anybody still watching Fox? or did that first fight make you throw a brick at the TV screen and now you can't see it?

Im watching it right now. Thankfully, I missed the Ward fight.

Riddick Bowe is in top shape. lol

F*ck Cablevision, now I don't have FSNY and MSG. I can't watch the Bowe fight and I can't watch my beloved NY Mets. =(

Referee Pat Russell spent to much time at the beach, or in a "Tanning Booth".

Billy "The Kid" Zumbram. LOL.

Riddick "Sweet Sweet Sweet Sweet Sweet Sweet Sweet" Bowe. WTF.

Round 1 comes to a close. Bowe was the aggressor, looking thoroughly unimpressive and slow. Bowe won nonetheless.

Round 2 comes to a close. Zumbram nailed bowe with a couple of good shots, and Bowe did a "Mockery" of being hurt. Bowe showing zero lateral movement and continues to look monolithic. Zumbram won this round.

Round 3 comes to a close. Bowe is getting tagged by Zumbram, who is using lateral movement. Zumbram won the round.

Round 4 comes to a close. Bowe dropped Zumbram with a left hook to the body. Bowe won the round.

Round 5 comes to a close. Zumbram backed Bowe up against the ropes twice......tagging him. 10-8 round for Zumbram. Ref almost stopped it.

Round 6 comes to a close. Zumbram landed good shots, and so did bowe. Argument can be made for an even round.

Round 7 comes to a close. Zumbram staggered Bowe twice, yet Bowe was landing the jab. Zumbram won the round IMO.

Round 8 comes to a close. Zumbram had points deducted for a "shoulder tackle". Bowe once again using the jab. Zumbram landed good shots, yet lost the round to Bowe.

Round 9 comes to a close. Bowe peppering Zumbram with the jab all round long, Zumbram lands in short stints. Bowe won the round IMO. Good jab actually. Wierd.

Final round comes to a close. Zumbram tagging bowe once again, yet Bowe fires the jab back. Looping right hands over the top by Zumbram. Round goes to Zumbram.

I think Bowe won the fight. Mainly because of the rough house tactics Zumbram displayed.

Split decision:

Score totals: 95-93 Zumbram 96-92 Bowe 96-92 Bowe

as I suspected.

I scored the first round even; the second round to Zumbrun

29-27 ZUMBRUN through 3...

I thought Zumbrun was winning the round til he got caught with the body shot.

Zumbrun is NOTHING SPECIAL AT ALL

If he's not stupid, he can win a decision, but he's getting ****y and he's got 280 lbs. in front of him...

37-36 Zumbrun thru 4...

29-27 ZUMBRUN through 3...


....The ****ed up part for me is that I have satelite and still don't get the fight. Neils do you subscribe to extra sports channels to get all the FSN stuff? I havea great premium package and the NFL ticket but I guess I should get some premium sports package to see all the fights on BDSP.

I thought Zumbrun was winning the round til he got caught with the body shot.

Zumbrun is NOTHING SPECIAL AT ALL

If he's not stupid, he can win a decision, but he's getting ****y and he's got 280 lbs. in front of him...

37-36 Zumbrun thru 4...

or 38-37...how do you score a round where the guy who went down was winning up to that point?

like it matters - Zumbrun nearly TKO'd Bowe this round.

Zumbrun is up 2 points on my card...

....The ****ed up part for me is that I have satelite and still don't get the fight. Neils do you subscribe to extra sports channels to get all the FSN stuff? I havea great premium package and the NFL ticket but I guess I should get some premium sports package to see all the fights on BDSP.

yeah - it's only like 6 bucks more since I get Starz, HBO, Showtime

uh ooooooooooooo!!!!!

Riddick Bowe IS NOT a contender...he's not a Top 10, 20, or even 30 guy...this is kind of sad, even if he pulls out a big punch and knocks this average fighter out...

Thats what he gets...I thought he was training in prison, he should have gotten his weight down in their...Slop of **** has been.

