NemesisChylde
11-27-2004, 05:38 PM
Ok. I'm an administrator of another forum (a vampire forum, totally unrelated to boxing ;)), and my job on that forum is to stir up controversy. So I thought I'd bring my talents here.
I'm sure you all know who Jack Johnson is. The first African American Heavyweight Champion of the world. The year was 1908, forty five years after the Emancipation Proclamation.
Not a very long time, if you think about it. What the hell does one have to do with the other, though, you might ask? Let's see.
Jack Johnson was convicted in 1913 as per the Mann Act. What was the Mann Act? A law passed in 1910 that banned the transport of women for immoral purposes across state lines.
Now the Mann act was originally proposed as a means of controlling prostitution. It was twisted in a horrible way to convict Jack Johnson, who moved across state lines with his fiance, Lucille Cameron. You betcha, she was white. How dare he!
Now here we are, almost a hundred years after that, finally talking about posthumously overturning that conviction and pardoning the man. What the hell is the point? He served his time, he's dead. We're roughly 140 years out of the Emancipation Proclamation, roughly 120 years out of the last of the slavery era, and we're STILL haggling over whether or not this man should be pardoned posthumously, because it can't be that simple, can it? Just do it!!! What's this say about our country?
We still think of the black man as not on the same level intellectually as the white man? Quite frankly, I find the whole thing rather ridiculous, that it has to be brought up as an issue at all, because it says a lot...too much, really. This country needs to move forward, and we aren't going to be able to do that until we get over skin colours. Last time I checked, skin colour didn't have jack to do with basic intelligence. Now, now, don't go hurling the fallacy of the fifteen point IQ difference at me, I'll only show you that it's seven, and it's a sketchy one at that. I've done my research. *winks*
Btw, I found this, in my research. Check it out. It's worth your time, I promise, and comes straight from this site. It details the act to pardon Jack Johnson. http://www.sodomylaws.org/usa/usnews108.htm
I'm sure you all know who Jack Johnson is. The first African American Heavyweight Champion of the world. The year was 1908, forty five years after the Emancipation Proclamation.
Not a very long time, if you think about it. What the hell does one have to do with the other, though, you might ask? Let's see.
Jack Johnson was convicted in 1913 as per the Mann Act. What was the Mann Act? A law passed in 1910 that banned the transport of women for immoral purposes across state lines.
Now the Mann act was originally proposed as a means of controlling prostitution. It was twisted in a horrible way to convict Jack Johnson, who moved across state lines with his fiance, Lucille Cameron. You betcha, she was white. How dare he!
Now here we are, almost a hundred years after that, finally talking about posthumously overturning that conviction and pardoning the man. What the hell is the point? He served his time, he's dead. We're roughly 140 years out of the Emancipation Proclamation, roughly 120 years out of the last of the slavery era, and we're STILL haggling over whether or not this man should be pardoned posthumously, because it can't be that simple, can it? Just do it!!! What's this say about our country?
We still think of the black man as not on the same level intellectually as the white man? Quite frankly, I find the whole thing rather ridiculous, that it has to be brought up as an issue at all, because it says a lot...too much, really. This country needs to move forward, and we aren't going to be able to do that until we get over skin colours. Last time I checked, skin colour didn't have jack to do with basic intelligence. Now, now, don't go hurling the fallacy of the fifteen point IQ difference at me, I'll only show you that it's seven, and it's a sketchy one at that. I've done my research. *winks*
Btw, I found this, in my research. Check it out. It's worth your time, I promise, and comes straight from this site. It details the act to pardon Jack Johnson. http://www.sodomylaws.org/usa/usnews108.htm