Ok let's use this thread to discuss the upcoming NBA playoffs, and place our bets against each other....Let's go basketball fans!~

First official bet:

In case the Pistons & the Spurs meet in the finals:

20 Million Points bet between Thrilla (Pistons) & The Fix (Spurs)

isn't it kinda late in the season for this thread??

spurs lost to the jazz yesterday with duncan in the lineup :D
oh well the spurs are still gonna win.

Heat Byotches.

Heat Byotches.

maybe if they can get past the pistons but i doubt it, pistons play very well as a team(not as good as the spurs ;) ) and they will be tough to beat for anyone(except for the spurs ;) )

I have a 500 million dollar bet with Jose...he has the Suns and I of course put the smart money on the Pistons.

What you guys are failing to understand is that we now have the best starting 5 in the league and our ENTIRE BENCH (also the best) is back. Everyones healthy...the rest of the league is ****ed...

If you can name 5 players on a team that are better than the starting 5 on the Pistons then ill give you 20 mil...im talking about 5 whole players...not 3.

The playoffs are a whole different animal and thats when the Stunners step it up.

I got the Heat.

isn't it kinda late in the season for this thread??

Actually its perfectly in time for the playoffs, where the real action begins (the trash talking and the betting here at BS) :cool:

I got the Rockets

I have a 500 million dollar bet with Jose...he has the Suns and I of course put the smart money on the Pistons.

What you guys are failing to understand is that we now have the best starting 5 in the league and our ENTIRE BENCH (also the best) is back. Everyones healthy...the rest of the league is ****ed...

If you can name 5 players on a team that are better than the starting 5 on the Pistons then ill give you 20 mil...im talking about 5 whole players...not 3.
The playoffs are a whole different animal and thats when the Stunners step it up.

seriously id take the spurs lineup before the pistons, tim duncan can just takeover games and straight out dominate. there isnt one thing he does bad---maybe freethrows but he aint that bad at that. here is how i look at the lineups:

parker>>>>>billups
ginobli = hamilton
bowen<<<<<<prince
duncan>>>>>rasheed wallace
nesterovic(sp?)<<<<<< ben wallace

right now i just cant pick against tim duncan, he is just too big a factor.both teams play great team basketball but the pistons dont have a player that can takeover a game like the spurs do.


btw i i think the suns have 5 players better than the pistons do, the pistons are proven though and imo there play is more suitable for the playoffs

nash
richardson
johnson
marion
stoudemire(sp?)





EDIT how come my post got messed up and i cant edit it?
it is supposed to look like this :
bowen<<<<< prince but instead it looks like bowen<<<<<duncan>>>>>rasheed wallace

seriously id take the spurs lineup before the pistons, tim duncan can just takeover games and straight out dominate. there isnt one thing he does bad---maybe freethrows but he aint that bad at that. here is how i look at the lineups:

parker>>>>>billups
ginobli = hamilton
bowen <<<<<<prince
duncan>>>>> rasheed wallace
nesterovic(sp?)<<<<<< ben wallace

right now i just cant pick against tim duncan, he is just too big a factor.both teams play great team basketball but the pistons dont have a player that can takeover a game like the spurs do.


btw i i think the suns have 5 players better than the pistons do, the pistons are proven though and imo there play is more suitable for the playoffs

nash
richardson
johnson
marion
stoudemire(sp?)


The Suns have 5 better OFFENSIVE PLAYERS...not both ways though.

Theres no way that parker is BETTER than Chauncey. I like Parker, but he's only equal to Billups AT BEST. Chauncey is bigger, stronger, passes just as well, shoots better % from both the field and the stripe, and can make the big three when you need it. He's also no slouch on D but i'll say that Parker is better in the open court.

Rip and Ginobili are about equal...although Ginobili would kill for Rips mid-range jumper.

Tayshaun owns Bowen...mainly on the offensive side because Bowen has good defense like Tay Tay.

Duncan is better than Sheed just about everywhere except outside...and Sheed plays D just about as well as Duncan.

Ben owns Nesterovic.

There it is...plus you factor in that we have a better bench and it all comes together perfectly.

I got the Heat.


Wanna bet in case the Pistons meet the Heat in the Eastern Conf. Finals?

seriously id take the spurs lineup before the pistons, tim duncan can just takeover games and straight out dominate. there isnt one thing he does bad---maybe freethrows but he aint that bad at that. here is how i look at the lineups:

parker>>>>>billups
ginobli = hamilton
bowen <<<<<<prince
duncan>>>>> rasheed wallace
nesterovic(sp?)<<<<<< ben wallace

right now i just cant pick against tim duncan, he is just too big a factor.both teams play great team basketball but the pistons dont have a player that can takeover a game like the spurs do.


btw i i think the suns have 5 players better than the pistons do, the pistons are proven though and imo there play is more suitable for the playoffs

nash
richardson
johnson
marion
stoudemire(sp?)


Who do you match-up McDyess against in the Spurs then ??

Go Pistons!!!!!!!1111

spurs lost to the jazz yesterday with duncan in the lineup :D
oh well the spurs are still gonna win.



thats pretty bad. the jazz suck now.

thats pretty bad. the jazz suck now.

too many injuries for the jazz, they never had a chance to really get used to eachother. imo its gonna work out better for them anyway cause they are gonna have a good chance to get either bogut or paul.i think they should take paul cause they really nead a pg and okur is gettin better.

paul could be really good
harpring- hard worker
ak47 16 ppg and like 3.5 blocks
boozer could be a 20 and 10 guy
okur good shooter but cant defend anything

looks like a solid starting lineup that will only get better in a couple years

Wanna bet in case the Pistons meet the Heat in the Eastern Conf. Finals?

No problem. That defense they used to shut down Dwyane Wade, in their previous game, won't work when Shaq is in the middle....trust me when I say that.

Heat gonna take it this year. How much are the lakers kickin themselves for lettin shaq go. They go from THE team to not even reaching the playoffs. Pathetic.

And dwayne wade is the truth, haha.

whats "above the run" mean...

doesnt make sense to me :D :D :D

cavaliers keep on losing but did anyone see tayshauns move on pavlovic with like 1:30 left in the game, it was nice and lebron answered it with a three. it was a good game but lebrons three to tie wasnt even close, it was a terrible play that kinda killed the drama

cavaliers keep on losing but did anyone see tayshauns move on pavlovic with like 1:30 left in the game, it was nice and lebron answered it with a three. it was a good game but lebrons three to tie wasnt even close, it was a terrible play that kinda killed the drama


Stons just keep on winning. Even with Rasheed and Rip hurting...

Spurs are going to get it handed to em...

Stons just keep on winning. Even with Rasheed and Rip hurting...

Spurs are going to get it handed to em...

yeah the spurs are going to get this handed to them:
http://www.tu-da.ru/thumbs/661b.jpg

yeah the spurs are going to get this handed to them:
http://www.tu-da.ru/thumbs/661b.jpg


exactly...notice the little "DvD" sign down in the lower left hand corner...they're going to get a copy of the Pistons 2005 championship DvD.

haha. OG & The Fix are still at it I see.... :D
GO PISTONS !!!

haha. OG & The Fix are still at it I see.... :D
GO PISTONS !!!


yeah we are, and I'm clearly winning :D


WHAT NOW FIX???

old gringo, how much is your bet again? isn't it 50 mil points? let us have a bet? if miami meets your pistons, how about 75 million points?

yeah we are, and I'm clearly winning :D


WHAT NOW FIX???

you got me with the dvd line.... i got nothing right now

My betting summary on this site for all sports looks something like this...

I have 500 Million on a potential Pistons/Suns matchup with Jose

I have 200 Million on Toney/Ruiz with Neils

and yeah that's it. I could 75 mil if you want Chito...if you want to do it just say confirmed on this thread and its done...put it in your sig and all and so will I.

oh yeah and I may be forgetting other bets i didn't know i had so if i have a bet w/ you lemme know.

My betting summary on this site for all sports looks something like this...

I have 500 Million on a potential Pistons/Suns matchup with Jose

I have 200 Million on Toney/Ruiz with Neils

and yeah that's it. I could 75 mil if you want Chito...if you want to do it just say confirmed on this thread and its done...put it in your sig and all and so will I.

make it 100 million, could you still afford it? ok, it's confirmed. i'll just donate it to you if the pistons win. i don't have anyone to bet with, except you so i won't forget. and it's really a nice feeling if it's you that i will beat because you're really a die-hard fan of the pistons. ok then.

oh well ill bet 0 and if i win ill get all the points LoL! :booty:

make it 100 million, could you still afford it? ok, it's confirmed. i'll just donate it to you if the pistons win. i don't have anyone to bet with, except you so i won't forget. and it's really a nice feeling if it's you that i will beat because you're really a die-hard fan of the pistons. ok then.


Done...it must have sucked to find out yesterday that Shaq bruised his thigh huh?

http://www.bargaintix.com/img/event/hpg0405_041212_shaq4.jpg

We will be seeing a whole lot of this people.

Mark My Words. His thigh will be fine. He could play on a broken leg.

Done...it must have sucked to find out yesterday that Shaq bruised his thigh huh?

yeah but i don't worry abt. it coz shaq accdg. to him is an old buffalo. he could still play even if he's hurt. have you seen mourning's defense yesterday? i guess he could defend well against ben wallace. we'll see if he could do that.

yeah but i don't worry abt. it coz shaq accdg. to him is an old buffalo. he could still play even if he's hurt. have you seen mourning's defense yesterday? i guess he could defend well against ben wallace. we'll see if he could do that.


Zo, for all of his diminished skills these days can still play hard-nosed defense. He's my favorite player ever outside of Michael Jordan of course. I hope him nothing but the best...and it's not really hard to D-up Ben Wallace so he shouldn't have life and death struggles with that. All of this being said, the Pistons are still going to win the championship.

