Whatever your views of how pensioner Bernard Hopkins won his 20th defence, his negative approach to physical conflict did make a bout that was a bit of a damp squib for the majority of spectators.

Now, I'm no real big fan of Hatton, but I know he does bang and doesn't seem to get sick of banging for ten rounds.

I've only seen Costa once (yes, I do know I'm not spelling his name correctly) but he seemed a banger too. But does Costa ever run?

What I'm asking is... will they go toe-to-toe?

I might have a flutter on Ricky... 3-1 odds for him, I reckon he's got a chance. I'm not saying he'll win, I'm saying he's got a chance...

Yes he runs. Find a copy of his fight with Tackie and you will see exactly why he used to be considered a "boring" fighter. He ran away from Tackie for the distance, as well as he does many other people he fights.

His knockouts of Judah, and Mitchell are the most recent fights that give Kostya the stigma of being a devistating power punching pressure fighter. He used to be more of a "pure boxer" believe it or not.

He recieved much criticism for his tactics in that fight, as well as running away from the great JCC.

Kostya doesn't usally trade, per se. He likes to be the only one punching when he tries to land his shots. And yes, he will back up if he deems it necessary. He likes to stay at range, and jab(sometimes more of a pawing jab)so he can find a spot for the right hand. I think it might happen to some extent in this fight though, Hatton just throws alot of punches, plain and simple. For Kostya to land his big shots he'll almost certainly have to do it while Hatton is throwing. Should be a pretty good fight lol

Yeah, Hatton is - I would say "basic" but that sounds derogatory and he's pretty good even though I'm not personally a fan - a standard kind of fighter, isn't he? A banger.

I just want to see a good fight. And Hatton goes for 12, not 10 as I typed above. Mistype.

hey anorak did you see your ''picture'' on the anniversary pics? i thought that was funny stuff lol

Tackie fight was a blow out. Kostya boxed because he wanted to show that he is not just one dimensional slugger. Even after a fight Kostya admitted that he had his opponent in a dream land many times but wanted to go the distance. Also watch the Urkal fight(Urkal was 28-0 at that time) Kostya imploys his boxing tactics with excellence.

Kostya didn't run from JC, he setup his shots wonderfully, if you call that running away, then I'd like to see you run in head on without a plan or something. Ok anyways, also, his fight with Vince Phillips(fight he got knocked down and TKOed), was quite a slugger. That was back in his like 18 and 0 time or around there so I'd have to say by going by that fight, he seems to enjoy slugging and isn't afraid to anyways.

tsyzu is like a bull hes always coming forward......but it gets him into trouble........hurtado knocked tsyzu down twice because he was so anxious and just bulled forward..but for the most part tsyzu is just to strong

tsyzu is like a bull hes always coming forward......

He was moving backwards the entire fight against Ben Tackie.

He was moving backwards the entire fight against Ben Tackie.

When was Tszyu ever considered 'boring'???

Tackie... I watched this fight a week ago & we must have been watching a different fight. Tszyu may have not been going forward all night, but he certainly wasn't running.
Tszyu dominated Tackie. He basically stood where he wanted, jabbed Tackie's head off & never got hit himself. I didn't see one article criticising Tszyu - all I saw were rave reviews saying how Tszyu used his boxing skills to perfection.

Dude... running is what Oscar did for the last few rounds against Tito. Actually turning his back & jogging away. When has Tszyu ever done that?
He didn't run against JCC. And who are the 'many others' that he ran from??? I have nearly every Tszyu fight on tape & can think of only one fight where he went backwards for a good deal of it & that was Ruelas. And while he was 'running', he was outlanding Ruelas nearly 3-1 on punch stats.

When was Tszyu ever considered 'boring'???

Tackie... I watched this fight a week ago & we must have been watching a different fight. Tszyu may have not been going forward all night, but he certainly wasn't running.
Tszyu dominated Tackie. He basically stood where he wanted, jabbed Tackie's head off & never got hit himself. I didn't see one article criticising Tszyu - all I saw were rave reviews saying how Tszyu used his boxing skills to perfection.

