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Question, is it a good idea during sparring to go against a heavier guy that hits extremely hard so that someone can get use to the hard blows?
At first I thought this was stupid, but then I thought about it and it doesn't seem like a half bad idea.
RightCross94 11-22-2009, 08:44 PM Question, is it a good idea during sparring to go against a heavier guy that hits extremely hard so that someone can get use to the hard blows?
At first I thought this was stupid, but then I thought about it and it doesn't seem like a half bad idea.
If you are a decent boxer with good defence and some sort of experience, it can be fine.
All I've ever really sparred is heavier guys, some very strong ones too. It gives you confidence, because I fight at 110lbs, so if I can spar a guy who weighs 150 lbs and is very strong and hits hard, I know that no one at my weight (or the divisions above) has a chance in hell of hurting me or knocking me out.
Spartacus Sully 11-23-2009, 01:12 AM No its a bad idea, ever look into the world water speed record? currently 318 MPH set in 1978 has yet to have been broken. Know why? cause the guy didnt set out to hit 318 mph he set out to hit something like 200 then tried alittle faster then faster then faster then faster then faster then faster then faster then faster over years until he got up to 318 making the current water speed record. all the people that set out just to beat it die or crash very badly.
I know that no one at my weight (or the divisions above) has a chance in hell of hurting me or knocking me out.
sparring some one bigger then you is a good idea only after your comfortable with getting hit by people your own size. you should build up your chin slowly if you just jump right into really hard hits your more then likely going to pull something in your neck, experience headaces or dizzyness, or even damage/break your jaw.
peewee1460 11-23-2009, 01:21 AM i'm 127 so all i ever spar is bigger guys who hit harder than me. helps me to keep my hands up
Versastyle 11-23-2009, 01:31 AM I spar mostly cruiserweights and heavyweight and I have to say when I spar someone smaller I really don't feel the hits. I just go through them. Am I invincible to lower weightclasses? Hell no.Haha but it helps to get used to a bigger hitter then a smaller one then moving up. Then again anyone can hit anyone with a hit on the button and it's goodnight.
Sox8055 11-23-2009, 01:43 AM No its a bad idea, ever look into the world water speed record? currently 318 MPH set in 1978 has yet to have been broken. Know why? cause the guy didnt set out to hit 318 mph he set out to hit something like 200 then tried alittle faster then faster then faster then faster then faster then faster then faster then faster over years until he got up to 318 making the current water speed record. all the people that set out just to beat it die or crash very badly.
sparring some one bigger then you is a good idea only after your comfortable with getting hit by people your own size. you should build up your chin slowly if you just jump right into really hard hits your more then likely going to pull something in your neck, experience headaces or dizzyness, or even damage/break your jaw.
This is true.
I've been through it before when I lacked the experience and I ended up with a black eye, swollen jaw which I felt really soft and it hurt whenever I chewed.
Luckily it was nothing worse, that guy did hit hard though. No doubt.
PessimisticPug 11-23-2009, 02:16 AM Sparring bigger guys is ok as long as your not getting hurt. If your doing this to get used to taking hard blows forget about it. One guy said that if he's taking the shots from a bigger guy that he could never be ko'd by a smaller guy. Thats pure bul****, the ones that knock you cold are the ones that you dont see coming. And as for the spar heavy guys so I get used to having my brain jarred by heavy people do this for me, lots and lots of neck exercises to build it strong. Theres a whole thing about what happens with your body/nerves when you get ko'd, but I really dont feel like getting into that.
I can understand that it can be hard to find guys your size to spar with, look for the same experience too and it seems impossible to find. So spar who you have and work smart. But smart is not thinking that sparring way bigger guys wil help you take shots better.
I fought anybody who may trainer threw at me. I was a welter/jr.middle and I fought plenty of heavyweights. The thing with the heavies was that they did have alot of force in their blows, but never the snap that the lighter guys had. The hardest hitting guys that I threw with were guys my size or slightly smaller. Bronco McCart and Tony Rodrigues remain the hardest hitters I threw with. It wasnt that they were so strong but rather that they had a snap on their shots and were fast. The ones that get you are the ones that you dont expect or dont see coming. These guys got them there fast, the heavyweigts I could always see them coming in....................Rockin':boxing:
punchDrUnK MONK 11-23-2009, 02:26 AM it all depends how ur gym works...
most important thing is that u n ur sparring partner r going at same pace. when one picks up the pace the other follows. if ur over matched n mis mattched n they r just beating on u , it might not do too much good for ya.