I have the fight even or 1 pt. up for Zumbrun at this point. That round was hard to score. Bowe ate another good one right before the bell, but Zumbrun seems content taking lefts to his head for some reason...

Its sorta a wierd fight both of them get rocked by shots sometimes but bowe is doing the more laying against the ropes


youch a point for shouldering. Zumb is sorta staggering

damn zumb just spent a round letting bowe jab him the entire time...

Yes! A Cialis Commercial! I Love These!

lol 4 hours... im not sure thats that good

FSN Extreme Slow Motion Rules

It may very well come down to who wins round 10. It does that way I see it.

Rich is a Bowe nuthugger - 86-82?

I have Bowe losing by a point. Apparently the Fox folks think Bowe won...

I think Riddick is ready for Toney...LoL :rolleyes:

I think Riddick is ready for Toney...LoL


Dont be surprised to see it happen, Toney will be defending his title on the best damn probably against the Rydell Bookers...If he gets past Ruiz...haha, I doubt it.

I didnt see the entire fight but I saw enough to know Bowe may have won at least 2 rounds 10-8... and in a 10 round fight thats pretty bad. And then there was round 8 or 9 where zumb just was a bag that bowe jabbed

split decision

lol everyone booed bowe but he won

SPLIT DECISION

95-93 Zumbrun
96-92 Bowe
96-92 Bowe

Great - now we have to watch this guy fight again on BDSSP

I had it 96-94 final for Bowe. Showing that I have as good chance at become the undisputed champion.

Split, ****ing decision

The crowd is chanting BULL****! BULL****!

Come on guys, this is basic cable - it'll be bleeped on the replay

Bowe won.
I think he should have stayed retired.
He is not even a contender at this point.
I dont wanna know what will happen when he fights anybody from top ten. Dont want any tragedies in the ring.

The crowd is chanting BULL****! BULL****!

Come on guys, this is basic cable - it'll be bleeped on the replay
Decision was bull****, cant really argue that. By the way, how how the Ward fight went?

all Bowe did was work the jab, he doesn't even have what it takes to land a one-two anymore on a guy that isn't even an elite fighter

zumbrun did okay, at least now he has something to be proud of at his bad kid camp or whatever the **** he does for a living...I'm sure all the bad kids that went to his camp watched the fight, and realize how it was an upset, Zumbrun should've won that decision,

I think Bowe landed more punches, but the jabs Bowe landed weren't shotgun, tapia jabs, they were soft, soft, soft jabs, and the only stiffness was felt if Zumb was coming in and took one, and he only did that like three times. he didn't even have enough coordination to land that followup right hand

I judge fights on who I think lost the most brain cells in the bout. and clearly, bowe took the larger amount of flush power shots, and was the only one in the bout who was really dazed, at the end of the fifth on the ropes bowe was dazed

the body shot that zumb took a knee on and that point deduction did it, I suppose

ps- the punch Bowe threw to the body was perfect, and the reason Zumb took a knee was because he had just thrown his own power shot and exhaled with the punch, and Bowe hit him right after that, as he was inhaling. ever been hit in the stomach while you are inhaling? it's not fun, it's the kinda pain that makes normal people think '**** this i quit'

Toney: Bowe needs to go baCk to the institution

Salley: Riddick Bowe lost this fight

WARD fought a guy who wanted to wrestle, hit on breaks, taunt, but not much else. Ward won by 3rd round DQ. The other guy lost every round and was penalized 2 points for hitting on break and pushing Ward down.

all Bowe did was work the jab, he doesn't even have what it takes to land a one-two anymore on a guy that isn't even an elite fighter

zumbrun did okay, at least now he has something to be proud of at his bad kid camp or whatever the **** he does for a living...I'm sure all the bad kids that went to his camp watched the fight, and realize how it was an upset, Zumbrun should've won that decision,

