Which of the above will it be?

Which of the above will it be?
he has a history of pulling out of fights, but i think he'll be up for a fight like this, he may have just been unmotivated fighting meaningless opponents over the years

In 2001 he was scheduled to fight Joppy for the Vacant WBA Middleweight title. He pulled out, and his excuse was: He was on Vacation with his wife. Yeah right. I am 100% positive he would have lost that fight. He was just scared to put his unblemished record on the line against the slick fighter. Eastman ended up being the victim. That walking foward arm punching style would not cut it. He is just a scared lamb.

Remember him calling out Roy?

pity you had to pick one, i would say he'll pull out with all of the above, just to make sure!!!!

Which of the above will it be?
I absolutely LOVE this post, at least somebody in the house 2day has their eyes open....Joey Calzone will definitely find a way out of this fight, he and his people know that he'll never be a world class talent, and that Lacy (although very beatable) has a better-than-average chance of KO'ing Calzone....168lbs is the worst division in the sport, so when a guy spends a career trying to stay there, it shows his interest in becoming great, & obviously Joey and his people know that he has very little talent.... kudos to the author of this post for an awesome voting chart

- SacTown1

You forget to mention - being pulled out due to wife beating.

Seriously, i think Calzaghe will KO Lacy.

In 2001 he was scheduled to fight Joppy for the Vacant WBA Middleweight title. He pulled out, and his excuse was: He was on Vacation with his wife. Yeah right. I am 100% positive he would have lost that fight. He was just scared to put his unblemished record on the line against the slick fighter. Eastman ended up being the victim. That walking foward arm punching style would not cut it. He is just a scared lamb.

Remember him calling out Roy?

Calzaghe would have beat the living **** out of Joppy...if you are serious about Joppy winning then you have not seen them both fight enough times...Joe could easily be a light heavyweight...

Calzaghe would be deterred by nothing that Joppy had to offer and he is still quicker than Jopp.

Honestly you have not seen Joe fight to say that William Joppy would beat him that is ****ing ridiculous.

I know Joe has pulled out of some fights and still does not take the risk of crossing the pond to fight and I am upset with him for that but if you have seen him fight Brewer, Mitchel, Shieka etc then you would at least know that the kid when in the ring is a warrior.

I lean slightly toward Joe in this fight and pray it comes off, it is a fight of the year for sure!

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Calzaghe would have beat the living **** out of Joppy...if you are serious about Joppy winning then you have not seen them both fight enough times...Joe could easily be a light heavyweight...

Calzaghe would be deterred by nothing that Joppy had to offer and he is still quicker than Jopp.

Honestly you have not seen Joe fight to say that William Joppy would beat him that is ****ing ridiculous.

I know Joe has pulled out of some fights and still does not take the risk of crossing the pond to fight and I am upset with him for that but if you have seen him fight Brewer, Mitchel, Shieka etc then you would at least know that the kid when in the ring is a warrior.

I lean slightly toward Joe in this fight and pray it comes off, it is a fight of the year for sure!
let's see, Brewer & Mitchell & Shieka, those guys weren't even in the top 10 in the UNITED STATES, let alone top 10 world contenders.... how come UK fans get off on seeing their #1 guy beat the #15 & #20 ranked US fighters?!?!?! Put the #1 US fighter in with the #15 UK fighter (can you say Hopkins-Hakkar?) and let's see what happens

Calzaghe seems only to want to fight guys he feels certain he can beat. There's is no way he'd be going to Germany to fight Veit if he hadn't already knocked him out in one round

Is Calzaghe a Warren plebe?