RightCross94 11-23-2009, 04:57 AM No its a bad idea, ever look into the world water speed record? currently 318 MPH set in 1978 has yet to have been broken. Know why? cause the guy didnt set out to hit 318 mph he set out to hit something like 200 then tried alittle faster then faster then faster then faster then faster then faster then faster then faster over years until he got up to 318 making the current water speed record. all the people that set out just to beat it die or crash very badly.
sparring some one bigger then you is a good idea only after your comfortable with getting hit by people your own size. you should build up your chin slowly if you just jump right into really hard hits your more then likely going to pull something in your neck, experience headaces or dizzyness, or even damage/break your jaw.
Hence me saying get experience first....
Spartacus Sully 11-23-2009, 05:43 AM i wasn't retorting your comment i was using it to back up what i said.
you spar bigger people but your allready comfortable sparring people your own size.
Tu Pai 11-23-2009, 05:43 AM you become very aware of their power quickly:rofl: helps you work on your deffense and not make mistakes.
RightCross94 11-23-2009, 06:15 AM i wasn't retorting your comment i was using it to back up what i said.
you spar bigger people but your allready comfortable sparring people your own size.
Oh sorry fair enough
rskumm21 11-23-2009, 11:46 AM Most experienced trainers will throw a new guy in there with a big man, or a more skilled man, right off the bat. They like to see whether or not you are cut out for it. Of course a good trainer is also going to know when to step in and not let you get hurt. Unless your upcoming fight is with a speed guy, it can be beneficial to spar with guys a little bigger than you. Same concept as hitting the bag with heavier gloves, that way in a real fight, your hands feel lighter; well getting hit by a who hits harder can't help but condition you for a fight with a guy your size. Focus on defense first. The rest will fall into place. Be careful with those body shots from heavy hitters. Get a padded rib protector to absorb shots against a guy much bigger than you until you build up your core. Most gyms will allow them, especially if you're sparring a guy who is much heavier than you.
http://www.ringside.com/prodinfo.asp?number=RBP
Move BRICKS™ 11-23-2009, 12:18 PM I'm 260 and in my gym, I damage fools like everyone in this thread. Spar at your own weight, there's always going to be someone who can test you there.
rskumm21 11-23-2009, 12:32 PM I'm 260 and in my gym, I damage fools like everyone in this thread. Spar at your own weight, there's always going to be someone who can test you there.
Wanna bet?
Move BRICKS™ 11-23-2009, 12:35 PM Wanna bet?
That there isn't someone who can test him at his own weight or that I will damage you?
Because I am confident in both
rskumm21 11-23-2009, 12:41 PM That there isn't someone who can test him at his own weight or that I will damage you?
Because I am confident in both
That's great. Weight is what it's all about, that's why there are weight classes. But that's not to say that a little guy can't put it on a big guy in especially in sparring. I'm no Homicide Hank, but I've definitely given the business to some ****y mutha ****ers bigger than me on a couple occasions.
Tu Pai 11-23-2009, 12:57 PM Most experienced trainers will throw a new guy in there with a big man, or a more skilled man, right off the bat. They like to see whether or not you are cut out for it. Of course a good trainer is also going to know when to step in and not let you get hurt. Unless your upcoming fight is with a speed guy, it can be beneficial to spar with guys a little bigger than you. Same concept as hitting the bag with heavier gloves, that way in a real fight, your hands feel lighter; well getting hit by a who hits harder can't help but condition you for a fight with a guy your size. Focus on defense first. The rest will fall into place. Be careful with those body shots from heavy hitters. Get a padded rib protector to absorb shots against a guy much bigger than you until you build up your core. Most gyms will allow them, especially if you're sparring a guy who is much heavier than you.
http://www.ringside.com/prodinfo.asp?number=RBP (http://www.ringside.com/prodinfo.asp?number=RBP)
Are you ****en kidding me??? Cant take the heat stay out of the kitchen, what's next motorcycle helmet?
