View Full Version : Counters in FN4 Xbox


Yaman
11-17-2009, 02:06 PM
I found out the way to be really good at this game is to use a lot of these counters. It's more than just bobbing and weaving, the basic ones right. So how do you do these?

Left2body
11-17-2009, 02:16 PM
There are 4 basic counter moves.
Bob and weave
Body leans
Perfect blocks
Quick steps the sides or backwards

Depending on your fighter some of these will be better with some fighters than with others

i.e. Hearns is good at quick steps backwards and lean back counters due to his height. Pac is good at side stepping due to his excellent footspeed...etc

Yaman
11-17-2009, 06:04 PM
How do you do quick side steps and perfect blocks? And also those quick head movements. Some guy destroyed me with that today lol.

msagrain
11-17-2009, 06:21 PM
Practice......

Left2body
11-17-2009, 08:37 PM
The quick steps are analog stick flicks in the desired direction.

Perfect blocks are punches that are blocked right before they hit you. If timed correctly they allow a window to counter. This is shown and illustrated in the Practice Mode of FN4 (the mode you go to when you first put in the game.

All of these counters require timing. You can't just lean back or to the side. Or you can't just continuously block. You have to do it right before a punch lands.

*Note when a counter punch window is available the camera will zoom in slightly.

Yaman
11-17-2009, 09:07 PM
Alright. Thanks for that.

Left2body
11-17-2009, 10:11 PM
Alright. Thanks for that.

No problem bro. This here is the page I went to in order to learn a little more about side step counter punching.

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/273809.page

▀ringer
11-18-2009, 03:27 AM
I just stick to basic head/body movement. Typically, I just like to box from the outside, use a lot of jabs to disrupt my opponet's rhythm, and string together good combinations when I can. (Jab, straight right hand, left hook, right uppercut is my favorite combo. But I also like to mix things up to keep the opponet guessing, so I paw with the jab to the body a lot, as well.)

When my opponet is cutting off the ring, or trying to gain ground on me ; I'll let him come in on me, and I immediately focus on my opponet's arms and fists more than I focus on anything else. Typically, I can see what kind of punch he's going to throw at me, so long as it isn't a jab. A good jab disrupts my timing, but I've noticed that a lot of people don't really use them that much. Or they simply use them TOO much, and are easily predicted.

If I'm anticipating my opponet's jab, I'll just bring up my guard to nullify it, and prevent him from getting off a combination. After I block it, I'll either spin off to the side, and hit him with a hook or uppercut as I move out of range, or I'll spin off into a different position, and wait for him to throw again while taking a defensive crouch while I anticipate his punches, and then weave my head accordingly.

I rarely ever block my face. I just never have, in any fight night. I use the block solely for deflecting jabs, and shots to the body. For everything else, I prefer to either move out or range, or bob and weave accordingly.

Practice makes perfect. Bump your difficulty up to GOAT, and practice, practice, practice.

Mersey
11-18-2009, 06:11 AM
If your opp is throwing alot of head punches, rotate the left stick 90 degrees to duck under punches and throw a punch as soon as you see the camera tilt.

This is a very good technique, specially if you're Tyson.

▀ringer
11-18-2009, 08:31 AM
If your opp is throwing alot of head punches, rotate the left stick 90 degrees to duck under punches and throw a punch as soon as you see the camera tilt.

This is a very good technique, specially if you're Tyson.

Precisely the technique I used to KO Ali when I was fighting him on G.O.A.T as Tyson.

His height and reach was a real ***** to adjust to, though.

I found it much easier to switch sides, and knock out Tyson on G.O.A.T. as Ali. As nearly everything I threw at him from the outside was landing cleanly.

Yaman
11-18-2009, 08:40 AM
Precisely the technique I used to KO Ali when I was fighting him on G.O.A.T as Tyson.

His height and reach was a real ***** to adjust to, though.

I found it much easier to switch sides, and knock out Tyson on G.O.A.T. as Ali. As nearly everything I threw at him from the outside was landing cleanly.

How do you beat Foreman? The ones that use him well spam the hell out of the body and won't let you stay on the outside.

Also, Ray Robinson seems to be the strongest in the game lol.

▀ringer
11-18-2009, 09:00 AM
How do you beat Foreman? The ones that use him well spam the hell out of the body and won't let you stay on the outside.

Also, Ray Robinson seems to be the strongest in the game lol.

Ray's definitely the strongest in the game. I guess being the G.O.A.T. has it's advantages. :lol1:

Foreman? I've only fought him twice, that I recall ; once as Joe Frazier, and once as Mike Tyson. Both times I had to dig deep and make a firefight out of it. Lots of inside fighting, lots and lots of head movement/boxing and weaving, and lots of hooks and uppercuts.

If ole' George got too intense for me to handle, I'd clinch his ass (even if i wasn't hurt or stunned) to slow down the action a bit, and regain some stamina.

them_apples
11-18-2009, 04:36 PM
I found out the way to be really good at this game is to use a lot of these counters. It's more than just bobbing and weaving, the basic ones right. So how do you do these?

slip the jab and counter with straight right hand

slip the straight right and counter w/ left hook


you can also hook off the jab by jabbing and throwing a hook right away with the same hand. good way of sneaking a quick hook in. I only play the game at max speed though

them_apples
11-18-2009, 04:38 PM
How do you beat Foreman? The ones that use him well spam the hell out of the body and won't let you stay on the outside.

Also, Ray Robinson seems to be the strongest in the game lol.

Ali can beat Foreman fairely easily, but Foreman is one of the best heavyweights in the game, regardless of overall ratings. He has a good chance of thumping Ali out to.

Robinson is hands down the best in the game, not only is he fast and hit's pretty hard, he can take a ton of damage as well. The Robinson Lammotta match up is no longer much of a challenge.

Yaman
11-21-2009, 08:56 PM
Alright, I now know all of them. I'm practising a lot and i'm getting better and better. I love this game, it's not one-dimensional like some of the older ones.

sleazyfellow
11-22-2009, 12:28 AM
I fought the champion on XBL like 2 weeks back, I think his name is full metal or something, the way he kept countering was just dashing back at the right moment, and his character wasnt even a HW, just a small dude who was fast as hell.

Im not good at bobbing and weaving so I usually just use the block at the right moment to get my counters.

Shadow boxer 3
11-26-2009, 12:18 PM
cool...........

5betlight
11-30-2009, 05:50 PM
Ali can beat Foreman fairely easily, but Foreman is one of the best heavyweights in the game, regardless of overall ratings. He has a good chance of thumping Ali out to.

Robinson is hands down the best in the game, not only is he fast and hit's pretty hard, he can take a ton of damage as well. The Robinson Lammotta match up is no longer much of a challenge.
Oddly, the easiest person to beat Big George is Frazier, he eats him up on the inside, plus he has an excellent chin on FNR4.

them_apples
12-01-2009, 09:04 PM
Oddly, the easiest person to beat Big George is Frazier, he eats him up on the inside, plus he has an excellent chin on FNR4.

Frazier can beat any Heavyweight if you let him on the inside (although tyson gives him a tussle) You have to keep shoving him back.