Is Calzaghe a Warren plebe?
Yes he is, which accounts for a lot of his undoings, I am quick to blame Joey, and that's not always fair, because it's Frankie Warren who is the big coward, he never puts his fighters in good scraps until their at the elite level, then those fighters fold like an accordion

I say if Calzaghe does happen to step in the ring with Lacy he wins by decision. Calzaghe can box and move if he needs to and we all know how much trouble Lacy has with movers especially ones with jabs.

let's see, Brewer & Mitchell & Shieka, those guys weren't even in the top 10 in the UNITED STATES, let alone top 10 world contenders.... how come UK fans get off on seeing their #1 guy beat the #15 & #20 ranked US fighters?!?!?! Put the #1 US fighter in with the #15 UK fighter (can you say Hopkins-Hakkar?) and let's see what happens


First of I am from Seattle and have no general love for fighters across the pond...I like guys who can punch, can take one too and that have fast hands...Joe has all three.

Byron Mitchell was absolutely a top 10 guy when they fought...make sure you study before you speak with me because I dont like false info...only if it comes from me.

Secondly you downplay a guy like Omar Shieka huh...hmmmm the same Shieka that had Lacy hurt and gave Big Jeff one helluva fight that did go the distance...

What did Joe do with Shieka can you tell me Sac Town?

I love Jeff Lacy too except I think he is being a bit overrated...I was surprised like many when he whipped Vanderpool but since thien he has struggled with Sheika and he was hit time and time again with bombs by a very green Rubin Williams. I think Joe is better than both guys by a mile which tells me this is a u pickem fight if anything. It could go either way but the it will be a thriller that will make any real boxing fan want to see both men again.

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Are you looking forward to wearing my brand for 3 months? :D

Are you looking forward to wearing my brand for 3 months? :D

Have you ever typed anything outside of a 1 line statement? Haye sucks, and if he fights Bell, you will be owing me 8k.

Have you ever typed anything outside of a 1 line statement?

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i said it was his shoulder but i bet he says he breaks several toes in a freak hot wheels accident

Calzaghe by UD.

First of I am from Seattle and have no general love for fighters across the pond...I like guys who can punch, can take one too and that have fast hands...Joe has all three.

Byron Mitchell was absolutely a top 10 guy when they fought...make sure you study before you speak with me because I dont like false info...only if it comes from me.

Secondly you downplay a guy like Omar Shieka huh...hmmmm the same Shieka that had Lacy hurt and gave Big Jeff one helluva fight that did go the distance...

What did Joe do with Shieka can you tell me Sac Town?

I love Jeff Lacy too except I think he is being a bit overrated...I was surprised like many when he whipped Vanderpool but since thien he has struggled with Sheika and he was hit time and time again with bombs by a very green Rubin Williams. I think Joe is better than both guys by a mile which tells me this is a u pickem fight if anything. It could go either way but the it will be a thriller that will make any real boxing fan want to see both men again.
just a few more words on this dead-horse subject:

Byron Mitchell was coming off a loss to Manny Siaca before he fought Calzaghe, do you really think that makes him a top 10 fighter? If so than good for you, I just hold fighters to a higher standard....

Just because Omar Shieka is competitive vs. Lacy, that DOESN'T make him top 10 material, it just means he can survive 12 rounds with top 10 fighters....

Peter Mcneeley lasted 90 seconds with Mike Tyson, so is he top 20 material?

Henry Akinwande made love to Lennox Lewis for 6 rounds before getting DQ'ed, i guess he's top 5 material

you cna't guage a fighter based on how they competed in a losing effort, judge them on victories

Byron Mitchell was coming off a loss to Manny Siaca before he fought Calzaghe, do you really think that makes him a top 10 fighter? If so than good for you, I just hold fighters to a higher standard....

Just because Omar Shieka is competitive vs. Lacy, that DOESN'T make him top 10 material, it just means he can survive 12 rounds with top 10 fighters....

Sheika fought Joe C. in 2000, and no, there were not 10 168 lbs fighters in 2000 who were better than Sheika. Sheika WAS a top 10 fighter in that year in that weight-class.

As for Mitchell, he has NEVER lost to Manny Siaca (although that would not have knocked him out of the top 10 at 168 lbs). Mitchell beat Siaco TWICE, once by TKO and once by decision. Make no mistake about it, Mitchell was a top 10 super middlweight when Joe C. fought him.

