will finish him with his finisher...rear naked choke

GroundSt.Pound
12-04-2009, 01:07 AM
....hes not stronger than bj

That's not true

BOLLOCKS
12-04-2009, 01:25 AM
Blow Job????

tocayito1
12-04-2009, 04:13 AM
That's not true

it is very true

Junito-Rulez
12-04-2009, 10:27 AM
Blow Job????

lol Blowjob Penn vs Dirty Sanchez, that's a good name for a dirty **** movie.

Nodogoshi
12-04-2009, 11:24 AM
lol Blowjob Penn vs Dirty Sanchez, that's a good name for a dirty **** movie.
How 'bout "Dirty sanchez in the blowjob penn"

phallus
12-05-2009, 04:36 PM
Maybe he'll win a decision like Randy did if he just lays against him on the fence for 5 rounds. Other than that, BJ has the edge in the stand up game as well as BJJ and takedown defence.....

If Sanchez thinks he can stand with BJ he's gonna get beat up. I see the fight going alot like the BJ Florian fight, with Sanchez pressing BJ against the fence looking for takedowns most of every round...

sanchez is bigger and stronger, that's the only thing i can see. bj's hands are faster, his BJJ is better, sanchez might do better than florian did but then again because he's more aggro he might do worse - joe daddy part 2

M Deezy
12-07-2009, 04:44 AM
im goin for Diego. Penn is king in that division but im givin sanchez a chance.

MJ406
12-09-2009, 12:00 AM
if Penn tears through BJ, I have to wonder what's next

GroundSt.Pound
12-09-2009, 12:16 AM
it is very true

Diego is much Physically stronger than Penn and he will be bigger on fight night.

Reckoning
12-09-2009, 01:30 AM
Only way i see sanchez winning is if BJ overtrains, although sanchez pushes a fast pace if i remember correctly he made guida gas out somewhat in their fight.

BlueberryMuffin
12-09-2009, 06:52 AM
BJ cannot defeat the YES Cartwheel!!

It will run him over while going YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!

mrbigshot
12-09-2009, 08:06 AM
Anybody can win at anytime but in this one, i don't see how Diego could Beat him. Diego's only advantages are conditionning, strength, heart and cardio.

Analyze:

With that said, i see the gap skills being too hard to overcome for Diego:
-Diego's striking is still too wild, too much wide punches and telegraphed kicks. BJ.'s boxing is probably the most complete in MMA. He can jab, block, throw combos and duck at times.

-Penn's jiujitsu is world class and he has been a world champ. Diego is a ADCC grappler but he can't finish BJ. All he can do is defend submission.

-Diego's wrestling is better but it's still not enough. It took GSP one round to take BJ down at 170 and GSP is hands down the best wrestler in MMA. Better than Fitch and Koscheck, and those too are much better than Diego too.


Conclusion
Diego can't take down BJ and if he does it, i don't see him beign effective on the ground.

Diego is mentally strong and won't quit. I see him gettin systematically beaten to the punch and losing a UD in a spirited effort.

However, those speculations are based on BJ's conditionning in his last fight. We don't know if he's still training that well.

this is a great post, but i think penn will stop him though

Pork Chop
12-09-2009, 12:47 PM
I guess what I don't understand about guys saying that Diego has a shot because of his strength & conditioning is this:
is diego's strength OR conditioning on the level of Sean Sherk?
Matt Hughes?

heck, I think Joe Daddy's stronger than Diego, if he weren't so scared of losing he would've probably beaten Diego in his 155lb debut.
I don't think Diego has ANYTHING Penn hasn't seen before, on a higher level...

The only thing I'll give Diego is beating Nick Diaz who has a ground and stand up combination in the ballpark of Penn - but Diaz complained of greasing in the post fight interview after that fight (not waiting a week after for his brain to come up with excuses), which kind of invalidates it.

pugilistfan
12-09-2009, 04:46 PM
People who think Diego has a chance are just stupid and delusional.

No offense but there is literally nothing Diego does better than Penn. Diego wont last a decision.

jakkups
12-10-2009, 02:45 PM
People who think Diego has a chance are just stupid and delusional.

No offense but there is literally nothing Diego does better than Penn. Diego wont last a decision.

Exactly how I see it.

On the feet, BJ wins. On the ground BJ wins. In short, BJ wins.

dough401
12-10-2009, 05:03 PM
truthfully as much hype thats going on now i just wanna see a great fight bj is the best 155 ever but we have all seen bigger upsets then this... And what is sanchez thinking with his YES kartwheel ****in nut...lol

MBL
12-10-2009, 06:56 PM
I hope BJ wins but who knows anything can happen in this wierd sport

MJ406
12-10-2009, 08:51 PM
kinda torn as if BJ continues to win @ 155

it won't be long before he's back at 170 fighting GSP again

phallus
12-12-2009, 03:46 PM
Only way i see sanchez winning is if BJ overtrains, although sanchez pushes a fast pace if i remember correctly he made guida gas out somewhat in their fight.

BJ cannot defeat the YES Cartwheel!!

It will run him over while going YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!

sanchez is mentally stronger than penn, he could, in theory come back from a beating and stop penn. i don't think this will happen though. cus d'amato said the will always overcomes the skill, unless the gap in skills is very great. unfortunately, i think penn is right about dirty sanchez, that he's an overachiever and he shouldn't have made it this far. i'll laugh though, if dirty manages to beat bj


kinda torn as if BJ continues to win @ 155

it won't be long before he's back at 170 fighting GSP again

marv marinovich can't help bj that much, GSP will rape him again and probably stop him sooner next time

Pork Chop
12-13-2009, 01:12 AM
I need to start betting money on fight sports, esp UFC...
The last 2 events I coulda made decent cash...

kymira
12-13-2009, 10:00 AM
I need to start betting money on fight sports, esp UFC...
The last 2 events I coulda made decent cash...

Ive personally have had better luck w/ boxing. MMA can be so unpredictable at times. I still cant get over how much I lost 2 years ago when Mirco was KTFO by Gonzaga. Man was I sour for weeks.

Rabbit ♠
12-13-2009, 03:26 PM
Ive personally have had better luck w/ boxing. MMA can be so unpredictable at times. I still cant get over how much I lost 2 years ago when Mirco was KTFO by Gonzaga. Man was I sour for weeks.

Agreed. Boxing is alot easier to bet on. I've lost too many upsets on MMA.

Pork Chop
12-14-2009, 12:42 AM
Ive personally have had better luck w/ boxing. MMA can be so unpredictable at times. I still cant get over how much I lost 2 years ago when Mirco was KTFO by Gonzaga. Man was I sour for weeks.

Yeah, you're probably right, Mirko would've taken me to the cleaners.
Every once in a while a UFC will have a card where I'll go like 10 for 12 in predictions; but there will also be cards where I barely predict a single fight accurately.

GroundSt.Pound
12-14-2009, 01:26 AM
Yeah, you're probably right, Mirko would've taken me to the cleaners.
Every once in a while a UFC will have a card where I'll go like 10 for 12 in predictions; but there will also be cards where I barely predict a single fight accurately.

I agree MMA is harder to bet on. But if you are well educated on the sport and the participants, it's actually not that hard.

Every once in a while though, the judges will screw everything up or you'll get a Buster Douglas.

I moderate a site for MMA Discussion and Betting if you want to check it out I'll give you a link.

I've made some good money betting on fights, but like I said you have to know everything you can before you throw your money down.