supRa 11-23-2009, 01:23 PM it sucks bein the lighter guy... but hey... it helps.. u take a heavier punch and can test urself...
rskumm21 11-23-2009, 04:55 PM Most experienced trainers will throw a new guy in there with a big man, or a more skilled man, right off the bat. They like to see whether or not you are cut out for it. Of course a good trainer is also going to know when to step in and not let you get hurt. Unless your upcoming fight is with a speed guy, it can be beneficial to spar with guys a little bigger than you. Same concept as hitting the bag with heavier gloves, that way in a real fight, your hands feel lighter; well getting hit by a who hits harder can't help but condition you for a fight with a guy your size. Focus on defense first. The rest will fall into place. Be careful with those body shots from heavy hitters. Get a padded rib protector to absorb shots against a guy much bigger than you until you build up your core. Most gyms will allow them, especially if you're sparring a guy who is much heavier than you.
http://www.ringside.com/prodinfo.asp?number=RBP (http://www.ringside.com/prodinfo.asp?number=RBP)
Are you ****en kidding me??? Cant take the heat stay out of the kitchen, what's next motorcycle helmet?
It's advice for a beginner wanting to take on a heavier guy. Some people won't get too far into training with broken ribs. Last time I checked that wasn't a badge of courage. In my first week sparring I cracked a rib fighting a guy about 60 lbs heavier than me. I didn't know how to protect myself properly, and got caught. Wasn't that I was *****, or that I couldn't take the heat. I wanted to get back in there the next day but I was sidelined for about 8 weeks. It would have helped to have some protection in that area until I learned the ropes. Just throwing some advice out there for a beginner. Not everyone is superman like you. Let me guess, you spar without headgear and a cup right?
Tu Pai 11-23-2009, 06:32 PM It's advice for a beginner wanting to take on a heavier guy. Some people won't get too far into training with broken ribs. Last time I checked that wasn't a badge of courage. In my first week sparring I cracked a rib fighting a guy about 60 lbs heavier than me. I didn't know how to protect myself properly, and got caught. Wasn't that I was *****, or that I couldn't take the heat. I wanted to get back in there the next day but I was sidelined for about 8 weeks. It would have helped to have some protection in that area until I learned the ropes. Just throwing some advice out there for a beginner. Not everyone is superman like you. Let me guess, you spar without headgear and a cup right?
Calm down dude, lol. Post wasn't directed to you as a fighter, I just never seen anyone in a gym use that thing before, been to many gyms and never seen it. I would've never gone back to your gym if I was you, I mean your coach trying to get rid of you? You can sparr a bigger guy but obviously gotta be ready to do so. He should've taught you how to defend yourself in the first place and how to block a damn body shot that's for sure.
Skuzzles 11-23-2009, 06:36 PM If you're sparring with bigger a guy who has good control and understands that he should pull his punches a bit or can work with you, EG. you can work on getting on the inside, while he works on his boxing or something like that. In that type of situation you're ok. If you're going in there full blast then it probably isn't a good idea and you'll probably get hurt.
If you want to know how it feels to get disoriented from a big hit there are different/ safer methods to do that.
rskumm21 11-23-2009, 11:18 PM Calm down dude, lol. Post wasn't directed to you as a fighter, I just never seen anyone in a gym use that thing before, been to many gyms and never seen it. I would've never gone back to your gym if I was you, I mean your coach trying to get rid of you? You can sparr a bigger guy but obviously gotta be ready to do so. He should've taught you how to defend yourself in the first place and how to block a damn body shot that's for sure.
Yeah, exactly the trainer was trying to get rid of me because the money that I was giving him wasn't green enough. Gimmie a break. I did learn the basics first, and the guy I sparred was even less experienced than me, but boxing takes a long time to master, and even guys who "defend themselves in the first place and know how to block a damn body shot" still get their ribs cracked.