Lacy vs Joe C. ends with Lacy by late round stoppage.

Calzaghe will be too much a step up in class for Lacy... KO early!

I musta gotten Siaca mixed up with somebody....who did Mitchell lose to be4 he fought Calzone? Byron was former WBA champ during the Joey showdown....

He "lost" to Sven Ottke...in Germany by split decision.

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He "lost" to Sven Ottke...in Germany by split decision.
By the notorious "German Controversial" descion... LOL!... - It's true, I saw the fight... LOL!..,

He "lost" to Sven Ottke...in Germany by split decision.
Thanx for the info

Thanx for the info

Wow, kinda shot yourself in the foot there didn't ya? :D

You forget to mention - being pulled out due to wife beating.

Seriously, i think Calzaghe will KO Lacy.

It will take someone in a higher weight class to KO Lacy. Certainly Calzaghe can't do it...

Did you watch the Rubin Williams fight - Williams was just unloading on Lacy and he didn't even take a step back...

It will take someone in a higher weight class to KO Lacy. Certainly Calzaghe can't do it...

Did you watch the Rubin Williams fight - Williams was just unloading on Lacy and he didn't even take a step back...
Calzaghe breaks his hand when he punches hard so no a KO i don`t see, but i can vision Calzaghe out speeding Lacy to nick a points win! ( But i agree with Anorak, Calzaghe will find some way to back out of the fight ).

I don't actually think Calzaghe will back out of this one... in fact, I'm amazed people are debating this seriously.

It was a GAG.

i bet he breaks several toes in a freak hot wheels accident
That is very probable, if you Calzaghe.

Calzaghe KO Lacy

Lacy by late round KO. Joe can box, and has enough power to keep Lacy off of him for the first half of the fight. In the deep water, Joe's defense starts to slip, and thats all it takes.

Which of the above will it be?

I won't vote in your silly "poll", but if they fight, I can tell you how it'll end:

Calzaghe by KO, either in 4 or 5. Lacy's never face that sort of competition before. Calzaghe's faster than Lacy, hits harder, and has loads more experience. It'd be a big mistake for Lacy to take this fight this soon. Much like Taylor against Hopkins.

It will take someone in a higher weight class to KO Lacy. Certainly Calzaghe can't do it...

Did you watch the Rubin Williams fight - Williams was just unloading on Lacy and he didn't even take a step back... Williams isn't a big puncher at all. Check his record.

Calzaghe is a big puncher. Check his record.

I like Lacy, but he's making a mistake right now, calling out Joe this soon in his career. Young fighters are too impatient these days, or maybe too greedy, not sure which.

Even if for some reason this fight does happen keep in mind that Calzaghe is getting up their in age and he has looked far from impressive lately.

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http://www.boxingpress.de/fotos/Lacy0218.jpg

needs to happen now.

joppy in 2001 would have beat eurostyle calzaghe to a bloody end. calzaghe could of come here to america years ago and made more money being a punching bag for the top tier than he made there. but he got statis...lacy breaks him down then kills him at will.if it happens

In 2001 he was scheduled to fight Joppy for the Vacant WBA Middleweight title. He pulled out, and his excuse was: He was on Vacation with his wife. Yeah right. I am 100% positive he would have lost that fight. He was just scared to put his unblemished record on the line against the slick fighter. Eastman ended up being the victim. That walking foward arm punching style would not cut it. He is just a scared lamb.Sorry, I don’t understand what are you talking about: Joe is a super middleweight since the 1st bout. William Joppy is a middleweight and Howard Eastman is a middleweight also. And I’ll say more: Eastman is slow and poor-thinking boxer who can’t change anything during the fight. Joe has a great tactic skill, lionhearted and rather fast.Calzaghe seems only to want to fight guys he feels certain he can beat. There's is no way he'd be going to Germany to fight Veit if he hadn't already knocked him out in one roundHowever we can’t except that Calzaghe will fight Lacy. And inside the ring Joe is a killer.