Zo, for all of his diminished skills these days can still play hard-nosed defense. He's my favorite player ever outside of Michael Jordan of course. I hope him nothing but the best...and it's not really hard to D-up Ben Wallace so he shouldn't have life and death struggles with that. All of this being said, the Pistons are still going to win the championship.

Is that really you in your avatar?
I thought you were old as in OLD ?? :confused:

Pareng chito just let me know if you want to bet with me too :D

Zo, for all of his diminished skills these days can still play hard-nosed defense. He's my favorite player ever outside of Michael Jordan of course. I hope him nothing but the best...and it's not really hard to D-up Ben Wallace so he shouldn't have life and death struggles with that. All of this being said, the Pistons are still going to win the championship.
have you seen yesterday's heat vs pacers? if mourning plays as hard as he played yesterday... there's no stopping the HEAT!!


HEAT RULES!!!

Yes killerblow thats me in the avatar...my name is very misleading because i am in fact the complete opposite of my name :D


czars...the Heat will be a very tough team and the Stons/Heat matchup should be very interesting indeed. I just hope for an epic series either way it goes.

Pareng chito just let me know if you want to bet with me too :D

ok 200 million, alam ko naman madami kang points. is that ok? this will be exciting, i hope this would happen, pistons-miami is a very good match-up (medyo balanse ang line-up nila pareho)

Yes killerblow thats me in the avatar...my name is very misleading because i am in fact the complete opposite of my name :D


czars...the Heat will be a very tough team and the Stons/Heat matchup should be very interesting indeed. I just hope for an epic series either way it goes.

you look tall and could be mistaken for a filipino. there are a lot of filipinos i see who look exactly like you.

ok 200 million, alam ko naman madami kang points. is that ok? this will be exciting, i hope this would happen, pistons-miami is a very good match-up (medyo balanse ang line-up nila pareho)


Whoa !! Haha. Ok . 200 million friendly bet :D

Whoa !! Haha. Ok . 200 million friendly bet :D

oo nga friendly bet pero mas malaki pa kesa kay oldgringo he he he. anyway, just for fun lang naman and it would surely add more excitement to this anticipated match, sana matuloy ano?

oo nga friendly bet pero mas malaki pa kesa kay oldgringo he he he. anyway, just for fun lang naman and it would surely add more excitement to this anticipated match, sana matuloy ano?
ok gets ko na...

Boston Celtics all the way, thats my team.

Boston Celtics all the way, thats my team.


The Celtics are going to be tough in the playoffs. Payton, Davis, Pierce, Walker, LaFrentz is a good starting 5 and they have a decent enough bench. Pierce can be unstoppable at times.

The Celtics are going to be tough in the playoffs. Payton, Davis, Pierce, Walker, LaFrentz is a good starting 5 and they have a decent enough bench. Pierce can be unstoppable at times.

i say they are out first round, even thought the pacers are slumping right now its because jermaine o'neal just got back from injury and he just fittin in right now. i say pacers in 6, they will be especially tough cause this is reggies last season.

is anybody playing pick and roll at nba.com? its a game where you pick the outcome of the playoffs
if someone made a group i'd join, i'd make the group but im pretty computer dumb. well just an idea.... id show you all that iam going to be right when the spurs beat the pistons in 6.

is anybody playing pick and roll at nba.com? its a game where you pick the outcome of the playoffs
if someone made a group i'd join, i'd make the group but im pretty computer dumb. well just an idea.... id show you all that iam going to be right when the spurs beat the pistons in 6.


false......

Boston Celtics all the way, thats my team.
yah right... 1st round elimination :cool: ;)

As of now, the Pistons are the defending champs and until they get down 3-0 , I won't bet against them.

Pistons roll to their 11th consecutive win against Le Bron and the Cavs. Perfect time to heat-up , just before the playoffs begin .. Watch out Miami & company... :cool:

Pistons roll to their 11th consecutive win against Le Bron and the Cavs. Perfect time to heat-up , just before the playoffs begin .. Watch out Miami & company... :cool:
miami will be there...

whatever happens, the championship trophy will be won by any eastern team :cool:

false......

true ;) ..........

i'd like to see the pacers win the championship b4 reggie retires

The Motown boys are on a roll and a momentum that's gonna take them all the way to the top again this year !

i'd like to see the pacers win the championship b4 reggie retires
poor reggie.... and all those greats who never won a sigle championship


their greatness is half-baked :(

woo hoo im going to the game Stons game tommorow baby. the 76'ers are ****ed.

woo hoo im going to the game Stons game tommorow baby. the 76'ers are ****ed.

lucky bastard, id love to see a playoff game live

Commercials.......Pistons are currently losing to the Sixers 10-22 (Iverson playing with 2 fouls)

If the Pistons don't go to the zone defense they like playing, it's going to be a very tiresome series for Chauncey Billups...he clearly has no answer for The Answer

anybody want to bet on a game?

They're destroying the Sixer's now.
Can the ref stop the game in basketball?
:rofl:

All I have to say is that the game was amazing and we basically smoked the Sixers in the second half. The law firm of Wallace and Wallace were in good fashion today to step it up in Rip/Chaunceys stead. Ben had like 8 blocks and Sheed couldn't miss from deep. They were a little slow to start but once they got rolling it was a technical beatdown....kind of like your runofthemill Bernard Hopkins fight....the only difference is that the Stons game was exciting.

Anyway, this is how it's gonna be for the rest of the playoffs...good luck to the pathetic losers who try and play us. :cool:

We'll see how things play out against Miami..

indiana is losing --- badly :(

Just want to predict a Nuggets upset of the Spurs in the first round. Miami over Phoenix in the finals.

I'am happy that my bulls are in it, an dI"ll be happy if they just get out of the first round.

MIA is spanking NJ..

Go Detroit...

Detroit 1, Philadelphia 0.
Pistons win by 21 pts in Game 1....!

the champ is here....go watch big fundemental school denver.................NOW

Alright my Bulls won today, but damn I was sweating throughout that whole game, because it was back and forth, back adn forth and if it wasn't for all those damn fouls on my bulls it wouldn't have been as close as it was. Though some of them were BS calls and Gordan stepped up, Noicioni, hell the whole team deserved it, but the wizards aren't gonna go away, it's gonna be a great series probably 7 games and hopefully the bulls bring it home in 7.

Alright my Bulls won today, but damn I was sweating throughout that whole game, because it was back and forth, back adn forth and if it wasn't for all those damn fouls on my bulls it wouldn't have been as close as it was. Though some of them were BS calls and Gordan stepped up, Noicioni, hell the whole team deserved it, but the wizards aren't gonna go away, it's gonna be a great series probably 7 games and hopefully the bulls bring it home in 7.


I see this series going 6-7 games. Whoever gets to 3 wins first will have the psychological advantage ..

the best match-up is dallas vs houston, very even ;)

but of course.... it's miami winning 4 games to 2 against the spurs

HAHA!!

I couldn't disagre with you on the Dallas Houston thing or the miami thing, but I still believe that the bulls and Wizards series it's probably closer if not teh closest first round as far as equality, they are closer to equal as Hou and dallas are.

I couldn't disagre with you on the Dallas Houston thing or the miami thing, but I still believe that the bulls and Wizards series it's probably closer if not teh closest first round as far as equality, they are closer to equal as Hou and dallas are.
oh yeah, how can i forget that series! i go with the young bulls. but the wizards have proven they do have heart. they were injury-plagued this season but they just kept on coming. got to be a close one ;)

the champ is here....go watch big fundemental school denver.................NOW

*clears throat* oops.....

denver played well and ive never seen the spurs collapse like that, they missed 15 or 16 shots to end the game. looks like this could be a very good series.

I got the Rockets


YEAH! 2-0 Lead over the Mavs!!!!!!Lucky you all were scared to bet against me

YEAH! 2-0 Lead over the Mavs!!!!!!Lucky you all were scared to bet against me

tracy mcgrady is probably happy to be in the second round ;)

*clears throat* oops.....

denver played well and ive never seen the spurs collapse like that, they missed 15 or 16 shots to end the game. looks like this could be a very good series.
I am saying Nuggets in 6 games over the Spurs. Man they are hot. Just not Phoenix hot.

I am saying Nuggets in 6 games over the Spurs. Man they are hot. Just not Phoenix hot.

never, spurs will win the next 4. the spurs lost cause they couldnt buy a field goal....i dont see that happening again.

never, spurs will win the next 4. the spurs lost cause they couldnt buy a field goal....i dont see that happening again.
yeah, as good as denver is doing, spurs have the experience on their side. they know how to play in these situations.
the only thing with the spurs is, they struggled in the last haf of the season, n denver has been cruising.
i say its a close call, but i think either way it'll go 7

I'd just like to say that my team Dallas is done for. I thought they would make it to the conference finals this year. ****IN ****!!:o

I'd just like to say that my team Dallas is done for. I thought they would make it to the conference finals this year. ****IN ****!!:o
i dont think they are done yet. remember when mcgrady said he was happy to be in the second round and than choked and got knocked out first round...that could still happen again

i dont think they are done yet. remember when mcgrady said he was happy to be in the second round and than choked and got knocked out first round...that could still happen again

That's the great thing about sports. You just never know. Dallas definitely has the talent to win out but theyre gonna be on the road. Dirk needs to play better and their defense needs to stop giving up 103 points a game. They were holding opponents under 93 points/game at the end of the regular season.

That's the great thing about sports. You just never know. Dallas definitely has the talent to win out but theyre gonna be on the road. Dirk needs to play better and their defense needs to stop giving up 103 points a game. They were holding opponents under 93 points/game at the end of the regular season.

yeah nowitski, finley and terry really need to pick it up.
dallas has a ****load of talent and could easliy win the next 4 if they play like they can.

