Myself included... the last white champ pre-Vit, never defeated, dirty fighter... but who really cares?

I think we all suspect he wasn't really that good and that he had hand-picked opponents, don't we? I know I do.

one word...OVERRATED

I remember him as one of the few heavyweight champions that defeated every viable contender in his era and retired entirely on his own terms. So many are labeling him overrated that he's beginning to become underrated.

Very much many fight for him were very difficult.
Therefore I think, that to it{him} anybody specially did not select opponents!

He not such talent as Roy Jones or Tyson, but he was the champion!
Besides he has left not defeated! Therefore he is reputable!

Do you think that unconsciously we rate black boxers more?

A racist comment? Maybe, but it's echoing statements made by Ali, Frazier, Lewis and others.

the Rock is underrated because he didn't have dazzling talent like RJJ, in fact he didn't have much talent at all. What he had was superb conditioning - he was never out of shape, and more heart / determination than any other fighter alive or that has ever lived

Do you think that unconsciously we rate black boxers more?

A racist comment? Maybe, but it's echoing statements made by Ali, Frazier, Lewis and others.

It is necessary to train simply well!
And to what race at the boxer, seems to me, not important...

At Marciano there were very difficult fights.
It is necessary to recollect his torn nose!
And after that he sends the contender in a knockout.
Marciano has the right to be reputable!

he is the only HW to be undeffeated, he fought the best of his time and left very little to the jugdes

the Rock is underrated because he didn't have dazzling talent like RJJ, in fact he didn't have much talent at all. What he had was superb conditioning - he was never out of shape, and more heart / determination than any other fighter alive or that has ever lived
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Nothing to add.

the Rock is underrated because he didn't have dazzling talent like RJJ, in fact he didn't have much talent at all. What he had was superb conditioning - he was never out of shape, and more heart / determination than any other fighter alive or that has ever lived

Nothing to add.

Marciano was great. To call him overrated is pure stupidity and possibly racist.

I remember him as one of the few heavyweight champions that defeated every viable contender in his era and retired entirely on his own terms. So many are labeling him overrated that he's beginning to become underrated.
Yeah, he isn't ever talked about around here. And if his opponents were not hand picked, then he was indeed one helluva fighter.