Sorry, I don’t understand what are you talking about: Joe is a super middleweight since the 1st bout. William Joppy is a middleweight and Howard Eastman is a middleweight also. And I’ll say more: Eastman is slow and poor-thinking boxer who can’t change anything during the fight. Joe has a great tactic skill, lionhearted and rather fast.

Calzaghe was scheduled to make weight and challenge Joppy's middleweight championship of the world. Im sorry, I dont know what you are talking about.

I say if Calzaghe does happen to step in the ring with Lacy he wins by decision. Calzaghe can box and move if he needs to and we all know how much trouble Lacy has with movers especially ones with jabs.Agree with your prediction but don’t think Joe will be able to be as great tactician as Vanderpool was. Syd is a better boxer than Joe and he clearly won the Jeff bout but at the end he made some stupid things and was punished. I guess Joe hasn’t enough patience to be 2nd number the whole bout and expect a close fight with many exchanges in which Joe will be a little more skillful and coldblooded. I can’t imagine neither of them being KOed in this division ‘cause Joe has an enormous experience while Jeff is a real pithecanthrope and both have big hearts.
Byron Mitchell was coming off a loss to Manny Siaca before he fought Calzaghe, do you really think that makes him a top 10 fighter? If so than good for you, I just hold fighters to a higher standard....Whom do you call a top 10 fighter in this division?

let's see, Brewer & Mitchell & Shieka, those guys weren't even in the top 10 in the UNITED STATES, let alone top 10 world contenders.... how come UK fans get off on seeing their #1 guy beat the #15 & #20 ranked US fighters?!?!?! Put the #1 US fighter in with the #15 UK fighter (can you say Hopkins-Hakkar?) and let's see what happens

All three are good fighters, and Sheika rattled Lacy before he ran out of gas...Joey stands a good chance of winning this fight on points...and an even better chance of winning it by KO, since Lacy will have no choice but to try to KO Joe.

Calzaghe was scheduled to make weight and challenge Joppy's middleweight championship of the world.Thanks. I didn't hear it before. It's rather curious. It would be the 1st middleweight fight for Joe. I guess William would lose by catastrophic UD. He's too tough and clever to be KOed by Joe but he has not enough offensive skills to do something with Welsh.Lacy's never face that sort of competition before.Joe’s never face that sort of competition before too.Calzaghe's faster than Lacy, hits harder, and has loads more experience.Experience – of course. Their speeds could be compared. And power is a reign of wild Lacy.It'd be a big mistake for Lacy to take this fight this soon. Much like Taylor against Hopkins.I don’t think so. Hop is a Master, Jermain is another young wolf. And you under-rated Jeff – his power is unlimited.
115-113 Calzaghe.

I have not seen that many Calzaghe fights. In fact the only one I have seen is Calzaghe vs Veit I. However I have seen Lacy against Syd Vanderpoola and Rubin Williams and he did not dominate in either performance. What is impressive about Lacy is he is very agressive and has amazing stamina and can sustain a very serious offensive attack for many rounds, in fact he seems to get stronger as the fight goes on and he has a good chin.

However he has never faced anybody of the class of Calazghe before. He has only 19 professional fights. And his defence is not that great. I think Calzaghe will win, Lacy does not have much experience and Calzaghe is probably the best fighter at 168 in the world right now, he is I believe the reigning Ring Magazine champ. Lacy's one punch power is also overestimated but is a great volume puncher. Lacy's main strong points are his stamina and strength and chin.

Calzaghe is a big puncher. Check his record.I think a record isn’t the best way to identify punchers. And Joe isn’t a big puncher. He kills by the series. Neither Joe nor Jeff will let opponent to land enough number of punches to KO.

I think a record isn’t the best way to identify punchers. And Joe isn’t a big puncher. He kills by the series. Neither Joe nor Jeff will let opponent to land enough number of punches to KO.

