This would have been an absolutely brilliant and intriguing match up,There were times that Nelson looked unbeatable,the complete package. Speed,defense,movement,ring generalship and absolutely awsome power. Nelson was also a superb counterpuncher in the best period of his career.

How do you see the fight going?

This would have been an absolutely brilliant and intriguing match up,There were times that Nelson looked unbeatable,the complete package. Speed,defense,movement,ring generalship and absolutely awsome power. Nelson was also a superb counterpuncher in the best period of his career.

How do you see the fight going?
nelson wins it for me,round 9 tko

nelson wins it for me,round 9 tko
I would lean towards Nelson myself as Marquez gave Manny fits in their two fights,Nelson was probably the strongest feather/super feather physically In my lifetime,and I certainly see him as a better fighter than Marquez. I think the fight would be competitive,extremely brutal, but I think it would go the distance with Manny possibly closing the fight strongly.

I would lean towards Nelson myself as Marquez gave Manny fits in their two fights,Nelson was probably the strongest feather/super feather physically In my lifetime,and I certainly see him as a better fighter than Marquez. I think the fight would be competitive,extremely brutal, but I think it would go the distance with Manny possibly closing the fight strongly.
i see where your coming from mate and i agree with you to a certian point,i just think at 130 pac used to dive in alot more that what he does now,so with the fitness and power of nelson and pac keep coming foward ill lean towards nelson stopping him but either way what a great fight it would have been

i see where your coming from mate and i agree with you to a certian point,i just think at 130 pac used to dive in alot more that what he does now,so with the fitness and power of nelson and pac keep coming foward ill lean towards nelson stopping him but either way what a great fight it would have been
Diving in could land you in a lot of trouble against Nelson,thats for sure.

Enjoy.

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Very even fight IMO, I don't see a strength or stamina advantage either way, Nelson was the better boxer but he had a tendency to throw very very wide shots when exchanging and leaving himself open. At the same time Manny had a tendency to put his head down and just throw when he was exchanging so they both have their own set of defensive liabilities, but I think the difference would be the workrate of Manny, Nelson at times would throw one punch at a time while Manny with Manny, if you were in front of him he would let go with both hands. I could see it going down to whether a judge would favor cleaner punching (Nelson) or a higher landing ratio (Pacquiao) but I think manny would look to make the fight and come forward more. Nelson would keep it competitive with his counters and hold his own in the exchanges but I would favor Pacquiao to get the decision in a close fight. I don't think either of them would be knocked down, either could rock each other if hit just right but both men know how to stay on their feet when hurt and both have excellent recuperative powers.

I would lean towards Nelson myself as Marquez gave Manny fits in their two fights,Nelson was probably the strongest feather/super feather physically In my lifetime,and I certainly see him as a better fighter than Marquez. I think the fight would be competitive,extremely brutal, but I think it would go the distance with Manny possibly closing the fight strongly.

Marquez at featherweight has incredible skills wise. You are forgetting that Manny walked through Barrera, went to hell and back with Morales and then stomped him out 2 times.

Manny would be to much for Nelson at FW, although he was green Manny was a freaking machine. Nelson isn't on that level. He's good, but he wouldn't beat Manny IMO.

Maybe if it was Sanchez vs Pacquiao, then we would have a debate.

Marquez at featherweight has incredible skills wise. You are forgetting that Manny walked through Barrera, went to hell and back with Morales and then stomped him out 2 times.

Manny would be to much for Nelson at FW, although he was green Manny was a freaking machine. Nelson isn't on that level. He's good, but he wouldn't beat Manny IMO.

Maybe if it was Sanchez vs Pacquiao, then we would have a debate.

Ain't no debate about that, Sanchez beats Manny's ass at 126, Sanchez might drop a few early rounds, but he would pick Manny apart and take a decision

Ain't no debate about that, Sanchez beats Manny's ass at 126, Sanchez might drop a few early rounds, but he would pick Manny apart and take a decision


You sound like you are overrating Sanchez a little bit though. Pacquiao beat the living hell out of a prime Barrera, there is nothing in Sanchez' style that would suggest he would make mince meat out of Pacquiao. He's not overly agressive (Morales) nor is he a wicked counter puncher (Marquez).