Move BRICKS™ 11-24-2009, 01:00 AM That's great. Weight is what it's all about, that's why there are weight classes. But that's not to say that a little guy can't put it on a big guy in especially in sparring. I'm no Homicide Hank, but I've definitely given the business to some ****y mutha ****ers bigger than me on a couple occasions.
do what you gotta do foo i'm just talkin **** lol
Kazaam '85 11-24-2009, 02:07 AM [QUOTE=Move BRICKS
Spartacus Sully 11-24-2009, 02:11 AM [QUOTE=Move BRICKS
Well said i completely agree.
Tu Pai 11-24-2009, 05:54 AM Yeah, exactly the trainer was trying to get rid of me because the money that I was giving him wasn't green enough. Gimmie a break. I did learn the basics first, and the guy I sparred was even less experienced than me, but boxing takes a long time to master, and even guys who "defend themselves in the first place and know how to block a damn body shot" still get their ribs cracked.
Lol..... just curious, what gloves where you two using? Did you buy that rib protector then?
rskumm21 11-24-2009, 08:51 AM Lol..... just curious, what gloves where you two using? Did you buy that rib protector then?
16oz. I just had a weak core and was scrawny at the time. When I came back I did use something similar until I gained confidence and my ribs fully healed.
Tu Pai 11-24-2009, 09:16 AM 16oz. I just had a weak core and was scrawny at the time. When I came back I did use something similar until I gained confidence and my ribs fully healed.
good to know those things exist.
Kazaam '85 11-24-2009, 10:05 AM Stfu... *******!!!
Hey rskumm... You are skum, *****!!
No one believes you! Look at you running around the boxing gym with a rib protecter *cough-*****-cough*
Like this other guy said, if you can't handle the heat then stay out of the kitchen
rskumm21 11-24-2009, 10:11 AM Stfu... *******!!!
Hey rskumm... You are skum, *****!!
No one believes you! Look at you running around the boxing gym with a rib protecter *cough-*****-cough*
Like this other guy said, if you can't handle the heat then stay out of the kitchen
This coming from someone that doesn't even box. Why don't you make another weight loss thread with your fat ass. What are you at now 280 is it?
Kazaam '85 11-24-2009, 10:16 AM Well I was at 266 but im 229 now. Im making my way down, homo!
See... I can lose weight and start boxing... but you'll always be a little ***** and a rib protection wearing *****! And that will never change! Hahahaha
rskumm21 11-24-2009, 10:33 AM Well I was at 266 but im 229 now. Im making my way down, homo!
See... I can lose weight and start boxing... but you'll always be a little ***** and a rib protection wearing *****! And that will never change! Hahahaha
Yeah right buddy, you're in a boxing forum talking to boxers and you've never even boxed a day in you life. You're a pathetic loser. If you knew anything about boxing you'd know rib injuries take a long time to heal. Most people would just sit out until they fully recover or, if they were a beginner, just quit after that. If I was a ***** I would have never gone back in there still having an injury to my ribs. But you've never boxed, so you wouldn't know. And the only thing you know about ribs is how to order another bucket. You ****in fatass.
Kazaam '85 11-24-2009, 10:44 AM I find it interesting considering that I've never boxed that you would type out a paragraph explaining to me how much of a ***** you are not. However, you're a complete ***** still 'cause you're trying to explain yourself to me. Hahaahh
Douche bagg.
Spartacus Sully 11-24-2009, 10:51 AM Yeah right buddy, you're in a boxing forum talking to boxers and you've never even boxed a day in you life. You're a pathetic loser. If you knew anything about boxing you'd know rib injuries take a long time to heal. Most people would just sit out until they fully recover or, if they were a beginner, just quit after that. If I was a ***** I would have never gone back in there still having an injury to my ribs. But you've never boxed, so you wouldn't know. And the only thing you know about ribs is how to order another bucket. You ****in fatass.
this is when you should have just said f*ck off instead of making excuses that make you look even more like a *****.
rskumm21 11-24-2009, 10:55 AM I find it interesting considering that I've never boxed that you would type out a paragraph explaining to me how much of a ***** you are not. However, you're a complete ***** still 'cause you're trying to explain yourself to me. Hahaahh
Douche bagg.
Yeah, I guess the next time a fat **** such as yourself decides take a break from his tub of ice-cream, and get on the computer to disrespect me, that I should just sit in a corner shaking and not respond. But me saying something in response to your ignorance makes me a *****... Sure thing, whatever you say Professor Klump. By the way, what are you still doing here, isn't the buffet open?