Game 2: End of the 3rd quarter, Pistons lead 69-57 vs the Sixers

Pistons are blowing away the Sixers, its now 76-59....

yeah i smell sweep

I always thought the Sixers would give the Pistons some trouble in the playoffs, I guess I thought wrong...

Heat 48, Nets 39 at halftime

i think the nets might grab a win at home but other than that its all heat.

82-62, Pistons....ho-hum.......

i think the nets might grab a win at home but other than that its all heat.

I agree....I still see a Heat-Pistons Eastern Conf finale......

I agree....I still see a Heat-Pistons Eastern Conf finale......

yeah, its going to be really good too, pistons in 7

yeah, its going to be really good too, pistons in 7


I'd prefer it to be Pistons in 6 :D
Game 7 is anybody's ballgame ;)

I'd prefer it to be Pistons in 6 :D
Game 7 is anybody's ballgame ;)

especially because it will be in miami. i startin too think that if it goes 7 shaq will takeover and the pistons will be done

especially because it will be in miami. i startin too think that if it goes 7 shaq will takeover and the pistons will be done


That's why I see a game 7 as too risky for the Pistons.
The boys know how to stop Shaq, its Wade and the other
guys I'm worried about...

That's why I see a game 7 as too risky for the Pistons.
The boys know how to stop Shaq, its Wade and the other
guys I'm worried about...
shaq is unstoppable they have to just contain him..its all up to how they play the guys around him cause shaq is the most dominant player in the game and he will get his 25 and 15 when he is on.

Pistons end Sixers' misery with a 99-84 win :eek:

Man its tobad the LA Lakers din't make the playoffs but thats what they get for trading Shaq

Man its tobad the LA Lakers din't make the playoffs but thats what they get for trading Shaq

you mean thats what kobe gets for trading shaq, we all know who is the gm out there.

Man its tobad the LA Lakers din't make the playoffs but thats what they get for trading Shaq

Yeah I always thought they should have traded Kobe.
Shaq is one of a kind in this league. You can get a couple
of Kobes in the NBA nowadays.....

i know this aint basketball but a-rod just went 4-5 3hr and 10 rbi's :eek: thats huge and it was all b4 the 5th inning

Heat 104, Nets 87 FINAL

I agree....I still see a Heat-Pistons Eastern Conf finale......

thrilla, there's no way they will be at the eastern finals. they are about to meet the second round of the playoffs. the winner of no. 1 & no. 8 faces the winner of no. 2 and no. 7 (that's the pistons & sixers). i am excited, soon our betting game will be over in a couple of weeks. good luck to your team. but im hoping the miami prevails.

thrilla, there's no way they will be at the eastern finals. they are about to meet the second round of the playoffs. the winner of no. 1 & no. 8 faces the winner of no. 2 and no. 7 (that's the pistons & sixers). i am excited, soon our betting game will be over in a couple of weeks. good luck to your team. but im hoping the miami prevails.
not true, 1/8 plays the winner of 4/5 to gauruntee that the 1 seed gets too play a low seed. 2/7 plays 3/6

wow the pistons are amazing...thats all i gots to say. mcnice is en fuego. the spurs are ****ed.

wow the pistons are amazing...thats all i gots to say. mcnice is en fuego. the spurs are ****ed.
**** YA GO DETROIT!!!!!!!!!!!1
U get karma for saying pistons are amazing

**** YA GO DETROIT!!!!!!!!!!!1
U get karma for saying pistons are amazing


hell yeah ace deuce stand up!

thrilla, there's no way they will be at the eastern finals. they are about to meet the second round of the playoffs. the winner of no. 1 & no. 8 faces the winner of no. 2 and no. 7 (that's the pistons & sixers). i am excited, soon our betting game will be over in a couple of weeks. good luck to your team. but im hoping the miami prevails.


Oh you're right. anyway the bet still stands :
DEEEEEETROIT. BASKETBAAAAALLLL !!!!!! :D

How bout them spurs
ass raping the nuggets
wow that was a close game
hahahaha

wow the pistons are amazing...thats all i gots to say. mcnice is en fuego. the spurs are ****ed.


did you see duncan and the spurs yesterday..no one beat the nuggs like that while karl has been coach. duncan keeps getting healthier....the pistons are ****ed if duncan is healthy.

did you see duncan and the spurs yesterday..no one beat the nuggs like that while karl has been coach. duncan keeps getting healthier....the pistons are ****ed if duncan is healthy.
Yeah Duncan messed
Kenyopn and the other forward
pretty bad
its sad two really good players cant even stop him
when he his still injured :rolleyes:

did you see duncan and the spurs yesterday..no one beat the nuggs like that while karl has been coach. duncan keeps getting healthier....the pistons are ****ed if duncan is healthy.


The Pistons have 9 guys playing extremely well right now. Duncan will be overwhelmed by McNice, Sheed, Big Ben, Rip, Mr. Big Shot, The Fresh Prince of the Palace, Lindsey MILF Hunter, Los Arroyo, Dupree and Elden...and Dunkin Darvin.

The Pistons will beat the Heat in 6 and same with the Spurs. We have finally figured everything out and that swagger is back. Our defense is unreal and our bench is playing lights out. The Heat will lose just like the Lakers lost last year. We'll let Shaq do his thing, we'll limit D-Wade, and we'll lock up everything else to make the rest of their team beat us. Same goes with the Spurs. Duncan will do his thing, Parker and Ginobili will find that it's extremely hard to score...and the rest of our team will simply outclass the rest of the Spurs roster. If you don't think that D will be tenacious just look at the Stons game 2, 3rd quarter. Best defensive quarter all year.

Chauncey 12-18

Rip 15-20

Tayshaun 12-16

Sheed 12-18

Ben 6-12

Bench 18-26

As long as the Stons score around 85-90 a game the its game set match for everyone else.

The Pistons have 9 guys playing extremely well right now. Duncan will be overwhelmed by McNice, Sheed, Big Ben, Rip, Mr. Big Shot, The Fresh Prince of the Palace, Lindsey MILF Hunter, Los Arroyo, Dupree and Elden...and Dunkin Darvin.

The Pistons will beat the Heat in 6 and same with the Spurs. We have finally figured everything out and that swagger is back. Our defense is unreal and our bench is playing lights out. The Heat will lose just like the Lakers lost last year. We'll let Shaq do his thing, we'll limit D-Wade, and we'll lock up everything else to make the rest of their team beat us. Same goes with the Spurs. Duncan will do his thing, Parker and Ginobili will find that it's extremely hard to score...and the rest of our team will simply outclass the rest of the Spurs roster. If you don't think that D will be tenacious just look at the Stons game 2, 3rd quarter. Best defensive quarter all year.

duncan is better than all the players you just mentioned and the spurs are pretty deep. the spurs play great defence and can score with anyone. when duncan drops 25 and 12 on the pistons, the pistons will be done in 5.

YOu bring up some good points with those names right there for the Pistons, there good, but I don't think anybody, I mean anybody that can contain Shaq and if u can't contain him, he can't stop Wade, u can't stop Damon or Eddie Jones, and then if u can't do those things u can't beat teh heat, I take the heat all the way over the spurs.

duncan is better than all the players you just mentioned and the spurs are pretty deep. the spurs play great defence and can score with anyone. when duncan drops 25 and 12 on the pistons, the pistons will be done in 5.


Even suggesting that the Spurs would deal with the Stons in 5 is rediculous. Duncans points this year would be like Shaqs 30 and 15 last year. Outside of Duncan, the Spurs dont have one player position for position that is better than the Pistons. They dont have an instant offense/defense guy of the bench like we do in McNice. Their defense, although very good, is still inferior to that of the Stons. We get **** done when it needs to get done. Sheed, Ben, and McNice will limit Duncans impact and our superior bench and all around play will give us the edge in a close 6 game series. I'm positive that there would be a decisive game 5 in which the Stons would impose their defense on the road and would upset the Spurs at home. The Spurs of last year would have stacked up nicely against Detroit, but we absolutely TROUNCED that Lakers team that beat you guys. Stons in 6 baby...

YOu bring up some good points with those names right there for the Pistons, there good, but I don't think anybody, I mean anybody that can contain Shaq and if u can't contain him, he can't stop Wade, u can't stop Damon or Eddie Jones, and then if u can't do those things u can't beat teh heat, I take the heat all the way over the spurs.


Well outside of Shaq and D-Wade, we have the Heat ****ed. They have a relatively weak bench in Doleac, Butler, Dooling...**** that about says it all. We proved last year that we can let Shaq score and he's still somewhat undeciding of the final game outcome. Shaq and D-Wade = Shaq and Kobe only a year older and not as good. Wades inexperience in big game situations, Tayshauns on-ball defense/length, and our weak side D should take care of Wade.

Damon Jones and Eddie Jones can both stroke the three and I love Eddie Jones, but they will have a hard time getting off against our perimeter defense (look at Kyle Korver right now...the man led the NBA in 3's this year). Haslem will look like a pedestrian. We are really going to get nasty when we play the Heat. A full house beats 2 of a kind mind you...

Even suggesting that the Spurs would deal with the Stons in 5 is rediculous. Duncans points this year would be like Shaqs 30 and 15 last year. Outside of Duncan, the Spurs dont have one player position for position that is better than the Pistons. They dont have an instant offense/defense guy of the bench like we do in McNice. Their defense, although very good, is still inferior to that of the Stons. We get **** done when it needs to get done. Sheed, Ben, and McNice will limit Duncans impact and our superior bench and all around play will give us the edge in a close 6 game series. I'm positive that there would be a decisive game 5 in which the Stons would impose their defense on the road and would upset the Spurs at home. The Spurs of last year would have stacked up nicely against Detroit, but we absolutely TROUNCED that Lakers team that beat you guys. Stons in 6 baby...
we'll have to wait and see i guess




btw spurs are better :D

So the Pistons got a chance to meet Miami in the Eastern finals or not ?? Do they meet up before the finals?

we'll have to wait and see i guess




btw spurs are better :D


dammit.


dont you love how we're talking about it like its already happening? haha

dammit.


dont you love how we're talking about it like its already happening? haha

yeah, but im sure duncan will do the talking for me ;)






spurs in 5

So the Pistons got a chance to meet Miami in the Eastern finals or not ?? Do they meet up before the finals?