Dude... running is what Oscar did for the last few rounds against Tito. Actually turning his back & jogging away. When has Tszyu ever done that?
He didn't run against JCC. And who are the 'many others' that he ran from??? I have nearly every Tszyu fight on tape & can think of only one fight where he went backwards for a good deal of it & that was Ruelas. And while he was 'running', he was outlanding Ruelas nearly 3-1 on punch stats.


Yeah seriously, he doesn't run, and his only backwards movements are because he's setting up something and playing it smart. He's very smart and seems to do everything for a reason. He is without a doubt one of the strongest and smartest boxers of today.

When was Tszyu ever considered 'boring'???

Immediately following him beating Tackie, Farhood wrote an arcticle describing how he does not take any chances as a fighter, and looked hesitant against a mediocre opponent in Tackie. I saw the same thing. Tszyu looking hesitant, and flinching everytime Tackie threw a punch. I think he went overboard, but I realized what he meant.

that is not a Bull



Tszyu may have not been going forward all night, but he certainly wasn't running.
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He was moving backwards the entire fight. He would stop, throw a jab or clinch, then back on the bicycle. Throwing jabs while backing up. He never moved foward. Not "running" persay.
But definitely fits the description of trying to be "evasive". Either you are the aggressor, or you are not.

Im suprised you watched that monstrosity again. I fell asleep after the 1st round. That fight sucked balls. And I used the wrong terminology. Oscar did "run". KT was on the bicycle.

I could never understand though, where people get the idea that he is a "pressure" fighter. He is far from it.

If I can ever get my computer set up to upload fights, I'll send you a bunch of his early fights.

Surely he was pressuring Judah.

tszyu wins easily in less than 5 rounds too strong and too smart
the man can throw the hell out of that right hand

kostya will knock hatton out

I think Kostya will probably win but I am not as certain as I was before after watching a few of their fights. Kostya does not seem to fight well on the inside, which is Hatton's specialty. However, Kostya was right when he said that Hatton doesn't know where he's throwing some of his punches and he could really hurt his hands. The problem is even if Hatton were better than Kostya, Kostya is such a great thinker and has so much heart that it is hard to ever rule him out.

David "The Gaye" Haye. Boxing's biggest fruit salad.I normally hate the homophobia on here but that just cracked me up! :lol1:

zoo usually a pressure fighter, boxed tackie beautifully... very few fighters can change gears like that... i dont think that zoo ran, but moved and boxed instead...

@anorak

where are you seeing odds of 3-1 for hatton???

best i can see to get is 7-4...

3-1 is definetly worth a few quid imo

Now, I'm no real big fan of Hatton, but I know he does bang and doesn't seem to get sick of banging for ten rounds.
I've only seen Costa once (yes, I do know I'm not spelling his name correctly) but he seemed a banger too. But does Costa ever run?
What I'm asking is... will they go toe-to-toe?
I might have a flutter on Ricky... 3-1 odds for him, I reckon he's got a chance. I'm not saying he'll win, I'm saying he's got a chance...


Why did you spell his name Cost A Zoo? That doesnt make sense to me.

Why did you spell his name Cost A Zoo? That doesnt make sense to me.That's how it's pronounced, isn't it? Or am I just being distracted by Limey commentators pronouncing it?

As for 3-1 on Hatton I got it at www.bet365.com. I think I will stake 20 or 30 pounds on that, gotta be worth a flutter, innit?

That's how it's pronounced, isn't it? Or am I just being distracted by Limey commentators pronouncing it?

As for 3-1 on Hatton I got it at www.bet365.com. I think I will stake 20 or 30 pounds on that, gotta be worth a flutter, innit?


I get it now, but it's more like Cost-ya Zoo.

Yes he runs. Find a copy of his fight with Tackie and you will see exactly why he used to be considered a "boring" fighter. He ran away from Tackie for the distance, as well as he does many other people he fights.