Kazaam '85 11-24-2009, 10:56 AM LOL!!! Right?... he's a *****!
That's what I've been saying all along! Hahahah
If he's such an accomplished and hard willed boxer, why is he wasting his time with some fat guy that's never boxed before?...
Is he trying to look 'COOL' in front of me?... its not working, sweetheart!!! =]
Kazaam '85 11-24-2009, 10:58 AM Hahaha sure thing Rskumm.
rskumm21 11-24-2009, 11:06 AM LOL!!! Right?... he's a *****!
That's what I've been saying all along! Hahahah
If he's such an accomplished and hard willed boxer, why is he wasting his time with some fat guy that's never boxed before?...
Is he trying to look 'COOL' in front of me?... its not working, sweetheart!!! =]
I know that can't be your response. There must be too much grease on your fingers to type properly. By the way, please put your shirt back on.
http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo294/noskool_photos/fat_kid.jpg
rskumm21 11-24-2009, 11:12 AM this is when you should have just said f*ck off instead of making excuses that make you look even more like a *****.
You're right Ylem, why didn't you advise me earlier? I mean, your such an expert at everything....
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Don't get me started on you. It won't end pretty.
Spartacus Sully 11-24-2009, 11:20 AM maybe next time.
got my bag up to 150 but then i cracked my wrist and stopped for like a week like a *****.
but then i realized that bones dont crack easily started stretching it and doing wrist exercises and 3 days later i was fine.
instead of taking off and wearing a retarded rib protector maybe you should have just done some push ups and intercostal stretches.im sure youve done many push ups since then which explains why it dosnt get sore any more.
rskumm21 11-24-2009, 11:44 AM maybe next time.
got my bag up to 150 but then i cracked my wrist and stopped for like a week like a *****.
but then i realized that bones dont crack easily started stretching it and doing wrist exercises and 3 days later i was fine.
instead of taking off and wearing a retarded rib protector maybe you should have just done some push ups and intercostal stretches.im sure youve done many push ups since then which explains why it dosnt get sore any more.
Sure buddy, like I said, you know everything, as evidenced in your video.:blowjob:
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Spartacus Sully 11-24-2009, 11:45 AM atleast i know more then you as evidenced by your video
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Kazaam '85 11-24-2009, 11:47 AM Rskumm... you're the scum of the world. No pun intended.
Also, I look nothing like that with my shirt off. Just because I use to weigh 266lbs doesn't mean I never worked out.
But then again, I don't need to explain myself to you, having said that... im nowhere near that guy in the pic.
Also, I don't know why u keep on posting the same video of ylem, I mean we all know he sucks... there's no need to keep on repeating it.
rskumm21 11-24-2009, 12:23 PM Rskumm... you're the scum of the world. No pun intended.
Also, I look nothing like that with my shirt off. Just because I use to weigh 266lbs doesn't mean I never worked out.
But then again, I don't need to explain myself to you, having said that... im nowhere near that guy in the pic.
Also, I don't know why u keep on posting the same video of ylem, I mean we all know he sucks... there's no need to keep on repeating it.
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk303/Schrockthe****/gobefat.jpg
rskumm21 11-24-2009, 12:25 PM atleast i know more then you as evidenced by your video
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???:thinking:
Spartacus Sully 11-24-2009, 12:51 PM just saying that everything you say sounds like bull sh*t or some kind of excuse. im gonna go with you having been going to boxing class till you got to spar some one bigger then you hurt your rib and then you cried to your mom like a like a little bi*ch and like a puss*y never went back. id say the extent of your boxing experience consists of no more then a week at most and you opinion is worth as much as my dogs opinion on my boxing skills.
more so you allways show the first video of me hitting a punching bag which tells me that you know and i know that if you posted my most recent video you wouldnt even have a point to make.
rskumm21 11-24-2009, 01:19 PM just saying that everything you say sounds like bull sh*t or some kind of excuse. im gonna go with you having been going to boxing class till you got to spar some one bigger then you hurt your rib and then you cried to your mom like a like a little bi*ch and like a puss*y never went back. id say the extent of your boxing experience consists of no more then a week at most and you opinion is worth as much as my dogs opinion on my boxing skills.
more so you allways show the first video of me hitting a punching bag which tells me that you know and i know that if you posted my most recent video you wouldnt even have a point to make.
