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!! Anorak 04-14-2005, 05:02 PM One phenomenon I find even rarer than boxers who lose a decision admitting they didn't win is boxers who get a gift and admit they didn't deserve it.
How much more respect would you have had for DLH if he'd gone "I know I can do bet-er.... in fact, I did crap and I lost to Sturm."?
What about if Scott Harrison had turned round after the Victor Polo fight and went "I dinnae wee los' to ma man ye ken lad tha noos." Everyone would have said "I really respect that honesty." Actually, everyone would have probably said "What did he say? Can we get subtitles?" but the principle is there...
neils7147933 04-14-2005, 05:08 PM Chris Byrd with his arm draped over Fres Oquendo looking visibly embarassed and relieved as he was interviewed was an uncomfortable scene...
joeboxer 04-15-2005, 12:50 AM Tyson was awsome when he lost to Lewis. He knew he lost, he didn't try to claim anything weird was going on. He even went up to Lewis and wiped his own blood off the face of Lewis with his glove. It was a admirable display.
Tyson was awsome when he lost to Lewis. He knew he lost, he didn't try to claim anything weird was going on. He even went up to Lewis and wiped his own blood off the face of Lewis with his glove. It was a admirable display.
That's how a bully usually is.. When you beat them they turn into the biggest *****es!! Nothing about Tyson is admirable.. Had he won that fight he would have went on a rant about eating his kids and being Alexander or some ****!!
mic573 04-15-2005, 12:54 AM Tyson was awsome when he lost to Lewis. He knew he lost, he didn't try to claim anything weird was going on. He even went up to Lewis and wiped his own blood off the face of Lewis with his glove. It was a admirable display.
Of course Tyson knew he lost that fight he was beat up and then knocked out. Tyson usually does take his losses well though.
Bozo_no no 04-15-2005, 01:03 AM In some cases, while its not good sportsmanship, its a can be a positive thing.
Look at Lewis after getting KTFO by Rahman. To this day, I don't think Lewis has accepted that he lost that fight. He talks about it like it didn't happen.
In the rematch, instead of going in gun shy, he went in thinking about how superior a fighter he was, and put on
one of the most dominating performances of his career.
A lot of these fighters are driven by ego, and while it may not be flattering to us as fans and media to see them not be able to give credit to their opponent after a loss, that stubborn sense of superiority is often the same trait that allows them to fight through adversity, and come back with fire to fight another day. <br>
Tha Greatest 04-15-2005, 01:07 AM Judah-Tszyu
Bozo_no no 04-15-2005, 01:14 AM Judah-Tszyu
What about Judah Tszyu?
Judah publicly apologized to both Tszyu and Nadey, admitting he lost fair and square.
Its not his fault he couldn't accept it in the ring with how concussed he was.
;)
Tha Greatest 04-15-2005, 01:21 AM What about Judah Tszyu?
Judah publicly apologized to both Tszyu and Nadey, admitting he lost fair and square.
Its not his fault he couldn't accept it in the ring with how concussed he was.
;)
ya, my bad on that lol forget that one
Morales-Barrera III was a BIG one
.::|ULTIMATE|::. 04-15-2005, 02:22 AM Well after the Morales VS Barrera I fight, Morales immidiately went on to shake his hand, and not only that but immidiately gave the WBO belt back to MAB. MAB said thank you, shook his hand, and when he was interviewed he said and i quote, "I hope HBO see's that their fighter is no good", and he went on a smack talking spree all over talk shows in Mexico which would start one of the most heated rivalries in the history of the sport. To which Morales would loose a controversial decision in the first rematch after getting sucker punched in the press conference and be called a poor sport after his close loss in the second rematch for refusing to shake MAB's hand.
So see maybe its not really a good thing hahaha. :D
Living Legend 04-15-2005, 02:30 AM Chris Byrd with his arm draped over Fres Oquendo looking visibly embarassed and relieved as he was interviewed was an uncomfortable scene...
If you read byrd's lips when they where about to announce the decision, he told his people I know their going to give it too him...I thought that figth was bad for boxing..Oquendo had byrd touching everything inside in the ring and byrd still walked away with the decision...I would have took the win, but gave him the belt, or atleast an immediate rematch, so I could knock him out like I should have done this fight...By the way, isn't it liek against the rules in boxing to ever admit that you lost a fight...?
joeboxer 04-15-2005, 02:48 AM he wanted to give him a rematch but his madatory Jamile McCline would not wait.
Bombardier 04-15-2005, 08:31 AM Leija was good about it after he lost to Gatti, though he probably already had retirement on his mind by that point. De La Hoya was pretty decent after the Sturm fight, by the way...no way he's going to admit he lost, but he admitted he took the fight too lightly, which is a big admission for a fighter I'm sure.
Thing about losing a fight is that it's not like losing a game of checkers or something...you got beat up, and it's pretty embarassing. I think most fighters now are pretty good about handling defeat...even though get the odd guy like Eastman that lives in his own deluded world.
Living Legend 04-15-2005, 09:13 AM he wanted to give him a rematch but his madatory Jamile McCline would not wait.
My bad, I didn't realize that.
puppy_dogg 04-15-2005, 09:18 AM james toney always openly said that jones beat him fair and square. which is kinda odd, you would'nt expect that from toney
Palma 04-15-2005, 09:22 AM That's how a bully usually is.. When you beat them they turn into the biggest *****es!! Nothing about Tyson is admirable.. Had he won that fight he would have went on a rant about eating his kids and being Alexander or some ****!!