They'd meet in the ECF's and no sooner. I think the Stons will probably play the Celtics in the 2nd round and the Heat will probably play the Wizards.

They'd meet in the ECF's and no sooner. I think the Stons will probably play the Celtics in the 2nd round and the Heat will probably play the Wizards.


Cool. Just the right venue to kick Miami's ass :D

Miami wins a double overtime thriller 108-105.

The Nets now have no possible chance.

Miami wins a double overtime thriller 108-105.

The Nets now have no possible chance.

Wow..poor Nets :eek:

Miami wins a double overtime thriller 108-105.

The Nets now have no possible chance.
the nets have really no chance... just a routinary practice for the heat. heat all the way!!!

not true, 1/8 plays the winner of 4/5 to gauruntee that the 1 seed gets too play a low seed. 2/7 plays 3/6

sorry i could have put my eyeglasses on. yes you're right, i just saw it in nba.com. and to thrilla, p're, wrong info again..

Well outside of Shaq and D-Wade, we have the Heat ****ed. They have a relatively weak bench in Doleac, Butler, Dooling...**** that about says it all. We proved last year that we can let Shaq score and he's still somewhat undeciding of the final game outcome. Shaq and D-Wade = Shaq and Kobe only a year older and not as good. Wades inexperience in big game situations, Tayshauns on-ball defense/length, and our weak side D should take care of Wade.

Damon Jones and Eddie Jones can both stroke the three and I love Eddie Jones, but they will have a hard time getting off against our perimeter defense (look at Kyle Korver right now...the man led the NBA in 3's this year). Haslem will look like a pedestrian. We are really going to get nasty when we play the Heat. A full house beats 2 of a kind mind you...

hey old gringo, you forgot to mention alonzo mourning. he's been playing good basketball the last 2 games!

hey old gringo, you forgot to mention alonzo mourning. he's been playing good basketball the last 2 games!


This is very true. Zo, for all of his diminished skills, is my second favorite player ever. I forgot him since he's only been there for a very short time. He's playing very well right now and that actually would present problems should he continue to play as well as he has. Then again, Antonio McNice is playing like a fuggin all-star off the bench so I think we still have em covered.

This is very true. Zo, for all of his diminished skills, is my second favorite player ever. I forgot him since he's only been there for a very short time. He's playing very well right now and that actually would present problems should he continue to play as well as he has. Then again, Antonio McNice is playing like a fuggin all-star off the bench so I think we still have em covered.
i agree, but it's more than just skills -- it's the heart --- the heart!!

so much for mcdyess's solid play
pistons were outplayed and if the sixers
can get webber going, the pistons could be in some
trouble. the pistons got no help from there bench today and both AI's we exellent

That was a hard fought game tonight man, I mean the sixers came out on a mission and boy did they deliver, AI went off and his teammates help him out tonight, they were just all clicking hopefully this is good thigns to come for them in the series, though I doubt they will be able to come back to win it.

wheres OG? he should have commented on the pistons loss by now :D

anyway if webber and the AI's play like they did last night, they are gonna be tough to beat.... it finally looks like webber fits and that means trouble

The Heat will win it all. Mark my words.

...How about those Mavs?? I had em left for dead.

Yea, things didn't look good for them down 0-2 at home, but I never have completely bought into the Yoa Ming obsession. T-Mac is great, but the Mavs have more talent and should win.

3:30 EST The Heat will destroy what's left of the Nets.

3:30 EST The Heat will destroy what's left of the Nets.
The Pistons will destroy whats left of Miami...:D

3:30 EST The Heat will destroy what's left of the Nets.


And it really doesnt matter who tries what. Shaq just wears everyone down. They can send in anyone in the center position from any team, and he just beats on people. That is why they are going to win the championship.

He can just dish it out to wade, or jones, or jones, or whoever....and its game set match. The way S.A. Played last night, it makes me think that Miami would own their ass if they meet in the finals.

Ya, Detroit KILLED them!

I see the Spurs winning this all the way.

damn the sixers let the game get away...up 9 with six minutes to go. the series is far from over imo, the sixers will take game 5

I have 90 million points says the Heat will beat any other team you care to pick in the playoffs.

Any takers.

The Heat will probably take it all, but they may have trouble with good old Steve Nash.

if miami and detriot figure out in a best of seven eastern championship, who will win? how crucial are these teams style of play match with each other?

for me, the heat hast the materials to win it all, but i think the pistons have a style of their own that can match heat's excellence.

i still have no idea :confused:

if miami and detriot figure out in a best of seven eastern championship, who will win? how crucial are these teams style of play match with each other?

for me, the heat hast the materials to win it all, but i think the pistons have a style of their own that can match heat's excellence.

i still have no idea :confused:

PhoeNix dude phoeNix with a capital N which stands for Nash. ;)

PhoeNix dude phoeNix with a capital N which stands for Nash. ;)
another good topic. we all know how strong phoenix is, and we also know they can reach the western finals... and we also know the spurs are just lurking behind their shadows.

phoenix vs spurs, anyone?

another good topic. we all know how strong phoenix is, and we also know they can reach the western finals... and we also know the spurs are just lurking behind their shadows.

phoenix vs spurs, anyone?

Spurs? Sorry but Duncan is not even half of his form and merely a shadow of himself. Manu cannot do it all by himself. TD must be missing the presence of the Admiral.

Spurs? Sorry but Duncan is not even half of his form and merely a shadow of himself. Manu cannot do it all by himself. TD must be missing the presence of the Admiral.

he is injured right now, if healthy duncan is a top 2 player in the league. as he gets healthier his play will improve and in no way is manu doing it all by himself the spurs play as a team.

Damn that was a scary OT win for Detroit.
Gotta hand it to AI.
But Sheed, Chauncey and Rip came through for the Pistons in the end,,,

Damn that was a scary OT win for Detroit.
Gotta hand it to AI.

indeed, AI showed what a true gentleman of the sport he is. after a heartbreaking defeat he went over to the pistons bench and congratulated everybody.

great athlete, great man

Spurs? Sorry but Duncan is not even half of his form and merely a shadow of himself. Manu cannot do it all by himself. TD must be missing the presence of the Admiral.
so if phoenix does emerge as the western king (logically sound), how will it fair against the heat/pistons (another logical choices)?

those eastern giants will definitely be the measuring standard of toughness.

indeed, AI showed what a true gentleman of the sport he is. after a heartbreaking defeat he went over to the pistons bench and congratulated everybody.

great athlete, great man

Yeah he even hugged the players from Detroit while congratulating them. A class act indeed :cool:

Yeah he even hugged the players from Detroit while congratulating them. A class act indeed :cool:
he was not the AI who first entered the NBA, not a shadow of his bad image

nba sux. i hate profesional basketball and football.

The Pistons are going to win. Hey Fix, its really easy to win when you can't miss. Samuel Dalembert was hitting 18 foot turnaround jumpers with Sheed in his face....theres nothing you can do about it. Anyway, The Stons are still rolling *****es.

The Pistons are going to win. Hey Fix, its really easy to win when you can't miss. Samuel Dalembert was hitting 18 foot turnaround jumpers with Sheed in his face....theres nothing you can do about it. Anyway, The Stons are still rolling *****es.

im surprised how well the sixers played the last two games, i think they are gonna win game 5...ai is a machine and webber is player better

im surprised how well the sixers played the last two games, i think they are gonna win game 5...ai is a machine and webber is player better


False...Chauncey Billups owns the Sixers.

<---- Wicket doesnt appreciate you talkin all this jibba-jabba turkey jive fix...

False...Chauncey Billups owns the Sixers.

<---- Wicket doesnt appreciate you talkin all this jibba-jabba turkey jive fix...

lmao aint that the little dude form star wars


but seriously AI owns the pistons and if the sixers had a better system that gets more touches for webber they'd be serious contenders. phil jackson should bring the triangle offense to philly. that way webber could be shaq, ander igodala could be derek fisher and AI could be kobe. and than for kicks you could have korver as glen rice for threes from the corner

I have a 500 million dollar bet with Jose...he has the Suns and I of course put the smart money on the Pistons.

What you guys are failing to understand is that we now have the best starting 5 in the league and our ENTIRE BENCH (also the best) is back. Everyones healthy...the rest of the league is ****ed...

If you can name 5 players on a team that are better than the starting 5 on the Pistons then ill give you 20 mil...im talking about 5 whole players...not 3.

The playoffs are a whole different animal and thats when the Stunners step it up.

Is this a trick question?

PG- Nash/Billups
SG- Johnson/Hamilton
SF- Richardson/Prince
PF- Marion/R Wallace
C- Stoudemire/B Wallace

and there you have it.

Is this a trick question?

PG- Nash/Billups
SG- Johnson/Hamilton
SF- Richardson/Prince
PF- Marion/R Wallace
C- Stoudemire/B Wallace

and there you have it.


False...Nash>Billups
Hamilton>Johnson
Prince>Richardson
Marion>Wallace
Wallace > or = to Stoudamire

That **** aint up for debate.

lmao aint that the little dude form star wars


but seriously AI owns the pistons and if the sixers had a better system that gets more touches for webber they'd be serious contenders. phil jackson should bring the triangle offense to philly. that way webber could be shaq, ander igodala could be derek fisher and AI could be kobe. and than for kicks you could have korver as glen rice for threes from the corner


Your sig and av are tight...I was gonna make a poll to see what everyones favorite Wu song was.

False...Nash>Billups
Hamilton>Johnson
Prince>Richardson
Marion>Wallace
Wallace > or = to Stoudamire

That **** aint up for debate.