I think Bowe landed more punches, but the jabs Bowe landed weren't shotgun, tapia jabs, they were soft, soft, soft jabs, and the only stiffness was felt if Zumb was coming in and took one, and he only did that like three times. he didn't even have enough coordination to land that followup right hand

I judge fights on who I think lost the most brain cells in the bout. and clearly, bowe took the larger amount of flush power shots, and was the only one in the bout who was really dazed, at the end of the fifth on the ropes bowe was dazed

the body shot that zumb took a knee on and that point deduction did it, I suppose

yeah, I guess with the point deduction I had it even

Toney: Bowe needs to go baCk to the institution

Salley: Riddick Bowe lost this fight

WARD fought a guy who wanted to wrestle, hit on breaks, taunt, but not much else. Ward won by 3rd round DQ. The other guy lost every round and was penalized 2 points for hitting on break and pushing Ward down.
Thanks for the info, neils

From what I heard Bowe almost got knocked out by Zumbrun, Bowe is finished.

Did anyone else think this fight was going to be stopped when Zumbrun was teeing off on Bowe in the corner? Bowe must have taken 4-5 clean shots, but not only did the ref not stop the fight, he didn't make a knockdown ruling on the ropes keeping Bowe up (which I think for sure they were)...the difference in the fight.

However, the counterpoint to that argument is that thanks to the ref not stopping the fight, Bowe regrouped and managed to jab his was to winning a few late rounds. That proved in a way that it was the right decision not to stop the fight.

However, if Bowe was hitting Zumbrun like that, there is NO WAY the ref doesn't stop the fight...

Did anyone else think this fight was going to be stopped when Zumbrun was teeing off on Bowe in the corner? Bowe must have taken 4-5 clean shots, but not only did the ref not stop the fight, he didn't make a knockdown ruling on the ropes keeping Bowe up (which I think for sure they were)...the difference in the fight.

However, the counterpoint to that argument is that thanks to the ref not stopping the fight, Bowe regrouped and managed to jab his was to winning a few late rounds. That proved in a way that it was the right decision not to stop the fight.

However, if Bowe was hitting Zumbrun like that, there is NO WAY the ref doesn't stop the fight...

I agree the ref would have stopped it if Zumbrun was the one getting beaten up. Bowe is the star so unless his eye ball was completley hanging out of his head the wern't stopping it. :D

LOL - I just pulled up Billy Zumbrun's record and he has a win over Butterbean!

Bowe must have taken 4-5 clean shots, but not only did the ref not stop the fight, he didn't make a knockdown ruling on the ropes keeping Bowe up (which I think for sure they were)...the difference in the fight.


Usually, when a ref rules a fighter knockdown that was prevented by the ropes, it's somewhat more dramatic, with the fighter stumbling backwards into the ropes after catching several big shots, and the ropes keeping him upright. With Bowe, he was just leaning into the ropes and using them to help his movement. Lots of fighters do that, but I can't remember the last time I saw a KD rules because of it. Bowe was definitely stunned, but if he hadn't been leaning back against the ropes, he'd have been grabbing on...he was stunned, but not out enough to go down.

that guy that wasn't bowe is the guy that won the fight. sucks to be "that guy." bowe was staggered a lot. all of bowe's rounds were tallied up because of jabs. Since when is a jab worth more than staggering hooks and uppercuts. Damn "that guy" was backing up old 280lb megaton. And is it me or did it seem like the ref would break them up everytime zguy would establish his range? It seemed like bowe was taking big steps backwards or the ref was stepping in.

I didn't realize Bowe had such an illustrius record. Only one loss? that's pretty good considering he dropped of the face of the boxing world.

like i've been saying for months, BOWE'S COMEBACK IS DOOMED!!

just like buster douglas's comeback, the first "real" fighter he faces, bowe's going out on his face.... he's done, finished... stop talking about him...

....The ****ed up part for me is that I have satelite and still don't get the fight. Neils do you subscribe to extra sports channels to get all the FSN stuff? I havea great premium package and the NFL ticket but I guess I should get some premium sports package to see all the fights on BDSP.

