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POETICDRINK2U
11-27-2009, 02:35 PM
Go here with your complaints, please let the Game Face Producers know you were not satisfied with this mode.
http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/forums/show/3722.page

TRAVI$
11-27-2009, 02:38 PM
They were never going to make it extremely accurate
If they had, who would buy the DLC fighters?

POETICDRINK2U
11-27-2009, 02:51 PM
They were never going to make it extremely accurate
If they had, who would buy the DLC fighters?

The Fight Night/Game Face Producers are going to have to step their game up next go round. The EA MMA Game is going to pull out all the stops. The already have photo realistic fighters and word out the studios is the CAF is going to match this.

TheCheetah
11-27-2009, 03:12 PM
The Fight Night producers probably don't even take into consideration of what we ask them for anyway.

POETICDRINK2U
11-27-2009, 05:19 PM
The Fight Night producers probably don't even take into consideration of what we ask them for anyway.

You have giving up? They do take alot of what the fans say in consideration. That what brought on the new DLC and patch.


Full Transcript of Producers Blog

FIGHT NIGHT Round 4 Producer Chat (11/25/2009)

Welcome to the FIGHT NIGHT Round 4 Live Chat. Producers Mike Mahar and Brian Hayes are live in Club Fight Night for you PS3 gamers

Wednesday November 25, 2009 3:57
[Comment From CountryBoyCountryBoy: ]
Whats Up Guys

3;58 Wednesday November 25, 2009 3:58 CountryBoy
Just to update everyone, December 2nd is the Title Update for XBOX 360 users while PS3 users will get the Title update on Dec 3
Wednesday November 25, 2009 3:58

3:59 [Comment From CountryBoyCountryBoy: ]
Sounds Good
Wednesday November 25, 2009 3:59 CountryBoy

4:00 New Boxers and Game Modes will be available for XBOX 360 Gold & Silver and PS3 users on December 3rd as well
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:00

4:01 Free accessories will be made available for X360 Gold and PS3 users on Dec 3 while X360 Silver users will have the accessories available on Dec 10
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:01

4:04 [Comment From reznickreznick: ]
hey guys
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:04 reznick

4:05 [Comment From CountryBoyCountryBoy: ]
Did you Guys get a Chance to look at this in the Wish List Forum? http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/341565.page
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:05 CountryBoy

4:05 Actually, Mike has the full 35 pages on his desk now ;)
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:05

4:05 [Comment From reznickreznick: ]
Can we start asking questions?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:05 reznick

4:06 shoot with your q's
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:06

4:07 [Comment From reznickreznick: ]
First I wanted to say thanks for your guys continuous support for this game. Us fans really appreciate it
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:07 reznick

4:07 [Comment From reznickreznick: ]
I was wondering if you guys planned on adding a camera option to turn the game into black & white so we could emulate the portrayal of older fights
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:07 reznick

4:09 Thanks for the props reznick. Mike tells me that having that camera option is definitely something that the team is looking into for the next iteration. It's a great idea.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:09

4:10 [Comment From CountryBoyCountryBoy: ]
How is Liston, Is he a beast? Does Holyfield have that great chin and killer determination?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:10 CountryBoy

4:11 Holyfield does have a great chin...we don't have a determination rating though, but he is beast in the ring...as is Liston.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:11

4:12 [Comment From PatadasPatadas: ]
Hi. The patch will reduce the counter window but how about the counter power?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:12 Patadas

4:13 Brizzo tells me that though they haven't adjusted counter punch power, punching power in general has been upticked a notch
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:13


4:13 [Comment From CountryBoyCountryBoy: ]
Is plan to release more Boxers in later DLC for Fn 4?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:13 CountryBoy

4:14 As mentioned in the video, it all depends on how the next DLC does. If there is a big demand then possibly. As the team is already working on plans for the next Fight Night game, it all comes down to a balance of working on new DLC versus planning for the next game which does take a lot of time as well.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:14

4:15 [Comment From CountryBoyCountryBoy: ]
Will Tassles be included in the next Boxing Gear Update?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:15 CountryBoy

4:15 Unforunately not. But this is something that the guys definitely want to have in the next game.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:15

4:16 [Comment From reznickreznick: ]
Awesome. My next question if I may: I know you guys mentioned that Sonny's reach attribute matches that of his real life counter-part. Will this also be evident through the gameplay? Or is it merely a stat in the game
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:16 reznick

4:17 His reach will be pretty long...at 84" you'll be able to see it in his character. how effective his reach will be will depend on how well you use it.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:17

4:18 [Comment From CountryBoyCountryBoy: ]
Brizzo did you add that Boxer Hurt/Stumbling effect with out the stun effect? More of it i mean in this upcominng update?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:18 CountryBoy

4:19 You can still stumble without being stunned.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:19