That it isn't true! Apart from the ear incident with Holyfield, Tyson has always shown his opponents respect after he defeats them. he is usually shown helping them off the canvas or shaking their hands after the fight.
joffo 04-15-2005, 09:37 AM danny green took his loss to beyer with great dignity
but **** what can you say about a performance like that
terrible, he brought absolutely nothing that beyer wasn't expecting, his worst performace in i cant remember how long,but took it with true class, the only thing he did well all night
neils7147933 04-15-2005, 09:38 AM he wanted to give him a rematch but his madatory Jamile McCline would not wait.
he fought Golota in the meantime. I thought he wanted to give Golota a rematch, and that's when McCline filed suit.
Kind of ****ty, too, McCline and Byrd are supposed to be boys...
neils7147933 04-15-2005, 09:40 AM If you read byrd's lips when they where about to announce the decision, he told his people I know their going to give it too him...I thought that figth was bad for boxing..Oquendo had byrd touching everything inside in the ring and byrd still walked away with the decision...I would have took the win, but gave him the belt, or atleast an immediate rematch, so I could knock him out like I should have done this fight...By the way, isn't it liek against the rules in boxing to ever admit that you lost a fight...?
I believe Big George's exact words after the decision was read: "That's terrible." One judge had it 117-111 too...
Steve Farhood called out Rico Hoye after he lost like 10 or 11 rounds and still got the crooked decision. He would barely give Griffin any credit at all. Good thing he got KO'd when he got his title shot...
Bombardier 04-15-2005, 09:42 AM That it isn't true! <b>Apart from the ear incident with Holyfield</b>, Tyson has always shown his opponents respect after he defeats them. he is usually shown helping them off the canvas or shaking their hands after the fight.
That's a pretty extreme exception though, don't you think?
bigdlb12 04-15-2005, 09:49 AM what about mayweather vs Castillo 1? Did PBF ecer say anything?
I don't think these guys should concede in some way if they won the fight but think they lost. What about all the times when guys think they won fights but didn't get the decision, nothing is changed either way. Boxing is very corrupt and the big promoters make too much money so why would they want to see it changed?
Chris Byrd with his arm draped over Fres Oquendo looking visibly embarassed and relieved as he was interviewed was an uncomfortable scene...
I personally have no idea why. I scored the fight for byrd by at least 2 rounds. Oquendo ran like a byotch rounds 8-12. People were just hungry for Byrd to lose.
Oquendo never did enough to decisevly take his title away.
Bombardier 04-15-2005, 01:28 PM Corrales is a big whiner after he loses, at least from what I've seen. He gets that wounded baby look on his face.
neils7147933 04-15-2005, 01:35 PM I personally have no idea why. I scored the fight for byrd by at least 2 rounds. Oquendo ran like a byotch rounds 8-12. People were just hungry for Byrd to lose.
Oquendo never did enough to decisevly take his title away.
You were part of the decided minority, including myself and the entire HBO commentary team. That fight often comes up on BoxingScene's robbery threads...
tysonortiz 04-15-2005, 01:52 PM Yeah, I hate corrales and his whining.
Mech. 04-15-2005, 03:31 PM One phenomenon I find even rarer than boxers who lose a decision admitting they didn't win is boxers who get a gift and admit they didn't deserve it.
How much more respect would you have had for DLH if he'd gone "I know I can do bet-er.... in fact, I did crap and I lost to Sturm."?
What about if Scott Harrison had turned round after the Victor Polo fight and went "I dinnae wee los' to ma man ye ken lad tha noos." Everyone would have said "I really respect that honesty." Actually, everyone would have probably said "What did he say? Can we get subtitles?" but the principle is there...
Well DLH all but admited he lost right after the fight, he was like "I dont know what happened" he said he was disappointed and all,but yeah he didnt actually say "i lost"
tri4ben2 04-15-2005, 03:37 PM Big punchers are willing to take a little more punishment when they are losing because they know that they can win the fight with one punch.
In both of Corrales' losses, he felt he could have won if the fight went a little longer.
With Mayweather, he was swinging too hard and was missing PBF by a mile, but he felt that if he connected he could get back into the fight even though he had been knocked down a couple million times.
Against Casamayor on the undercard of Toney-Holyfeild, Corrales was also on the floor a couple of times, but he got up and was killing Casa at the end of the round to the point where the fight was almost stopped and in between rounds Margret Goodman stopped the fight because his mouth was bleeding pretty bad. Corrales kept saying "One more round", and had a right to be upset.
IwatchBoxing 04-15-2005, 03:49 PM Castillo should of said "Casamayor treated me like his child"
Bryd "Oquendo beat me"
Oscar "I ran, he won (Tito), I lost"
juanvalverde 04-16-2005, 01:29 AM some fighters dont admit it at the time they lose, its difficult to feel that you lost, mostly in a close fight, but later some of them do admit it, pacquiao anybody? he did dissapoint me with those weak excuses..
Tha Greatest 04-16-2005, 01:36 AM Morales:I had a bad night........
I met a girl..........
I wasn't there tonight.......
I won the fight.......
4 excuses from Morales in 1 fight
The Golden Boy 04-16-2005, 01:45 AM Morales:I had a bad night........
I met a girl..........
I wasn't there tonight.......
I won the fight.......
4 excuses from Morales in 1 fight
Funny how he has only had 3 "bad nights" in his career and they all came against Barrera.
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