Which satellite service do you use? DirecTV has the Fox Sports channels, but to my knowledge Dish Network does not (have a friend with Dish, he doesn't get all the cool sports channels that I do).

My God,

That fight was like watching a Gigantic Dooche against a Turd Sandwich.

Does anybody give a crap who won that fight?

I think Buster Douglas can come back and take out Bowe.

I didn't realize Bowe had such an illustrius record. Only one loss? that's pretty good considering he dropped of the face of the boxing world.

Bowe was one helluva fighter. Lots of power, big guy, great skill. He's never been quite straight in the head, though. Had he been, I think he'd have ended his career as an all time great. And even now, I can see the talent hiding inside him. I hope he gets back in good shape and fights a few more times, maybe even for the title against Klitchko before he calls it quits. If he'd been in good shape last night, he'd most likely have floored his opponent in the first round. He was just too heavy and too slow from lack of training and working. His right hand used to be really quick getting in, but last night you could've taken a coffee break while it made it's trip. And he always had great power in both hands when he wanted it.

Anyway, if he doesn't get back in shape, I don't want to see him fight. I don't like to watch round fellows fight. I could drive to my wife's trashy family's dump heap and watch them squabble if I were interested in that. When I watch a fight, I like my fighters to be in better shape than me, or at least not worse.

Bowe is finished. 9 years ago when he was in fair shape he totally lost it. Golota is not an all time great by any stretch of the imagination and he totally and completely destroyed bowe. No way he get can it going again.

And what the hell is with zumbum. Going into the 10th he had to know it was a close fight. So here is a guy who's boxing career will never amount to a cup's worth of warm piss fighting a former champion and he can't fight any harder than that? Go for broke and get a famous name on your record at least. And in the screwed up world of boxing you may even get a decent payday for your next fight. Granted he had his moments and had bowe rocked, but come on. He had his one shot and pissed it away. Oh, by the way billy, I'll take fries with that. :D

Which satellite service do you use? DirecTV has the Fox Sports channels, but to my knowledge Dish Network does not (have a friend with Dish, he doesn't get all the cool sports channels that I do).

directv

I get

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If you had no movie channels, it's 12 bucks a month. It can be as cheap as 6 bucks I believe. It's well worth the twenty cents a day...

I didn't realize Bowe had such an illustrius record. Only one loss? that's pretty good considering he dropped of the face of the boxing world.


He would have had three, if Golota hadn't started hitting him low in both of their fights, Bowe was losing them both, and Golota saved him by losing his head and cheating.

Bowe had a short prime, he won the tile in 1992 and was retired from boxing by Andrew Golota in 1996. That fight with Golota ruined him and even Bowe admitted in the post fight interview.

Larry Merchant "so the punishment you took in this fight is going to cause you to consider retirement from boxing"

Riddick Bowe "Yes, this is true.

Lou Duva said Bowe shoud have an MRI on his brain in the post fight interview as well after the 2nd Golota fight. The guy clearly has brain damage. He took so many clean, extremely strong punches in that fight, Lou Duva and and Jim Lampley were horrified.

Which satellite service do you use? DirecTV has the Fox Sports channels, but to my knowledge Dish Network does not (have a friend with Dish, he doesn't get all the cool sports channels that I do).

Dish Network gets the Fox Sports channels. I don't know if you get all the fox sports channels if you don't have like the top 100 channels or some crap though. Don't know. Dish Network also gets Telefutura, Galavision, etc which have some fights on.

Does DirecTv offer MNET, that african channel? I NEED that.

Dish Network gets the Fox Sports channels. I don't know if you get all the fox sports channels if you don't have like the top 100 channels or some crap though. Don't know. Dish Network also gets Telefutura, Galavision, etc which have some fights on.

Does DirecTv offer MNET, that african channel? I NEED that.

No, not at least in my area...

Fight of year he-he-he Bowe is old man