You must be crazy

04/05 stats
Quinton Richardson
PPG 14.9
RPG 6.10

Tayshaun Prince
PPG 14.7
RPG 5.30

Not only does Q have better numbers this year, but through out his entire career aswell.

Im sorry did you just say Ben Wallace is better than Amare? Are you OK? Do you need to go lay down? Might be all that Pistons Kool-Aid you've been drinking.

There is not a GM in the NBA who would take Ben Wallace over Amare and to even suggest so is crazy.

I might give you Rip

You must be crazy

04/05 stats
Quinton Richardson
PPG 14.9
RPG 6.10

Tayshaun Prince
PPG 14.7
RPG 5.30

Not only does Q have better numbers this year, but through out his entire career aswell.

Im sorry did you just say Ben Wallace is better than Amare? Are you OK? Do you need to go lay down? Might be all that Pistons Kool-Aid you've been drinking.

There is not a GM in the NBA who would take Ben Wallace over Amare and to even suggest so is crazy.

I might give you Rip


Welcome back bro!.................. :eek:

Is this a trick question?

PG- Nash/Billups
SG- Johnson/Hamilton
SF- Richardson/Prince
PF- Marion/R Wallace
C- Stoudemire/B Wallace

and there you have it.
nice match-up :cool:

You must be crazy

04/05 stats
Quinton Richardson
PPG 14.9
RPG 6.10

Tayshaun Prince
PPG 14.7
RPG 5.30

Not only does Q have better numbers this year, but through out his entire career aswell.

Im sorry did you just say Ben Wallace is better than Amare? Are you OK? Do you need to go lay down? Might be all that Pistons Kool-Aid you've been drinking.

There is not a GM in the NBA who would take Ben Wallace over Amare and to even suggest so is crazy.

I might give you Rip


Please....who just won the defensive player of the year, broke the Pistons record for blocked shots, AND is one of only 5 players ever to record 100 steals and 100 blocks in 5 consecutive seasons? What the **** did Amare do this year besides dunk the ball a lot as a result of Steve Nash? Jose, you gotta get this offensive mindset outta here...Quentin Richardson can make 5 3's a game but he cant D up like Tayshaun can. Once he starts limiting Kobe Bryant in an NBA final and D'ing up the best guys in the league on a regular basis you can come at me like that. Numbers are real cheap man...that entire statement was fugazi...

Your sig and av are tight...I was gonna make a poll to see what everyones favorite Wu song was.

thanks i jacked the sig from another site and added my name

my fav wu song is triumph and cream is second but they got some classics.


and your stupid pistons won today.....ai played well but the pistons were too much. im gonna love the pistons-pacers second round, security is going to be crazy.....they should let artest back just for this series alone.

i guess its only a matter of time before the spurs hand the pistons there ass.

You guys see that Riddnauer move then pass?

that was sweet as hell. Straight up globetrotter **** there.

thanks i jacked the sig from another site and added my name

my fav wu song is triumph and cream is second but they got some classics.


and your stupid pistons won today.....ai played well but the pistons were too much. im gonna love the pistons-pacers second round, security is going to be crazy.....they should let artest back just for this series alone.

i guess its only a matter of time before the spurs hand the pistons there ass.


Ahhh you ****er...anyway, Ben Wallace would ****ing kill Artest if he came back. That **** aint up for debate. It'll be a good series if the Pacers get by the Celtics.

Ahhh you ****er...anyway, Ben Wallace would ****ing kill Artest if he came back. That **** aint up for debate. It'll be a good series if the Pacers get by the Celtics.

the pacers are up 3-2 going back to indy, i think they'll wrap up the series there.

artest would mess up wallace....QB's finest

the pacers are up 3-2 going back to indy, i think they'll wrap up the series there.

artest would mess up wallace....QB's finest


You know what...it was a good CD...but Artest looked like he saw the Holy Ghost when Wallace pushed him. Wallace is a raw muf****a from bama/VA. He'd ****ing destroy Artest and anyone else in the NBA.

Please....who just won the defensive player of the year, broke the Pistons record for blocked shots, AND is one of only 5 players ever to record 100 steals and 100 blocks in 5 consecutive seasons? What the **** did Amare do this year besides dunk the ball a lot as a result of Steve Nash? Jose, you gotta get this offensive mindset outta here...Quentin Richardson can make 5 3's a game but he cant D up like Tayshaun can. Once he starts limiting Kobe Bryant in an NBA final and D'ing up the best guys in the league on a regular basis you can come at me like that. Numbers are real cheap man...that entire statement was fugazi...


pffft

Oh yeah Ben Wallace plays defense and well...well....well.

Amare is 22 years old, a freak athlete, has developed a money 15 footer and is getting better by leaps and bounds every day.

Yeah your right Q is not better than Prince he just puts up better numbers. Please dont give me that bull**** about him stopping Kobe. The Lakers self destructed last year and everyone knows it.

pffft

Oh yeah Ben Wallace plays defense and well...well....well.

Amare is 22 years old, a freak athlete, has developed a money 15 footer and is getting better by leaps and bounds every day.

Yeah your right Q is not better than Prince he just puts up better numbers. Please dont give me that bull**** about him stopping Kobe. The Lakers self destructed last year and everyone knows it.


False again. Tayshaun has developed into one of the best ON-BALL defenders, as well as weak side (I.E. Reggie Miller block in the ECF's last year). Tayshaun finished 5th in the defensive player of the year voting this year...you aren't giving enough credit for defense. If offense was everything then the Mavs would win it every year. The only good defender on YOUR Suns is Shawn Marion. You know that half-court dominates in the playoffs...exactly why the Spurs will beat your Suns.

Take that Q over Tayshaun argument elsewhere. Tayshaun had a career year on BOTH sides of the ball this year and he's getting better every game. But you're right, that 5 game sweep was ALL LAKERS...the Pistons amazing play had NOTHING to do with it.

Ben Wallace is better than Amare, I really don't know where you are coming from with the argument. Amare is a freak and a good player, but Ben Wallace is the heart of his team and is the BEST defensive player in the NBA. If Amare was the best offensive player then you could come at me with that argument, but Ben is having a career year in the playoffs and has set team records in the reg. season.

False again. Tayshaun has developed into one of the best ON-BALL defenders, as well as weak side (I.E. Reggie Miller block in the ECF's last year). Tayshaun finished 5th in the defensive player of the year voting this year...you aren't giving enough credit for defense. If offense was everything then the Mavs would win it every year. The only good defender on YOUR Suns is Shawn Marion. You know that half-court dominates in the playoffs...exactly why the Spurs will beat your Suns.

Take that Q over Tayshaun argument elsewhere. Tayshaun had a career year on BOTH sides of the ball this year and he's getting better every game. But you're right, that 5 game sweep was ALL LAKERS...the Pistons amazing play had NOTHING to do with it.

Ben Wallace is better than Amare, I really don't know where you are coming from with the argument. Amare is a freak and a good player, but Ben Wallace is the heart of his team and is the BEST defensive player in the NBA. If Amare was the best offensive player then you could come at me with that argument, but Ben is having a career year in the playoffs and has set team records in the reg. season.


You obviously aint seen Joe Johnson play defense then.

Yes Prince had a career year and his numbers still weren't better than Q's. By the way Q aint exactly a bum on defense either and is a much better low post player than Prince

I dont know where the hell your coming from. There aint one GM in the NBA who would take Ben Wallace over Amare and thats just commen sense.

Dont forget Amare is only 22 years old. Ben plays great D and give you nothing on offense, Amare plays nice D and can drop 30 on you like its nothing. If your still on that all Amare does is dunk BS you really need to find a new argument the kid is money from 15 feet

You know what...it was a good CD...but Artest looked like he saw the Holy Ghost when Wallace pushed him. Wallace is a raw muf****a from bama/VA. He'd ****ing destroy Artest and anyone else in the NBA.

never heard artests cd(didnt know he released it yet) but QB's finest was tight. i just said that cause artest is from QB and nas even thanked him on I am.

wallace would catch a beat down from sir charles and karl malone both them guys were tough as ****..... id say shaq but barkley took that dude down. i gots a fight vid from the nba.....ill upload it later, charlie ward(might have been chris childs) fed kobe a two piece and **** lol

You obviously aint seen Joe Johnson play defense then.

Yes Prince had a career year and his numbers still weren't better than Q's. By the way Q aint exactly a bum on defense either and is a much better low post player than Prince

I dont know where the hell your coming from. There aint one GM in the NBA who would take Ben Wallace over Amare and thats just commen sense.

Dont forget Amare is only 22 years old. Ben plays great D and give you nothing on offense, Amare plays nice D and can drop 30 on you like its nothing. If your still on that all Amare does is dunk BS you really need to find a new argument the kid is money from 15 feet


Jose, this **** is fugazi....

You know that Joe Dumars is the best GM in the league...and he took a chance on a 6'8 1/2 power forward from Orlando to play on his team...and he turned into a 3 time defensive player of the year. Dumars can't be touched as far as GM's go...so much for that argument.

Numbers are cheap. I provided those critical stats and you're giving me sugar coated regular season numbers on Quentin Richardson. Sorry, but you know i'm right about Tay tay...

Ben Wallace is averaging 13.3 points (somewhere in this range) ppg in the playoffs. And you're telling me that he gives you nothing on offense...the truth of the matter is that he doesn't have to because everyone else picks up the slack.

never heard artests cd(didnt know he released it yet) but QB's finest was tight. i just said that cause artest is from QB and nas even thanked him on I am.

wallace would catch a beat down from sir charles and karl malone both them guys were tough as ****..... id say shaq but barkley took that dude down. i gots a fight vid from the nba.....ill upload it later, charlie ward(might have been chris childs) fed kobe a two piece and **** lol


yeah qb's finest was sick...real niccas and the bridge were dope as ****.

the second part of your statement is false. ben wallace is raw as hell...ben is a monster. he'd whoop both of their asses. ive already posted my opinion on the FF section.