4:21 [Comment From reznickreznick: ]
I know you guys mentioned that punches won't be as accurate anymore. Will this make counter windows more prevelent? Or will some of these punches simple slip/miss with opening up a counter
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:21 reznick

4:22 Some of the punches will simply slip/miss as you said.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:22

4:23 [Comment From PatadasPatadas: ]
Why some countries have an online ranking available but others don't. I'm from Spain and I wonder why we don't have one
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:23 Patadas

4:23 It came down to being able to localize the online enviromment for that territory. it is something that we're looking into for future iterations though.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:23

4:23 [Comment From CountryBoyCountryBoy: ]
Well I hope you guys use Fight Night Round 4 an just build on that. I mean FN 4 is the best Boxing Sim to Date, Just add more styles, gear and lobbies
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:23 CountryBoy

4:24 [Comment From CountryBoyCountryBoy: ]
Brizzo/Mike, The Mayweather Petition is build a quick following. Will it be presented to Money May when it gets enough hits?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:24 CountryBoy

4:24 Haha...it would be much better if the petition was done on his website. We're trying to get him for the future and it's in his court.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:24

4:26 [Comment From CountryBoyCountryBoy: ]
Does that make twirling more effective for the disco dancers?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:26 CountryBoy

4:27 Twirlinig will have more affect on the stamina than before and the smaller counter window will affect those players as well.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:27

4:27 [Comment From CountryBoyCountryBoy: ]
Is there any chance of seeing Shannon Briggs, Eric Esch, Vargas or Jd Chapman as DLC?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:27 CountryBoy

4:27 Again, with DLC it really depends on the response from the next DLC. We'll investigate who would go in once we determine if we will do any further DLC.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:27

4:28 [Comment From joejoe: ]
in ring rivelres do the boxers in every fight were the same stuff
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:28 joe

4:28 No, they will only have different stats but not different gear.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:28

4:29 [Comment From reznickreznick: ]
Amazing. Im sorry for hogging the questions: Has there been any changes made to the jab? In terms of its power, speed, or just overall effectiveness?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:29 reznick

4:30 Not particularly. We know a lot of people have mentioned that in the forums. And though we did tweak all punching up a notch, we didn't change anything in particular with the jab with regards to speed or power.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:30

4:30 [Comment From UGonDieFooUGonDieFoo: ]
Hey Brizzo and Mike, thanks for taking the time to hold this chat.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:30 UGonDieFoo

4:32 [Comment From mesk14mesk14: ]
hey guys a quick question.weight really has no effect in the game does it?meaning if i were to take a welterweight SRL against a middleweight hagler as long as haglers stats are that of a welterweight's?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:32 mesk14

4:32 You can adjust the stats down but you wont be able to adjust higher than the highest in that weight class, so the class does have an affect on how much you will be able to adjust the stats.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:32

4:32 [Comment From CountryBoyCountryBoy: ]
His website is facebook, talk about generic. lol
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:32 CountryBoy

4:33 [Comment From reznickreznick: ]
Is there a smaller counter window time lapse, Or is there a smaller chance that a counter occurs?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:33 reznick

4:33 The window is shorter.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:33

POETICDRINK2U
11-27-2009, 05:21 PM
4:33 [Comment From PatadasPatadas: ]
Will this be the last gameplay patch?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:33 Patadas

4:34 Most likely, yes, it will be the last update. We're confident that you guys will be satisfied with the changes.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:34

4:35 [Comment From Iron MikeIron Mike: ]
Will we ever be able to edit existing boxers builds, styles faical hair and hair?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:35 Iron Mike

4:35 Though we know this is a huge ask on the part of the community, it's unlikely that this will be something people will be able to do for FNR4. For the next game...well, we'll see.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:35

4:35 [Comment From joejoe: ]
i would love to see juan marquez in the game prob more then mayweather
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:35 joe

4:36 [Comment From CountryBoyCountryBoy: ]
Yep thanks for doing this
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:36 CountryBoy

4:36 [Comment From mesk14mesk14: ]
ok i gotcha thanks
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:36 mesk14

4:37 [Comment From X Stavros 27 XX Stavros 27 X: ]
in legacy when we win the belt, our opponent suddenly has our entrance music while we use theirs for title fights. was this fixed in the update at all?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:37 X Stavros 27 X

4:38 This is something that the team would've loved to fix. When determining what to fix and what not to fix in an update, it does come down to what would impact users the most. It's not ideal, but we thought focussing on more in-ring game features was more imperative. Hopefully this will be addressed in the next iteration.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:38

4:39 [Comment From CountryBoyCountryBoy: ]
Why did you guys make Editing Existing Boxers stats take another cab slot, Also will there be more cab slots in the future?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:39 CountryBoy

4:40 It was the only way in the current design to do so in order for you guys to be able to make edits as we needed to keep the original fighters with ratings in the game.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:40