You've never even visited a boxing gym. I seem to recall you making quite a few excuses when questioned about it. I currently train, spar, and fight. Something you will never have the balls to do.
Spartacus Sully 11-24-2009, 01:43 PM No no no your missing my point
Everything you say is bull sh*t and you have no idea what your talking about.
Kazaam '85 11-24-2009, 01:45 PM stupid troll is stupid!!
Rskumm, just shut up man... you're obviously very inept at boxing 'know-how'.
I bet you don't fight in the amateurs. ***** ass mothr ****r
rskumm21 11-24-2009, 01:47 PM No no no your missing my point
Everything you say is bull sh*t and you have no idea what your talking about.
Sure, everything I say is bull****. You would know right, since you fight and all?
rskumm21 11-24-2009, 01:49 PM stupid troll is stupid!!
Rskumm, just shut up man... you're obviously very inept at boxing 'know-how'.
I bet you don't fight in the amateurs. ***** ass mothr ****r
And what the fuk are you still doing here? Shouldn't you be having a coronary by now?
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Spartacus Sully 11-24-2009, 01:50 PM Sure, everything I say is bull****. You would know right, since you fight and all?
Since you fight and all?
Kazaam '85 11-24-2009, 01:56 PM For some reason I don't quite understand why you are STILL posting on this thread.
All your advice(as Ylem said) is bull****!!!
And you're no amateur boxer! And I bet you made up that story of u cracking your rib only to seem like a great keyboard warrior, HOW PATHETIC!
You disgust me!!!
rskumm21 11-24-2009, 01:57 PM just saying that everything you say sounds like bull sh*t or some kind of excuse. im gonna go with you having been going to boxing class till you got to spar some one bigger then you hurt your rib and then you cried to your mom like a like a little bi*ch and like a puss*y never went back. id say the extent of your boxing experience consists of no more then a week at most and you opinion is worth as much as my dogs opinion on my boxing skills.
more so you allways show the first video of me hitting a punching bag which tells me that you know and i know that if you posted my most recent video you wouldnt even have a point to make.
Since you fight and all?
Are you serious? I know you read my earlier post.
IBox85 11-24-2009, 01:59 PM man i click on this link cuz i thought there were 5 pages of good advice... but here goes a boxer expressing his experience... and 2 others that really dont know much... i guess in these websites the posts that try to HELP each other arent as popular as the ones that try to HURT another...
well i have no shame in telling my experience... ive been hit by a heavier world class fighter on the money... and i saw a flashing light like someone took a picture the second i got caught lol... i was def hurt but i continued till the end of the round... my coach took me out and later told me he knew that i was hurt.. .and wanted to see how i would handle myself while i was hurt...
ive had a bruised rib before... i was on defense against a FEMALE am that was heavier than me... she got me with a good body shot.. and my rib was bruised.. i wan in pain for months...
ive never been knocked out cold... or put to sleep or nothing... but i guess its inevitible as a boxer and i know it may happen one day... but u know what they say... u dont know whats really in u untill u get hurt and the way u handle urself after really reflects on how great u may be.. and the ones that come back after being brutaly koed... they r the true warriors...
rskumm21 11-24-2009, 02:03 PM For some reason I don't quite understand why you are STILL posting on this thread.
All your advice(as Ylem said) is bull****!!!
And you're no amateur boxer! And I bet you made up that story of u cracking your rib only to seem like a great keyboard warrior, HOW PATHETIC!
You disgust me!!!
Yes I made it all up. And you're the genius that figured me out.
And by the way; you disgust the entire planet...
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Kazaam '85 11-24-2009, 02:08 PM Hey man, stfu...
No one asked u anything! Let us continue arguing!!
Spartacus Sully 11-24-2009, 02:08 PM Are you serious? I know you read my earlier post.
yes and i can make stuff up to. are you a compulsive liar in real life or only on the internet?