Jose, this **** is fugazi....

You know that Joe Dumars is the best GM in the league...and he took a chance on a 6'8 1/2 power forward from Orlando to play on his team...and he turned into a 3 time defensive player of the year. Dumars can't be touched as far as GM's go...so much for that argument.

Numbers are cheap. I provided those critical stats and you're giving me sugar coated regular season numbers on Quentin Richardson. Sorry, but you know i'm right about Tay tay...

Ben Wallace is averaging 13.3 points (somewhere in this range) ppg in the playoffs. And you're telling me that he gives you nothing on offense...the truth of the matter is that he doesn't have to because everyone else picks up the slack.

who said anything about Dumars?

Took a chance my ass, got lucky is more like it. That was a sign and trade and the only reason it happend like that was so Hill could get the most money possible. It wasn'y like they were sitting back saying yeah were gonna trade Grant Hill for Ben Wallace.

Like I said NOTHING on offense

who said anything about Dumars?

Took a chance my ass, got lucky is more like it. That was a sign and trade and the only reason it happend like that was so Hill could get the most money possible. It wasn'y like they were sitting back saying yeah were gonna trade Grant Hill for Ben Wallace.

Like I said NOTHING on offense


Who gives a **** about offense...AGAIN...if offense were everything like you're making it out to be then the mavs would win the title every year and Bill Russell wouldn't be one of then 10 greatest to ever do it.

You said that there aint 1 GM in the league who would take Ben over Amare and I beg to differ. I think that the best GM in the league hands down (Joe Dumars) would take a guy with great D and heart over Amare. Ben is there when it counts...again...what has Amare done to be in Ben Wallaces class? He hasn't won a title let alone a prestigious award like defensive player of the year 3 times. Ben is just better and I'd take him right now over Amare any day.

Who gives a **** about offense...AGAIN...if offense were everything like you're making it out to be then the mavs would win the title every year and Bill Russell wouldn't be one of then 10 greatest to ever do it.

You said that there aint 1 GM in the league who would take Ben over Amare and I beg to differ. I think that the best GM in the league hands down (Joe Dumars) would take a guy with great D and heart over Amare. Ben is there when it counts...again...what has Amare done to be in Ben Wallaces class? He hasn't won a title let alone a prestigious award like defensive player of the year 3 times. Ben is just better and I'd take him right now over Amare any day.


Bull****. DO NOT forget the league was not always like this. It didn't get like this until the last few years as the quality og NBA players went downhill.

Yes Bill Russell is great, but so is Wilt.

Joe would take Amare everday of the week. Dont even ****ing try and play that he hasn't acomplished bull**** Amare has been in the league 3 years. are you trying to tell me Amare doesn't have heart?

Stoudamire is just starting to scratch his potential now that he has a true PG to work with

How about comparing Ben Wallace to Dennis Rodman? Who's better? (Who's got better hair?)

yeah qb's finest was sick...real niccas and the bridge were dope as ****.

the second part of your statement is false. ben wallace is raw as hell...ben is a monster. he'd whoop both of their asses. ive already posted my opinion on the FF section.
malone and barkley were old school they didnt take bull****. plus malone let them elbows go, look what he did to david robinson and isiah thomas... he knocked them on thier ass. karl malone was nasty when he played.

How about comparing Ben Wallace to Dennis Rodman? Who's better? (Who's got better hair?)

rodman is one of....if not the best rebounder ever. wes unseld was very good as well.

malone and barkley were old school they didnt take bull****. plus malone let them elbows go, look what he did to david robinson and isiah thomas... he knocked them on thier ass. karl malone was nasty when he played.


I've already been over this with him. I keep telling Sir Charles would stomp a mudhole in Big Ben's ass, but as far as OG goes Ben is our lord and savior.

How about comparing Ben Wallace to Dennis Rodman? Who's better? (Who's got better hair?)


Rodman by far. Everyone talks about how great of a rebounder Wallace is, but he gets about 12/13 a game when Rodman was in his prime he was getting 18/19 a game.

Rodman could also defend all 5 positions.

I've already been over this with him. I keep telling Sir Charles would stomp a mudhole in Big Ben's ass, but as far as OG goes Ben is our lord and savior.

barkley was a beast, even though he was only 6'4 there wasnt many players tougher than he was.... he took down shaq :eek:

barkley was a beast, even though he was only 6'4 there wasnt many players tougher than he was.... he took down shaq :eek:
He is more of beast now. What does he weigh like 600 pounds?

He is more of beast now. What does he weigh like 600 pounds?
lol i think he is like 350 now but he is retired and he doesnt give a ****

A good halfcourt team with strong defense has always dominated the NBA. Show me an instance where i'm wrong on that and ill shut up. Every great team is like this Whatchu talkin about the league hasn't always been like this? Like what?

Oh sure Joe Dumars RIGHT NOW would take amare over Ben. Pfff...Amare has nothing on Ben...kinda like how Joe took Darko over Melo. I'd take defense over offense any day. Give me the Patriots over the Colts and the Pistons over the Suns.

I know that Charles and Karl were beasts. Charles is one of my 5 favorite players ever...and he held his own against some big mother****ers despite being 6'4 & 1/2...but Ben Wallace would merc his ass. Damn I have to find a picture of Artests face after Wallace threw his ass. Dudes from QB and he wanted nothing to do with Ben. Good example is when J. O'Neal threw a punch at Corliss last year and hit Ben right in the face on accident. Ben took it and looked at him like he was nothing. You *****es are just jealous because DETROIT BASKETBALLLLLLL is going to repeat and bring the title back home this year. :cool:

Rodman by far. Everyone talks about how great of a rebounder Wallace is, but he gets about 12/13 a game when Rodman was in his prime he was getting 18/19 a game.

Rodman could also defend all 5 positions.


Rodman was better...but you know whats funny...3 of the great defenders and rebounders of the last 15 years come through detroit. Joe D, Rodman, Ben...soon to be tay tay.

What a buzzer beater by Gilbert Arenas.

A good halfcourt team with strong defense has always dominated the NBA. Show me an instance where i'm wrong on that and ill shut up. Every great team is like this Whatchu talkin about the league hasn't always been like this? Like what?

Oh sure Joe Dumars RIGHT NOW would take amare over Ben. Pfff...Amare has nothing on Ben...kinda like how Joe took Darko over Melo. I'd take defense over offense any day. Give me the Patriots over the Colts and the Pistons over the Suns.

I know that Charles and Karl were beasts. Charles is one of my 5 favorite players ever...and he held his own against some big mother****ers despite being 6'4 & 1/2...but Ben Wallace would merc his ass. Damn I have to find a picture of Artests face after Wallace threw his ass. Dudes from QB and he wanted nothing to do with Ben. Good example is when J. O'Neal threw a punch at Corliss last year and hit Ben right in the face on accident. Ben took it and looked at him like he was nothing. You *****es are just jealous because DETROIT BASKETBALLLLLLL is going to repeat and bring the title back home this year. :cool:

lol FALSE.... artest would get beat down by wallace but malone and charles would slap ben around.

San Antonio basketball is going to win its third championship in like 7 years, thats damn near half...talk about dominant. tim duncan is going to put up 25 and 12 on your boy ben. i actually cant wait for the finals.

i think what he meant by saying the league hasnt always been like this is that offense ruled the 80's. games were like all star games, they cared more about offense than defense.

A good halfcourt team with strong defense has always dominated the NBA. Show me an instance where i'm wrong on that and ill shut up. Every great team is like this Whatchu talkin about the league hasn't always been like this? Like what?

Oh sure Joe Dumars RIGHT NOW would take amare over Ben. Pfff...Amare has nothing on Ben...kinda like how Joe took Darko over Melo. I'd take defense over offense any day. Give me the Patriots over the Colts and the Pistons over the Suns.

I know that Charles and Karl were beasts. Charles is one of my 5 favorite players ever...and he held his own against some big mother****ers despite being 6'4 & 1/2...but Ben Wallace would merc his ass. Damn I have to find a picture of Artests face after Wallace threw his ass. Dudes from QB and he wanted nothing to do with Ben. Good example is when J. O'Neal threw a punch at Corliss last year and hit Ben right in the face on accident. Ben took it and looked at him like he was nothing. You *****es are just jealous because DETROIT BASKETBALLLLLLL is going to repeat and bring the title back home this year. :cool:


um....Showtime Lakers

rodman is one of....if not the best rebounder ever. wes unseld was very good as well.

i will say moses malone is the best rebounder ever.

Rockets Still Alive!

The Rockets better stay alive too, at least until the second round when I'd love to see T-Mac lose and lose bad.

I only want them to win the first round because I feel for my man Jeff Van Gundy.

i will say moses malone is the best rebounder ever.
he was good too but unseld wasnt as big as malone and averaged more rebounds per game in his career.


moses malone................wes unseld
6'10................................6'7
260................................245
12.1 rpg.............................14.0

wizards won, im glad too..... i cant stand chicago.
there going to be a nice test for the heat before they meet the pistons in the 3rd round.

U can't stand Chicago?? Damn I hate that they lost, their my home team and I've been following them all year, it's a ***** because they turned around a bad season into a good one, but hey, they went pretty far with all the injuries they had so I'am not upset that they didn't make it to the second round because if they do I knew they'd get killed, they'd have no Curry to compete with Shaq down low.

U can't stand Chicago?? Damn I hate that they lost, their my home team and I've been following them all year, it's a ***** because they turned around a bad season into a good one, but hey, they went pretty far with all the injuries they had so I'am not upset that they didn't make it to the second round because if they do I knew they'd get killed, they'd have no Curry to compete with Shaq down low.

yeah i hated them cause they went 72-10 and every stan in the world was hangin from scottie and mj's nutsack. i actually didnt mind them this year cause i like the group of players they have and ben gordan is a nice player but one of my fav players is antawn jamison(most under rated player in the league hands down) and he is on the wizards

its gonna be Suns vs Heat Finals.