4:40 [Comment From X Stavros 27 XX Stavros 27 X: ]
Which of the 8 total DLC boxers were you most excited with adding to the FN roster?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:40 X Stavros 27 X

4:40 Brizzo = Holyfield
Mahar = Hopkins
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:40

4:41 [Comment From mesk14mesk14: ]
any chance of us getting any more venues?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:41 mesk14

4:42 not likely for FNR4. We are however looking at having more and new venues for the next game, for sure.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:42

4:42 [Comment From daud_k08daud_k08: ]
helloooo
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:42 daud_k08

4:42 holla!
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:42

4:42 [Comment From CountryBoyCountryBoy: ]
Great Q
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:42 CountryBoy

4:43 [Comment From joejoe: ]
an can u update cotto's tattos
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:43 joe

4:44 he was developed to be in his prime before he got his new tattoos. the new tats are nice, though i wouldn't necessarily say that he's in his prime especially after his latest beating. if he makes it into the next iteration, we'll look at what tat's he'll have on then.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:44

4:44 [Comment From RelentlessRelentless: ]
will there be gameplay vids.. of the patch before it hits us.. ?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:44 Relentless

4:45 it's a sizzle video that is out on GameTrailers today, not an actual gameplay video though
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:45
4:45 [Comment From reznickreznick: ]
I think you guys got this title update as spot on as you can. Lets say for some reason there is a bad exploit in the game caused by the patc that is discovered by the community. Would you guys update the game again based on one really bad exploit?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:45 reznick

4:46 if there is a really bad exploit, yes, we would look to addressing that if we needed to. however, we feel that it will be pretty tight. (knock on wood)
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:46

4:47 [Comment From RelentlessRelentless: ]
I have heard that there are differences in the demo knockdowns./ knockouts and the final versions.. some ppl here can attest to that.. .. was that sometihng that was done on purpose. or are we just imagining things
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:47 Relentless

4:48 because the demo was only 3 rounds, the ability to get hurt earlier was there in the demo versus the shipped game.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:48

4:49 [Comment From Vigilante17Vigilante17: ]
any hints on what extra gear we will be getting next week. Custom trunks for existing fighters perhaps? lol if not its cool, just curious...
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:49 Vigilante17

4:50 Old school gloves, leopard skin gloves, chain mail gloves...altogether 5 sets of shorts/gloves/boots.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:50
4:50 [Comment From X Stavros 27 XX Stavros 27 X: ]
Mike, I remember you mentioning you bet on Pac via decision in Vegas...how sick did you feel once it ended in the 12th rd?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:50 X Stavros 27 X

4:51 lol...a little sick, but there was also a bet on the win, so it wasn't a complete loss ;)
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:51

4:51 [Comment From CountryBoyCountryBoy: ]
Do you guys think Paquiao will beat Mayweather, I think he will knock him out to when Money May stops running.lol
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:51 CountryBoy

4:52 Mahar = Not only do I think he will...I want him to!
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:52

4:52 [Comment From mesk14mesk14: ]
i have such a good feeling about this update....sucks 7 more days!
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:52 mesk14

4:53 [Comment From PatadasPatadas: ]
will this title update include the olympic sugar ray for us ps3 users?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:53 Patadas

4:54 Olympic Sugar Ray will be made available for PS3 users on this update, yes!
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:54

4:54 [Comment From scirascoscirasco: ]
what's the reason we can't edit the licenced players fully is it marketing?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:54 scirasco

4:54 Bingo. due to licensing agreements, we need to keep the look of the boxers the way they are on the most part.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:54

4:55 [Comment From CountryBoyCountryBoy: ]
@Sk88z After the Pac Cotto fight, How much more of a fan have you become of the filipino phenom?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:55 CountryBoy


4:55 sk88z has followed Pacquiao for years...since he was a featherweight fighting in Asia alone. C'mon man!
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:55

4:57 [Comment From reznickreznick: ]
I know its very very early to ask, but do you believe the gap in time between the releases of round 4 and round 5 will be similar to that of Round 3 and 4?
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:57 reznick

4:57 We hope not ;) Again, though, we haven't got the green light on FNR5 yet and just in the planning phase. Nothing has been set in stone yet.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:57

4:58 [Comment From mesk14mesk14: ]
hey guys just wanted to thank you for your time and the update have a good thanksgiving
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:58 mesk14

4:58 Cheers to you as well. Get stuffed! :)
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:58

4:58 [Comment From pabztapabzta: ]
Mayweather is going down. He's 1st loss in the hands of the Pacman
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:58 pabzta

4:59 [Comment From reznickreznick: ]
Well thank you guys for taking your time to answer our questions! Once again it means a lot. I have a theory that most game devs dont want to discuss their game with their fans due to shame. You guys are a walking example of how game devs should act towards their fan base.
Wednesday November 25, 2009 4:59 reznick