Kazaam '85 11-24-2009, 02:12 PM Hey **** you skum-man!
Im not/nor have I ever been that huge.
That hurts my electronic feelings. *******!
rskumm21 11-24-2009, 02:15 PM yes and i can make stuff up to. are you a compulsive liar in real life or only on the internet?
Funny coming from you. A guy who has never boxed, yet gives out advice left and right like he knows what he's talking about.:lame:
rskumm21 11-24-2009, 02:17 PM Hey **** you skum-man!
Im not/nor have I ever been that huge.
That hurts my electronic feelings. *******!
You're welcome.
Spartacus Sully 11-24-2009, 02:21 PM Funny coming from you. A guy who has never boxed, yet gives out advice left and right like he knows what he's talking about.:lame:
and what advice have i given out that has not been helpful?
rskumm21 11-24-2009, 02:31 PM and what advice have i given out that has not been helpful?
Where do I begin? I've seen posts from you giving advice on how to throw combinations, footwork, how to improve punching speed. All things that someone with experience should be giving advice on. YOU HAVE NEVER BOXED!!! You don't know what the fuk you're talking about. You need to have experienced these things first hand, which you have not. You are delusional. Some poor kid who doesn't know any better is going to take your word for it and create bad habits, or seriously injure himself.
Spartacus Sully 11-24-2009, 02:49 PM im almost positive ive never given advice on combinations.
and what was wrong with my foot work advice other then having to deal with you repeating the same thing i said a few posts after me except instead of raising your heel when punching you describe it as putting out a cig with your toes.
improving punch speed i believe my advice for that was either that you have to jab more to get faster at jabbing and throw hooks to get faster at hooking. the other advice was a very good core and shoulder exercise involving the rotation of you upper torso that essentially mimics hooks. it improves your dynamic flexibility while improving the coordination of movement from the ground to your fist. if you perform it in a quick manner it will improve speed as well.
btw you didnt point out what advice i gave that was wrong you just pointed out advice that you assume i shouldn't be giving even though it was still good advice.
rskumm21 11-24-2009, 02:57 PM im almost positive ive never given advice on combinations.
and what was wrong with my foot work advice other then having to deal with you repeating the same thing i said a few posts after me except instead of raising your heel when punching you describe it as putting out a cig with your toes.
improving punch speed i believe my advice for that was either that you have to jab more to get faster at jabbing and throw hooks to get faster at hooking. the other advice was a very good core and shoulder exercise involving the rotation of you upper torso that essentially mimics hooks. it improves your dynamic flexibility while improving the coordination of movement from the ground to your fist.
There are minor technical details in boxing that if taught improperly, could be the difference between winning or getting knocked out. Again, you would know this if you actually boxed, but you never have, therefore should not be giving out any advice whatsoever.
Roy Keane 11-24-2009, 02:58 PM rskumm i wouldnt bother mate, you have a guy who punches like a retard and some fat **** who has never boxed trying to argue i wouldnt bother with them let fatty eat himself to death and retard punch improve of his already awsome technique
Spartacus Sully 11-24-2009, 03:07 PM rskumm i wouldnt bother mate, you have a guy who punches like a retard and some fat **** who has never boxed trying to argue i wouldnt bother with them let fatty eat himself to death and retard punch improve of his already awsome technique
i assume you seen my more recent videos I look like a total retard in them.
Spartacus Sully 11-24-2009, 03:12 PM There are minor technical details in boxing that if taught improperly, could be the difference between winning or getting knocked out. Again, you would know this if you actually boxed, but you never have, therefore should not be giving out any advice whatsoever.
so i guess no one here that boxes in a fights has a trainer or spars to test things out?
I know anything i hear online im gonna test out sparing as well as ask my trainer about it. every bit of advice i give has some kind of helpful value and what is left out im sure will be caught by their trainer and if not then i guess its not that important.
some one that dosnt have a trainer isnt fighting in boxing matches and anything i tell them in the correct direction is better then what they already know.
as far as recovery and stretching im sure a boxer knows best.......
rskumm21 11-24-2009, 03:20 PM so i guess no one here that boxes in a fights has a trainer or spars to test things out?