I'd pick Suns though!

its gonna be Suns vs Heat Finals.

I'd pick Suns though!

I agree to an extent. While I'd like to see the Suns take it because I'm Canadian and want Nash to win, I don't think they can handle Shaq and Wade.

its either going to be a pistons vs spurs final or a heat vs spurs final....either way the spurs will not lose.

Damn the Celts got blown the **** out.

Showtime Lakes were still great defensively and were very good in the half court. What do you think big game james and kareem were all about. They just happened to be a good running team as well. Maybe the best ever....

The Pistons have a second round bye so thats good. The depleted Pacers won't be able to stand up. Well rested Pistons over the Heat in 6 and over the Spurs in 6 as well. Fix quit frontin and admit that the Stons are going to repeat.

Damn the Celts got blown the **** out.

Showtime Lakes were still great defensively and were very good in the half court. What do you think big game james and kareem were all about. They just happened to be a good running team as well. Maybe the best ever....

The Pistons have a second round bye so thats good. The depleted Pacers won't be able to stand up. Well rested Pistons over the Heat in 6 and over the Spurs in 6 as well. Fix quit frontin and admit that the Stons are going to repeat.

i admit that the pistons will once again...............LOSE.

yeah thats right the spurs will send them packing if the heat dont do it for them.

i admit that the pistons will once again...............LOSE.

yeah thats right the spurs will send them packing if the heat dont do it for them.


whatever...you gotta take it from us because were the defending champs. i can rest easy tonight because i know that any weak layups will be sent back by either tayshaun or lindsey (did you see lindseys block on AI in game 5?) our defense is going to squash you.

whatever...you gotta take it from us because were the defending champs. i can rest easy tonight because i know that any weak layups will be sent back by either tayshaun or lindsey (did you see lindseys block on AI in game 5?) our defense is going to squash you.

who had the number 1 defense in the league this year? :D








oh yeah it was the spurs.....


btw i remember you sayin that you didnt really think common's new album was a classic...what did you mean by that? like further explain....i just want to get another persons opinion.
i thought it was really good and deserves 5 mics..... commons lyrics were on point, the beats were hot and it surpassed anything that was released this year except maybe the testament by cormega(which was just unreleased stuff def jam had shelved in 95). i honestly think its the best album since a long hot summer.

rockets played like pure ass and got beat down. other than t-mac and yao the rockets scored just 16 points :eek: thats just brutal...... the charlotte bobcats would have smoked(by at least 20) the rockets that played tonight.

OMG Dallas spanks Houston by 40 points, and Dirk only had 14 points and the flu,LMAO off to round 2 we go vs suns

Story (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap;_ylc=X3oDMTBpZmFlcXBpBF9TAzk1ODYxOTQ4BHNlYwN 0aA--?gid=2005050706&prov=ap)

rockets played like pure ass and got beat down. other than t-mac and yao the rockets scored just 16 points :eek: thats just brutal...... the charlotte bobcats would have smoked(by at least 20) the rockets that played tonight.
Same can be said about my Celtics.

OMG Dallas spanks Houston by 40 points, and Dirk only had 14 points and the flu,LMAO off to round 2 we go vs suns

Story (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap;_ylc=X3oDMTBpZmFlcXBpBF9TAzk1ODYxOTQ4BHNlYwN 0aA--?gid=2005050706&prov=ap)

I don't think the Mavs have what it takes to stop the MVP. They should have just held on to him in the first place. Go steve!

i admit that the pistons will once again...............LOSE.

yeah thats right the spurs will send them packing if the heat dont do it for them.

You're both wrong. Shaq is on a mission this year, he will not be stopped.

Same can be said about my Celtics.

yeah they didnt show up for the second half... they were only down by like 5 at the half.

Pistons-Pacers anew. Gud luk Miller & co. :D
By the way...Nash deserves the MVP 100% ;)

Uh-oh, here comes miami, they had just open a 1-0 lead over washington. i hope pistons did the same thing for indiana. but it's tougher beating indiana than miami beating washington.

Pistons-Pacers anew. Gud luk Miller & co. :D
By the way...Nash deserves the MVP 100% ;)
i agree on this ;)

it's heat vs pistons

look, the real mvp is here:

http://rhein-zeitung.de/on/00/05/10/sport/news/shaq-mvp.jpg

Anybody who doesn't think that their team is going to be ****ed up by the Suns better check out my thread.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35381

Miami is *****es. Shaq blew my ****.
Detroit is gunna take it in the ass from Nash.

Im sorry but anyone trying to argue Shaq for MVP this year is crazy.

Shaq his worst statistical year of his career. He has had MUCH better years in the past. If that trade never hapens guess what? The Heat are still in the same position they are now the 2nd best team in the East.

Dont give methat bull**** about them having the best record in the East either especially when Detriot and the Pacers took themselves out of that race with all the suspensions.

The Heat last year were a playoff team that made it to the second round

The Suns didn't even make the playoffs.

also my god stop with the garbage about how the Lakers suck without Shaq. The Lakers also lost Karl Malone, Gary Payton, Derick Fisher and Phil Jackson its a completly different team..

Im sorry but anyone trying to argue Shaq for MVP this year is crazy.

Shaq his worst statistical year of his career. He has had MUCH better years in the past. If that trade never hapens guess what? The Heat are still in the same position they are now the 2nd best team in the East.

Dont give methat bull**** about them having the best record in the East either especially when Detriot and the Pacers took themselves out of that race with all the suspensions.

The Heat last year were a playoff team that made it to the second round

The Suns didn't even make the playoffs.

also my god stop with the garbage about how the Lakers suck without Shaq. The Lakers also lost Karl Malone, Gary Payton, Derick Fisher and Phil Jackson its a completly different team..
nash had a solid year but john stockton had that type of season year in and year out, where are his mvp's?

obviously stats didnt count this year but it was more based on impact, imo shaq had the greater impact. there is no way the heat would be this good without shaq, to argue that they would be is insane. heat are arguably the best team in the east and they are vastly improved from last year. also the impact for detroit wasnt nearly as severe for them as the pacers, wallace only got 5 games... thats it. heat finished ahead of the pistons in the standings and even if you award the pistons the 5 games they might have lost with wallace in suspension they are still tied for tops in the east. i cant believe how even now shaq is overlooked. i guess winning 3 rings, 3 finals mvps and making every team you play on a legit contender doesnt earn you respect from the press when taking into account for mvp voting. the guy only has one ring and he has been dominating since he got into the league. right now iam rooting for the heat to win the title, because it would be a slap in the face to all his doubters.

nash had a solid year but john stockton had that type of season year in and year out, where are his mvp's?

obviously stats didnt count this year but it was more based on impact

you answered your own question. it was nash's impact that is more valuable than of shaq's. the suns were like **** last season.... when nash arrived, he provided stability and order in court, was like the general. without nash, amare and the rest played like chickens without their heads -- no direction at all. that was nash's great contribution.

however in shaq's case, he may have provided threat in the post. but it was wade who provided firepower and jones with defensive acumen. i mean, shaq is great.... but still his team can enter the playoffs even without him. it is alot different in the sun's case

look, the real mvp is here:

http://rhein-zeitung.de/on/00/05/10/sport/news/shaq-mvp.jpg
you got to be kidding me.... this is heat's MVP:

http://www.nba.com/media/act_dwyane_wade.jpg

you answered your own question. it was nash's impact that is more valuable than of shaq's. the suns were like **** last season.... when nash arrived, he provided stability and order in court, was like the general. without nash, amare and the rest played like chickens without their heads -- no direction at all. that was nash's great contribution.

however in shaq's case, he may have provided threat in the post. but it was wade who provided firepower and jones with defensive acumen. i mean, shaq is great.... but still his team can enter the playoffs even without him. it is alot different in the sun's case
then why didnt quentin richardson get some mvp votes? he came to pheonix this year, why not him :rolleyes:

shaq is more valuable to his team than any player in the league excluding nobody. without shaq, the heat arent nearly as competitive. as far as amare, he has come into his own this year dont forget this is only his third year in the league, whos to say that the suns success isnt relative to his improvments and not nash's choice to come to pheonix. imo pheonix has to many good players for one to be singled out for an award that represents the player most valuable to his team.

then why didnt quentin richardson get some mvp votes? he came to pheonix this year, why not him :rolleyes:


look at this:

you put in q.richardson, amare, marion, johnson, barbosa (instead of nash) and they play like ****

you put in d. jones, e.jones, wade, haslem, and mourning (instead of shaq) and they are still very competitive


get my point?

look at this:

you put in q.richardson, amare, marion, johnson, barbosa (instead of nash) and they play like ****

you put in d. jones, e.jones, wade, haslem, and mourning (instead of shaq) and they are still very competitive


get my point?

maybe the heat would be competitive for a quarter and then amare would abuse mourning for 40 points. player for player the suns guys are better than the heats with the exception of dwayne wade.

you got to be kidding me.... this is heat's MVP:

http://www.nba.com/media/act_dwyane_wade.jpg

and how many open shots did wade have when teams were double teaming shaq? a whole hell of a lot, thats what shaq brings to a team... shaq could put up 12 points and still have been the deciding factor in a game.

maybe the heat would be competitive for a quarter and then amare would abuse mourning for 40 points. player for player the suns guys are better than the heats with the exception of dwayne wade.
my point is that, the suns are talented indeed, but what's with talent without direction? when you put nash in the bench, the rest of the suns become individual players as what their talents are really are.

the heat has alot of players who play excellent team game and alot of them are disciplined team players, with or without shaq.

my point is that, the suns are talented indeed, but what's with talent without direction? when you put nash in the bench, the rest of the suns become individual players as what their talents are really are.

the heat has alot of players who play excellent team game and alot of them are disciplined team players, with or without shaq.

thats poor coaching not great playing. a coach is supposed to get the most out of each individual player and not let a team collapse when a key player goes down.

thats poor coaching not great playing. a coach is supposed to get the most out of each individual player and not let a team collapse when a key player goes down.
and this is what nash's intangibles show....

not only that his value emanates from his individual skills, but most importantly, he provides leadership and order over his teammates. his coach may lack the consummate skills of stan van gundy, but nash gives more than what his coach ask him to do.... be the player/coach in the court.

