isn't real music and that if your music tastes are mainly hip hop your musically illiterate...and are a blind man to music. what an *******. disscuss!

I've said this many times and I'll say it again. This is the only message board I've ever liked. Every other one I go to, people are *******s. On this one theres a post rule where you can't post more than one post at a time. So you have to put everything in one post. and the mod theres talks **** to you, WTF lol

I know megstarr wouldnt hear none of that ****. neither would oldgringo, neils, gold mac...any real hip hop head. i cant believe people are still trying to say its not music.

dont let what 1 clown says affect you

I just wanted to bring this here so we can make fun of them. lol

What message board?

What message board?

www.limpbizkit.org

lol. I know its not cool to like them, they suck. fred durst sucks. i know. but i still like them and i went there to talk with fans of the band because they have a new album coming next year.

It's only the people that are too ignorant to actually look into the whole spectrum of hip hop that make those kinda statements.

It's like I'm not a fan of heavy metal but I won't say it isn't real music because there is obviously a lot of decent stuff out there that I haven't heard. You should show him this vid

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I know megstarr wouldnt hear none of that ****. neither would oldgringo, neils, gold mac...any real hip hop head. i cant believe people are still trying to say its not music.
It is music, but from someone who plays live instrument, or writes music, like sheet music, or is a fan of an orchestra, etc..... someone taking someone else's samples, playing with it on a computer, and having someone else chant something over it....

....it does seem to be LESSER music.

And I would agree, to some degree, that some of what is contained in hip-hop isn't "real music." Of course, that goes to other genres too. Most of that artificial pop paint-by-numbers formula sound on Radio Disney isn't real music either. Those TV stars can't even sing on pitch when they go live.

There is certainly an art to much of what is entailed in hip-hop, and I don't like blanket statements like the one on the board you mentioned, but go to the opera or go to a symphony, then play Souljaboy tell 'em in the CD player on the way home, and maybe you'll see it a little bit "their way"...lol

It is music, but from someone who plays live instrument, or writes music, like sheet music, or is a fan of an orchestra, etc..... someone taking someone else's samples, playing with it on a computer, and having someone else chant something over it....

....it does seem to be LESSER music.

And I would agree, to some degree, that some of what is contained in hip-hop isn't "real music." Of course, that goes to other genres too. Most of that artificial pop paint-by-numbers formula sound on Radio Disney isn't real music either. Those TV stars can't even sing on pitch when they go live.

There is certainly an art to much of what is entailed in hip-hop, and I don't like blanket statements like the one on the board you mentioned, but go to the opera or go to a symphony, then play Souljaboy tell 'em in the CD player on the way home, and maybe you'll see it a little bit "their way"...lol

I agree. Music that involves live instruments are harder and music that involes singing is also harder. But its more so the attitude of the posters over there thats bothering me. I just don't like the vibe. and all the stupid posting rules. just kind of a lame site. imo

I agree. Music that involves live instruments are harder and music that involes singing is also harder. But its more so the attitude of the posters over there thats bothering me. I just don't like the vibe. and all the stupid posting rules. just kind of a lame site. imo

Nah that isn't true. I play the guitar, bass and played the drums for a while as a kid and can assure you that mastering music software (cubase,logic)/hardware (drum machines etc) is equally as difficult. Some people think because the sounds aren't 'natural' or 'organic' it isn't difficult to make.

It's only the people that are too ignorant to actually look into the whole spectrum of hip hop that make those kinda statements.

It's like I'm not a fan of heavy metal but I won't say it isn't real music because there is obviously a lot of decent stuff out there that I haven't heard. You should show him this vid

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thanks. i would watch that video. but im using a mac. and for some reason i cant watch videos on it.

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lol. I know its not cool to like them, they suck. fred durst sucks. i know. but i still like them and i went there to talk with fans of the band because they have a new album coming next year.

LOL.

It's all good, bro.

I used to be big on Limp Bizkit when I was younger. My musical tastes have changed since then, but they aren't THAT horrible. We all have some guilty pleasures.

About the hip-hop ain't music thing...

Hip-Hop is most definitely music. At least some hip-hop is. Obviously there is some hip-hop out there, that uninspired, flat, autotune, techno jargon. But to say Illmatic isn't a piece of music...:nonono:

Those who play the piano take the notes they're given and hit the keys in a certain sucession, and at certain intervals of time to make a collection of notes and sounds we call a song.

Sampling is essentially the same thing. I'm not talking about that Kanye West sampling, taking a a snippet of a famous song, changing the pitch and looping it. I'm talking about breaking down and cutting up a sample so much that you can't even tell it's a sample.

This is Jel. It may not fit the hip-hop mold, but he's pretty much making a beat.

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And as Mushroom posted already, there are bands like the Roots, a band with a rapper.

Here's one of my favorite producers.

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LOL.

It's all good, bro.

I used to be big on Limp Bizkit when I was younger. My musical tastes have changed since then, but they aren't THAT horrible. We all have some guilty pleasures.

About the hip-hop ain't music thing...

Hip-Hop is most definitely music. At least some hip-hop is. Obviously there is some hip-hop out there, that uninspired, flat, autotune, techno jargon. But to say Illmatic isn't a piece of music...:nonono:

Those who play the piano take the notes they're given and hit the keys in a certain sucession, and at certain intervals of time to make a collection of notes and sounds we call a song.

Sampling is essentially the same thing. I'm not talking about that Kanye West sampling, taking a a snippet of a famous song, changing the pitch and looping it. I'm talking about breaking down and cutting up a sample so much that you can't even tell it's a sample.

This is Jel. It may not fit the hip-hop mold, but he's pretty much making a beat.

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And as Mushroom posted already, there are bands like the Roots, a band with a rapper.

thanks man. this is cool stuff. I agree making a beat takes talent, ecspecially when your doing it on that level.

about limp bizkit. its weird because I stopped listening to them back in probably freshman year of high school.(8 years ago) but earlier this year I going through one those looking back at my past moments...and I was remebered that I likem them alot in middle school and early high school. So I youtubed alot of that stuff, and at first I was like...nah this isnt me anymore. But then all of sudden something struck a cord, and I like their stuff again. Coincidently, I hear like a week a later that the group is back and are going to record a new album...world tour etc. and thats how it all came about.

I mean, technically people call this kinda **** "trip-hop" electronica type stuff. With this I'm gettin' into the realm of "that's not even hip-hop" but still. I'm not even completely aware of dude's process, but this has been one of my favorite "trip-hop/electronica" albums for a while now.

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I was raised on rock 'n roll like Deep Purple, Zeppelin, Steppenwolf, etc. But I still love rap - It speaks to an entire generation and has had to battle to be recognized as a legitimate genre. Now like every music genre, it has it's joke artists, but it's still a genre nonetheless.