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Sachet
04-12-2005, 11:11 PM
Is MMA ever "too violent" for you?

I ask this because for the first time in years I've been going back and watching earlier UFC's that I loved back 3 or 4 years ago, but now I just find some of it too violent. As fight fans I guess we are desensitized to violence more than the average joe, but was there or is there something in MMA that you think is too violent or that makes you uneasy?

Certain fights pop to mind, Gary Goodridge vs Paul Herrara was one, that was just brutal, but one that stands out is Pat Smith vs that one guy in I think UFC 2 where he kept repeatedly smashing him with forearms and the ref didn't do anything, luckily Pat Smith stopped the punishment himself. Maybe I'm getting soft in my old age but those paticular fights make me uneasy as hell, it makes me almost feel guilty for watching. Thank god the reffing have improved tenfold over the years to the point where that kind of stuff just doesn't happen anymore and the fighter's safety is always top priority.

Currently the only thing that makes me uneasy is stomps in Pride while a guy is down, I think that needs to go. Soccer kicks are pretty crazy but I think they are fair game. What are your opinions on it?






*Question~ compliments of CaptainPoohPant for the eZine.

HockeyFighter
04-12-2005, 11:27 PM
It all has to do with skill. The longer a sport is around the better skilled participants become. It's why Joe Malone scored 44 goals in 20 games in the first NHL season, he was playing with guys that had no place in the same arena as him, or how Frank McGee scored 14 goals in a stanley cup game against Dawson's City. Guys like Scott Morris, Fred Ettish, Joe Son had no place in the octagon and got punished brutally because of it. Not so much anymore.

Wizard
04-13-2005, 12:43 AM
I can agree with you to a certain extent with the earlier UFC's, I don't like to see someone getting hit when they aren't defending themselves. Especially when they're KO'd. The refs are alot more educated today so the fighters are safe.

O ya, soccer kicks are awesome.

kaps
04-13-2005, 01:30 AM
The new rules have toned down the violence greatly....

Shaolin Bushido
04-13-2005, 08:30 AM
Is MMA ever "too violent" for you?

I ask this because for the first time in years I've been going back and watching earlier UFC's that I loved back 3 or 4 years ago, but now I just find some of it too violent. As fight fans I guess we are desensitized to violence more than the average joe, but was there or is there something in MMA that you think is too violent or that makes you uneasy?

Certain fights pop to mind, Gary Goodridge vs Paul Herrara was one, that was just brutal, but one that stands out is Pat Smith vs that one guy in I think UFC 2 where he kept repeatedly smashing him with forearms and the ref didn't do anything, luckily Pat Smith stopped the punishment himself. Maybe I'm getting soft in my old age but those paticular fights make me uneasy as hell, it makes me almost feel guilty for watching. Thank god the reffing have improved tenfold over the years to the point where that kind of stuff just doesn't happen anymore and the fighter's safety is always top priority.

Currently the only thing that makes me uneasy is stomps in Pride while a guy is down, I think that needs to go. Soccer kicks are pretty crazy but I think they are fair game. What are your opinions on it?






*Question~ compliments of CaptainPoohPant for the eZine.no. er, 45678910?

Atwa_66
04-13-2005, 11:08 AM
The new rules have toned down the violence greatly....
by a great deal, I have a video of early ufc Knockouts, a guy dressed in martial arts clothes, no gloves, elbows a guy about 10 times in the head, 9 times after the guy was already unconscious, not a very skilled referee imo, the man was unconscious and getting messed up, crazy ass ko though.

puppy_dogg
04-13-2005, 11:19 AM
throws always make me cringe cause i saw something one time that made me very uneasy. a guy was throwing this dude down face forward and his arm was sticking out when he landed and it just snapped his arm backwards at the elbow :( i think it affected me cause ive seen some of the worst skateboard crashes ever, i can still hear one of those kids screams. i hate seeing limbs getting snapped and bent the wrong way.

please keep your arms in your chest if your getting thrown.

Wizard
04-13-2005, 11:20 AM
by a great deal, I have a video of early ufc Knockouts, a guy dressed in martial arts clothes, no gloves, elbows a guy about 10 times in the head, 9 times after the guy was already unconscious, not a very skilled referee imo, the man was unconscious and getting messed up, crazy ass ko though.


Martial arts clothes= Gi

Squezze
04-13-2005, 03:41 PM
throws always make me cringe cause i saw something one time that made me very uneasy. a guy was throwing this dude down face forward and his arm was sticking out when he landed and it just snapped his arm backwards at the elbow :( i think it affected me cause ive seen some of the worst skateboard crashes ever, i can still hear one of those kids screams. i hate seeing limbs getting snapped and bent the wrong way.

please keep your arms in your chest if your getting thrown.


That was in the DEEP organization in Japan. I believe it was Dos Caras, Jr (who fights in a mask) against Kengo Watanabe, or Daisuke Watanabe. One of those two guys anyways. Caras clinched with Wantanabe and hit him with a belly-to-belly suplex kinda thing and he landed on his arm and it snapped at the elbow I believe.

Brutal as hell, yeah. One of the most brutal injuries I've ever seen in MMA.

HockeyFighter
04-13-2005, 06:53 PM
by a great deal, I have a video of early ufc Knockouts, a guy dressed in martial arts clothes, no gloves, elbows a guy about 10 times in the head, 9 times after the guy was already unconscious, not a very skilled referee imo, the man was unconscious and getting messed up, crazy ass ko though.
Pardoel vs Weit or Goodridge vs Herrera would be what this match was.

Fallout
04-13-2005, 09:00 PM
MMA is not too violent by any means. To me violence means that someone has had something done to them that wasn't wanted. Two men compeating is sport. Yeah, I have seen a few things that made me think holy ****. I have thought "man they need to stop this fight NOW". However I have never thought of it as violent. Burtal, yes, tough, yes.

If it were up to me, the rules would be

1. No eye gouging
2. No hairpulling
2. No biting
3. No fishhooking
4. No blows to the neck spine or the back of the head
5. No groin shots
6. No ****ing

Everything else goes. The biggest difference is NOT the rule chances that have happend in MMA, its the people competing in it. Back when ultimate fighting first started, the people fighting in the UFC had no idea how to fight. Now its top level athletes who know how to defend themselves properly. People have died in hockey, baseball, boxing, car racing and countless other sports. In fact, a football player just lost his life in an area football leauge. No, MMA is not violent. A pitcher throwing a 100 mph fastball at someones head is violent.