The sonics are getting clobbered... Poor fools, they're definitely getting a big man next year.

The sonics are getting clobbered... Poor fools, they're definitely getting a big man next year.
unless they can get a good one in the draft, the sonics will most likely try to keep ray allen before getting a big man. if jerome james could play like he did against sacremento they wouldnt need a big man but he only shows up when he wants to.

unless they can get a good one in the draft, the sonics will most likely try to keep ray allen before getting a big man. if jerome james could play like he did against sacremento they wouldnt need a big man but he only shows up when he wants to.
we share the same observation.... i think they should keep ray allen and add a big man who can play the role of a big man, doesn't have to be dominating but someone with dedication and good work ethics

Its sad how overlooked Shawn Marion is by Suns fans and people who just speak on the Suns in general. He's their rock...does everything well and is still getting better. The Suns without Nash are still a playoff team, but they'd get bounced in the first or second round...

The Heat wouldn't be for real without Shaq. The only good thing Skip Bayless has ever said in his life came when he was speaking about why Shaq didn't win the MVP. Voters are always looking for the seasons overachiever to win the MVP...they constantly overlook Shaq because basketball should be so easy for him because of his size. Nash put up relatively weak numbers for an MVP and is always a liability on defense. Any scoring or strong PG takes Nash to school any day of the week. He had an incredible year for him no doubt, but MVP over Shaq? Not in my book. Shaq had his weakest statistical season ever and still deserves it IMO.

The Heat without Shaq are a playoff team too but have life and death struggles with their first round series and get bounced in the second round. Damon Jones banks off his ability to shoot threes as a result of all of the attention being put on Diesel. Eddie Jones is a good perimeter defender but is old now and really relies on the 3-ball and presence of Shaq as well. I've said my peace...

unless they can get a good one in the draft, the sonics will most likely try to keep ray allen before getting a big man. if jerome james could play like he did against sacremento they wouldnt need a big man but he only shows up when he wants to.


Jerome James had the series of his life...but it was against Kenny Thomas and Daruis Songaila. You can't pull that heist against Tim Duncan. He ain't gonna do sheeat.

Its sad how overlooked Shawn Marion is by Suns fans and people who just speak on the Suns in general. He's their rock...does everything well and is still getting better. The Suns without Nash are still a playoff team, but they'd get bounced in the first or second round...

The Heat wouldn't be for real without Shaq. The only good thing Skip Bayless has ever said in his life came when he was speaking about why Shaq didn't win the MVP. Voters are always looking for the seasons overachiever to win the MVP...they constantly overlook Shaq because basketball should be so easy for him because of his size. Nash put up relatively weak numbers for an MVP and is always a liability on defense. Any scoring or strong PG takes Nash to school any day of the week. He had an incredible year for him no doubt, but MVP over Shaq? Not in my book. Shaq had his weakest statistical season ever and still deserves it IMO.

The Heat without Shaq are a playoff team too but have life and death struggles with their first round series and get bounced in the second round. Damon Jones banks off his ability to shoot threes as a result of all of the attention being put on Diesel. Eddie Jones is a good perimeter defender but is old now and really relies on the 3-ball and presence of Shaq as well. I've said my peace...
finally someone sees it my way.
btw did gilbert arenas get any votes for mvp cause he was excellent this year for washington.
i seen pj brown got a vote for mvp :D i hope arenas got more than him

Its sad how overlooked Shawn Marion is by Suns fans and people who just speak on the Suns in general. He's their rock...does everything well and is still getting better. The Suns without Nash are still a playoff team, but they'd get bounced in the first or second round...

The Heat wouldn't be for real without Shaq. The only good thing Skip Bayless has ever said in his life came when he was speaking about why Shaq didn't win the MVP. Voters are always looking for the seasons overachiever to win the MVP...they constantly overlook Shaq because basketball should be so easy for him because of his size. Nash put up relatively weak numbers for an MVP and is always a liability on defense. Any scoring or strong PG takes Nash to school any day of the week. He had an incredible year for him no doubt, but MVP over Shaq? Not in my book. Shaq had his weakest statistical season ever and still deserves it IMO.

The Heat without Shaq are a playoff team too but have life and death struggles with their first round series and get bounced in the second round. Damon Jones banks off his ability to shoot threes as a result of all of the attention being put on Diesel. Eddie Jones is a good perimeter defender but is old now and really relies on the 3-ball and presence of Shaq as well. I've said my peace...


well said
you should be the MVP, og :cool:

Steve Nash, Phoenix 65 54 7 1 0 1066
Shaquille O'Neal, Miami 58 61 3 3 1 1032
Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas 0 4 43 30 16 349
Tim Duncan, San Antonio 1 0 40 33 19 328
Allen Iverson, Philadelphia 2 4 20 23 23 240
LeBron James, Cleveland 0 0 7 11 25 93
Tracy McGrady, Houston 0 1 1 8 8 44
Dwyane Wade, Miami 0 2 2 1 16 43
Ray Allen, Seattle 0 0 2 8 7 41
Amaré Stoudemire, Phoenix 1 1 1 5 4 41
Kevin Garnett, Minnesota 0 0 1 2 4 15
Gilbert Arenas, Washington 0 0 0 1 1 4
Vince Carter, New Jersey 0 0 0 1 0 3
Marcus Camby, Denver 0 0 0 0 1 1
P.J. Brown, New Orleans 0 0 0 0 1 1
Shawn Marion, Phoenix 0 0 0 0 1 1


these are the results for the mvp voting and if nash is so valuable than why are two :eek: of his team mates also included in the mvp race? it doesnt make any sence for him to be mvp.

look at pj brown...i cant believe he got a vote, he didnt do **** and his team sucked.

gilbert arenas should have faired a bit better, he had a good year. 25 ppg and 5 app while leading the wiz to the playoffs, id say he did alright. but then again he didnt deserve to win it cause he had a lot of support just like nash.

wow pistons looked beatable last night, pacers might be tough for them. i hope this series goes 7 games and reggie miller hits the game winning shot with no time on the clock.

wow pistons looked beatable last night, pacers might be tough for them. i hope this series goes 7 games and reggie miller hits the game winning shot with no time on the clock.


I hate you...


No but for real, the Law Firm just decided to take this game off. I seriously never thought I'd be pissed at Ben Wallace, but he got ****ing punked last night by Jeff Douchebag Foster of all people. That was a sad sad performance. Hell Rip sucked it up too. The only people playing were Mr. Big Shot, The Fresh Prince of the Palace, McNice and Sup-Dup.

Another thing that sucks is that I don't have internet access at home right now. I'm back from school so I have to use my sisters slow ass free dial-up ****. I'm getting cable in a few days though so I'll be able to talk immense amounts of **** then. It's sad how the Pistons let everyone think that they have a chance of winning but then just end up punking them in the end.

Steve Nash, Phoenix 65 54 7 1 0 1066
Shaquille O'Neal, Miami 58 61 3 3 1 1032
Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas 0 4 43 30 16 349
Tim Duncan, San Antonio 1 0 40 33 19 328
Allen Iverson, Philadelphia 2 4 20 23 23 240
LeBron James, Cleveland 0 0 7 11 25 93
Tracy McGrady, Houston 0 1 1 8 8 44
Dwyane Wade, Miami 0 2 2 1 16 43
Ray Allen, Seattle 0 0 2 8 7 41
Amaré Stoudemire, Phoenix 1 1 1 5 4 41
Kevin Garnett, Minnesota 0 0 1 2 4 15
Gilbert Arenas, Washington 0 0 0 1 1 4
Vince Carter, New Jersey 0 0 0 1 0 3
Marcus Camby, Denver 0 0 0 0 1 1
P.J. Brown, New Orleans 0 0 0 0 1 1
Shawn Marion, Phoenix 0 0 0 0 1 1


these are the results for the mvp voting and if nash is so valuable than why are two :eek: of his team mates also included in the mvp race? it doesnt make any sence for him to be mvp.

look at pj brown...i cant believe he got a vote, he didnt do **** and his team sucked.

gilbert arenas should have faired a bit better, he had a good year. 25 ppg and 5 app while leading the wiz to the playoffs, id say he did alright. but then again he didnt deserve to win it cause he had a lot of support just like nash.


Its sad how Amare got more votes than Garnett and even got a first place vote. :eek:

Seriously, if you put KG on that Suns team then they are almost ****ing unstoppable and even the Pistons get beat on by them.

I agree about the Nash/Marion/Amare thing. The thing is, I think Marion is the best 2 way player on that team. If you look at his all around numbers for the last 3 years they are phenominal.

Arenas is playing ball this year. I loved him at Zona but I didn't think he'd be **** in the pros because of his ball-handling and range. He proved me wrong though.

I hate you...


No but for real, the Law Firm just decided to take this game off. I seriously never thought I'd be pissed at Ben Wallace, but he got ****ing punked last night by Jeff Douchebag Foster of all people. That was a sad sad performance. Hell Rip sucked it up too. The only people playing were Mr. Big Shot, The Fresh Prince of the Palace, McNice and Sup-Dup.

lol, i watched the game and i was thinking why larry brown wasnt going to his bench more often. i checked the box score and there was like 4 guys he didnt even use who could have been a factor