His stamina is amazing, his power good, and he can box very well fundamentally.

It would be a good fight though and a Sanchez Ud is very possible.

Very even fight IMO, I don't see a strength or stamina advantage either way, Nelson was the better boxer but he had a tendency to throw very very wide shots when exchanging and leaving himself open. At the same time Manny had a tendency to put his head down and just throw when he was exchanging so they both have their own set of defensive liabilities, but I think the difference would be the workrate of Manny, Nelson at times would throw one punch at a time while Manny with Manny, if you were in front of him he would let go with both hands. I could see it going down to whether a judge would favor cleaner punching (Nelson) or a higher landing ratio (Pacquiao) but I think manny would look to make the fight and come forward more. Nelson would keep it competitive with his counters and hold his own in the exchanges but I would favor Pacquiao to get the decision in a close fight. I don't think either of them would be knocked down, either could rock each other if hit just right but both men know how to stay on their feet when hurt and both have excellent recuperative powers.
Thats another really good way of seeing the fight,good analysis. Would you not have said that Nelson was the harder puncher though?

Pac was very beatable at any of those weights. An amazing fighter for the fact that he is as good as he's ever been this high but he was certainly beatable and guys like Sanchez and Nelson had perfect styles to do it.

Both were excellent counter punchers and boxers with great stamina and who could take shots with the best of them and give back more than their own share. Both of them were better boxers than Barrera, in my opinion (though Barrera didn't exactly look flash in their first fight), and if we're talking at their best then I think they would take it.

While Pac is great I think at 130/126 I would favour both Sanchez and Nelson over Pac. Although, you know what, if him and Nelson had a first fight it's possible Pac would beat him but then Nelson would demand a rematch and then honestly dominate him with amazing boxing skills.

Nelson was truly one of the greatest rematch fighters in the history of the sport I think. He would often underestimate an opponent and would either be beaten closely, or beat them closely, but in a rematch he would utterly embarrass them or completely dominate them. He was a freak like that.

Both would be very exciting fights either way though. Kind of like Morales/Pac I.

Nelson was a better fighter at those weights IMO but it's one hell of an amazing style match-up. The version who fought Wilfredo Gomez looked damn near unbeatable. I don't know, man. I've been thinking about this fantasy matchup for months now.

Sanchez schools Pac at 126.

Nelson was a better fighter at those weights IMO but it's one hell of an amazing style match-up. The version who fought Wilfredo Gomez looked damn near unbeatable. I don't know, man. I've been thinking about this fantasy matchup for months now.
I think Nelson's performance against Gomez actually enhances Nelson's credentials. He had only had eleven or twelve fights and was in the fight all the way up to the end. I think he gives Pacquiao an absolute nightmare.

I think Nelson's performance against Gomez actually enhances Nelson's credentials. He had only had eleven or twelve fights and was in the fight all the way up to the end. I think he gives Pacquiao an absolute nightmare.

you mean vs salvador. but yes absolutely a very green & inexperienced nelson lasting that long & doing so well vs a all time great in sanchez who is my favorite fighter of all time enhances him.

126 i think i favor nelson, 130 i lean towards pac who is starting to use the right hand more. Anything over 130 pac is taking it.

At super feather nelson breaks manny over 15. the guy is a under rated bad ass

I'd actually go with Pacquiao in this one, I think Nelson would be the one stalking forward while Pacquiao darts from side to side, if there was one thing Nelson wasn't great at, it was cutting off the ring. Pacquiao's in and out and lateral movement I think would win this for him but Nelson would definitely have his moments because he was an excellent counterpuncher. This would have to be the Pacquiao we have now in a 130 pound body though, if we're talking about the more one dimensional Pacquiao then Nelson would win.