Lacy's defence is crappy. His defence basically consists of his offence. But every time I have ever seen him tagged good he just walks right through it. Lacy's fighting style is basically driving his opponents to the ropes and pummeling them in flurries. And he is very effective at doing that. If he can get Calzaghe to the ropes and execute his normal game plan he might win.

i think calzaghe could win by a TKO due to unanswered punchches late into the fight, lacy may have a good chin, but he dosn't have to be sleeping for the referee to call an end to the fight

Lacy's defence is crappy. His defence basically consists of his offence. But every time I have ever seen him tagged good he just walks right through it. Lacy's fighting style is basically driving his opponents to the ropes and pummeling them in flurries. And he is very effective at doing that. If he can get Calzaghe to the ropes and execute his normal game plan he might win.I agree it’s crappy! But in the bout vs Vanderpool all the beatings of Vanderpool (and finally TKO) were started by the long and successful series of Syd’s punches. Syd does 4-8 punches and his large experience tells him that opponent must be shaked or fall but after all these powerful punches of Vanderpool immediately go the punches of Lacy who even pays no heed to it. It’s unbelieveble! And Joe’s single punch isn’t stronger than Syd’s one.

Vanderpool is a perfect skilled but not very clever boxer. Of course Joe’s skills are worse than Vanderpool’s ones but he’s more clever. I don’t think Joe will do the same mistake. And Joe has the experience of defensive boxing with a jab: he exellent outclassed strong and tough Mger Mkrtchan not long time ago. In that fight he started with jabs and game of distances and then finished as usually - with series.

calzage high class european boxer. good skills. questionable heart. padded record. lacy with the highest natural boxing skills in recent times.skilled youth out does experiance here.
lacy gets better every fight. calzaghe gets worst.

calzage high class european boxer. good skills. questionable heart. padded record. lacy with the highest natural boxing skills in recent times.skilled youth out does experiance here.
lacy gets better every fight. calzaghe gets worst.Calzaghe's heart was tested many times. He was bad in the Salem fight but I don't agree he gets worst. Calzaghe is more clever in the ring - it's a meaningful thing.

calzage high class european boxer. good skills. questionable heart. padded record. lacy with the highest natural boxing skills in recent times.skilled youth out does experiance here.
lacy gets better every fight. calzaghe gets worst.

lacy has natural physical talent , not boxing skills .

he is gettin better , but if it wasnt for his size and power , he would be looking like an average presure fighter .

Lacy won't last 6 rounds with Calzaghe. I'm not even convinced Lacy can beat Robin Reid.

calzage high class european boxer. good skills. questionable heart. padded record. lacy with the highest natural boxing skills in recent times.skilled youth out does experiance here.
lacy gets better every fight. calzaghe gets worst.

Ugly statment, there. Not even remotely true. He is somewhat talented, but his big asset is his workrate. He keeps pressure on his opponent throughout the entire fight. Against Williams, he was outboxed, but not outlanded. And Ruben Williams just didn't have the power to hurt Lacy. Calzaghe does, and I don't think Lacy has the chin to stand up to Calzaghe straight right....and that's a problem for Jeff, because he will catch a few of 'em.

hmm broken back

Batman, you bumping threads?

This is a curious one... there was a lot of "Calzaghe will duck, lamo, PWN!" talk at the time.

I can only conclude that this thread (started by me) was intended as satire, but it's not clear five years later.

Who cares, Lacy wins by 2nd KO.

calzacky - UD

Calzaghe cannot handle Lacys power

2005 !! damn. I wasn't even into boxing back then.

I've got the yank in this one. He's a proven beast.

Batman, you bumping threads?

This is a curious one... there was a lot of "Calzaghe will duck, lamo, PWN!" talk at the time.

I can only conclude that this thread (started by me) was intended as satire, but it's not clear five years later.

Nah bud, a few users saying Lacy was never fancied and everyone knew joe was gonna win, thought I would disapprove that