5:01 It's our pleasure guys. You guys help make our game the best it can be. don't forget to vote for the game in the ****e VGA's! http://www.****e.com/event/vga2009
Wednesday November 25, 2009 5:01

5:01 [Comment From RelentlessRelentless: ]
agrees with rez
Wednesday November 25, 2009 5:01 Relentless

5:01 [Comment From scirascoscirasco: ]
yeah thanx to brizzo i met u in la at the fight night party thanx allan i met aswell and than to the rest for giving us the best game to date happy thanx giving,it's the swiss guy calling:ps pacman beat up my boy damn!!!!
Wednesday November 25, 2009 5:01 scirasco

5:02 On that note...thanks to everyone for taking the time to join the chat! We look foward to the DLC and update and hope you guys all enjoy the game!
Wednesday November 25, 2009 5:02

-Hyperion-
11-27-2009, 06:17 PM
The Fight Night/Game Face Producers are going to have to step their game up next go round. The EA MMA Game is going to pull out all the stops. The already have photo realistic fighters and word out the studios is the CAF is going to match this.

well obviously they were going all out with the CAF.........they have **** licenses.....people are gonna need gameface to make their UFC heroes......

FNR4 CAB is wack.........especially the whack limited as **** hairstyles......and no tattoo's....... :nonono:

TheCheetah
11-27-2009, 07:06 PM
All I'm asking for is for Vernon Forrest and Paul Williams to be put in the game. They won't even do that.

Mersey
11-27-2009, 07:35 PM
Go here with your complaints, please let the Game Face Producers know you were not satisfied with this mode.
http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/forums/show/3722.page

Ok, thanks.

Frank Martin
11-27-2009, 08:21 PM
All I'm asking for is for Vernon Forrest and Paul Williams to be put in the game. They won't even do that.

I think Paul Will make it to the next title. Or maybe even be available as a downloadable fighter.

Left2body
11-28-2009, 09:03 AM
The Fight Night/Game Face Producers are going to have to step their game up next go round. The EA MMA Game is going to pull out all the stops. The already have photo realistic fighters and word out the studios is the CAF is going to match this.

Its not so much upset but dissapointed when you look at what Fifa 10 has and what EA MMA will probably have. But then you look at the big picture and see why they drag there feet on this. Its because of competition. EA has genuine competition in both those games genre's so they stay innovative and do there best work.

Boxing and American Football is monopolized by EA so fans get less and less innovation between titles.

-Hyperion-
11-28-2009, 11:01 AM
Its not so much upset but dissapointed when you look at what Fifa 10 has and what EA MMA will probably have. But then you look at the big picture and see why they drag there feet on this. Its because of competition. EA has genuine competition in both those games genre's so they stay innovative and do there best work.

Boxing and American Football is monopolized by EA so fans get less and less innovation between titles.

cosigned.........................

thats why i want VB3 on PS3 already.....id import that **** from japan in a minute....

them_apples
11-28-2009, 08:58 PM
Go here with your complaints, please let the Game Face Producers know you were not satisfied with this mode.
http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/forums/show/3722.page

the punches just need to be sharper and quicker.

FNR2 had the perfect speed, FNR3 had decent speed to but got slower, FNR4 got even slower. Even the speed slider doesnt make the hooks quick enough. I'm talking velocity here. It deosnt mean you have to be able to throw 4 jabs in one second, just the enitial velocity..especially of the hooks. You cant time a sharp hook in this game because they are so slow and its unsatifying. Other than that it's the best fnr4 game to date, the HW roster was superb.

Oh yea, above all...

the proportions are wayy out of wack. Because of this lightweights look like heavyweights.

Smaller fighters generally have bigger looking gloves and heads because those parts of the body don't scale as drastically.

I'd be willing to bet Pacquiao's dome is bigger than some Heavyweights heads.

TRAVI$
11-29-2009, 10:19 AM
well obviously they were going all out with the CAF.........they have **** licenses.....people are gonna need gameface to make their UFC heroes......

FNR4 CAB is wack.........especially the whack limited as **** hairstyles......and no tattoo's....... :nonono:

That's exactly right
FNR4 didn't have a solid gameface feature because they were bringing fighters out as DLC
Since the MMA is not going to get the UFC licenses, then the feature can be used to no loss for EA
Surely that's obvious to everyone.

SOPH~ REP.
11-30-2009, 12:20 AM
[QUOTE=them_apples;6810175]the punches just need to be sharper and quicker.

FNR2 had the perfect speed, FNR3 had decent speed to but got slower, FNR4 got even slower. Even the speed slider doesnt make the hooks quick enough.

YES FNRD2 WAS IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE THE GREATEST BOXING GAME EVER