His knockouts of Judah, and Mitchell are the most recent fights that give Kostya the stigma of being a devistating power punching pressure fighter. He used to be more of a "pure boxer" believe it or not.

He recieved much criticism for his tactics in that fight, as well as running away from the great JCC.


You must be f#$king dreaming...Kostya Tszyu - running away from JCC. Let me tell you something mate, Kostya Tszyu wouldn't run away from a cruz missile if it was heading straight for his f%#king head!!

Against Tackie he stated that he wanted to put on a boxing exhibition which is exactly what he did. He can do it all whenever & wherever he pleases...the guy is already an all time great at 140 and hopefully he'll go up and fight at 147 after he demolishes Hatton in June.

Just give some credit where credit is due, hater.

I get it now, but it's more like Cost-ya Zoo.
It must be Limies mispronouncing it then... example of a gag literally getting lost in translation.

Cost a Zoo will win, even if his defense isnt the best... hatton is another english overrated bum

hatton aint no chump he's a sound fighter
but he aint a Tszyu beater

Yes he runs. Find a copy of his fight with Tackie and you will see exactly why he used to be considered a "boring" fighter. He ran away from Tackie for the distance, as well as he does many other people he fights.

His knockouts of Judah, and Mitchell are the most recent fights that give Kostya the stigma of being a devistating power punching pressure fighter. He used to be more of a "pure boxer" believe it or not.

He recieved much criticism for his tactics in that fight, as well as running away from the great JCC.

Who considered him a "boring" fighter?
You and your mates?
He is and has always been one of the most dynamic Boxers in recent times, his record shows that.
The "Stigma of being a devastating puncher?" Stigma is not the right term mate.
He is the UNDISPUTED champion at his weight.
He is probably the only fighter that the rest FEAR to fight.
Normally at his age and lack of fights through injury people are lining up to finish you off as a has been.
Who do you think are confident of beating a 35 year old KT?
Lots talk around it, knowing it will not happen easily due to Pay TV contracts, promoters etc.
Once he smashes Hatton whom I am sure he regards as a well paid warm up fight we will see.
Funny if you are not from the American continent you do not seem to rate.
How many of his fights have you seen.
He is Pound for Pound top 5 with everyone.
Nice avatar by the way, thought you would be into Wrestling more.
Cheers :D

Whatever your views of how pensioner Bernard Hopkins won his 20th defence, his negative approach to physical conflict did make a bout that was a bit of a damp squib for the majority of spectators.

Now, I'm no real big fan of Hatton, but I know he does bang and doesn't seem to get sick of banging for ten rounds.

I've only seen Costa once (yes, I do know I'm not spelling his name correctly) but he seemed a banger too. But does Costa ever run?

What I'm asking is... will they go toe-to-toe?

I might have a flutter on Ricky... 3-1 odds for him, I reckon he's got a chance. I'm not saying he'll win, I'm saying he's got a chance...


Big difference between evasion and running.
All good boxers use evasion.
Running implies on the back foot and a loser.
Tzu will not be running from the likes of Hatton I promise.
Hatton will be staring down those big right hands of Tzu all night.
Hatton has only faced mediocre talent and past it journeymen.
If he was any good he would have travelled to fight the best there is.
The truth is he has fought hand picked no hopers in his own back yard to build a record worth nothing in a division that is regarded the bottom WBU.
He is privelaged that the top Light Welterweight is prepared to travel to his patch and fight at an ungodly hour to have a warm up bout.
I would think if Ricky's still standing by 6 he has done ok.
For Tzu its a well paid warm up before he takes on the serious contenders that Ricky perhaps should have fought first.
Ricky is the lest talented of the contenders taking on the King of the Light welterweights. does not make sense to me.
All over in 3 I think

:D

I get it now, but it's more like Cost-ya Zoo.

LOL...At first I thought the thread was about the cost of a zoo. :D