I'd actually go with Pacquiao in this one, I think Nelson would be the one stalking forward while Pacquiao darts from side to side, if there was one thing Nelson wasn't great at, it was cutting off the ring. Pacquiao's in and out and lateral movement I think would win this for him but Nelson would definitely have his moments because he was an excellent counterpuncher. This would have to be the Pacquiao we have now in a 130 pound body though, if we're talking about the more one dimensional Pacquiao then Nelson would win.
****,yeah Sanchez. I had only just woken up! lol. The main motivation for this thread was,like IMDAZED said,the style match up is mouthwatering.

I'd actually go with Pacquiao in this one, I think Nelson would be the one stalking forward while Pacquiao darts from side to side, if there was one thing Nelson wasn't great at, it was cutting off the ring. Pacquiao's in and out and lateral movement I think would win this for him but Nelson would definitely have his moments because he was an excellent counterpuncher. This would have to be the Pacquiao we have now in a 130 pound body though, if we're talking about the more one dimensional Pacquiao then Nelson would win.
Thats also a good analysis,but whilst I agree that Nelson wasnt particularly great at cutting the ring off,he was a pretty cunning fighter who could draw most fighters into a brawl if he had to,and Manny loves to fight. We seem to be split on the opinions front in here,which I guess goes to show what a tremendous fantasy fight this is.

Thats also a good analysis,but whilst I agree that Nelson wasnt particularly great at cutting the ring off,he was a pretty cunning fighter who could draw most fighters into a brawl if he had to,and Manny loves to fight. We seem to be split on the opinions front in here,which I guess goes to show what a tremendous fantasy fight this is.

As I said at the end of my post, I think it would depend on which Pacquiao we're talking about, the Pacquiao with the discipline and intelligence with the improved skills of present day in a 130 pound body, or the Pacquiao we saw at 130 pounds who wasn't as disciplined and wasn't as well refined as he is now. The Pacquiao now knows how to follow a gameplan, he doesn't seem to go crazy anymore and brawl with his opponents unless it's to his advantage, the Pacquiao before though would brawl with you no matter what.

As I said at the end of my post, I think it would depend on which Pacquiao we're talking about, the Pacquiao with the discipline and intelligence with the improved skills of present day in a 130 pound body, or the Pacquiao we saw at 130 pounds who wasn't as disciplined and wasn't as well refined as he is now. The Pacquiao now knows how to follow a gameplan, he doesn't seem to go crazy anymore and brawl with his opponents unless it's to his advantage, the Pacquiao before though would brawl with you no matter what.
I actually think we are seeing the best of Pacquiao at this time. He was a lot wilder a few years back,but he follows a gameplan meticulously now and can guess right if he has to adjust.

I belive it would be Nelson's fight at 126 which I feel is his best weight. Pacquiao's brawling habits would work against him.

Pacquiao has added more and more tools to his game since then and at 130 he was an improved fighter if not as complete as the Pacquiao of today. Azumah was a bit more inconsistent at super featherweight although he still had great performances here and there. At their relative bests, Pacquiao could very well end up outworking Nelson but he would have to be wary of exchanging punches with Nelson who I believe was the stronger fighter of the two.

I actually think we are seeing the best of Pacquiao at this time. He was a lot wilder a few years back,but he follows a gameplan meticulously now and can guess right if he has to adjust.

For sure, the guy is getting better each and every fight. It's great to see because normally when fighters reach the level he has reached they stop improving, some even start regressing.

Why is it if a fighter is aggressive and wild at times, he get's voted against so often? I see the same thing happening with Duran. Just because a fighter isn't fundamental or slick doesn't mean they are unskilled. Pacquiao was a wild banger but let's not forget the type of opposition he was taking down.

Pacquiao would have a huge speed advantage over Nelson and I believe more pop in his left hand. Nelson may have been stronger at 126, because Pacquiao was very bottom heavy (and by that I mean he had very big legs) but Pacquiao would simply overwhelm Nelson with his speed and aggression, not to mention power.

Nelson would catch him a few times with some big shots, but even at 126, Pacquaio wasn't going to stay down, let alone even touch the canvas.

Pacquiao hasn't just recently become "good" Every division he passed by he was either a top contender or the best guy in that weight class period.