I know anything i hear online im gonna test out sparing as well as ask my trainer about it. every bit of advice i give has some kind of helpful value and what is left out im sure will be caught by their trainer and if not then i guess its not that important.
some one that dosnt have a trainer isnt fighting in boxing matches and anything i tell them in the correct direction is better then what they already know.
as far as recovery and stretching im sure a boxer knows best.......
So you're basicaly saying that bad advice is better than no advice...:pat:
Kazaam '85 11-24-2009, 03:23 PM Hey Roy, why don't u shut the **** up and mind you're mother ****ing business, biotch!!!
I'll ****n rack ur ***** ass up, son!! I may be fat but I'll stomp on your electronic head, slut!!!
Spartacus Sully 11-24-2009, 03:29 PM Nah im saying that good advice is good advice. like if giving directions i could ignore the person, i could say go down the street and make a right then follow the signs, or i could say go down about 1/4 mile make a right then go about 100 yards and make a left follow straight about 3 stop lights or 1 mile then make another right enter the building on your left with the bla blah blah sign then head up to the third floor end of the hallway the office is on your right.
im saying go down the street and make a right then follow the signs not quite as good as the full directions not as bad as ignoring the person.
of course i could also just ignore the question and go into a 3 min speech about how i used to work there and where id go on my lunch break every day but that would be really pointless and waste the persons time.......
rskumm21 11-24-2009, 03:39 PM Nah im saying that good advice is good advice. like if giving directions i could ignore the person, i could say go down the street and make a right then follow the signs, or i could say go down about 1/4 mile make a right then go about 100 yards and make a left follow straight about 3 stop lights or 1 mile then make another right enter the building on your left with the bla blah blah sign then head up to the third floor end of the hallway the office is on your right.
im saying go down the street and make a right then follow the signs not quite as good as the full directions not as bad as ignoring the person.
of course i could also just ignore the question and go into a 3 min speech about how i used to work there and where id go on my lunch break every day but that would be really pointless and waste the persons time.......
You're comparing apples to oranges. Like I said earlier boxing is very specific. You can't generalize or give half assed advice. If you don't know what you're talking about, just don't bother.
Roy Keane 11-24-2009, 03:42 PM Hey Roy, why don't u shut the **** up and mind you're mother ****ing business, biotch!!!
I'll ****n rack ur ***** ass up, son!! I may be fat but I'll stomp on your electronic head, slut!!!
:bottle: who says biotch are you gay or just fat ?
Spartacus Sully 11-24-2009, 03:42 PM thats fine and all but i will continue to give advice where its needed.
Spartacus Sully 11-24-2009, 03:43 PM :bottle: who says biotch are you gay or just fat ?
cartman, and i do belive hes fat, cartman that is, so it makes alittle sense
Kazaam '85 11-24-2009, 07:25 PM Roy: im not gay you ****ing homophobe! I said 'biotch' because I didn't know if I could say ***** or not... maybe it would make it all stars.
Ylem: you of all people!!! How dare you, you suck on the bag so stfu... stop giving advice.
Rskumm: you aint **** *****! You talk a big game online I bet in your gym your like a ****in zelenoff.
****, all 3 of you.
ThaSilverSurfer 11-24-2009, 07:59 PM the answer if no...there is no real benefit in chasing bigger guys just to see if you can hang...look at it like this...if youre a 147 walk-up banger you should definitely avoid a 160 walk-up banger...theres no benefit. however...if you are a 147 super-master-technician then i would say its worth the risk to see if you can put some hurt on the bigger guy.
Lol... what the fucc is this?...
I asked for your opinions and a few of u fuccn *******s turn it into 5 pages of arguments.
Jeeezus!
rskumm21 11-25-2009, 04:19 PM Lol... what the fucc is this?...
I asked for your opinions and a few of u fuccn *******s turn it into 5 pages of arguments.
Jeeezus!
Hey, at least you got some points out of it.
in my experience, there are different kind of punches, there is the explosive, fast, stinging, snapping punches from a lighter guy who knows how to punch (although not every guy in the lower weight classes can punch), then there is the heavy, momentum punches of a heavy weight that literally moves you with the punch. both should be experienced and adapted to if one aspires to be a well rounded fighter.
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